you had me with the guitar hero bit for longer than you should have

@JonathanRiverafrickinnice555

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@kaylenpadayachee2008

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@SmokinSkyzoStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Maann xD I thought I was the only stupid one to think that too xD

He's the best Western dmc player. Or amongst the best.

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Wow, I've played DMC for years now, but I always stuck to the default control scheme just because it was what I was used to. But after watching this video I finally decided to mess around with it and I was amazed the results. Despite still struggling against my muscle memory, I went from never consistently jump-cancelling to being able to near infinitely jump-cancel in one afternoon. Don't know if you'll read this, but thanks SSSmoke.

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

I'm really helpful this was useful to you. Hope it makes you enjoy the game even more

@MichaelHill-sg8ks

3 жыл бұрын

@@SSSmokeStyle It already has done.

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Which scheme are you using? Melee on X? Jump on bumper? Something else?

@MichaelHill-sg8ks

3 жыл бұрын

@@SSSmokeStyle After a bit of tinkering I settled on melee on X, jump on square, change DA on circle, change gun on triangle, style on R1, gun on R2, lock-on L1, and DT on L2. Of course I'm using a ps4 controller. I find my thumb naturally lands across X and square, so it's nice and comfortable to slide my thumb from attack to jump.

*SSSmoke talking about JCs* Me: "I mean Jump Cancels exist in a lot of games. That doesn't necessarily mean they're any good in he-" *SSSmoke chains like 8 Revolvers in mid-air that you can't even tell are multiple moves* Me: "...alright, then."

@darkdestructer

3 жыл бұрын

thats actually one of the easiest moves to practice with, the trick behind jump cancelling is just being close to your enemy. Most jumpcancels fail because you aren't close enough to enemy step

@izanagi2488

3 жыл бұрын

Jump cancels are pretty easy in this game. I practically just spammed jump and aerial rave. The star rave was also easy if you just slide your thumb on the pad to switch between sword and trick whilst spamming style action button and jc.

best opening gag ever.

It says a lot about how good you are at this that I 100% believed you when you said you did those crazy combos with a guitar hero controller 😂

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Pwanked!

"He got us on the first half, ngl"

I hope you get to a million subscribers

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. So do I

I know it's been a few years but here's my control scheme and why Melee = Y [i usually leave melee as default in games unless it's an extremely weird button] Gun = RT [same button as most shooters, and an easier button to hold when needed] Jump = A [i don't have an issue with the Y>A jump cancel motion as it's not literally simultaneous and i don't play on turbo] Style / D. Breaker = B [i don't have any issue with the default button here / i have back paddles to help with holding it when necessary for nero] Dante DT = LB [easier button to hold and out of the way as it's more niche] Exceed = LB [Easy to press precisely during combos with my opposite hand] Nero DT = D-Pad [not frequently used and this frees up the bumper for Exceed] Lock-On = LT [i like my left hand to be mainly movement and style switching so this eases some of the load] Change Sword / D. Bringer = X [right next to the melee button so it's easy to quickly switch and attack / interrupt with bringer after melee hits] Change Gun = RB [right next to the gun button] Breakaway = RB [out of the way so i don't accidentally press it when i don't want to] Does this make sense to you? Any glaring cons that would make some of your common routes difficult?

I used to put Dante's style action on A button, but that turned out to put quite a bit of strain on my thumb, so I gave your scheme a try (except I put style to B and gun to RB since that would better align with my Vergil setup). Honestly, aside from getting used to the Dante claw with the left hand (so I don't clamp down on LT all the time and enter SDT by accident) and breaking old muscle memory, it is such a good control setup. I found myself already using more gun actions (compared to when I put gun on RT), switching styles more, and being more varied in the air. I just need to get used to it in due time I feel. Just need another 400 hours so the two Sparda boys can be equal.

Thanks for the video, before it i didnt even think about remapping controls. After playing with the mappings however i feel wery weird about Nero mappings. On him you should have quick access to exceed, charge gun, jump and devil bringer (for devil knuckles) and I tried using your settings but its very hard for me to jc, exceed and charge gun all at the same time. Great channel tho, love your dedication and skill.

Ok dude. You got me. I was shaking my head through the whole Nero part. But I was wrong. You got me. I just stepped into the void and tested with the following: X jump [_] sword O DT /\ buster R1 breaker R2 lock L1 exceed L2 gun Dpad breakaway I can already tell a difference, it will take some getting used to, but wow what a difference. So much ease with JC, and even bringer knuckle! Insane. Thank you for your video. Idk if I can ever wrap my head around jump on a shoulder button, but I think it will involve a shift in the way I play (I barely JC, mostly do enemy step for style)

The controll dosnt matter Now how many fingers have you.....

@karmiccrotal3480

3 жыл бұрын

Hint: more than two thumbs :)

I'll give this layout a try some time.

Muito cursed KKKKK Mas a mira nos gatilhos e o pulo no LB fazem sentido e são bem mais confortáveis mesmo.

You use the same control scheme as me noice, except I have style on B and gun on rb because having gun on shoulder helps me when I play Vergil and I don't want to ruin my muscle memory when I play other characters.

You never become best at Dante combos until your analogs are asynchronous

Dmc3 was the first dmc I loved to death, I mapped my controls to have jump at triangle, and sword/style next to it so square and circle. Im really trying to get used to a new layout since the timing isn't as clutch anymore. If my brain would let me tho, it is so dam hard to get used to something you did different for years

Here's a pretty good aerial juggle with Dante And the best part is it's done entirely with balrog So you start out and kick mode 1) you lock on forward attack this should launch your enemy into the air and you with them 2) Now you press back and attack while locked on to switch to punch mode 3) Once you're in punch mode you do the input for attacking one time 3) then you switch back to Kick mode 4) Once in Kick mode press the style button on sword master Repeat steps 2 through 4 as desired Maybe throw in some aerial rave and jump canceled revolver while you're at it

Maybe I'm just weird, but I've found that things are perfect with default for Dante. The other 3 I end up changing, but Dante was perfect for me default. Plus I always thought that jump canceling was easy going between A and Y, and that lock-on was the most comfortable on RB for everyone. Idk if anyone else feel the same for that, but I think they chose the control scheme for Dante really well

Guitar hero controller gang where you at?

I have a particular combo with which I consistently kill Vergil with, involves the same weapon setup you have except I use the regular bike, in it I use 2 jump cancels which sometimes get me to drop the combo, and after watching you do this 6:30 I feel like I should stop using jump cancels out of pure shame...

I keep Dante on default. With Nero, I re binded his gun to the right trigger, Devil Buster to square, Devil Bringer to circle, Devil Trigger to left bumper, and break away to the down directional button. With V, I put finishing move on triangle with Griffon and Shadow on the triggers. Auto Attack is circle and the book is square.

i have the lock-on button on the RT too hahah, and the DevilTrigger on LB, so for me is not "devil trigger" is more like "devil button"

I've never been good at Dante but I'm good at V and Nero with just the basic controls, and with Nero i don't often use lock on unless I'm using pull or such

You know as weird as your jump button being mapped to LB sounds it kinda makes because I use something very similar in Titanfall 2 on PS4. In Titanfall 2 there’s a pro maneuver you can do called bunny hopping where you have to press jump and then crouch pretty much immediately after which allows you to hop around the map and if timed correctly you can get around quickly keeping all your momentum, and doing this with X & O (A & B for you) consistency is nigh impossible. So what you do is change to the Evolved control scheme which maps your jump to L1 and crouch to R3, the only thing you really have to get used to is other than remembering X is no longer your jump button is that, X is now your ability use, and O is your melee. I’m still nowhere near pro level and I can’t even remotely fly around the map like GameSager can, but I can bunny hop pretty effectively and I’ve gotten used to the controls enough that it no longer bothers me and is actually comfortable. I will most definitely try this out when I play DMCV. Now I’m just left wondering if you can do something similar for DmC 🤔, because I’m like one of the few people who actually really likes that game.

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I've never played titanfall but it seems like that's pretty technically demanding

@RokushoTheRavager

3 жыл бұрын

SSSmoke, The funny thing is that if you’ve never played Titanfall 2, watching a video of it or even a montage looks confusing as fuck because you have absolutely no clue what’s going on. However with that said it looks way more complicated than it actually is, which is the same thing people say about DMCV. Course for me personally my specialty is shooters and I consider myself pretty good at those, but I also really love action games like hack & slashes. God of War, Ninja Gaiden, & DMC are right up my alley and I’m no pro but I’m decent at playing them. Definitely better than fighting games at least, those I just suck at 😓 I mean yea I suppose in some ways Titanfall 2 can be technically demanding, but once you play the game enough and you get a feel for how it plays, it’s not as daunting as it looks. Course I’ve played it a lot and I’ve hit gen 6 so I may be a bit biased here, but I don’t personally feel shooters are nearly as demanding as hack & slashes or fighting games, though I would argue DOOM: Eternal is the exception. I even put together a dope Titanfall 2 montage 3 years ago and I got some good feedback on it if you wanna check that out. Not really any bunny hopping but there’s some sick frags and plenty of variety. Also I did make a video on the DMCV demo with what I feel was the best gameplay I could get so if you feel obliged you can critique that as well. Regardless, because I’m kinda rambling at this point, your videos and combos are sick as hell dude. I just went through and I think I watched like 7-8 of your videos so yea, subbed.

What does your Vergil scheme look like?

Wow thanks man, you really hype me up for dmc playing. Are these control schemes applicable to dmc4 as well?

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

They are

Idk if its just me but i play claw (i put my pointing finger on ABXY) and because of that the default controls really suit me. Only thing i rebinded was nero’s pistol

I try to use this setup but I will never get used to switching weapons like this.

LB JUMP GANG LETS GO

Dá pra usar no DM3SE, mano? Acabei de pegar o jogo pro switch e tô amando

I like to keep all the characters control schemes as similar as possible but I will say break away for Nero I will always have on the d-pad, that function has only 3 practical uses for me, canceling gerbera’s stem Ray, canceling tomboy breakage if you need your default moves, and detonating punchline when you just want to use it as a missile. I guess what I’m saying is, breakage is absolutely useless once you have DT!

@salsamancer

3 жыл бұрын

It's still useful as an emergency animation cancel if you run out of DT

Concerning lock-on, doesn't DMC 5 have toggle lock-on? It helped me while playing DMC 3 (specially because I have poor performance on constantly pressing more than 2 shoulder buttons)

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. While I wouldn't use it since I hate toggle lock-on systems it would be nice to have for those who like it

@Gio-kg4gb

3 жыл бұрын

nice p2 profile picture

This is the weirdest controller setting I’ve ever seen

@darkdestructer

3 жыл бұрын

look at alan conqvist's controller video lol

I almost lost it when he said Guitar Hero controller 😂

Well im kinda shocked not because he's ain't Asians, cause he's the 1st westerners Who Plays DMC This Good.

O cara zuou demais nesse começo kkkkkkkkkkk muito bom mano

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

The zoeira never ends

4:11 Good Health tip

Have you tried the Xbox One controller? My loyal 360 one broke after a decade of service so I bought a One controller instead. I didn't think there would be a huge difference but WOW, DMC5 feels so much better with it (imo). I think it's mainly because of the smaller deadzones on the analog sticks.

@kallelindqvist7010

3 жыл бұрын

Also your control scheme is almost the exact same as mine lol, but I got gun on RB and style on default.

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

I have not tried the Xbox one controller. Tbh, it's a bit too expensive where I live so while my 360 one holds up I'll stick with it

Can i apply this on DMC3?

I cant deal with jump on the bumper. I play on dual sense so i keep it on Cross, then to make jump cancels easy i have melee on Square so i can just hit jump and melee without moving my thumb. For nero i have gun on R2, Breaker on Triangle and Bringer on Circle, that way i can access the melee+breaker super move input, since if you leave the breaker on circle you have to do terrible claw gymnastics since melee is all the way over on square. Same thing for vergil with teleport on triangle and summon swords on circle so i can hit those Melee+Trick super inputs easy.

@dankerbell

11 ай бұрын

that's what i do for them too lol, jump just has to be on x for me in games, melee on square and shoot on r2

I learned how to play DMC5 with the default controls for most of the time playing it. Now I need to relearn the entire game because of how bad the original controls are. Those should not be the default because they're far too limiting. I guess they made it simple for more casual players to understand them better but in the long run it hurts the people who want to keep playing the game long after they finished the story.

@iiisixstringiii8285

3 жыл бұрын

THIS!!... It took me so much time and effort to get used to my own custom controls, bc I played for months with the default until I found someone online who suggested I try remapping some of my buttons to allow me to be able to more easily do combos and stuff. But once I got used to it, my skill increased a ton. As for Nero in 4 and 5, I saw 'shoot' mapped to X/Square and knew right away I had to immediately change it to a bumper/trigger. I mean, FPS games have the shoot button there, and Nero has a gun, so it just made sense to me since I play FPS games. As of right now, I even have 5's Dante 'shoot' set to LB/L1. Nero's is on RB/R1.

@aTalkingKoala8294

2 жыл бұрын

My controls aren't far off from sssmoke's. I just don't change lock on or jump lol. I pretty much change everything else. The default controls are shit

Comigo o R2 dói mais pra apertar pra mirar no meu controle de PS4, e eu tentei bastante.

@SSSmokeStyle

2 жыл бұрын

Então fica no R1 mesmo. O que importa é comforto

so he's literally can play with Nevan playing on guitar...

I bet you still use a guitar hero controller just offscreen

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

I can neither confirm nor deny

for someone that has been playing over 8 months with default layout. I'm struggling deciding wether trying something different is worth it. It will probably take me a long time getting my brain used to it :(

@SSSmokeStyle

3 жыл бұрын

If you're comfortable then keep at default. Of course, you can always switch in small increments

@meguangerica6095

3 жыл бұрын

@@SSSmokeStyle omg of course, for some reason I made too many changes at once and it was so frustrating. I will try to do it one change at a time. Thanks so much for the advice, best DMC5 player ever ^.^

@playboydojo

3 жыл бұрын

I played through the game with default controls since launched and didn't change it until about three months ago, when I changed the controls to what I felt made more sense. The first couple weeks was really confusing and awkward, but then muscle memory starts doing its thing again. It really just depends on if something frustrates you about the controls, even if you're used to it. For me, Shoot (especially for Nero) was a big one.

@darthkahn45

3 жыл бұрын

I've been playing with an og DMC1 layout which is even more awkward since the very start 😂 Can definitely relate to being stuck in your ways. It's so awkward that I've pretty much hit a skill wall and am totally fine with it.

Wouldn't that be AMAZING tho to use a Guitar Hero controller and be good with it? Nevan ain't got SHIT on dis guy

@gab4198

Жыл бұрын

you could style in the game and on real life at the same time

4:00 manias que a gente acaba levando para tudo quanto é jogo. Em bayo o gameplay fica bem debilitado se o jogador fica 90% do tempo segurando o lock on