I shouldn't have bought this Abandoned Ford Tractor

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

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Today on the channel we get into the meat and potatoes of the Ford 861 Diesel tractor rebuild. With so many snags can we persevere and get the motor together?
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  • @jstorrer1
    @jstorrer14 ай бұрын

    Only way to restore an old tractor and end up with a small fortune, is to start with a large fortune!! I’m restoring a 1960 1801 industrial, same engine…. Nice work!

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Good engines they seem

  • @davidwebb7254
    @davidwebb7254 Жыл бұрын

    Ps. Old school tip: put small peices hose on rod bolts so less likely to bang on rod sirfice of the crank! When installing pisston

  • @jazzerbyte
    @jazzerbyte Жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see how the double function clutch is constructed!

  • @8978Marty
    @8978Marty Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for keeping the old equipment running. Good job!!!

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 Жыл бұрын

    That lifter you forced in is a no no

  • @skycarp2002

    @skycarp2002

    Жыл бұрын

    My old heart skipped a few beats on that one.

  • @TENFIDUKE20

    @TENFIDUKE20

    11 ай бұрын

    Yep as soon as I seen that I was like he's gonna have a sticky lifter or stuck, bent, broke but any rebuilder will tell you we become complacent at times lol

  • @hh-qc7rp
    @hh-qc7rp Жыл бұрын

    Yes, please on the injection pump. Fascinating stuff. Your patience is admirable.

  • @dylantrimble799
    @dylantrimble799 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy all your videos, can’t wait for the paint vid. Keep up the great work

  • @richardmiller5238
    @richardmiller5238 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed! Good job!

  • @stevenhanding554
    @stevenhanding554 Жыл бұрын

    Its kool that u do this stuff. I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up

  • @frankmcnish8489
    @frankmcnish8489 Жыл бұрын

    Great video ,I have 3 super major I still use on the ranch for moving irrigation reels they are great

  • @CantKillMe
    @CantKillMe Жыл бұрын

    I have a shop by me that could fix that OEM crankshaft he's good at what he does but that's good you got it fix and getting it back together

  • @justinjdavis79
    @justinjdavis79 Жыл бұрын

    Nice job!! Love these old tractors

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @Military-Museum-LP
    @Military-Museum-LP Жыл бұрын

    Great video, great series.

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

    Always use NEW ROD BOLTS, replace the bolts, and test to see if they need to be resized , yes they will need to be removed, but I'd definitely replace rod bolts

  • @ianmoone2359

    @ianmoone2359

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Conrod bolts are “once off use” bolts. Definitely never to be used a 2nd time. They are actually called “torque to yield” bolts. They are designed to stretch to a point beyond which, they shrink back to their original length once used. So in essence they are stretched when torqued the first time the engine is assembled, and when disassembled they don’t shrink back to their original length. When you try to use them the second time, being already stretched, the original torque specs are enough to cause them to yield and snap or strip. And if you te-use them and they do torque up, it will be a lot higher torque than originally and they risk snapping under load when the engine is running. So older mechanics, who are used to rebuilding these older Ford 4 Cylinder wet sleeved engines in the Ford N9 (Ferguson TEA 20 motors, know that you can’t re-use the big end caps bolts. In a lot of respects it’s lucky that those ones did break on you, because it highlights this exact problem. Hopefully you were able to obtain replacements for them all, because otherwise you run the risk the old ones that remained may snap on you in use, which would be a real shame.

  • @markparker2873
    @markparker2873 Жыл бұрын

    great video and i would like to see more updates please! 🙂👍

  • @paulbrainard5876
    @paulbrainard58769 ай бұрын

    Good job! I enjoy your videos! Keep it up!

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!!

  • @danielernest8547
    @danielernest8547 Жыл бұрын

    Good job man.

  • @lifeafterourloss
    @lifeafterourloss Жыл бұрын

    That's an interesting oil seal. Almost wonder if it would work better to just pump that slot with silicone. I'm sure there is a good reason for that style.

  • @rustygoldworkshop4672
    @rustygoldworkshop4672 Жыл бұрын

    Great job. You’re doing great. Some time it gets overwhelming, I’m a field mechanic so I know how it gos. At least your in a shop.. I know you do stuff n the field too, I seen you videos. 😁😁

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah working in the ac on this one is nice lol

  • @92nbush
    @92nbush10 ай бұрын

    Just found this channel i have a 871 diesel select-o-speed i bought at a auction a few years back good running machine very fuel efficient only problem is the trans has issues im debating on swaping it over to a manual. Probably will repaint it at that point. I had a 841 i repainted in high school. Great tractors lots of power for the size

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah I just fired mine up finally. Excited to use it!

  • @kevinfrerichs8589
    @kevinfrerichs8589 Жыл бұрын

    Looking real good,

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

    I'd be really tempted to just buy a 4bt swap it in there! Call it a Cummings tractor! Or a 4-53 Detroit, put a GMC badge on it!! 👍

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    The series isn’t done yet 🤣🤣

  • @DK-vx1zc
    @DK-vx1zc Жыл бұрын

    Brings back memories for me.. I bought a "bargain" 860 for $600, had to put another $3000 into it. Ran great, but not the "bargain" I hoped for.. :)

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Gas or diesel?

  • @DK-vx1zc

    @DK-vx1zc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dieseJL gas

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish this was a gasser right about now haha

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

    I'd check out scat, see if they make a crank for it! And port the oiling system, radius any sharp turns, remove restrictions, look into improved oil pumps. Seems it can use the help, why lon earth do they use Soo many rings? Only a bell has more rings!! 😆, Maybe look into a oil cooler, atleast gauges . to be sure the pressure and Temperature is correct! But a turbo and a T-5 in a truck 👍

  • @WaynesAdventure
    @WaynesAdventure3 ай бұрын

    Awesome

  • @lawrencelipon8673
    @lawrencelipon86737 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍👍👍👌Absolutely amazing!!!

  • @vcurtis2061
    @vcurtis2061 Жыл бұрын

    Nice project

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Hopefully it turns into a nice tractor haha

  • @kenpenry6597
    @kenpenry6597 Жыл бұрын

    Sure enjoyed your video thank you

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the support!!

  • @TENFIDUKE20
    @TENFIDUKE2011 ай бұрын

    Yep as soon as I seen that I was like he's gonna have a sticky lifter or stuck, bent, broke but any rebuilder will tell you we become complacent at times lol

  • @toddsculley2710
    @toddsculley2710 Жыл бұрын

    That crank is fine it’s a tractor not a race truck

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Man I was so on the fence

  • @stan525
    @stan525 Жыл бұрын

    isn't that rough spot on the crank in line with the oil holes and do the bearings have a center relief that lines up with it, if so just clean/file it smooth so it wont cause bearing damage and run it. remember all mechanical things wear in before the wear out

  • @rogerspohn7938
    @rogerspohn7938 Жыл бұрын

    It would have been nice to see how you sealed the sides of the rear main seal. I have had people said they filled it with silicone. Otherwise good job of showing repair procesd.

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    I used the felpro seal and used generous amounts of rtv with it. I did not use the metal pins with it. amzn.to/3reBdPe

  • @dantimber
    @dantimber Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. I wish I had your skills!

  • @robertchryssikos1006
    @robertchryssikos1006 Жыл бұрын

    Hello I am a first time and I want to see more

  • @karenkartz3163
    @karenkartz3163 Жыл бұрын

    That crankshaft is junk! You don't check with a hammer. Rust pits if not deep will polish . Crankshaft are magnifluxed not hit with a impact

  • @elainecessna929
    @elainecessna929 Жыл бұрын

    I have no words

  • @dougdier3104
    @dougdier3104 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, you shouldn't have to drive in the lifters

  • @user-mh2wn4ie8q
    @user-mh2wn4ie8q Жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍Нестоит так ложиться под висячий двигатель, техника безопасности должна быть безопасной. Удачи и успехов. 🤝😉

  • @leemontoya8028
    @leemontoya80283 ай бұрын

    On my ford 1510 the Connecting rod bolts are 20 lbs torque

  • @russwabuda1556
    @russwabuda1556 Жыл бұрын

    i think you're right. i know this will take longer, but i would not use that crank either. time is the biggest element next to your conscience. would you use that tractor. would you sell that tractor. not with that crank. good for you. best wishes

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

    You or someone should put that engine or a similar one in a ranger or explorer, adapted to a T-5

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

    And a impact on rod bolts?? 😮

  • @bamadave6324
    @bamadave63247 ай бұрын

    I went thru the bolt stripping thing with a cheap chinese torque wrench. Ended up spendin $200 on a USA brand well worth it.

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah maybe I should check that 🤔

  • @sergueiothonucci1638
    @sergueiothonucci1638 Жыл бұрын

    💪

  • @dennislaws5187
    @dennislaws51874 ай бұрын

    You should wash a block after coming from machine shop before putting parts in it. plus cleaning out the galleries in the block, you left lots of grit and dirt in that block,

  • @karenkartz3163
    @karenkartz3163 Жыл бұрын

    Who ever did your sleeves didn't chamber the bores that's why you had so much trouble putting in your piston.

  • @motorhead4003
    @motorhead4003 Жыл бұрын

    Did you rebuild the water pump? or was it still good.

  • @zaneturner4478
    @zaneturner4478 Жыл бұрын

    You are supposed to install the side seals on the rear main cap before you install it in the block and there are pins that are super to be installed after you set the cap in and before you torque it. That crankshaft should have never been machined it was junk when it was pulled out . A good machine shop would have told you that instead of taking your money .

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    That makes sense. I really struggled with them. Thanks for the tip!!

  • @BeerWineandShine
    @BeerWineandShine5 ай бұрын

    What did you use to strip the paint off tractor

  • @sergijezagorac4281
    @sergijezagorac4281 Жыл бұрын

    you didn't check crankshaft thrust bearing clearance

  • @MrDeancoote
    @MrDeancoote10 ай бұрын

    Could you keep it naked un painted just sprayed with old oil and diesel ?

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    10 ай бұрын

    I like paint 🤣

  • @JamesJohnson-kw9gh
    @JamesJohnson-kw9gh Жыл бұрын

    Just what is the torque on the rod bolts it sure seemed you were pushing hard on those bolts and they shodnt be much more than 40 foot pounds .

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    50, it definitely seems like a lot haha

  • @leemontoya8028

    @leemontoya8028

    3 ай бұрын

    On my 86 ford 1510 it calls for 20 lbs for the connecting rod bolts!

  • @cristianomikos2515
    @cristianomikos25158 ай бұрын

    Tenho um Ford trator 600 .com motor adaptado do trator Ford 8 BR perkin d4203 . 8 BR é a linha 800 do EUA 4 marchas e reduzida .que entendi por ser tão parecida a mecânica

  • @eastpointer1304
    @eastpointer130410 ай бұрын

    Curious on why you had resleeved. I have 1957 800 gas it has sleeves. The 1958 and up gas and diesel engines do not have sleeves. I had mine bored oversize it was cheaper and easier than changing the sleeves. Was your block worn too much to rebore?

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    10 ай бұрын

    They don’t make oversized pistons for a diesel

  • @eastpointer1304

    @eastpointer1304

    10 ай бұрын

    That really sucks , maybe not as much demand as the gas not sure of the numbers but the diesels are a lot less common than the gas. They were supposed to be the cheapest priced diesels at the time. oversize pistons are usually the same casting just left bigger when they are turned to finish. That makes me think twice about buying one @@dieseJL

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    10 ай бұрын

    It’s honestly just as cheap as boring. Every rebuild kit you can buy includes sleeves. I think with block machine work and a rebuild kit i was in $1100

  • @zillobeast5257

    @zillobeast5257

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dieseJL im hoping you include total prices at the end of the series, best tractor restoration ive seen on youtube or tv so i guess best ive ever seen haha

  • @skycarp2002
    @skycarp2002 Жыл бұрын

    Invest in an engine stand.

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    I need one for 3406’s lol

  • @jtapper6109
    @jtapper61093 ай бұрын

    Is that a metric stump?

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

    This looks a bit like a A model engine,

  • @jimthomas1989
    @jimthomas1989 Жыл бұрын

    BUILT FROD TUFF ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  • @glennmoreland6457
    @glennmoreland6457 Жыл бұрын

    Did you clean that block yourself first before assembly...? Never assume it's clean from someone else's workshops... ☹🇬🇧

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    They tanked it and all. But you are right I assumed they did a good job 😶😶😶

  • @markg4233
    @markg4233 Жыл бұрын

    Amazed there is no surface rust for sitting around for months. Awesome job…

  • @garygudmunson6766
    @garygudmunson6766 Жыл бұрын

    If that motor goes away put f85 V8 in it

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    As long as it’s a diesel lol

  • @patrickswagger
    @patrickswagger Жыл бұрын

    DUDE ?

  • @slo3337
    @slo3337 Жыл бұрын

    There is a 4 letter warning that you neglected "Ford"

  • @Onemanstrash1
    @Onemanstrash1 Жыл бұрын

    no oil , yet rubber gloves....

  • @leemontoya8028
    @leemontoya80283 ай бұрын

    It's not a Motor! it's a Engine!

  • @tcmits3699
    @tcmits3699 Жыл бұрын

    Most important rule when assembling an engine, "NO CORDLESS IMPACT WRENCHES". You can't tell thread quality 😕 Please find a mechanical mentor. Don't give up 👍

  • @simonfazackerley8131
    @simonfazackerley8131 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so sorry mate but you should hang up your tools before you kill anymore engines. You don't have the skills or the common sense to stop when it feels wrong

  • @Ubermeisteryyy
    @Ubermeisteryyy Жыл бұрын

    It's a ford......... 😉

  • @dieseJL

    @dieseJL

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the poor man’s tractor, I can’t afford yellow and green lol

  • @natfunk5992
    @natfunk59926 ай бұрын

    First thing you should do is clean it again. Can't trust the machine shop.

  • @davidwebb7254
    @davidwebb7254 Жыл бұрын

    Just Saying had a machine shop ruin a complete motor overhaul by takeing to much off 1 rod cap! , werid part is should’ve trust that dude after he said thought never going to get cap inside sirfave round!. End result was after dropping over $500.00 in the motor! Throw that rod thru the block! ! Completely waste of money & time! The hood of that is that machine shop no longer in business! Out the money! No longer having enough money for new block ! End up saleing whole car for scrap! Shows there are people who say that know what they doing but don’t!!

  • @larrygould8246
    @larrygould8246 Жыл бұрын

    you should never be rebuilding a engine!

  • @TKM1951

    @TKM1951

    4 ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @leemontoya8028

    @leemontoya8028

    3 ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @andrewhorsburgh2549
    @andrewhorsburgh2549 Жыл бұрын

    Can't handle rubber gloves. 👎👎👎👎👎

  • @rexmasters1541
    @rexmasters1541 Жыл бұрын

    If someone slod the tractor then it was never abandoned in the first place.

  • @BiggusDickus2
    @BiggusDickus24 ай бұрын

    There's so much cringe in this video.

  • @stevenhanding554
    @stevenhanding554 Жыл бұрын

    Its kool that u do this stuff. I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up

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