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@cunning-stunt

11 ай бұрын

Vinegar stops cramp instantly. Can be in sauce, or mustard.

I got hungrY Just by reading the title

16 years ago (!!!) I did a solo 24 hour mountain bike race and mostly "ate" Perpetuem (a similar thing to Tailwind) and even thinking about that still gives me a kind of Proustian sense-memory but in a much much much less delicious way than a madeleine. Like the memory of it tastes like burning.

@JoshRoss

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly why it's good to always be swapping things around.

I had a doctor(relative) who told me mixing powder in warm water(like half way between hot tea & room temp) dissolves better than room temp. Then just let it cool down or put it in the refrigerator before you go out & it's all good.

First experiences with Endurance fuel were 5-6hr MTB races. Same, worked 100%. Was a struggle towards the end to pallet it.

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Did you also balance with real food at all?

haha i love your subtle song selection :D cant imagine how much time it takes to edit these. Love it as always!

I think I heard about them a little while back seems familiar at least, but when it comes to eating I’m the opposite. I love eating but I’m either starving or can go most-all day on little-no food( on going thing since I was 16. Turned 35 back in match. Had gotten super depressed between 16-17 which lead to at the time having the opposite effect on me vs other people. Some having the feeling of being a comfort eater but food wasn’t on my radar so now I have to force/remind myself to eat since it fluctuate thru out the day / week gets kind of annoying ).

I love balancing tail wind with normal food on my long efforts! Been using it for 3 years and still use it all the time.

your videos are a piece of art and so enjoyable to watch!! Do you cut them yourself?

I've recently started using the crazy science liquids and 100% agree on the stickiness, it's horrible. But for straight up fuelling it's phenomenal.

Just finished the Tuscany Trail (480km 7000m d+, 6 days with no rush) and the continuous eating of gels and bars was starting to feel disgusting even if alternating it with proper food. These powders look awesome, and your friend seems to have already dug this hole by the experience and tips he has.

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Josh 100% knows what he's talking about. He regularly does 200 mi days and swears by the endurance food balanced with actually chewing

Sounds like something I need for working throughout the day. Could even grow some cool little mushies in my bottle after

So cool seeing you ride in my back yard!! Long time fan from OC!!

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

At 08:29, JoshRoss is talkin' 'bout breas'milk, player.

@JoshRoss

Жыл бұрын

I mean... it seemed obvious to me...

Great and inspiring episode 🎉 What glasses are those (not the Jawbreakers), the casual ones? Thanks

I can’t believe I’ve finally seen somebody else say what I’ve been saying my whole life!!! If I NEVER had to eat a single thing again and never poop again that would be AMAZING.

I've been using Skratch's equivalent for about a year now. (was Superfuel, now SuperHighCarb) Haven't done rides without solid fuel, but for hard multihour rides, I find it works well for getting base amount of calories in, will mix it between 3-400 cal/bottle. Add in a couple bars or chews as needed. But yeah... finish a long ride and not be tired of eating, but not be hungry either. Its kinda odd, but nice.

Cool video! Seems like Doug also does a lot of liquids. Wonder if this is a contributing factor to the Higley Effect? How about a video about breathing techniques while riding? You and the adventure squad got any tips?

The biggest issue with these types of nutrition strategies is in hot weather. If you are a heavy sweater, the mixes don't have enough sodium in them to prevent cramps.

Crossing the calorie and liquid streams like the Bonkbusters!

That's how I fuel, i don't eat before and during efforts 🙂 but I always keep a plain water bottle to alternate and refill powder during the ride.

Best channel on the planet! Plus, the 15% discount!!!!👍

I sometimes use a "complete food" thing... it could not be called "fuel water", as the result of mixing the powder and water is somewhat dense... more like a shake or a smoothie. I like to use it on long rides towards the latter part. Start the ride with some solid food... but later, when I´m already a bit worn out, I quite often don´t feel like eating anymore, or don't want to get a "heavy stomach" while riding, but I know I should keep fueling... that's when the time for the magic drink comes...

Finished a 430km/5000m climb ultra endurance race in 22 hours a week ago, I would say 90% of my energy intake was liquid fuel (Vitargo with electrolytes). Didn't bonk at any point (but it was hard. Check out Jotunheimen Rundt in Norway).

@EverythingsBeenDone

11 ай бұрын

Congrats on this massive accomplishment!

I like to mix the science juice pretty strong in one bottle and have a second with water to wash it down. Works for 6-8 hours. After that real food or my digestive system es no bueno. 13:51

I’ve used the Skratch equivalent in races, super cool stuff when it’s hard to eat

Winston bonks???? The cutest bonk ever.

Nice timing was just looking into this. I think I would miss the physicals actions of eating. The sticky mess would be a detractor for me. Kind of picky about that. Thanks and take care, Al

All you really need on a bike ride is sugar and a bit of salt. Get a big bag of Maltodextrin put 60-80g of carbs into a bottle with a big of salt and you have the same fuel but much much cheaper than all this special nutrition stuff.

@Ego_Katana

Жыл бұрын

This! but I'd ad an electrolyte tab. Potassium helps me.

@Yoda-em5mt

7 ай бұрын

Yeh i just use raw caster sugar bit of salt if hot and half a electrolite tab per bottle per hour anywere from 80 grams up to 140 grams is the max that will mix and definately wash your bottle after your ride .

Love your Wilier bikes.

cramping on old germantown when you're almost home? classic move, glad to see I'm not the only one

I couldn't do just liquid "food", mainly because it's a psychological thing...gotta eat. I even quit using additives to my H2O because after a while, even on super long rides, my body says no more. I use plain water in my bottles and carry gels and bars and swap between those as I go. BTW He's right about failure to wash your bottles after using additives, major science projects with Alien vibes can be created...lol

Used BPN G1M Sport which is carbs and electrolytes for Keystone Gravel in 2022. Split it across two bottles and a third had a concentrate. It worked fantastically for the 8.5 hours I was on my bike.

I’m with you, just give me a pill, keep the food! Awesome video!!

Now they need to make a purple tuber version of this drank!

These days I put maltodextrin in whatever sports drink or soda I feel like drinking for the day. It's not crazy sweet, and it digests like a dream. OTOH it's sticky like crazy. I suspect that maltodextrin is the main ingredient in most of these endurance food replacement powders. It's cheaper to buy malto powder, and lets me do whatever I want with it.

I could never betray the ever-loyal PB&J sandwich. Cheap, easy source of carbs and protein. Also, shout out to Yellow Velo Gang 🤘

i have a lot of trouble getting myself to eat enough on long rides, tried that maurten stuff once. may have to give it another go.

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

You should def try one of these endurance foods. Perfect match for your scenario. If you do try it. I would love to hear how it goes for you.

How did you like that route? I'm looking for a fresh 100m route around Portland. Cheers!

I fast every day, one meal a day, have done for 3 years now, and I ride 100 miles COMPLETELY FASTED, with only water, never run out of energy because my body has become efficient at fat burning, it's awesome!

@tescalada

Жыл бұрын

The dame here, I have been fasting for 2 years and do all my rides fasted with water and salt. The longest ride was 100 miles, and felt very strong.

@EpicEvolution

Жыл бұрын

What about high intensity rides?

@tescalada

Жыл бұрын

@@EpicEvolution my high intensity training rides are 2 hours, in my case is not enoght time for depletion. I have even raced fasted and without eating and everything went great, even got into the podium.

@IsaacS1

Жыл бұрын

@@EpicEvolution High-intensity workouts are a little different, time to depletion of glycogen is faster if fasted, in which case I would break my fast with carbs before this happens

Man! I really, really want that shirt. Where can I get one?

Tailwind is the bomb, but I still take gels as a backup just in case I use 2.5 scoops per bottle, but I jam 1 bottle with all the powder

How to deal with the sticky bottles in the cage. Fidlock bottles. They are a game changer highly recommend!

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

This is a major move with 12 bikes plus a constant rotation of demos come through the door.

I've been using tailwind with the caffeine for about 2 years now. It gives me the farts but it's definitely extended my comfort on the bike. I still eat snacks hourly. I use strop waffles. Gummy bears, and fig bars.

Fueling while riding has been my most challenging part. This was really helpful!

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Carb mix in the bottles works so much better for me. I hate chewing food on the bike when I'm trying to breathe.

Great vid, I wish they made an energy drink or food drink without so much sugar. Great to see it works though, fair play!!🏁🏁🏁💪💪

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Funny they actauly done have that much sugar its more compounds then I understand. BUT it does work and it has a sweet taste...which is not over powering.

My stomach has never liked eating during long rides, and the SIS endurance mix is my go to for centuries. I’ve been doing this for years.

I rode the famous muddy Kansas gravel 100 race last weekend and struggled with food. I tried to eat a PB&J sandwich and each bite would just drop out of my mouth. I'm totally going to go powder in the future.

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

For big events like that. I really think endurance food is key!

Back in my triathlon days I could only use energy/carb mixes at the start of events. By the end I couldn't stomach them (literally) and would only consume water.

I’ve done this a few times, totally works, used tailwind, it’s awesome …. Refer to peaks challenge in Australia 230-240klms 4000-5000 meters of climbing THE ONLY DRAWBACK looooots of wee

Have you ever thought about visiting Iowa to ride RAGBRAI? We’d love to have you

One year during the Furnace Creek 508, there was a girl who rode a 12 hour stretch without any food. (She did finish...)

Durianrider has done it; 200 km on just plain refined sugar and water. Apparently this is all you need. I like to chew on something. Did a 185 mile gravel ride the other day on bananas and Snickers.

What are the glasses? And do they have prescription lenses?

Do you wear cycling glasses over prescription lenses? If so, can you recommend a company or pairs that work for you? I’ve tried contacts, but really have a hard time with them… I’d love to find something (that doesn’t look like a snowboard goggle) to wear over my daily glasses

This product is giving big Captain Raymond Holt "If it were feasible, my diet would consist entirely of flavorless beige smoothies containing all the nutrients required by the human animal" energy. 😊

Did you carb load before the rude a good stake breakfast

Hey, you've got the worm on that Wilier!

Dustin we need to talk about glasses prescription for cycling, got any video about that?

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

here you go: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4Fn1ZKLidGcnrA.html

Best content for cyclists!

Did you pee a lot with your experiment? My situation is after 150 miles, I can't intake solid or liquid food 😢

Living in rural eastern Oregon I rode a century round trip to fetch Taco Bell in the next town over, semi worth it😅

I don't eat before I ride and I usually don't eat unless I'm going far. Sometimes I forget to drink especially when it's cold out. I'm not normally that strong as a result but I can do 20-30 miles without eating anything.

You could try swapping out the microwaved coconut oil for MCT oil (which is also from coconut oil, but just contains the shorter molecules, so it's always liquid at room temperature)... No microwaving required! :-) (also very good when added to milk for flat whites ;-))

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

I want the taste of non-fractionated coconut oil. And the fact that it gets hard again from the cold milk that's the point of putting it in for me flavored crystals.

Was interesting. I’ve got a bag of Space food from Skratch that I’ve never tried. Now ya got me curious.

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Def try it! I think the move is to balance this with other food, Kind of extends your riding session for big days. OR just drank for shorter days ~2hrs

I’ve been using tailwind for years, just recently happened upon a new product that I started to combine with it to address the flavor fatigue you talked about (taterboost). It mixes with hot or cold water. Before I found that stuff I’d stick a baked potato in my jersey (baked in olive oil & sea salt).

Thanks

Were you riding on North Williams?

It sounded like you rode with Morty 😉 That would make you Rick.

@stevemiracle6554

9 ай бұрын

This ! Maybe the meter he spoke in ? It was fun.

Lifting bike woman needs to become a feature! 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 xxxx

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

"excuse me could you lift my bike up for me so I can ask you a question." 🤣

@allthingsbike.2574

Жыл бұрын

Or random woman guesses the weight for prizes!! #winwin "tell me about my bike" 🤣🤣 xx

What size is a "2XT"? I need a "Medium". Thanks

How big is one bottle of water 500, 800 or 1000mls?

What's a safe time laps between the end of a no solid food ride like you did and actual solid food?

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

No lag needed swap as you desire!

I don't know what the big deal is... I watched just watched you ride 100 miles and I didn't eat anything! lol

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

LMAO!! Love it

@grantwelch9255

Жыл бұрын

@@EverythingsBeenDone No dude, we love you!

You want something solid? Pack in a sandwich bag two slices of stout bread with honey ham, cream cheese, and fruit jam, cut into four squares. It'll cook in the jersey pocket and the flavors will be heavenly by about mile 40. The pieces won't fall apart in your hand, nor overload the digestive system. The honey and fruit jam goes right to work. The bread kicks 20 minutes later, and the ham and cream cheese in 45 minutes, just when you could use it. Snickers bars are available at gas stops in the middle of nowhere, just saying. A banana is an old kicker, too. And hey, there's also nothing like a cold, fizzy 16 oz. Coca Cola Classic if you're bonked near the end of a ride.

Josh still on a new bike and SIS like last time.

@JoshRoss

Жыл бұрын

Still have the Look though it's currently in transition.

Bonking is so bad, but routes are so brutal in my country you are destined to climb and burn as humanly possible ahha. I learnt the. Bad way how to manage nutrition.

Bold move putting 14 scoops in one bottle. I love the berry flavor. usually do 2 scoops + 1 packet LMNT (citrus or raspberry) in a large purist bottle. The salt balances nicely. I did a fasted ride once with home-made electrolytes but quadrupled the recipe in one bottle and let me tell you that was NOT the move. You gotta try this kinda thing once, right?

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Michael Love that you are down for the occasional experiment as well!

Zipp wheels on the Enve is a nice twist...

@JoshRoss

Жыл бұрын

Gotta swap things around all the time. I do love three enve wheels though.

I regularly do 100km and 100 mile rides fixed and single speed without eating anything. I'm carnivore and fat adapted negating the need for eating when riding the body just feeds off its stored fat. No gimmicks needed just a sound metabolism!

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

I dont have much back up storage on my bones. Stoked you can do this, kinda of mind blowing for me!

@markthomas741

Жыл бұрын

@@EverythingsBeenDone Anyone can do it, but the discipline initially is in keeping away from tempting tasty carbs. Once that is conquered however it becomes quite easy as the metabolism will be used to running on its own fat reserves.

You have good taste in music.

Thanks for the Love!

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

Yeah buddy!

Really interesting.. I'm wondering if the same amount of calories in gels would feel the same(?)

@JoshRoss

Жыл бұрын

It gets hard to eat gels real quick. If you can get them down though, they'll work.

i've done similar with a protein shake

state or city ?

So glad you brought up the "no waving back" behaviour. I wave at everybody, I'm trying to be a good bicycle ambassador. We can look like unapproachable aliens in our kit, gotta break down some barriers. If another cyclist doesn't wave back I yell "hey" at the top of my lungs. I realize some people are looking down at their cycling computer, but get your head outta your b**t and join the human race once in awhile dude.

I never knew Morty was a bike rider.

I've mixed maple syrup into my water and while its effective it gets gross quick

What are you using to hang all them bikes on your wall?

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

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WINSTON ❤❤❤ WINSTON FOR PRESIDENT

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

He says Hello

@bafasbl

Жыл бұрын

@@EverythingsBeenDone Miaow

Liquid food? That might explain why i'm almost the only person with a sandwich on a group ride 🤔

I have this same argument all the time. Food Vs supplements. “I’d be a great astronaut!” Is my main argument. As soon as they invent low gravity Bicycles 🤓

i'm definitely on Team Roast Sweet Potato With Lots Of Salt when it comes to food

@JoshRoss

Жыл бұрын

Awesome for shorter rides but when it gets long enough/hard enough that's too much fiber.

Terrain, guts, and space water. What more do you want?

give me a few pocket burritos over that sugar any day

I could not imagine trying to drink 7 scoops in a small bottle had to be syrup

@EverythingsBeenDone

Жыл бұрын

It was Potent to say the least

Tailwind rules.

Done it

That was an interesting and, as you said, "dangerous" experiment. No only because it might not fuel you as it is intended to do. But also because it could sit heavily in your gut and be difficult to digest. This kind of thing is just as bad as bonking. The body takes blood from everywhere and sends it to your stomach etc to help process the nutrients faster. Which goes the same for any food that you would eat, if it doesn't sit well. Then, with that reaction, you have the bonk effect in a different format. It will be a long and very slow ride again. So it would've been belter to use a much shorter ride to try that out first, just in case. So, although there are some pros to liquid fuel, there are some cons. Firstly and fundamentally, there is no diet that fits all. Josh has the right method. That is to vary your fuelling, sweet, savoury, solid, liquid etc. Another issue is that that kind of fuel can be "hypertonic" as oppose to "isotonic". So then it leeches water from the rest of your body. So then you're going to be thirsty. Therefore, it would be prudent to carry one water and one fuel bottle. Just as you anticipated it to be done. I don't know of any pro team that doesn't use that method, if they choose that kind of fuelling. However, they all never rely on only liquid either. They'll use a combination of liquid and solids. Lastly, because of the frequent and amounts of fuel that you're required to consume. It will be impossible to carry enough bottles to last that long. You already demonstrated that you would have to carry more powder and make stops along the way to replenish your bottles. So it speaks again for varying your diet to minimise the requirement for a large amount of that stuff. Bottom line is that unless you've got a team car along with you, to keep handing you bottle after bottle. Or perhaps a couple of friend at pre-arranged point along the way, to hand you more bottles. Then it simply isn't particle for us hobby/amateur riders to do it the way that's shown in the video. But I do love those recovery drink too. They're so delicious, that I could drink those even when I'm not recovering. If it wasn't for them being relatively expensive. But as always, the video is brilliantly edited with great music. As well as being informative, humorous and entertaining. You always knock it out of the park!

@KillingTimewithStyle

Жыл бұрын

Hell ya Neil! Thanks for dropping knowledge!