2:07 - YES PLEASE. An up to date head to head comparison of rad performance would do wonders, especially with these modern components running hot.

@jamos169

Жыл бұрын

This! Please

@quantum5661

Жыл бұрын

on the topic, if this happens some small itx rads should also be included

@narwhal9852

Жыл бұрын

Probably a couple of degrees apart like they all are 😂

@rickysargulesh1053

Жыл бұрын

Please Jay. We need some performance comparisons. Xtremerigs did the best but stopped doing it years ago

@paskowitz

Жыл бұрын

All rads are within a few degrees of one another and the more rads you have, the less the difference becomes. HOWEVER... Watercool rads are just higher quality than anything else out there. The finish is more durable and more premium than EK/HWL/Corsair/Alphacool and even things like the stainless steel screws are a step up. So, it's not just performance to consider.

Watercool is the brand, Heatkiller is the product line. Great products.

@MakinComputers

Жыл бұрын

Sat here screaming at the TV "IT'S WATERCOOLING YOU BUFFOON!!!", it's a proper pet peeve of mine and if he's been an admirer of them for so long he should know that. My absolute favourite watercooling brand, total metal pron. 🤤 Also describing aquacomputer as a boutique brand is a joke. Been around a long long time, make a shed load of gear, make THE best fan controllers of all time, continue to innovate with stuff like the leakshield.

@varmastiko2908

Жыл бұрын

@@MakinComputers Watercool, not watercooling. Also 'boutique brand' means low volume high end products. Very fitting for Aquacomputer who indeed have high quality and low supply.

@MakinComputers

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@@varmastiko2908 god dam auto correct. 🙄 Aquacomputer is not a boutique brand at all. Their stuff is sold everywhere, just look at the number of different CPU block models they make, it's mental. Just because they don't churn out as much volume as ek, which have only recently emerged as the market leader, doesn't mean they automatically become boutique. Boutique would be proper limited run stuff like optimus

@POVwithRC

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​@@MakinComputers 🤓

@MrAsphyxious

Жыл бұрын

yikes. bit of a miss there.

FYI, you can purchase the Heatkiller Badge (little metal plate) separately, so even if you bend it you can replace it 🙂

@XenonArcher

Жыл бұрын

you can just take the white pieces off and swap them over. jay tried to flip the piece then put it back on the same side lol. if he put it on the other side it wouldve worked.

@KevinIrish

Жыл бұрын

​@@XenonArcher exactly what I was thinking. Hopefully Jay figured that out before grabbing the heat gun.

@claudetesh1265

Жыл бұрын

@@XenonArcherlipping the brackets would put the notches for the fittings on the wrong side wouldn’t it? It doesn’t seem to have notches on the other end. Also the over all dimensions are asymmetrical so you would have to tap new holes or cut about a half inch off the white sides after you flip it. He even mentioned this after he brought up the heat gun.

@sparkyenergia

Жыл бұрын

@@claudetesh1265 I think they mean, you take the left piece and put it on the right side. But I also don't think this would work because I think there was only one relief cut for the fitting on the decorative side panel so it can only be mounted one way.

@Macroproxy

Жыл бұрын

​@@XenonArcher This. I was cringing.

Nice to see some Heatkiller stuff on here. Given the fact that EK seems to be moving into the higher pricepoint, it is about time to show them what they're up against.

@DanielFrost79

Жыл бұрын

BUT, their quality is unmatched especially when it comes to a dedicated waterloop. (EKWB)

@monsterGLL

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielFrost79 Had two EK GPU blocks get a crack. Never happend with Heatkiller or phanteks.

@varmastiko2908

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielFrost79 Almost unmatched in negative customer reviews it would seem. They have a history of a lot of variation in quality.

@jakkiryanov9859

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielFrost79 Cant tell if trolling or not, EK quality pails in comparison to Heatkiller or Optimus lol

@AutodidactEngineer

Жыл бұрын

​@@DanielFrost79HardwareLabs is better

i realized that if you can take those side panels off you should be able to swap the sides. so if the fitting side is facing you swap the left and right side covers not spin them from front to back.

@FastSloth87

Жыл бұрын

The side without the fittings doesn't have the curved bit, but I don't think that would be an issue.

@benfowler2127

Жыл бұрын

I had the same thought, but 14:49

@jonnas1977

Жыл бұрын

@@benfowler2127 i know he tried just flipping them over. i was saying change the sides each one is on. so based in its current orientation in the video the front side panel on the rear side of the radiator and the rear side panel on the front side of the radiator.

@benfowler2127

Жыл бұрын

@@jonnas1977 Ah, I guess I didn’t realize he only flipped them end for end and not side to side. My bad.

@jonnas1977

Жыл бұрын

@@benfowler2127 all good.

You can get anodized aluminum washers for use with those types of countersunk screws on flat surfaces. They come in all different colors and can add a classy touch to your fasteners. Theyre commonly used in RC cars.

@Gnrnrvids

Жыл бұрын

yeah they would bling it up nicely.

@stephen1r2

Жыл бұрын

Was looking for this comment. I knew I could not be the only person screaming "Washers!" at the screen

@sixstar2067

Жыл бұрын

@@stephen1r2 Yeah I was shocked that Jay didn't seem to know about them. Even regular washers would work, just wouldn't look as clean.

@CodyDavey

Жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure it is intended to use rubber isolation washers for vibration reduction

@sixstar2067

Жыл бұрын

@@CodyDavey no reason one couldn't use both. Although if we are talking about intent, why then did the manufacturer not include rubber washers?

I'm really not into water cooling, but your enthusiasm carries it for me. It's interesting to hear a knowing person talk about something they are genuinely interested it 😊

Love the watercooling stuff from Jay, reason I started watching the channel and got into it myself. More please!

Love the watercooling content. Just made my first watercooled build thanks to all your helpful videos.

YES, pump out the water cooling videos please! I would also be interested in an retrospective history of water cooling from someone who has been doing it for 20 years. Currently working on older hardware builds and there is surprising little hands-on info out there to follow.

I love the watercooling content! You are the reason I was able to do my first custom loop last month!!

I just bought 3 of these for my first watercooling build because I loved their look, and was really impressed with their finish. And confident in the German engineering behind them and the other components from Watercool and Aquacomputer I got

Hello Jay, YES I like this type of content. A deeper look into materials is always interesting. Keep up the good work. Respect !

Always look forward to your custom water builds. Thanks, Jay!!

Jay, by far, my favorite water cooling enthusiast. I hope one day all the information he's provided to be used in my first custom water cooling venture.

good one Jay, really appreciate these detailed reviews of each component especially water cooling feautures. Look forward to the step by step assembly or your new build and

Hands down some of the best cooling stuff, love my MORA 420, it is pure quality and the performance is insane.

I used Aquacomputer parts for my first cooling loop and it’s amazing how well it is made and I basically never bought any other brand. I use the radiator, pump and reservoir up until this day and bought it in early 2009 with a GTX 295. Those were very interesting times for enthusiasts.

@jasonb9629

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man! I also try to use Aquacomputer products whenever possible in my builds. My current build has an Aquaero 6XT, 2 - Ultitube 150 reservoirs, 2 - D5 PWM Pump, 2 of their new Leakshield units, 2 - flow sensors, Farbwerx lighting controllers, and various other pieces like temp sensors etc

Wow you brought me back mentioning all those brands. I remember having an Aquacomputer Kryos Next w/ vision cpu block. mmm loved it. I'm an alphacool fanboy specifically cross flow rads. I havent used a conventional flow rad in years. Thanks for the vid!

What I love about o11e is how many stuff you can fit in there. I'm runing two 44mm 360 and one 44mm 280, and the back can probably fit a 120 too.

I'm using the Heatkiller pump/res in my new build. Full glass reservoir, which not only feels like good quality, but I believe it will last being non-reactive to dyes and such. Watercool (the brand that makes the Heatkiller line of products), seems to be very function first (they also make industrial-grade products), but I really like their form as well.

Good seeing you back dude. Keep up the good work J & Team!

i'm going to do my first custom cooling build later this year. I'd love to see some more informative watercooling videos like this!

I am not that familiar with watercooling stuff. If I was to make my next build right now, I would have went with EK stuff for watercooling but I am so glad to learn of this brand. I appreciate the exploration of all the different brands of watercooling. This really is a damn beautiful rad.

hey jay! i dont know if youll see this but in automotive debadging they use fishing line to peel off the badges, that might work with the radiator sticker

Appreciate this feature video of Watercool and their Heatkiller products. I'm using their reservoir, CPU and GPU cool as well as der monster radiator (MoRa). Great quality and cooling performance!

I have an Aphacool 360x60 white rad and it is a very nice finish. Not changed colour in the 2 years I had it so good paint finish imo and the heat transfer is adequate to my needs. The Alphacool screws are very good quality , have disassembled the pc 4 or 5 times and they still have great thread and cross , also a little small and at times only pinch one side to help grip but there are 16 of them so it stays in place.

7:55 what you call a tapered head, is also known more commonly as "countersunk" and more used for woodwork applications. 11:30 they need washers

@Thom101

Жыл бұрын

As a machinist we call them flat-head screws, inch are 82 degree countersink and metric are 90 degree. What Jay was calling flat-head can either be called button head or pan head depending on the shape. I normally work with socket head cap screws. And the countersink washers are very nice to have.

Love the Watercooling content, and the Build content.

Great fun video! Also loved the water block video!

It's nice to see you back on the camera Jay!

I've been looking at a bunch of the Heatkiller products lately and a lot of it seems REALLY nice.

Use some of those plastic washers (the ones used to protect mobo from CPU mount) for the radiator screws! They won't damage your case paint, and can provide some vibration isolation.

I have those radiators in my recent 7950x and 7900 xtx build, 1 360 and 1 480. They perform very well for me!

I used a Heat Killer Pro iv on my last build, they definety are worth a look at. In my area of Ontario our local store stocked them... I tried them, the performance is there.

Thanks Jay. I do enjoy this content.

That’s a nice rad. Yes more watercooling stuff! Performance comparison on rads would be great! Nobody has done one in years. Ek s came out on top, Igors lab did it.

@AlMustaqin

Жыл бұрын

My MoRa disagrees

Good to see you healthy and back on camera :)

This is why I’ve already used their Heatkiller 360-L Stainless Steel series for my build months ago!

Please keep up the water cooling videos! The water cooling and custom cases content is what sets you apart from the rest of the tech community

Glad you are back!

I’m enjoying the water cooling. Thank you!

Pretty much enjoying the water cooling content that don't involve clogging AiOs!

Omg heatkiller! ❤❤❤ thank you for looking at something not ek for once I've used cone shaped screws with both alphacool, hwlabs, and ek rads with multiple brands of fans with no problem, granted they had slightly larger heads. Nice thing is they look more flush

Nice to see back !!

The reason the fan holes are slotted is for ease of alignment/assembly. Also, I use washers to fix the issue of small screws and larger holes

I got the black version. Very reasonable and gorgeous

Nice although my last loop is all EK except for fittings I think I'll give Heatkiller a shot on the next one. I remember them from back in the day and they were expensive but I guess we have EK's high prices to thank for bringing down the price of their competition...

Would love to see more reviews of Watercool Heatkiller products. I think their waterblocks look awesome.

Good to see you making videos where it all started with your channel. Cooler Master seems to have some new radiators with a much more aggressive fin density (saw it on a Computex 2023 video). Would be of great value if you made a video comparing the benefits of radiator brands, material used, sizes, girth (that's what she said :D) and see who comes out on top.

I love the look and performance of the newer EK Quantum Surface radiators. I went with Two EK QS X480M radiators in my Corsair 1000D. You also have to remember that most of EK products are made in Europe rather than being outsourced to China, like the majority of water cooling companies do.

I also like Koolance liquid cooling parts. I have been using them for years, their build quality is really good. I have the housing for the D5 pump I have never had a problem with it. I always wanted to try one of their plate heat exchangers but I don't think they even make them anymore.

Always wanted to use Heatkiller stuff too. Had to go with a hardware labs black ice gts 240 X flow to fit a certain path need for the tubes in my build and man is it a great radiator for its size too

I am really enjoying your content @JayzTwoCents Glad to see you are mending well!

I just used EK's rads and took them apart to vinyl wrap the side pieces. So you can do that as well if paint isn't your thing. I used 3M ghost pearl.

I have two heatkiller waterblocks for my GPUS. One for my 2080super, and one for my 6800xt. Love them! Do more heatkiller products. They're beautiful

always love watching water cooling vids ! so yes pls.

This is great Jay!

Welcome back, Jay! Glad to see you're up and at'em (do people even still use that phrase??)

Used 4 of these for a client in a 1000D. They are amazing build quality. Love Watercool stuff if not sometimes frustrating because Germans

I just bought 2 of their _sort of_ square aluminum and glass D5 reservoirs... genuinely the best reservoirs I've ever seen.

Yes! its aquacomputer stil useing my aquastream(pump) which i bought 13 years ago! which is a modified Eheim pump but it stil works Great!

Jay on point, continue water cooling and product reviews. Also can you do a GLASS TUBE BUILD/ HOW TOO ,

And there I was this morning asking about your thoughts on Heatkiller cpu blocks.

14:50 thats exactly what i was thinking the whole time you were talking about heating the badge and putting it upside down lol

I have been using Watercool for years. I really like their quality and performance. Also its not as genaric as EK.

@PaPa-pi9fe

Жыл бұрын

Same

Watercool is a great company. I love the performance, quality and looks of their products. German watercooling products are nice. Aquatuning afaik is only a reseller. I visited their headquarters a few times to pick up parts. I would get some extra screws because I would be worried the rad getting loose from the vibration over time

I have a heatkiller res and MoRa3-420 fantastic stuff. I was a bit scared of the glass res but its way thicker than I expected, I expected the thickness of drink class, not nearly the 5mm it is.

The holes are there in the side of the shroud because they probably used to have a badge that was riveted on, but more recently went to one that uses adhesive instead.

I'd LOVE to see you taking a look into the Aqua Computer ecosystem. I can't build systems without the D5 Next, Octo etc. anymore.

Love the water cooling content - MOAR :D

Jay love the videos! A suggestion; look at the older megaman games an try to paint a floor or ceiling texture from a level onto the side plates of the bottom or top radiators. Just trying to help. Thank you and your crew for all your work and dedication.

Very cool vid. Yes do a vid on updated watercooling parts.

DUDE!!! Your teaser clips weren't kidding!!!I can't wait to see you completely geek out on a new iCUE Link custom water cooled build! All those temp sensors in every component will keep you experimenting for HOURS! And let's not forget all the new info SCREENS!

Wow a real OG company!

If you were to rotate the sides along the LONG axis of the radiator, ie right side to left and left side to right, the name plates will be right side up for your application

You are looking really healthy! Yay!!!! Also, nice looking rad!!!!

Very interested in the temps when you're done with this one, I'm running EKWBs old coolstream series right now since it was on clearance, but I really wanted either Nemesis line or heatkiller!

Hey Jay sick rads. Can't wait to attempt a custom loop in the future. If you wanted a potentially easier way to remove those Heatkiller stick on plack's look into a silicone hot plate. I used to use them to fix phones. They are handy for removing rear glass on phones as as well as helping to remove phone screen glass and tablet glass. If you heat up that metal sticker you could use two wooden skewers tohold the metal sticker down while you pull up on the bracket they are stuck to. This will keep you from prying the sticker itself, thus causing a bend. Good luck!

Nice rads! I've only used AlphaCool and EK in the past but I would consider these for sure. The small heads on the screws would worry me though!

Welcome back Jay

Jay, those are called "Countersunk" Screws. They are useful for maintaining a flush surface in both wood and metal, and they probably apply a different pressure profile than a flat head. I'd give them a shot.

@jonasa6713

Жыл бұрын

Williamake these are countersunk flat heads 😉 you are most likely thinking of pan head or button head screws 😊

The Fans holes being elliptical or slotted, there is a good chance they designed that so when you connect them and try to line them up with different brands of radiators and panels that you will be able to align the screws. When holes are perfect circles, it makes it difficult to account for other variables such as other brand radiator holes. And if you have 12 holes to worry about instead of 4 it becomes much more difficult when aligning. So the slotted/elliptical holes are for ease of use for the customer.

Have a 240 one in my Ghost S1 build. Tis a good product

In rc racing, guys love those screws because they can use anodized aluminum washers in various colors to accent their car. You could possibly do the same thing here. The washers work with flathead screws and convert it to a flat bottom if that makes sense.

Like the color design.

Jay, a lot of adhesives will release if you freeze them, and work perfectly fine when thawed. Try that before heating, if you haven't heated it already.

All I use is Watercool products. Have two 360 L stainless radiators in my case. You can buy just the badges, although it would be all the way from Germany. I buy all my stuff direct from them anyways here in the States.Second edit. I bought different M3 screws for my build as those just would not work well with anything. All other brands use M4, not sure why Watercool doesn't.

3:12 LMAO! "Mrreow!" Phil, you just keep being Phil.

i have 2 of these in my new build (3 months now) and i could easily remove the heatkiller icon with just my fingernails, they fit perfect into my white/silver build

Use floss to pull through under it Jay. It can work as a fine blade to detach tape.

Looks like a nice rad Jay!!! As Borat says...."Is Nice"!!!!

I'd use some of my massive collection of hardware to use slightly larger and longer screws, get a nice set of connectors (in silver and black) like mine, comes in real handy all the time.

my first custom watering cooling back in like 2001 or 2002 I used a heater core for a car as my radiator.

That looks so nice, I need to catch back up on your build videos. About the screws, is not possible to find longer ones that would fit and maybe a different screw head?

yes i had this prob with bequirt 3 screws heads to small to fit the lian li case

Hey dude! At NAPA auto parts they sell a radiator "comb" to straighten radiator fins out. Not all rads are equal and there's a variety of different sized combs. So bring your rad to get the right size. Computer radiators remind me of automatic transmission oil coolers, also at NAPA (and cheaper good for 100k mi too) NAPA also has some cool fittings, fasteners, even lights. All 12 volt too. Just sayin'.. Good ta have ya back, glad your ok.

Every time I watch Jay and co water stuff, I feel like I want to do it too. Then I remember the time and cost involved, and the price of messing it up. None of wich I have enough of, time, cash or able to recover from water damage.

I would love to see a custom Star Wars BD-1 PC Case/Build, possibly watercooled. You're the man that can do it, so I asked. Much Love

i have a heatkiller 250 tube(borosilicate glass) res. i love their quality, though for rads i have gone with Primochill for years.