I Spectated A Cheater Vs Cheater Ego Battle In Overwatch 2
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you know what makes it better? all of the hanzo dragons were targetted directly at the widow, EVERY SINGLE TIME.
@OhPureLily
8 күн бұрын
was def rooting for hanzo in this (as muchq as one can root for a cheater)
idk exactly why, but the "what happened to the game i loved" just hit different
@Lynkah
Ай бұрын
I feel like this sentiment happens so often in blizzard games. Maybe all AAA games. Always becomes profits and share holders over the consumer experience.
@stormi8029
Ай бұрын
both Team Fortress 2 and Titanfall 2 and Counter Strike 2 fans are with you honey
@Sxnderjyden
Ай бұрын
Free to play
@dogwiththumbs8392
Ай бұрын
@@Sxnderjyden so i guess that gives excuse to shit all over the revenue and popularity they made from this free to play game. Edit: they being blizzard Not flats.
@Sxnderjyden
Ай бұрын
@@dogwiththumbs8392 you do not get it LOL if you ban them they make new account and stats over again for free
I cannot believe this entire duel started because the widow missed their first 3 shots and literally couldn't take it
@lukaszboczar2441
Ай бұрын
Honestly it's equivalent to a child throwing a tantrum
@blazer6982
Ай бұрын
I think the other cheater taunted them as well
@nemebliss
Ай бұрын
Cheaters have the most fragile egos
@flamingythermit314
Ай бұрын
No because these are the "nuh-uh I'm invincible" kids but fully grown and given free reign. They literally can't handle not being perfect and winning all the time so they'd rather ruin it for everyone else involved
@oz2159
Ай бұрын
U see cheaters in the lower ranks and highest ranks the most. Lower rank cheaters just cant stand losing And the higher ranked cheaters often have to much money and time and even worse if you make money from playing the game by lets say streaming then you could even afford higher quality cheats that never will be detected as you still end up making more money as without the cheats there is no streaming career.
3 cheating videos in a week oh yeah we’re in the red with cheaters 💀
@Antonio-ys5zd
Ай бұрын
We are well past the red
@Thirstylion314
Ай бұрын
Don’t forget to buy the next $40 skin that turn you into a walking AD 😂😂
@Monkey832
Ай бұрын
Not as bad as TF2 is
@Funay31
Ай бұрын
Last sunday after only playing for 3 hours I played against 4 cheaters and played with 2 cheaters 6 cheaters game in only 3 hours, its unbelievable
@aaronneypes8187
Ай бұрын
I'm going to play comp once they do a huge ban wave. I fell so much due to playing against Sombra and Widows with excellent tracking and there is no teamwork to even make it hard for them.
Its crazy how they have a bot to ban people for "inappropriate communications" faster then they do for genuine cheaters. I hate that I enjoy the game because watching it burn hurts even more.
@claridge7549
Ай бұрын
Damn. This comment hits different.
@iamcool544
Ай бұрын
I mean a slur is easy to detect and there isnt an excuse for it. You dont even need to review it. If a program doesnt get detected by the anti cheat it has to be manually reviewed after receiving enough reports.
@mrneptune4423
Ай бұрын
@@iamcool544 I mean its as simple as having a client side anti-cheat rather than a server side like ow. The way these programs work is by access the WinAPI and accessing the info stored in RAM. Just have an anti-cheat that detects if memory safety is off and dont let them play. Really as simple as that especially with the WinAPI and the windows sdk.
@Mickeyboi
Ай бұрын
@@iamcool544 Slurs sure but you get banned for saying "fucking idiot" so I dont know man
@Shzl47
Ай бұрын
They aren't fighting 3rd-party programs when it comes to in-game chats.
I love the sarcasm of "impeccable gameplay" "perfect triganometry"
@jawsh_fan0319
Ай бұрын
They must be brain surgeons, with that much accuracy and coordination
@clear-oi7us
Ай бұрын
@@jawsh_fan0319that doesnt correlate
@12inchesSofT
Ай бұрын
@@clear-oi7usit totally does POS SOB😊
I feel like Overwatch uses Flats to do their job of banning Cheaters
@A_Name136
Ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume Overwatch bans the cheaters in Flats vids
@keeganpestana8070
Ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume Blizzard does anything
@zerada00
Ай бұрын
Imagine if Blizzard did anything at all.
@mindlessftw
Ай бұрын
Good luck with that. It's all automated buddy. And the guy that wrote that code is long gone
@DrFreeman23
Ай бұрын
@@mindlessftw probably wrote it in COBOL 😂
32:55 the enemy moira and friendly rein just chilling and protecting her from his own cassidy was too funny.
i wish replays had chat replays too cause id love to see it hahaha
3:53 had a chuckle seeing a 360 T-pose go from door to door
@Mono_Neko
Ай бұрын
I love you for that
@Nephilim2809
Ай бұрын
thank you for the comment XDD I went back and rewatched it, made my day 🤣😭
@Tyiuer
Ай бұрын
The Cassidy stretching at 8:26 is pretty good too lol
@hommefataltaemin
Ай бұрын
I noticed that too 😂 looks so goofy I love it
@akiramatoi4158
Ай бұрын
lol same. i thought "wait did that really just happen" i had to run it back to check lol
Having the gaming chair ad pop up while flats reviews cheating vods is pure comedy
Lore accurate hanzo vs lore accurate widow
@social_exe
Ай бұрын
Accurate comment
@PriceGG
Ай бұрын
Lore accurate comment
@julidee_
Ай бұрын
real
@OGAntzmo
Ай бұрын
💀
@LiterallySpikeSpiegel
Ай бұрын
Hanzo solos.
I adore the fact these two are so deadset on targeting each other that they're barely impacting the match. The moment these two are on the map, their teams have a 4v4 team fight on each point.
8:28 what da cowboy doin
@ZaWrldo
Ай бұрын
He stanced up
@Frida1545
Ай бұрын
the way he just flings off the screen in the end 🤣
@masterspartanchief33
Ай бұрын
He’s ascending. Let him cook
The “weeeee” during the spin botting part at the end confused our cat so much she ran out of the room panicking 😂
"No one gives a f*ck about integrity in this game anymore, everyone plays to win at all times" That hit me hard ngl... that's why I can't play ranked too much, my anxiety just goes through the roof because of this :')
Hazon: A gift, for you. Widow: Ooh la la!
@malasiradnd517
Ай бұрын
AILEEMOM2007
Definitely feels like a overall gaming cheater epidemic or something
@Thirstylion314
Ай бұрын
No it’s an OW thing bc the devs worry more about selling $40 skins than the actual integrity of the game…
@GarroThposer
Ай бұрын
They're talking about Siege and I think TF2 cause it's just all over the Internet
@dluxfps6892
Ай бұрын
@@Thirstylion314 nah all games have cheaters right now. Apex mostly but also fortnite r6 overwatch pubg cod its bad
@casull2041
Ай бұрын
dude apex, i'm d2 rn and holy the amount of ppl getting removed mid match 😂@@Thirstylion314
@costyxd97
Ай бұрын
@@dluxfps6892cs as well
They should just make separate cheater lobbies. If they want to run bots and walls they can play in a full game of people running the same stuff. Don't ban them so they know it's time to VPN and make a new account just put them in bad behavior lobbies like in R6
@jbcroos918
Ай бұрын
Or give unlimited dva bombs to all the players when a cheater is detected in a 7v1
@griffenchildress9627
Ай бұрын
call of duty does that. It's called shadowbanning. People who cheat get put in lobbies with other cheaters. The issue with that is that sometimes people who are legit would get put in shadowbanned lobbies.
@Hoodini2253
Ай бұрын
Give them dunce hats and their own lobbies like in gta
@PopThatOrder66
Ай бұрын
Or people who are cheating get their dmg reduced to 1 no matter what they do. I'd love to see that
@sn8wball
Ай бұрын
@@PopThatOrder66the point of a shadow ban is to not let the cheater know they’ve been caught, and let them burn their little cheating steam off on other losers in cheater only games. Though someone else brings up the downside of this solution, genuinely good players can be put into these shadow banned lobbies and have their experience ruined.
The anti-cheat got laid off in the Microsoft merger
love a good enemies to lovers story. can't wait for the next episode
The problem with ban waves is that it allows cheaters to continue cheating for several weeks without getting banned, rather than being banned instantly and not getting to play at all. It emboldens them to continue cheating in the future
@isaacsimpson8098
Ай бұрын
That's a really good point. If they get to play for a few weeks they're more motivated to find other cheats. They get banned instantly they might actually realise it was a waste of money
@springroll4421
Ай бұрын
ultimately its better long run tho. You gotta lure the rats out of their hole with the cheese so the mousetrap can get em. Given they have said IP bans are on the table, this WILL cut the cheaters down, there will always be some but having to circumvent an IP ban is a serious hurdle at least.
@willoe55
Ай бұрын
It lets cheaters play for a little longer but it overall works better. PirateSoftware explained in a video that ban waves are used because it helps prevent the cheat developer from knowing how it was detected and give them a whole bunch of angry customers to deal with at once.
@StrictlyDeft
Ай бұрын
With blatant cheats yeah an instant ban makes sense. Otherwise, no, ban waves are better for keeping cheaters away for sometime. Cheaters are gonna cheat.
@JayS96Bruh
Ай бұрын
The issue with instant banning is it allows the cheat makers to toggle cheats on one by one until the account gets banned. Thus telling them what cheat codes they need to modify in real time. By doing ban waves the idea is the cheat providers then have to dissect the anti cheat to discover what got their code flagged. Cheats will always be a game of cat and mouse where the game devs are having to react on the back foot.
For anyone wondering about the melee, Overwatch defaults the Melee button to mouse 4 which is really closer to toggle switches on many mice like the Logitech ones. I've accidentally hit melee when I move up or down my sensitivity if I alt tab or change characters.
@Aerogrow
Ай бұрын
eh... cheats normally have auto-melee and is a dead giveaway.
@ladyhdwastaken
Ай бұрын
I accidentally do it because of how I hold my mouse 😂 I hate it so much. Had to train a new mouse grip. Luckily I play tank so no reason to not melee sometimes I guess
flats out here speedrunning the five stages of grief in one video
@malasiradnd517
Ай бұрын
AILEE2007MOMCVX YRJENSFW9
Who would have thought this would happen when it went free to play? Weird.
@battel_bruser3928
Ай бұрын
Free play isn't the problem, the problem is blizzard is lazy and doesn't care. It's not the games fault it's failing. It's on the company that refuses to actually change the game to not host cheaters, and terrible balance
@ripcoify
Ай бұрын
@@battel_bruser3928 It's part of the problem when you can keep creating accounts and cheating with no consequences.
@isaacsimpson8098
Ай бұрын
And all the smurfs too
@sjfarias96
Ай бұрын
There are many free to play games that have a functioning anti cheat system.
@questionable_live
Ай бұрын
Ummm not sure if you remember but when Overwatch 1 went dormant the games used to be filled with cheaters
Hey guys, It's me Sesuko I know my aim and awareness is good but call me a cheater? come on... Now for real... that guy is not me and I don't know why he has my name, btw, good video Flats :D
@deriestricyt1460
Ай бұрын
No cuela sesuko
@Hayday21465
Ай бұрын
Te pillaron Sesu
@Finibs
Ай бұрын
Te han pillado acéptalo ya sexuco
“2-taps him off the 🤬ing WHEEEEEEE” is a quote for our time this season of overwatch.
Shoutout to both the mercy players hard pocketing the cheaters, classic
if overwatch esports had an anime this is what the main character and the rival matches would look like lmfaooo
The baffling thing to me is that if you're so bad at aiming, you could play like 15 other heroes that require less/no aiming skill. That's the thing about overwatch specifically. You do not have to be able to aim well to get to Masters, even GM. THERE ARE SO MANY HEROES THAT DO NOT REQUIRE GOD LEVEL AIM. Yet here we are...
What a match, two players helping each other to reach higher levels of gameplay.
17:20......My favorite moment of this video when the Widow tries to melee punch the dragon. 🤣
Flats glitched out at 9:00😂
@zainepittman653
Ай бұрын
Nah bro, it was a fast forward. 😂 Sidenote: I imagine you were joking and knew it was a time lapse.
Flats sounded like he was on helium this whole video. Bro was so bewildered 😂❤
this feels like a normal game that slowly descends into weird surreal horror over time.
30:44 the moment Flats went insane. but seriously, i never thought you guys would get to this point, my side of the bridge being TF2 our problem has been general neglect as its been in the development graveyard for years now, OW is still in active development, you still have a full dev team, and your dealing with THIS IN THE HIGHER TIER GAMES.
@legojay14
Ай бұрын
Does overwatch even have community servers. Cause as bad as it is in tf2. At least you can avoid them there. Here I legit don't know if you can set up personal defenses for it
@YTHandlesWereAMistake
Ай бұрын
I genuinely went "oh no we finally lost him"
@YTHandlesWereAMistake
Ай бұрын
@@legojay14nah ow is more developer-fed There are community made game modes via custom games but very little play those, and almost never someone plays seriously. Mainly because average QP/ranked isnt that bad most of the time. And you get less leavers in a game where nearly each fight matters a lot and every player has 15-20% responsibility of the team, being down a player is detrimental to success and winning with a leaver is very, very heard. TF2 you jump in play a bunch and leave, nobody cares cause of all the goofiness and stuff, OW/2 you wait in queue and expect a game to play out till the end with all the players actually trying to win. Expect here might be a bit of a stronger word, but you wish for it to happen.
@danielwilliams7727
Ай бұрын
@@legojay14 for your question, yes and no. it does somewhat but you have to go looking for them and they are usually the modded games. however the TF2 community servers are NOT safe from the bots. if you have heard of Uncletopia, its one of the biggest community servers in the game, and its even been getting attacked by the bots. (also a side note the bots are now doing virus links in the chat via CP*** ads)
@strangejune
Ай бұрын
"Full dev team" is a stretch.
28:31 mercy’s face is what every overwatch players face looks like every game
My cat was offended by the “wee” sounds towards the end.
@synsura
Ай бұрын
Mine too hahaha
It’s a small detail but the pause from window after spawning at 11.40 then the ‘triggered’ thing coming into frame is pure art
New to OW so its always cool seeing vids from ya and DANG the editor's choice in osts are awesome❤
"What happened to the game I love?" this sums up my feelings on the current state of overwatch. I really hope that this hotfix today addresses some of these issues but I'm not holding my breath.
@springroll4421
Ай бұрын
wait what hotfix?
@meekpigeon
Ай бұрын
@@springroll4421 my b, it was just battlenet launcher maintenance
@I_am_a_cat_
Ай бұрын
copium, really. We always hope the next update or patch will fix it... It never does
@LiterallySpikeSpiegel
Ай бұрын
It just gets progressively worse after each update, man. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I would give anything to have Overwatch 1 back.
@meekpigeon
Ай бұрын
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel same though. The game is degrading so much from what it used to be
Ese es sesuko streamer y youtuber no es hacker, vean su canal es muy bueno
@samdomg6780
25 күн бұрын
Si es hacker
@julianjasso739
25 күн бұрын
@@samdomg6780 no bro buscalo
@TomiproX
25 күн бұрын
No es sesuko
Cheater spectating, bashing is some of my favorite content! Glad it might make a come back :)
The Illiari spinning like a Sky Dancer when slowing down the footage😂
Blizzard is truly the Diablo immortal of game developers
@poemz87
Ай бұрын
Its not only Blizzard... take a look at Apex state atm, CS and other shooters/ BR`s...
@BigOwl51
Ай бұрын
@@poemz87apex and CS are a million times better than Overwatch right now 😊
@Luciferthekingofpurgitory
Ай бұрын
@@BigOwl51when’s the last time you had a cheater in your game?
@BigOwl51
Ай бұрын
@@LuciferthekingofpurgitoryI haven’t played in a week but last time I played I got 2 cheaters in a day, which is two too many for a billion dollar company’s game.
@9mmSurpressor
Ай бұрын
@@LuciferthekingofpurgitoryI’ve had cheaters every day in at least one match for the last 4 days not even CS was this bad
Jajaja wtf! Sesuko is a Spanish OW KZreadr. Actually he made a video reaction of this video. If I wanna see, some formative ow videos, that youtuber is too good. Nice day folks
“Perfectly geometry” that one Hanzo every time he sees the widowm
bro the looking down at the floor i busted out laughing
30:16 That guy is pissed the hell off lmao
Don’t know how to tell y’all this, but a game becoming a playground for cheaters is pretty much the single most historically well known sign that a game can be called “dead”. TF2 sends regards.
@andreamicheli2575
Ай бұрын
It's certantly more alive than that Russian bot farm were you come from.
Cheater vids are my favorite vids. I understand they aren't flat's favorite but I sure do love them.
It's sad, I wish Blizzard cared more about their games. I remember actually enjoying OW1 when me and my friends first got it. But the hacker/cheater situation just kept growing and I fell out of it cause it felt like every match I was the only one not cheating. I would love to get into OW2 but the situation has only intensified and I am not eager to interact with those people again.
Funny how the Hanzo was blind firing his ult at the spawn door the Widow was coming out of. Several times!
I just love watching flats sm plus its on my birthday :)
@anarchium_wellsquest
Ай бұрын
birthday twiiins
@Mscristagalli
Ай бұрын
Happy Birthday!
@anarchium_wellsquest
Ай бұрын
@@Mscristagalli thaaaanks
@Twitchy2
Ай бұрын
@@Mscristagalli thank u😁
from what i remember during my cod days, the melee button or aim button is to hit "confirm" or select whatever it is theyre turning on
BRO the Rein at 20:40 turned into a Raptor Jet just nyooom
The Something with the Melee is the toggle, had a soldier who had it bound to his crouch key in a game the other day, crouch to toggle on and off. most use melee as it is common button to hit.
Came back from a weekend away to see the majority of OW vids be about rampant cheating and complaints about the game in general 😂
This Hanzo is straight up "YOU GOT CHEATS ILL SHOW YOU CHEATS!"
Flats not noticing the cass floating at 8:26 only made it funnier
I'm glad that someone is bringing a bit of awareness that cheats dont always look like aimbotting. every time you try to call one out people try to gaslight you into you are just bad and is just your ego hurting, but that's the thing, nowadays cheat look really natural, and unless you analyze them at 0.1 like flats is doing is really difficult to see anything, apart that someone with no skins/icon/title on a gold lobby playing like shit but with a better aim than the pros in the OWL. so frustrating...
@karamei
Ай бұрын
Yeah most cheaters aren't going to be ragehacking like this and I always get weirded out when people play devil's advocate for cheaters just because the aim isn't the most blatant thing ever. Like what are they gaining by doing that lol
@ShoKasaki2k12
Ай бұрын
Happens a lot over in CoD land and it is just "they're good at abusing rotational aim assist." Like, no... no, they aren't.
Sesuko? That's a famous Spanish overwatch streamer XD
@ThisIsMaXxYT
Ай бұрын
I believe that is a random cheater that uses his name with a brand new account because doesn't own any skin or gold weapon
@kms4852
Ай бұрын
He is an imposter, Sesuko likes Ashe more and uses skins xd
Recently I have been getting so many games where I'm like 'that was kinda sus'
i honestly love this, its gonna help point out whats happening to the game and also give us entertainment with the "weeeeeeeeee". bring back spectating cheaters pls
@flats About the melee thing at 8:55. I have my melee key on my mouse where my thumb rest. When panic ensues, I could accidentally press it, but I’m not sure about other people’s melee key binds
@kattastrophe7240
Ай бұрын
I've got my melee bound the same way, just because it's so much easier to click in a pinch. I've changed mouses since I originally bound it like that, and my current mouse makes it so much easier to accidentally hit it whenever my thumb so much as twitches. lol But it's also entirely possible aimbotters have a toggle bound to their melee button just to potentially be "less sus" if/when called out for cheating.
@karamei
Ай бұрын
This is definitely something I've noticed in cheater vods though, I was so happy to hear Flats mention it because I've been wondering about it for a while but never heard it acknowledged until now. They do singular melees at random times that don't make sense in the context. Legit players (myself included) melee randomly plenty, too, but we will hit it more than once, and it will be at a time where we are in an idling mode like walking from spawn or something. So it there is still some "logic" to it. Btw I also have my melee bound to the same place! (It's on 5, which is in the middle of the gaming mouse's numpad where my thumb is.)
@greatbritain1799
Ай бұрын
@@karamei There is absolutely 0 correlation to meleeing with cheaters, most of the internal cheats have their menu bound to insert or a key that has no action bound in-game.
@oz2159
Ай бұрын
@@greatbritain1799 Triggers are usually on melee, spray and emote. Why u think u see so many people spray all the time in higher Elo's? Like toggles are bound to action keys because if u keep pressing a unregistered button all the time in overwatch consistently then you are kinda self reporting.
@greatbritain1799
Ай бұрын
@@oz2159 That's not how it works at all, How are you self reporting if you're pressing an action key that is unbound?
That is such a bad response to hacks... "i only have cheats in case the other team cheats" but then proceeds to flick them on as soon as he gets killed. i have seen SO many players go from noob aim to top 500 aim after losing the first team fight and respawning with hacks on. Cheating is cheating no matter your excuse, don't sink to their level.
That Rein went flying at 20:39 XD
32:14 listen to Kiri's ult audio swapping between left and right channels oh my god
all this and they wont get banned but i will get banned for asking my team to counter swap
@goreroses
Ай бұрын
Good
@jrpgnation6375
Ай бұрын
Good
@asonofliberty3662
Ай бұрын
Good
@rhiisnow
Ай бұрын
Good
@Eheap2002
Ай бұрын
Good
Bro cheaters really not getting banned anymore, im getting more in my games tooo
When the floor cheats started that was the saddest “aw mannn” I’ve e v e r heard
Everyone needs to watch this video, so often people think "they're not cheating" but there are clear signs and flats explains them really well
I love these videos but it’s so sad to see that this is a regular thing that happens I was at my mates place and he doesn’t play comp to often but the times he does this is what happens and he’s not even high elo it’s so sad
Flats vs Drums *GO*
@vanishhero964
Ай бұрын
Drums for maximum dipping efficiency
@Jermel456
Ай бұрын
@@vanishhero964yes but, flats for maximum meatage.
Beyblade McCree is the most hilarious Overwatch thing I've ever seen!
"Is the anti-cheat taking a nap?!"
“What happened to the game I love” so poetic
just amazing this game has become
Petition to call a spinbotting Cass, a jellyfish cuz that's what he looks like spinning so fast
I never thought that projectile weapons would have been aimbotted so well. Damn.
An unstoppable force versus an immovable object
When Flats mentions the random melee, I’m pretty sure cheats have an auto melee feature.
Too funny...great review!!
Around 24:00 when the cheating widow popped ult, rein held his shield up for mercy to get across the choke. HONOR AND GLORY
I hate it when you're wiping an your finger pokes through the toilet paper. Ruined my morning.
i crave cheese
@Ultrabrawlar
Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@nothingtoseehere2
Ай бұрын
I also crave your cheese
@centreruran3902
Ай бұрын
@@nothingtoseehere2 D:
it will never not be hilarious to me how easily bruised a cheater's ego is
this is the average enemy Hanzo in my quick play games 😭
Console full of xim cheaters.
They could add something like a priority report system for trusted streamers to use while streaming, only while streaming
There is no such thing as coincidence in this world. Only inevitability.
Why are one shots even in this game?
57 seconds 23 views bro fell off
I noticed at the start of this year a slow but steady rise in cheaters, which was when I stopped playing because I KNEW this would happen.
That widow had the most obvious triggerbot I've seen in a while xD.
It’s like a three stage Pokémon evolution lmao
"Oh no, I took 1 single bodyshot! So anyway, I started blasting"
The Hanzo straight up bullied the widow 😭😭 He solo ults her and she tries punching the dragons
i agree with you for the most part on the melee key thing, but on that one where hanzo was going for the point on lucio you can see the hit marker where it makes contact, i think he was just desperate on that one
usually when people melee randomly, its because they have a cheat menu open and their melee hotkey is the same one the use to toggle the cheat menu options. it used to be like that in call of duty back in the day