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@timothygibson4596

6 ай бұрын

The reason most cheaters are not being picked up by the anti cheat is DMA cards, the cheaters are mostly using a secondary computer to run the cheating software. Then accessing the cheats via usb on the dma card, Games like Tarkov, pubsbg, apex, mw and pretty much Any shooter. NONE of the anti cheat programs are capable of detecting these cheats, idc what you say or believe but facts are that None of these can or ever will detect them unless they start detecting hardware and not just software. We are not even close to that capability yet, anti cheat developers need to step it up or they are going to be losing customer faith in pretty much every game.

@BaBaNaNaBa

6 ай бұрын

glad I swapped shooters and dropped ow years ago.

@15muffinz

6 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure for the spin bot, they have a mouse input within the mod spin at a specific speed. The refresh rate of the monitor of the cheater.. I'm positive that you could guess in check what is FPS is. I say that that's true because every time the frame has to be given to the computer that's controlling the hacker account would then be aligned just right so the hacker still has control over the character without actually seeing the spin themselves... it's probably why you see it so hard in the replay, You're a frustrated out of sync! you got to turn on vsync too(this is just a hypothesis I am not a hacker) BUT a way for Blizzard to combat this would be to essentially have a condition in each game to check if you start spinning over a certain RPM for a given amount of time such that one gets banned.. lol (I say make it timed too so that way if someone is spinning over a consistent RPM for a certain amount of time then they get banned not just if they start spinning their mouse like a crazy. that number for how fast you spend doesn't necessarily have to be arbitrary. do the math for the fastest DPI mouse on the market and the longest mouse pad and then you have your answer for how fast and how long someone can spin (granted I have a mouse that's 19,000 DPI but I feel like my method is sound for 99.9% of the 25 cases out there) I can imagine a hacker team-rocketing themselves onto the ban-wagon. but I would run this check for a solid couple weeks to get as many of these blatant hackers out of the way as possible. ❤ if you got connections let them know

@15muffinz

6 ай бұрын

​@@timothygibson4596 Read my comment on this thread... for spinbotters in particular any game developer is very much able to make a detection system for it without needing to detect whether or not there are mods. k :)

@15muffinz

6 ай бұрын

​@@BaBaNaNaBawhat do you play? 007 GoldenEye?

15:45 The Bastion turning his head toward Cassidy fucking sent me 💀😂😂

It was already bad when Ana never scoped in, but holy cow I did not expect it to go that crazy in third round

@xDjembex

6 ай бұрын

Im pretty sure the Ana purposely avoids shooting enemies as often as possible to avoid suspicion.

@Antonio-ys5zd

6 ай бұрын

I bet the time they were Ana was all projectile cheats so they couldn't scope in. But it was bound to heals only when it came to the shots because the Cass is terrible. Then on Bap they only dps. You never saw a heal other than the ability because it wasn't programmed for heals. Basically the support is boosting the Cass and they both cheat

i cant be the only one that almost started crying of laughter after the Cass started spining lmao

@ninthfriend3347

6 ай бұрын

Bruh I was eating and I had to be very careful when I saw Cass spin botting lmao

@hersheysskiss6812

6 ай бұрын

@@ninthfriend3347you and me both😂almost spit out my cereal

@DylanSmithOwns

6 ай бұрын

You mean McCree?

@PurpleMoon799

6 ай бұрын

​@@DylanSmithOwns no they very clearly don't

@bobrulz

6 ай бұрын

Spinbotting is objectively hilarious

Gotta love how his teammates just looked at him like "wtf?".

@SquishyMain

6 ай бұрын

The bastion looking at him XD

The best part about OW2 nowadays is watching cheating montages LOL

@leemon_fox

6 ай бұрын

Indeed

@chbloss

6 ай бұрын

Might as well just call it Cheaterwatch 2.

@bullheatto8565

6 ай бұрын

Never saw something more fitting than this 😂

@dominickjadon

6 ай бұрын

Honestly 💀

@Grinderflow

6 ай бұрын

Ow2 should get s loot System like you should search your ults in other Player Ass

It seems like a heal cheat would be so much more effective because people arent seeing it in their kill can and getting triggered by it. You could be the ultimate healbot and 99% of people would never know

@serendipityhere2029

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but isn't it crazy that isn't picked up by anti cheat? Like your aim accuracy at that point is over 90%, shouldn't that trigger something? Also, heal bot only gets you so far. I can see why it would be beneficial on ana/bap seeing as their dmg kit is very useful

@dash4800

6 ай бұрын

@@serendipityhere2029 does healing count to accuracy? Idk, but even so they could jus shoot randomly to lower it like other cheaters do. As far as usefulness if you had a genji jumping around and you never missed a heal on him he could basically never die so I imagine it could get you pretty high just by making 1 dps invincible.

@serendipityhere2029

6 ай бұрын

@dash4800 well it's tracked but not in the right hand panel with tab on Ana. I think it's only her scoped accuracy. But it's tracked in your profile otherwise which means it's in the background and should get flagged

Never in a million years would I think I would see an aimbot for heals

@jomoju

6 ай бұрын

Jay3 has a video with a moira aimboting

@sassy7250

6 ай бұрын

I saw one on xbox in ow1 back when hacks became more common... its wild tbh

@NeroGlitched

6 ай бұрын

​@@jomojuif someone needs aimbot for moria they should quit ow2

@jomoju

6 ай бұрын

@@NeroGlitched if someone needs cheats , they must quit videogames

@Star_Rattler

6 ай бұрын

uh... i mean no disrespect, but what do you mean? you really honestly didn't think aimbots could be team friendly in order to heal? like, how on earth was that not a possibility in your mind? there's aimbots for hitscan/projectile, certain abilities have their own bots like dva's matrix and rein v rein shatter blocks, but somehow healing aimbots just didn't occur to you? and please understand im genuinely not trying to be mean, i am NOT calling you stupid, i am just honestly fascinated by how you thought this lol

Also, the codes for the ana heals and nade is lowkey kind of cool. The way it's coded. Cheating bad, but the code is cool

@zendakk

6 ай бұрын

It's nothing special, the stock Ana AI bot does it. What's *really* cool, though, is the cheaters' teammates enabling them, who would say no to free SR!

@bobrulz

6 ай бұрын

@@zendakk You can't tie a control game so might as well.

The shear amount of people that use wall hacks alone has been ridiculous. I tried jumping on this morning only to be put in losing match after losing match with enemy teams pre firing while tracking through a wall in the kill cam for eighty percent of the deaths. The cheating community in this game is making the experience more than miserable.

@Cameron_7127

6 ай бұрын

In what rank?

@sketchibearz5638

6 ай бұрын

Rank is non-specific right now. This has been a common theme across the board.

@Sharkgobrrrr

6 ай бұрын

I`d prefer walls to aimbot.

@PurpleMoon799

6 ай бұрын

​@@Sharkgobrrrr usually those two are a package deal that come together.

@thehorse5307

6 ай бұрын

I had a Widow that was blatantly wall hacking. She consistently headshotted me every time I peaked for even half a second from an off angle, and would then turn to the tank that's out in the open and miss every single headshot. I made it my mission to go through every corridor I could and purposely move in erratic patterns to avoid getting clipped, and I run over to her and her pathetic pocket mercy and rinse them. Our team ended up winning by quite a bit because I was essentially 1v2ing the mercy pocket and the wall hack widow. She had a much better KD than I did but getting useless picks from all the way across the map doesn't really help if you're spending half the game waiting for people to peak a corner whilst your team is getting melted and your mercy isn't out there reviving anyone in favour of DMG boosting you.

I wouldn't even be surprised if these two aren't an actual duo, just two cheaters who happened to play on the same team. With how many cheaters there have been recently, they're bound to run into each other, right?

@theangrywig3905

6 ай бұрын

They mightve done the group invite method where they tried inviting them to a group but the cheaters were already in one

@AngrySecs

6 ай бұрын

​@@theangrywig3905plot twist, each cheater is duod with one of the other players and boosting their accounts. So 4 cheaters on this team 👀

@RemedieX

6 ай бұрын

​​@@theangrywig3905 That's easy to avoid though, just leave group in the match. Many players do it. Unless these two are dumb ig or don't care

When they say Round 3 is when the shit hits the fan, I didn't imagine it to be quite so literally 😂 and the fan is the spinning Cass

I guess Bobby Kotick took the anti-cheat with him when he left, because that spinning Mcree is just way too obvious not to pick up.

@Pickled_Poet

6 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking. The anti cheat must be so horrendous it doesn't pick up this much rapid movement

@amazingalaku

6 ай бұрын

um actually his name is cassidy now ☝🏽🤓

@ghoulbuster1

6 ай бұрын

There's no anti-cheat, OW2 relies on reports. It broke when "porting" OW to OW2

love how when the cass starts spin botting you see the bastion, sigma and Zen just looking at him at 15:45

18:43 "Don't ask me where I learned that trick"

15:14 THIS IS WHAT IT IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

I just want you to know that I am able to spot this shit from a mile away now because of you and your videos. This past week alone I have had 5 reports come back telling me I was correct in my suspicions of someone cheating.

@Jessespresso

6 ай бұрын

While these videos do help a tonne, I wouldn't take Blizzard banning people as validation. They usually don't look into the people they're banning, it's based on the amount of reports which is honestly pretty bad. I've been called out for hacking numerous times and reported because I'm having a good day and have fairly decent aim generally. But I'm not hacking. It's a genuine fear that my account will be banned for no reason at all and from what I've heard from other people - once it's banned there's no point in trying to recover it with Blizzard as they don't respond and stick to their guns whether they're wrong or not

I cant imagine the dissatisfaction that must come with never getting a legit kill for yourself

I always laugh my ass off when the spinbotting begins 😂😂😂

This type of content is fun to watch, but it is rather sad to see the state of things as well. The cheaters are emboldened, and when you let others believe they can walk all over you without consequences, they will.

@Sgthalo

6 ай бұрын

when you watcing it you think oh this is kinda funny. But then you play with or against this kind of bs and you want to rip your hair out..

love how the duo cheaters ego got hurt after losing only 1 round so they just said fuck it im not losing this game.

it just occurred to me with this vid that a spinbotting Cas ult may be the most dangerous thing ever. Bc of the bug Marblr showed off about rapidly moving targets in and out of view, you could probably ramp damage to asinine extremes by the end of the ult

@chara8074

5 ай бұрын

Wasnt that bug fixed

that Ana was literally healbotting

1:19 you can see da Cheeto dust on his pointer finger and his thumb

This is the first time I’ve ever rewatched a sponsored ad but as a former BSU esports player it’s so cool to see my team get show in an ad

The transition is flawless 4:25 😂😂

Gotta report the whole team at this point. No way the zen and sigma looked at the spinning, then proceeded to heal, shield, etc. To help this scum succeed.

@mortarlvl

6 ай бұрын

keep in mind control cannot be drawn. You either win or lose. I imagine if it were a drawable game, the teams would come to that concluaion themselves, but considering the circumstances I cannot say I blame the red team all too much. crappy situation all round, no legitamate (both definitions) competitive player wants to throw a game to compensate for a cheater

@joecon601

6 ай бұрын

@@mortarlvlit’s a gray area for sure since they can’t draw but idk how anyone would feel good winning with a cheater. I’d rather just throw and gift the enemy team a win then try my ass off helping some goobers who are bad enough to want to cheat in a video game.

@riverofphoenix

6 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I was thinking as well. They see the obvious hack and still decide to heal and shield the cheaters. Weird people. I’d gladly take the L and leave than win with cheaters. Are you really winning if you’re cheating?

@annylieseseraph6149

6 ай бұрын

Autopilot is strong

@dominickjadon

6 ай бұрын

@@joecon601 if most people are given the choice of their rank and consideration for you they are taking the rank 😂😂😂 let’s keep it 100

Thank for saving me from my constant drought. Always love to see your face in my feed

It’s crazy how bad these cheaters are lol it’s embarrassing watching them next to real players

I just got called slurs by an support duo who refused to heal and just stayed in the enemy backline. The next game im agaisnt the same support duo while im on tank and we got rolled. It wasnt even a tank diff when you looked at the stats. My other support was just doing nothing and I was usually left alone in the team fights. They even teabagged me multiple time whil soloulting me as while I was alone. This completely ruined my day until Flats decended from the Heavens and gave us a new video. Thank you. I dont even know why i started yapping this much💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@Manuelhana420

6 ай бұрын

As a tank you gotta stay strong. Everyone asks: What is the tank doing? Why ist tank so bad? No one asks: How is the tank ?

@Wildfire002

6 ай бұрын

Truth

@Pendarr

6 ай бұрын

It's okay to vent sometimes, it helps lol

@ghoulbuster1

6 ай бұрын

average comp game also if you see people flaming just block them.

The developers keep talking about improving the state of competitive, but nothing they do will matter when every lobby is riddled with cheaters. Its literally 1 in every 3 games for me and im in plat on console

@ajpardy7620

6 ай бұрын

The worst part is, so many people only think spinbotting is hacking, they can’t tell if someone has genuine aim or cheats because the majority of cheaters have very subtle cheats, in lower ranks I feel like it’s more obvious because no one has top 500 aim and tracking at that level 😂 but still most people just don’t care/realize unfortunately

I was offered a scholarship for an Esports team to go to college, but my family had me reject it because of several reasons. If you're reading this, let this be a reminder to listen to your dreams! Sure my life is good at a different college, but there hasn't been a day in my life since the offer I wish I'd accepted the scholarship.

Its refreshing to see a selfless heal cheat XD

Hey Flats, just wanted to say that I enjoy your content on all your channels. I myself do not play OW2 but used to play OW1 forever ago. Either way I enjoy your OW2 content regardless because your reactions to cheaters and the tiktoks are hilarious. Sorry to hear your apartment flooded, sending well wishes!!

Man red team should've thrown last point based on the spinbotting Cass alone but they kept playing. That's embarassing.

The more opponents cheat, the less credibility good players have, the more likely normal players are to start cheating to combat the players. And the cycle continues. The anti cheat isn’t strong enough and the punishments aren’t severe enough.

The sad part is that the sig sees the cass spinning, yet ensbles it

At 4:55, you can see at 0.25 speed when ana presses the button for heal nade, the aimbot flicks instantly to lead the projectile on the enemy jumping around. Literally aimbot flicking heal shots on teammates then fast flick to direct impact the nade. Edit: yeah he saw it, he rewinds and slows to watch it

@TNTNinja2

5 ай бұрын

Another thing Flats didn’t notice: he throws it *the frame* it’s off cooldown. There might be some code there to throw it as soon as it can be throw to hit an enemy

@TNTNinja2

5 ай бұрын

At least in some situations.

Sunday morning hackers? Hell yes let’s see how good their gamer chairs are Okay I enjoyed this one, so I’m gonna listen to it again while I brush off my car and boost it since it’s cold as balls here in cowtown ab lol

With how many of these Flats makes im starting to be surprised i havent run into run

@Eichhornchen-pincone

6 ай бұрын

theres a 99% chance you run into 1 but you just dont notice cause they toned it down or its a cheating Ana like this one that only triggers the cheat when its pointed at allies .

@zafe1142

6 ай бұрын

I have encountered them and these were children who perhaps were not loved by their parents. When you write in the general chat that they are cheating, their team begins to insult you and defend them. Apparently they run with a group

the inflow of cheaters is so true literally coming across them each week , everyday im just prepared to see new ones specifically in qp

18:43 "don't ask me where i learned that trick" lmaoo

13:13 it could be prediction based on sight since it was thrown before the sigma came into view meaning their cheat didn't snap.

Think they switch between shooting the enemy and teammate by 2 additional buttons on the side of the mouse like one for ememy and one for teammate, it will be more easier than scope to change target

the ana constantly meleeing was probably just them having their melee set to alt or tab, since they only ever melee'd when they go out of the game to mess with their cheats

Sick with Covid and my powers out since yesterday.. at least I got some entertainment lol keep doin what u do 👏

13:15 maybe no enemies in LOS for it to lock onto, so it just goes where they're aiming.

They melee because melee is binded to control key, and to switch window you use ctrl+tab so the ctrl trigger the melee. Used to happen to me too when i had to open discord or look at something during the game

It’s been a while since “good morning KZread” nearly made me shed a tear

Bc of all of the TF2 I’ve played, when the Cass started spinning all I could think was “here comes the GIT GUD GET LMAOBOX” in chat lol

He's just making sure the floor is made of floor leave him be 😂😂😂 15:10

I am feeling the whiplash from the both of their perspective… how can people play while watching that kind of screen, especially with that spinning makes me nauseous. 😂

Whenever they're meleeing it's because their melee is set to Alt, they're Alt+Tabbing

There's always so many questions as to how these cheats work and part of me wants Flats to have an interview with a dev of cheats like these but at the same time idk if that should be "enabled" I guess lol.

13:02 I think the difference was there were no targets on screen at the time of firing, so it just sent it.

The beyblade got me ngl💀💀

Dam flats, your beard looking fire

Sonic would be proud of that cass

LMAOOO THE SPINBOTTING CASSIDY "beyblade cass" 💀💀

I started playing Overwatch in season 5 and actually loved it, Season 8 is the first season that I haven't played a full game in since I started, I tried to play at one point but the Ps5 version had a major FPS issue, I wanted to go back and play but seeing videos with all these cheaters has put me off going back. Not sure if I am missing something but how do these cheaters manage to get passed the cheat engine and also how are they not being banned when we have youtubers content creators uploading proof of the person cheating 🤔

So many cheaters in OW. See them every day.

That Ana/Bap made me dizzy with how fast they were snapping to things x.x

OMG, just remembered that Widow Helicopter Cheater from last year with this vid! 😂 But, Cass makes this one cheapest looking. Lol

15:42 did reaper got a rework 😂😂😂

So with nade you can have two keybinds set up for it, but also it’s probably just set to target prioritize

no no no... that's just awkward doing damage before the fight XD

I think it's actually two different aim keys. 1 for enemies 1 for allies as they also snap nades to allies

The Segway into the shit was perfect

Boy this really escalated in round 3.

I guess is kinda a good thing cheaters are in higher ranks than mine, that tazmanian devil made me dizzy and their teammates made me sick, definetly rank means nothing now

I only started playing overwatch 2 this season. Made it to Gold now, but the volume of cheaters I meet daily is insane. I have reported 26 players in 2 weeks for aimbots, walls and spinbot. I really just want to try and get better, but when you end up facing cheats daily now its getting really hard work.

can someone explain how to change the speed of replay like flats has i have only the option for 0.25 0.50 etc

Flats with another sponsor???? POG👌🏾👌🏾

1:18 wha- whats that on your finger

I use left alt to melee in all games and so whenever I alt + tab to go to youtube or something I will always punch in my games. I wonder if that's the case with him? I don't know, just looked familiar, meleeing and then standing still lol

if melee isn't directly tagged into the cheat menu, it's probably him tabbing out; i have my melee set to LAlt so if i don't use RAlt-Tab to change windows, i melee every time.

man what's up with their team not giving up last point when they *know* they have a hecking spinbotting cas (not to mention the bap whose cheats weren't AS obvious but... still obvious by the end

@allanlugo7842

6 ай бұрын

There is no honor in GM because 'they care for rank'... pff nonsense

@RobABankWithABagel

6 ай бұрын

They can't draw this mode and most of the people in these ranks care way too much about their SR to take a loss. They'll just go "not my fault they cheated" and move on with their day. You only really see people in gm1 and t500 that will actively lose the match to fuck over cheaters, because they know they don't have to care about the SR.

I can’t wait for the widowmaker bots that look upwards and spin in circles

the spinbotter is definitely a Scatman (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop)

How do people do this and not get sick.. im getting sick JUST FRON THE BAP SNAPPING

that rat guys are going crazy a lot of hackers today per dya I saw like 4 of them on quick play in competitive should be worst

Cass really said, I'm a beyblade so let it rip

Finally a sponsor 🎉🎉🎉

Haven't heard the *Hello KZread I've got a goody for you today* in a while

There's gotta be a big ban wave coming. Maybe just before season 9 or something

I genuinely don't understand spinbotting. Like, how do you function like that? How can you see anyone to shoot them or even move? Hell, why not just boot up a regular aimbot? I'd look up these answers, but I've got a bad feeling about researching OW cheats, lol.

@alexandriasukumaran6466

6 ай бұрын

They see it from a third person perspective

no poop break included unlucky

the cheater videos are some of my favourite, almost makes me feel partly to blame for the influx of new cheaters lol.

Does anyone know if you actually see the spinning on spinbot?

@Bruhbruh01938

2 күн бұрын

I don’t think you can see it on ur actual screen, someone in some other video said the spinning is server sided so the cheater isn’t seeing it but idk

i think i know why the ana/bap is always meleeing, it opens the overlay to change settings, every time they do it their camera movement stops until they do it again so they have to be changing values or settings in that time ofc you figure it out in the video right after i write this comment...

HELICOPTER HELICOPTER! 😂😂😂

I think the scariest part of this is that with the advancement of these cheats we might see cheats to fix positioning soon in the game, like a bot that always moves your character to the best place depending on the enemies and your teams position

@green31OSU

6 ай бұрын

That seems pretty unlikely anytime soon, as you'd probably need some sort of live AI analysis of the game that factors in which characters your team has, which characters the other team has, where all those characters are, their health state, which abilities are up/down, who is engaged vs falling back, etc. Basically it'd have to play the entire game for you. I don't know of any bot characters (this is basically what you'd be talking about) in any game that even remotely approach that level of competency.

The melee could be them opening up a mod menu like how it was on Cod

A Pure Sniper ad just played before this

15:15 bro stole Reaper’s ult

Looks like every single Cassidy I play against 😂 just average Cassidy behaviour

Johnny G legacy lives on

What's code behind spinbotting? was it just for flexing or other mechanic only work with spin bot? I mean isn't it going to blow their cover?

Ive been on console (xbox) i noticed whenever i think there was a hacker in a game i am not able to watch the replay and disconnects me. Idk if its a glitch or hacks are getting better.

His teammates were watching him spinbotting and still continued to play. Like, what the hell? Surely at that point you start intentionally throwing?