I Tested Every Bambu Lab Knockoff So You Don't Have To

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It didn't take long. Bambu Lab knockoff parts have hit the market. I tested them all to find out what this means for the 3D Printing market. This video is brought to you by PCBWay, your one-stop-shop for PCB prototypes and assemblies. Check them out at jle.vi/pcbway
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  • @thenextlayer
    @thenextlayer Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU for watching - and I apologize that we had to cut this video into 2 unexpectedly. Smash the subscribe button to be notified when Part 2 comes out - hopefully on Thursday. In the meantime, let me know in the comments below if you liked the video!

  • @Nairod785

    @Nairod785

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, so I am one of these Discord user who reached 42+mm³/s with PETG with this new hotend. Before the last firmware update when the temperature runaway was still 3minutes to kick in, it was printing fine and could even reached 48mm³/s but since the last updat the thermal runaway errock kicks in after like 3sec of anormal temperature variation, 12:00 that's why you're having these errors and I do too and many others also with this new hotend and the last update. I've reached the Bambu support but they say the users can not adjust the thermal error time or the PID settings, so we're doomed to errors in printing because of Bambu Lab closing more and more their firmware... Such a shame

  • @ashman2023
    @ashman2023 Жыл бұрын

    Kind of a letdown of a video, Ton of talking and a SINGLE part review..

  • @ashleys3dprintshop

    @ashleys3dprintshop

    Жыл бұрын

    In depth reviews including caveat deep dives are very valuable and there are other 3rd party "upgrades" that can be made.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I apologize… the video became too long and we had to cut it into two. I don’t know how it got so long. Probably because I wanted to explain why it’s such a big deal that these parts exist… Hope you’ll like next weeks more as I review 3 parts in it.

  • @qwertbochaffer

    @qwertbochaffer

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@thenextlayer maybe don't leave the video title as 'I reviewed every knockoff' if you review 1?

  • @yourt00bz

    @yourt00bz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenextlayer I’m only here for your comedy

  • @g-only1

    @g-only1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for saving my time

  • @ashleys3dprintshop
    @ashleys3dprintshop Жыл бұрын

    If you need any other video ideas here are a few. Noctua fan upgrades for quieter running. (needs wire splicing) Tons of build plate types but your intro showed you are already doing that. Led light upgrades or light strips above the print area. Showdown between interface barriers. Like the old style glue stick bambu lab gel glue, nano polymer, whambam, hair spray etc. Something I personally like to do is use a refracting grating sheet on the build service to add a rainbow chromatic color to the bottom of my prints. There is now a printable AMS upgrade called hydra that is bring worked on that can take different spool types. Hydra AMS - Enhanced Bambu Lab by humebeam Keep up the great work.

  • @ivyr336

    @ivyr336

    Жыл бұрын

    Tbh, is they're any point to noctuas when the machine is so loud anyway?

  • @riccardosacchetti

    @riccardosacchetti

    Жыл бұрын

    The Hydra is a really really nice project!

  • @DarrenOConnor3

    @DarrenOConnor3

    Жыл бұрын

    The refracting sheet idea sounds really interesting, you should show it in your next time lapse video

  • @DarrenOConnor3

    @DarrenOConnor3

    Жыл бұрын

    @@8bits955 claiming that noctua fans are never a good idea is just as foolish as claiming that they're always a good idea. As any engineer knows, the real answer is: it depends

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Some of this is covered in the next video!

  • @zacharylewis417
    @zacharylewis417 Жыл бұрын

    I almost feel like bambulab designed this specifically so you didn't have to tinker lol. And any sort of upgrade plans they already have in mind. I love tinkering and upgrading things. But man when its comes to 3d printers its like a nightmare where I could spend hours if not days on something only to yield meager results and could have just left it alone. 😂

  • @waynefilkins8394

    @waynefilkins8394

    Жыл бұрын

    This is true, but at the same time, it's very common to switch nozzle size. I think the anti-tinker motive would lead to them making it easier to replace nozzle. Other than that though they seem designed in a way where they don't need constant maintenance (unlike my damn ender 3's).

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    Жыл бұрын

    There are people who just want to print, and people who want to tinker. People who just want to print tend to print more, while tinkers tend to tinker more. My feeling, and I have shops including a number of machine tools, is that most people just want to print. I can say that it takes a lot of work to use open equipment. I made my own circuit boards and power supply for my first computer in 1975. But why would I want to go through anything like that today?

  • @waynefilkins8394

    @waynefilkins8394

    Жыл бұрын

    @@melgross I would think people would buy a 3d printer to 3d print. If they want to "tinker" then why buy that lol. Those people should build a voron or something

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    Жыл бұрын

    @@waynefilkins8394 well, that’s what I’m saying. But there are people out there who believe that open source is everything. That every product must have open source. It’s a need for them. So take an excellent printer like the Bamboo, and they’re not happy because it’s not open source. They believe that they need to change something because proprietary devices simply can’t be that good, and they think they’re being controlled by these companies anyway.

  • @mdbbox5660

    @mdbbox5660

    Жыл бұрын

    @@melgross Open source gives people reassurance their machine won't slowly become trash if the company that make it doesn't... make it, and that problems can be addressed by the community if the manufacturer cannot/will not address them. It seems that in this case, at least right now, Bambu is doing a pretty good job of making improvements and offering reasonably priced replacement parts and service. If that continues, the battle for open source is proportionally less important, but the potential for things to go south always exists.

  • @stone_fpv2599
    @stone_fpv2599 Жыл бұрын

    One thing to concider is the layer adheasion. CNC Kitchen noticed, that his faster printed parts had way less strength. I ordered the Hotend to use the CHT nozzle for all the parts I want to be strong, but still fast printed.

  • @michaelm4946
    @michaelm4946 Жыл бұрын

    I bought an Ender 3 and Ender 5 plus to play with and upgrade and to learn how to 3d print. I bought the Bambu XC1 to print fast without the headaches. It does what I want without any mods. I won't be putting in non Bambu parts simply because this is a system machine with matched components to work in a synergistic environment. A clone may look the same and maybe of good quality but there is a reason its cheaper. I'll stick with the Bambu store for consumables and spare parts.

  • @IrocZIV
    @IrocZIV Жыл бұрын

    Just having options is encouraging, so if Bamboo ever goes under, there will still be parts available.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking

  • @_Xantras_
    @_Xantras_ Жыл бұрын

    Great vid !! I espacially appreciate what you said about bypassing patents and locked technology. I believe that's where the community should be headed

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words

  • @keenzkustoms2408
    @keenzkustoms2408 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Glad you liked my flow rate tower 😁 I recently picked up the hotened and going to test it out. The main reason I got it is to run a 0.25 nozzle I find the 0.2 too small and clogs too often.

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy Жыл бұрын

    The one thing I have seen far too (increasingly) often is "send the whole thing back in for warranty work". Hard NO on that. If I can get the parts I need from the aftermarket in half the time with low shipping costs and at the same quality there is NO WAY I'm waiting the time it will take to ship the whole kit back to bambu, wait for them to fix it and then ship it back to me. I would expect them to ship one out to me the minute I file a warranty claim and only once the new one shows up would I then ship the old one back at THEIR expense. That's how these warranty's should work. A perfect example was a K&N air filter I got in 2009. In 2015 I noticed a small issue with it and sent them an email. This was at 1pm on a Tuesday. Within 15 minutes they had responded and asked for a picture of the numbers printed on it (for part identification and for my mailing address for where they should send the replacement. A brand new, never used replacement was at my door at 11:30AM the next day. They are in the US and I'm in Canada, something like 3000 miles away from me. If a company can do that for a $100 air filter I d*mned well expect at least the same for a $1500 printer. If they can't do at least that much then I expect them to rush the replacement parts out to me in the same manner and at their expense. Too many people have been conditioned to accept sub-par warranty service for too long and it's this sort of nonsense that really drives the aftermarket to come up with solutions for the end user. All because the OEMs just won't do it themselves.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Sit tight. Thursday I cover the whole idea of them repairing, vs. us upgrading on our own.

  • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi

    @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi

    Жыл бұрын

    Worried about this myself as in my country it costs hundreds of dollars to ship a whole machine back. Hoping this isnt the case as i really need a break to start my buisness.

  • @AaronFlaming
    @AaronFlaming Жыл бұрын

    Hey! That is my V6 Mini conversion! I love it, thanks for showing that.

  • @thinhman2010
    @thinhman2010 Жыл бұрын

    These upgrades are super cool. I'll probably never do them since I'm not interested in tinkering, but it's still fun to watch!

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! More coming THursday!

  • @shotshotshot24
    @shotshotshot247 ай бұрын

    The Endcard is AWESOME 😂 love your Videos 👌👌👌

  • @ablebaker8664
    @ablebaker8664 Жыл бұрын

    As a patent holder, I'm going to take a wild guess here. Bambu has probably realized the futility of filing a design patent. The only patent worth having is a utility patent and that requires some type of functional uniqueness that can't be anticipated as a natural evolution of an existing patent... If something does a task pretty much the same way as an existing patent, just better, a design patent would probably be the best that could be hoped for, and those aren't worth the filing costs. There really isn't anything about a 3D printer or the parts that it's built from, that's uniquely innovative... That was the entire point of how home 3D printers became a thing. They could be built out of off-the-shelf hardware with public collaboration. Kudos to Bambu for saving their money and leaving third party add-ons open because, open or not, there really isn't a cost effective way to stop aftermarket parts. Much better for the goodwill of makers and hardware hackers too, and we, are the target market.

  • @dubbylabby6068
    @dubbylabby60684 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the work.

  • @sharpfang
    @sharpfang9 ай бұрын

    If you have doubts if open source matters, ask Davinci XYZ users. Company goes out of business, printer won't accept 3rd party filament, you have a massive doorstop.

  • @master-gbig1140
    @master-gbig1140 Жыл бұрын

    This was a great video. Very intertaning and informative. I especially like the "I'm a Genny 🐖 pig attitude.". You are a whole lot of fun to watch. I had to see this video to the end. Thanks for the heads up.👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the kind words, they're super encouraging!

  • @DWIT3D
    @DWIT3D Жыл бұрын

    Just my humble opinion but... if you want to upgrade, tinker, mess with, speed up, etc., your printer, then build a Voron, RatRig, or any other DYI printer. Personally, I think Bambu was going after the "plug & play" market. I won't be messing with my P1P/AMS unless it requires parts to be replaced, and then I will buy those parts from Bambu. They have kept their part prices extremely reasonable. Heck, their whole hot end assembly is less expensive than some nozzles LOL. I believe Bambu will be around for the long haul, and I think we've only just seen the tip of the iceberg with what is coming from them.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. I built a Voron 2.4... different ball game. I should've left this thing completely stock, honestly.

  • @HarryPulvirenti
    @HarryPulvirenti11 ай бұрын

    Hi and thanks for the nice content! I have a question about the nozzle. Have you hot tighten it? If yes how? Thanks for the answer

  • @ZaxMan3D
    @ZaxMan3D Жыл бұрын

    If the V6 nozzle is to long, id the MK8 to short? its the same threads to should fit, or the heat block should be able to be made to fit with it perfect?

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it matters. You either push the market forward, or freeze it in time. I can't encourage illegal clones.

  • @waynefilkins8394
    @waynefilkins8394 Жыл бұрын

    15:30 you still have 2 advantages. You can swap out nozzles easily / quickly (to change sizes) and you can still use high-flow nozzles that you otherwise can't use with Bambu printers. For me this works out perfectly because I'm about done with my Ender printers and plan to only run Bambu from now on :)

  • @waynefilkins8394

    @waynefilkins8394

    Жыл бұрын

    nm you sort of mentioned this later on lol

  • @Schnapsbrennor
    @Schnapsbrennor6 ай бұрын

    Thanks... definitely buying the whole hotend assemblies. Bought the bambu to have a printer "ready to go don't care about settings,aint nobody got time for that".

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    6 ай бұрын

    My issue is they take a long time to swap. Much more than just a nozzle. 2 screws, then unroute the cables, then fiddle the connectors and hope you don’t break the pins… (which I’ve done). It’s a hassle.

  • @Alexander_Meyer
    @Alexander_Meyer5 ай бұрын

    And now there is open source firmware support for the Bambu X1C!

  • @ftrueck
    @ftrueck6 ай бұрын

    practically you do not even to buy the hotends with fan included, because there is a mod that allows to permanently mount the fan separated from the hotend, making the hotend quick changeable without hassle.

  • @gaiustacitus4242
    @gaiustacitus42425 ай бұрын

    Bambu Lab may have had to design its own proprietary nozzle solution to avoid infringing upon existing patents.

  • @dariansutton5503
    @dariansutton55037 ай бұрын

    I think part of the allure of the Bambu ecosystem is reliability. There are a lot of failures in Reddit forums from improperly tightened nozzles. Possibly Bambu safeguarding the brand against poor reviews due to nozzle seat?

  • @3DHP
    @3DHP Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your video.I will share on my Socials.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @violinistk4
    @violinistk47 ай бұрын

    So, only in 9 months, prices dropped down to 11-15$ per complete hot end without fan. And nozzles are within 1.5-3$ depending on copper/ hardened steel and cht. Already correct sizes etc. So for a price of 1 on bambu, you can get all the range from 0.2 to 0.8 with hotend and in both materials with cht inserts.

  • @tshev
    @tshev7 ай бұрын

    Regarding open-source solutions built after proprietary tools and professional work: - Linux is an open-source product which has a design inspired by a proprietary kernel, and arguably, it's more professional than any proprietary/non-proprietary OS kernel ever built.

  • @panagiotismavridis1922
    @panagiotismavridis1922 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video :D

  • @frankvsupermacalite
    @frankvsupermacalite Жыл бұрын

    That call to action at the end was 👌🏻👌🏻

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Thought you'd like that :)

  • @MmMmMiiiKe
    @MmMmMiiiKe Жыл бұрын

    I think its faster to just swap out the entire hotend lol 3 connectors, 2 screws, 2 minutes.

  • @Aikano9
    @Aikano9 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how long it will be until someone has completely reverse engineered the AMS so that you can print 90% of it and make your own for under $100

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Omg. Yes. The hydra mod is a good start.

  • @donkeymarco

    @donkeymarco

    Жыл бұрын

    If someone is willing to risk to be sued by patent infrigiment and purchase terms infrigiment (reverse engineering).... Patent "A mechanism and 3D printing system that reloads for 3D printer" - CN114474738A. These is only one of the patents that covers the AMS and its buffer.

  • @nickjeffrey8050
    @nickjeffrey8050 Жыл бұрын

    The bambu hotends are flawless imo Buy the full eassembly of your sizes and be done

  • @caltick
    @caltick Жыл бұрын

    Your thermistor isn't working because, most likely you've messed up the wiring.

  • @idoit99
    @idoit99 Жыл бұрын

    Dude editing Johnathan got me here cracking up 🤣. Do as he said n help those in need😂

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Thought you guys would get a kick out of it, and wanted to give you a laugh because I felt terrible that I promised EVERY knockoff and then spent the whole time talking about nozzles and hot ends.

  • @idoit99

    @idoit99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenextlayer it was n awesome episode

  • @EvilM3
    @EvilM34 ай бұрын

    I have gone through two of these Aliexpress special upgrades. The first hotend got clogged to the point that I had to throw the whole thing away. the second one suddenly started printing the first level test with one strip that is in the back, off the plate. it also started having adhesion issues and layer shifting. I took out the hotend and found that it had bend, maybe because of the repeated banging against the nozzle wipe. I have since installed a Bambu Lab OEM hotend. it is just not worth it when i have to redo a 6 day print three times.

  • @DarshanRayate1
    @DarshanRayate1 Жыл бұрын

    Need silicon sock without it nozzle gets cool by part cooling fan , on my ender Print er without sock it was giving thermal runway error after little bit printing and after using silicon sock I never got thermal runway error

  • @OldManJimmy1
    @OldManJimmy12 ай бұрын

    I'm just buying the complete nozzles from Bambu, once you do that you have two screws and three wire connections and the nozzle is swapped out. I'm thinking the next iteration of the X1 is going to have the A1 nozzle swap ability built in. I miss that one clip nozzle swap ease of use.

  • @Knowbody42
    @Knowbody428 ай бұрын

    I'm thinking of getting this to use something like tungsten carbide or diamondback nozzles. If I'm not using CHT style nozzles, that should avoid the stringing issues, right? And the tungsten carbide and diamondback nozzles are still better thermal conductors than regular or hardened steel.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    8 ай бұрын

    They’ll stick out a bit though!

  • @makerspace533
    @makerspace5338 ай бұрын

    Patents take at least two years to be issued. That's why many products have the words "patent pending" on it. Just a warning to someone who might want to copy a product and bring it to market. The problem is that in our fast moving tech scene, many copiers can produce the product and sell a bunch, then go out of business before the IP owner can do anything about it.

  • @timtook5652

    @timtook5652

    7 ай бұрын

    in 2 years there will likely be a superior product anyway

  • @alberts6096
    @alberts60965 ай бұрын

    I don't quite understand "40mm^3/S". What is now the benefit of the aftermarket nozel? We can print higher? Faster? Thanks.

  • @colbycoronado3357
    @colbycoronado3357 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely one of the coolest 3D print channels out there. The community thanks you for your knowledge and entertainment!

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks!

  • @hermancircus
    @hermancircus Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Keep up the fantastic content. I am hoping that BambuLab is paying attention and plans to come out with some new high flow nozzle/hotend assemblies in the near future...

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @modmike4406
    @modmike44069 ай бұрын

    Did you ever try the new bimetal cht version and test flow rates? Prices have also dropped precipitously. You can find the hardened ones fro around $5.00 CAD

  • @winandd8649
    @winandd86499 ай бұрын

    Let's skip to the actual content I came for: @8:13 😮 This would be a great choice for my diy build printer 😊

  • @royalbrooks7163
    @royalbrooks716310 ай бұрын

    I'm very curious about trying to use an aftermarket nozzle that is diamond for printing with carbon fiber. I haven't yet made the purchase of a Bambu lab printer but I'm very close and interested. Any thoughts on this?

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    10 ай бұрын

    Soon… soon there will be some very interesting upgrades available for BBL

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkk25 күн бұрын

    I need a smooth plate. They are either not in stock or expensive as hell in bambu store. I still can't comprehend why a smooth plate is not included. I can't print any lettered panels face down!

  • @UbberMapper
    @UbberMapper Жыл бұрын

    I new this kind of stuff would be coming...I have been silently laughing at the people who have been denying themselves the pleasure of a Bambu printer because they can "only get parts from Bambu". And you are right, its only a matter of time before every part can be found just as good or better from aftermarket. That being said, unless it provides a significant advantage, I am going to buy from Bambu even if it costs a little more. That way i can support the development of even better printers.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Makes sense.

  • @UbberMapper

    @UbberMapper

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LilApe Non serviceable for the moment. Of course Bambu would focus on selling the parts that are most likely to need replacement. In Time, there will be replacements for more and more but for now, I suspect they need nearly all the parts they produce just to keep up with sales. The Control boards, Heated Bed, and even the motion system will all be repairable given time. And in the mean time, I am absolutely loving my Bambu printer, how fast, accurate, and reliable it is. I have had so few issues with it compared to anything else I have purchased including several different variations of ender 3 printers from Creality. Plus, Lets say i am wrong and the entire system is designed to be tossed out like a cheap HP inkjet printer. By the time the machine reaches that point of wear it will certainly have paid for itself several times over, assuming you operate it for a business such as i do.

  • @donkeymarco
    @donkeymarco Жыл бұрын

    Most parts are patented. Bambu Labs 3D printers patent can be found searching the patents owned by Shenzhen Tuozhu Technology Ltd. That company name can be found in the terms that a customer is obliged to agrre with the purchase if one of their printers.

  • @eb6056
    @eb6056 Жыл бұрын

    Video begins at 08:10

  • @haguylerman
    @haguylerman Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a complete AMS for less then 400$

  • @cy-one

    @cy-one

    Жыл бұрын

    But... it only costs 350 USD on the Bambu store?

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out the Hydra mod... we're 1-2 remixes away from a DIY AMS.

  • @erraddict
    @erraddict Жыл бұрын

    What printer do you recommend as the best all around printer for best quality, ease of use/maintenance, etc

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Depending on your budget, Sovol SV06, Bambu lab P1P, or Bambu lab X1C.

  • @PlainAccount
    @PlainAccount Жыл бұрын

    Fight the Bamba! It's the PEOPLE who should control the means of printing!

  • @sabotage3d
    @sabotage3d10 ай бұрын

    Have anyone managed to fix stringing with the CHT nozzles?

  • @HopeThisWorks
    @HopeThisWorks Жыл бұрын

    Did you try a mk8 nozzle? They have a shorter threaded section.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Ooooh, I didn't. But people told me i could've ground down the top of the tube too

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkkАй бұрын

    12:28 What's that variable spanner called?! :D

  • @Cyphco
    @Cyphco6 ай бұрын

    Honestly, I don't care if you have a closed Ecosystem. Aslong as it isn't locked on the Software side (PartID or smth like that) you can always just replace everything.

  • @Zachary3DPrints
    @Zachary3DPrints Жыл бұрын

    Cool Video Jonathan!

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @PaulHuckaby
    @PaulHuckaby10 ай бұрын

    Looks like they now have a v2 of the aliexpress hotend so you can swap cht style nozzles that is the same size as the bambu labs stock hotend - so none of the problems outlined in this video. Then easier to just swap nozzles going forward

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    10 ай бұрын

    Yup.

  • @grumpychocobo
    @grumpychocobo3 ай бұрын

    Wait a hot minute, you can't just unscrew the nozzle to change to a different size or replace on Bambu Labs? That seems needlessly complicated.

  • @hambaallah1948
    @hambaallah1948 Жыл бұрын

    Should display volutmetric expriment in graph and chart.

  • @TheKnightArgent
    @TheKnightArgent Жыл бұрын

    Heya! Would the P1P have the same issues with this nozzle?

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Not too sure. Probably not!

  • @donkeymarco
    @donkeymarco Жыл бұрын

    If one day Bambu Labs will sue someone for patent infrigiment will be not for sure, but, for example in U.S.A.. They have several patents on their printers. To know the ones already public search the ones submited by Shenzhen Tuozhu Technology ltd.

  • @gil80
    @gil80 Жыл бұрын

    Wait, is it possible to install a V6 hotend on a 3rd-party hotend assembly? I couldn't find such thing

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    The Bambu knockoff supports v6 ones yes.

  • @bananashorts8995
    @bananashorts89952 ай бұрын

    Not me thinking this was a fake bambu lab 3d printer review....

  • @SkarmGamerLPs
    @SkarmGamerLPs Жыл бұрын

    Letssss goooo part 2 otw bbabey

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yessssir!

  • @S.A.S.H.
    @S.A.S.H.11 ай бұрын

    Love the PSA outro!

  • @lawman0210mike
    @lawman0210mikeАй бұрын

    What firmware are you using in this video? I like the speedometer style graphics

  • @matteopascale483
    @matteopascale483 Жыл бұрын

    Still want to know what blender addon you are using

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s a 3D printing add on and I use that but now I mostly use onshape

  • @richardmenz3257
    @richardmenz325710 ай бұрын

    I wish they gave an option when buying the original printer with a different original nozzle. I use only .2 mm or .6 mm

  • @MitchM240
    @MitchM2407 ай бұрын

    I will take a well done walled garden over open source any day.

  • @davidbinenfeld489
    @davidbinenfeld489 Жыл бұрын

    My ender 5 stock managed 25mm3/s How are you achieving only 40 with the rapido?

  • @c.sandlin5237
    @c.sandlin5237 Жыл бұрын

    I don't need a Bambu. . I don't need a Bambu. . .

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol. Give in.

  • @duchnguyen2735
    @duchnguyen2735 Жыл бұрын

    > every knockoff > tried 1 hotend

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. We had to cut the video in two. Thursday we will publish another one with 3 more knockoff parts

  • @killersberg1
    @killersberg1 Жыл бұрын

    Bambu also said that they will not support Klipper for "security reasons", which I think is a lie. After all it would be MY printer and if I wan't to be unsafe that is my choice.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah that is annoying

  • @TheShorterboy
    @TheShorterboy13 күн бұрын

    bambu's supposed walled garden is a filament cutter after the direct extruder motor, that's it, ram it rewind it push the new filament. Prusa's filament MMU thing sort of does the same just dumber, improving a bambu printer involves moving the filament mux closer to the head.

  • @paintballercali
    @paintballercali Жыл бұрын

    How many things came out after you posted your I tested everything video?

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Omg so many.

  • @ClintonCaraway-CNC
    @ClintonCaraway-CNC10 ай бұрын

    I want a Diamondback nozzle for the X1-Carbon. Will it ever happen???

  • @shenqiangshou
    @shenqiangshou Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea the volumetric flow rate was so different on the 3rd party set up + CHT. That's interesting. Prior to the X1C, I had the Revo 6 set up on my MK3s, and honestly that gave me tremendous flexibility to decide the tradeoff between speed and detail on every print. And the swap time was literally like 20s. Before the Revo, I never bothered swapping nozzles on the E3Dv6 ecosystem, because it was so easy to break the thermistor, or the heater. And then you'd also have to adjust the Z offset... It was just not worth it. After getting the X1C, I was disappointed I couldn't do the nozzle swap thing anymore. I did shelled out and bought entire 0.2, 0.6 and 0.8mil hotend kits. However, even though I have full sets of them, I have found the X1C's speed has honestly negated my desire to do nozzle swaps. I did try it a few times, and if you are swapping a whole hotend, I can do it in under 5 min. It's 3 connectors and 2 screws. Not as good as the Revo, but certainly not bad at all. So I think speed of nozzle swapping isn't really a selling point. I doubt you can swap in a E3Dv6 nozzle faster than I can swap a whole hotend. If someone can make a X1C compatible Revo set up, that might be interesting. I am still waiting for my Obsidian nozzle (hey E3D, where the hell is it??) Something I've seen mentioned is there might be some design flaw in the Bambu nozzle that makes it fall out after extended use due to the different metals used and thermal expansion rates over time. I haven't seen that on my printer, but then I am also not running prints 24/7. I am curious, for tests that you achieved 40mm^3/s, did you have to up the temperature? For every filament I get now, I run that volumetric speed test, to determine the highest volumetric speed that filament can do, but I do normally up the temperatures too (220 to 230C with PLA for around 20mm^3/s). I think a lot of people's failed prints on the Bambu printers are simply because they are trying to run these crazy speeds with the same temperatures as they ran on their older bed slinger printers, that just ain't gonna work! Another thing against nozzle swapping on the Bambu is the printer profiles in BambuSlicer are really only tuned at 0.2mm layer height. At 0.6mm layer height, all the "Other layer speed" settings are set to 200mm/s. Sure I can spend some time tuning it, but I haven't had that time, and haven't found the need.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    210 for that test :) I gotta say, I hate my Revo, but I think it's b/c i can't reach behind my fan shroud.

  • @shenqiangshou

    @shenqiangshou

    Жыл бұрын

    210 at 40 mm^3/s... that's magical...

  • @covertpluto
    @covertpluto Жыл бұрын

    I think Bambu is deliberately not patenting the hotend to allow aftermarket improvements to be developed that could be merged into mainstream, basically free R&D for them as long as aftermarket developers don’t close source and patent them

  • @thegarageluthier

    @thegarageluthier

    Жыл бұрын

    Would be nigh on impossible for them to patent their hotend design as its not really new, plus any designs have either been patented before or there is prior art.

  • @Bart_Depestele
    @Bart_Depestele Жыл бұрын

    Thank you in the name of science 🌾

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

  • @CidVeldoril
    @CidVeldoril9 ай бұрын

    What do you use for 3d scanning?

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    9 ай бұрын

    I have a few. The best so far has been jle.vi/3dmakerpro mole.

  • @DominicVictoria
    @DominicVictoria Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t see that ad coming. 😏

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that good or bad? I felt like it was better to integrate it into my points

  • @darren990
    @darren990 Жыл бұрын

    nice video ..speed benchy on 0.2 nozzle

  • @logicalfundy
    @logicalfundy Жыл бұрын

    I definitely prefer open source - with some of the increasing shenanigans I'm seeing in the software world (like Microsoft requiring an account to set up Windows 11), I'm seeing more and more value in the open source side of things.

  • @hassosigbjoernson5738
    @hassosigbjoernson5738 Жыл бұрын

    End of the line: *The Bambu Lab printers are not a great option if you don't want to use them the only way Bambu Lab itself thought of!* The whole idea of this machine is a none tinkering "it just works" machine. Which for me is questionable in the first place because somehow eventually there will be a problem ... also with Bambu Lab machines. But if all this tinkering is required to get close to a printer you want - than this is probably not the right machine for you! An Ender 5 S1 with that Sonic Pad or at the end a Voron 2.4 would maybe be a better option for more flexibility. Or the upcoming Creality K1. Maybe.

  • @bestbotreview
    @bestbotreview Жыл бұрын

    The best way to stop the intellectual property thief’s is to not do anything intellectual

  • @Stylo118
    @Stylo11810 ай бұрын

    what is the machine at 4:52?

  • @Sebazzz1991
    @Sebazzz1991 Жыл бұрын

    I was about to subscribe because I really like the style of your videos, but those thumbs... I will just check out the channel once in a while.

  • @Factsfun-kg4xc
    @Factsfun-kg4xc5 ай бұрын

    Contrary to popular belief, intellectual property protections are not intended to shield ideas themselves. Copyrights safeguard the expression of ideas, while patents protect inventions themselves. In simplified terms, you cannot patent an idea; you need a tangible product that functions as described in the patent application. Patenting a 3D printer component, such as a nozzle, would be extremely difficult unless it represents a completely novel design with an unprecedented mechanism. To clarify, Bambu Labs likely holds no patents on individual printer components. They might possess a design patent for the printer itself, preventing others from replicating it identically, but that's the extent of their protection. On the other hand, they might be the intellectual property holders of the firmware they use. I'm unable to confirm this without further investigation.

  • @p0ddie
    @p0ddie3 ай бұрын

    so basically I just leave my Bambu Lab the way it is.

  • @tinktrain1940
    @tinktrain1940 Жыл бұрын

    With the help of my son, we designed a bambu labs cold end that will except the Revo

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG NO WAY LINK ME?!?!?!

  • @sealightube333
    @sealightube333 Жыл бұрын

    What is that shiny Bambu Cool plate surface at 0:09? I want it now!!! :)

  • @Aikano9

    @Aikano9

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure it’s just a cool plate without the protective film removed

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned. Thursday.

  • @tomyocom5886
    @tomyocom5886 Жыл бұрын

    After you are done with your UPGRADES. Can you make a beautiful print that is better looking than what you could get OUT OF THE BOX untouched x1 carbon?? That would be great. It seems the quality in prints dropped after the upgrade!

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned for next video. But as I mentioned, the nozzle “upgrade” was a mistake so far.

  • @tomyocom5886

    @tomyocom5886

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thenextlayer cool....love your stuff!!

  • @ucid5363
    @ucid5363 Жыл бұрын

    best consumer printer there is rn.

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep.

  • @rexxx927
    @rexxx927 Жыл бұрын

    as long as science has not been patented yet by SOP's LMAO!

  • @dipf7705
    @dipf7705 Жыл бұрын

    You needed some flex seal

  • @andyyuen
    @andyyuen Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! So that I don't have to buy those 😂

  • @thenextlayer

    @thenextlayer

    Жыл бұрын

    No sweat! Though, as many comments pointed out, I did the install wrong (thermal paste).... and since I published, they released the mini-nozzles in CHT :) Though still no 1.0

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