I recreated the Rings of Power with a vibrating square

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The title sequence from Lord of The Rings: The Rings Of Power looks a lot like Chladni figures (2D standing waves) so I tried to recreate it!
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  • @SteveMould
    @SteveMould Жыл бұрын

    3D standing waves next! I just have no idea how to do it. The sponsor is Jane Street. If you're interested in an internship, check them out: bit.ly/janestreet-stevemould

  • @LouisWongPhysics

    @LouisWongPhysics

    Жыл бұрын

    Just that kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZh-2qyLcdvKdrg.html

  • @khalilahd.

    @khalilahd.

    Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing!

  • @aaronhelmsman

    @aaronhelmsman

    Жыл бұрын

    Someone else made a flame square version of your flame tube. That's the only 3D one I've seen

  • @paulkanja

    @paulkanja

    Жыл бұрын

    What exactly do you mean by 3d standing waves? Unless you simulate them that is.

  • @krcmaric

    @krcmaric

    Жыл бұрын

    In a zero gravity environment, use a 3-dimensional shell which can be statically charged to attract particles in a way similar to if the shell had its own weak-gravity, and control the pressure inside of the shell with pneumatics or hydraulics set to a variable frequency?

  • @personzorz
    @personzorz Жыл бұрын

    It makes sense that a story set in the early days of the world of Tolkien would use standing vibration waves pushing matter around as a visual motif. The entire world was sung into existence...

  • @eekee6034

    @eekee6034

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh you're right, it was!

  • @centurymemes1208

    @centurymemes1208

    Жыл бұрын

    the music of the ainur

  • @bodaciouschad

    @bodaciouschad

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't tell if this is or isn't sarcasm.

  • @polblanes

    @polblanes

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not so sure 2nd age qualifies as "early days" of arda... It's closer to the time of LOTR than to the creation of the world.

  • @fiddlebender88

    @fiddlebender88

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, well it's nowhere near early days of Arda during the 2nd Age.

  • @WoWFREAK1336
    @WoWFREAK1336 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like there's an important possibility you missed here Steve, the patterns could have been generated on a stationary plate, destroyed by Chladni figure generating vibrations, and played in reverse. That's not to say the CGI possibility isn't also highly likely, but since it's basically brownian motion between the node lines and generating these patterns would be a pain in the a** by hand.

  • @scowell

    @scowell

    Жыл бұрын

    To me, that's obviously what's going on.

  • @Awesomekraken677

    @Awesomekraken677

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I completely understand what you just said

  • @jonathanwalther

    @jonathanwalther

    Жыл бұрын

    It's more than obvious, the RoP intro uses CGI (no problem with that). E.g. you can see it, when sand corns just disappear.

  • @hebl47

    @hebl47

    Жыл бұрын

    No need to do it by hand. Software like Houdini can do wonders when it comes to particles and flow simulation.

  • @loudeclercq

    @loudeclercq

    Жыл бұрын

    What about the end of it when grains are flowing in a circular pattern to the center of the figure ? Seems pretty cgi to me

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Жыл бұрын

    Even if it wasn't actually made with Chladni figures, the visual motif to look like them is such a cool and unique idea for a title sequence, and whoever brought up the idea deserves a raise.

  • @kiruthikpranav5047

    @kiruthikpranav5047

    Жыл бұрын

    but unfortunately, the tolkien world is busy hating on anything and everything to do with the show, so that won't be happening anytime soon

  • @daniel4647

    @daniel4647

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kiruthikpranav5047 Meh, that always happens with adapted things, they hated on the movies back in the day too, don't think it means that much. I really liked the show, particularly how they handled the various species. Especially the elves I think comes trough much better in this show than in the movies, dwarves and humans too. The whole hierarchy from most ethereal to least ethereal shines trough in everything from visuals to dialog to symbolism trough out the whole show, and I really liked that they put so much effort into keeping that consistent trough out even though it's not something that is very noticeable on the surface level. Really took the whole world building ideas Tolkien is known for to the next level. Unlike many other adaptations, this one along with Foundation are some of the best adaptations ever created in my opinion, despite what many fans and critics might say. Besides, I know of many fans that actually liked the series, they're just not crying about it on the internet all day. Jess of the Shire, a YT channel, seemed to mostly like it, and she's definitely a big fan, so it's not all negative, it's just that the media likes to amplify negative voices.

  • @_dx_dy
    @_dx_dy Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Chladni figures are a good visual example of electron fields. The way they interchange particles due to movement from an external force. Pretty neat!

  • @SteveMould

    @SteveMould

    Жыл бұрын

    They really are. Electron orbitals are like the harmonics of the quantum wave function of the electron.

  • @randomdosing7535

    @randomdosing7535

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmmm. Was thinking the same

  • @123890antonioj

    @123890antonioj

    Жыл бұрын

    Curve the flat surface into a sphere and you get even closer! Something something Legendre polynomials, I think

  • @petevenuti7355

    @petevenuti7355

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SteveMould I just came to the comments to say exactly this about orbitals! I would like to see this done in supercritical gas in boxes in 0g!

  • @markmillonas1896

    @markmillonas1896

    Жыл бұрын

    They are a nice visual representation of some of the MATHEMATICS of the solutions to the partial differential equations of physics. They are also - obviously - visual representations of what sand actually does in response to the surface of the plate. As a physicist I can tell you that the picture here only has a loose correspondence to some of the analogous mathematics that describes the quantum mechanical behavior of a electron subject to certain forces and boundary conditions. What is actually "going on", in as much as that question even means anything in the quantum mechanical context, is not very analogous. One example would be in quantum mechanics the nodes (places where the amplitude of wave function vanishes) are places where the electron ain't, not places where it would be especially likely to be found as with the case of the sand. Still, the different discrete "normal modes" that you see ARE analogous to the discrete states of quantum mechanical systems with certain boundary conditions. One of the most important examples of that are the discrete states (and the corresponding shapes of their normal functions) of electrons in atoms which ultimately is behind all of chemistry - the Ainur singing the world into existence indeed! Interestingly, even partial differential equations for physical systems that never behave in this interesting way - the diffusion of gas in a box is a simple example - also have a countably infinite discrete solutions like the one pictured in the video, but the real behavior is always superposition of many of these, and the behavior of the gas does what you expect it to do which is to spread out until it has the same density everywhere, so a lot more boring. But very similar math.

  • @grumpyrocker
    @grumpyrocker Жыл бұрын

    As well as some CGI, I wonder of Rings of Power is starting with the patterns they want, and then vibrating, then running the footage in reverse.

  • @EthanNZ

    @EthanNZ

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn you're smart.

  • @acutelilmint8035

    @acutelilmint8035

    Жыл бұрын

    Mmm most likely reverse sounds correct

  • @KeppyKep
    @KeppyKep Жыл бұрын

    That Gollum impersonation was amazing!

  • @theanomynusguy

    @theanomynusguy

    Жыл бұрын

    that will never get out of my head

  • @thePronto

    @thePronto

    Жыл бұрын

    "No it wasn't, it was crap!" Said in a Gollum voice...

  • @bumnuts69

    @bumnuts69

    Жыл бұрын

    British W

  • @axelvetter

    @axelvetter

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess your voice must sound like that when you sit on a cold Chladni plate.

  • @wbfaulk
    @wbfaulk Жыл бұрын

    The way you pinch the plate to force a node is used by guitarists (and probably some other stringed instrumentalists) as well. They will touch the string at a particular point to force a higher note out of the ringing string: often much higher, especially with electric guitars, which can more easily compensate for the lowered volume. (I guess technically they're really removing the lower-order harmonics and making the forced one the dominant frequency of the string.) These are actually often called "pinched harmonics" (although this usually refers to doing it by intentionally touching the string with your picking hand as part of the motion of picking). You can obviously hear this change in pitch as you're bowing your plate.

  • @SteveMould

    @SteveMould

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point! Perfect lower dimensional equivalent

  • @danibiyarslanov

    @danibiyarslanov

    Жыл бұрын

    Metal guitarists love this thing too much

  • @DonkoXI

    @DonkoXI

    Жыл бұрын

    We do this on the violin too. We press our index finger down and gently place our pinky up 1/4 of the string to get the harmonic 2 octaves up. By sliding up and down, we can play continuously this way (it's very difficult though, since the distance between your fingers is slightly different for every note). For an excellent example, check out the third song from Bartok's Romanian Folk Dances (arranged by Szekely for violin/piano)

  • @DonkoXI

    @DonkoXI

    Жыл бұрын

    This is the song I mentioned above kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4hlxNGtk7zInpc.html

  • @Torchedini

    @Torchedini

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DonkoXI It works the same for the pinch harmonics, which is why you would stick with a single tuning in guitar because you know everything changes.

  • @perfumedmanatee6235
    @perfumedmanatee6235 Жыл бұрын

    1 mode to rule them all

  • @gwyn.thomas
    @gwyn.thomas Жыл бұрын

    Love the gollum bit Steve 🤣

  • @thom1218
    @thom1218 Жыл бұрын

    3D standing wave (in air) is just sound, i.e. a tone that matches the resonant frequency of the cavity that contains it.

  • @rachaeld6491
    @rachaeld6491 Жыл бұрын

    2016 Steve made me feel like a genius when I saw the opening for Rings of Power. So glad to see you come back to it here in 2022 in light of the new intro! I don't have enough thumbs to like this video.

  • @iristhewitch_
    @iristhewitch_ Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen it mentioned (yet), but the Stormlight Archive series from Brandon Sanderson has some interplay with Chladni figures and the way the world works

  • @Dazbii

    @Dazbii

    Жыл бұрын

    I came to the comments here looking for the Stormlight Archives

  • @DH-xw6jp

    @DH-xw6jp

    Жыл бұрын

    I hear about that series everywhere i go. Does it really live up to the hype?

  • @iristhewitch_

    @iristhewitch_

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, I think so! I'd probably start with another series of his to see if you actually enjoy his work, but if you're not intimidated absolutely give Stormlight a go

  • @Milamberinx

    @Milamberinx

    Жыл бұрын

    These words are accepted.

  • @SirLightfire

    @SirLightfire

    9 ай бұрын

    I read Stormlight only just recently, and all I could think about was these two videos

  • @Vastafari34
    @Vastafari34 Жыл бұрын

    You are an exceptional educator Steve; I often think about how I will teach my students using your techniques.

  • @Lukionest
    @Lukionest Жыл бұрын

    You make a scarily convincing Gollum. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, but I had to say something about it. I enjoyed your revisit to the world of Chladni figures. I can't wait for you to take this to the next step - three dimensions.

  • @voidify3

    @voidify3

    11 ай бұрын

    But wouldn’t that require a 4th spatial dimension for the anti nodes to jiggle in? A standing wave on a string requires the 2nd dimension for the anti node sections to oscillate without affecting the position of the nodes, a cladin plate requires the 3rd dimension for the same reason. Since we can only observe and manipulate 3 spatial dimensions I don’t see how a 3d standing wave would work

  • @Lukionest

    @Lukionest

    11 ай бұрын

    @@voidify3 Steve's pinned comment was "3D standing waves next", so even though he didn't know how he would do it when he wrote that, at least he's considering it. Of course, that was 7 months ago, so maybe he has been stuck trying to figure out that pesky 4th dimension issue all this time.

  • @aiocafea

    @aiocafea

    8 ай бұрын

    @@voidify3i don't know anything about these things so correct all that is wrong bUt the 'dimension' doesn't have to be spatial, sound waves obviously travel through 3d space and the extra bit of information, the additional 'dimension' is local pressure in earthquakes you can also see different waves that can form, i think they are based on sideways displacement of the earth lots of things can propagate waves through 3d space, the trouble would obviously have to be whether any can be visualised in a small system for a 3d version, the first thing i'd think of is sound travelling through water sprinkled with some filings of a material of similar density, but i don't know if that would work

  • @sarahalex4057
    @sarahalex4057 Жыл бұрын

    Omg your Golem impression was incredible

  • @HM-pb9kd
    @HM-pb9kd Жыл бұрын

    This channel is seriously underrated. Beautiful explanation as always Steve !

  • @matthewkambic4939
    @matthewkambic4939 Жыл бұрын

    I can appreciate how much work each video takes, so I must be really exciting for you each time the video launches. Keep up the good work!

  • @brettbrn
    @brettbrn Жыл бұрын

    I've just watched the trailer of power of rings. For me it look, if they had drawn some of the patterns by hand first and then started the vibration to transition it to a real chladni pattern. Then just played the footage in reverse. so it looks, like this floral patterns created naturally. Make it look very mysterious. Good job explaining and a beautiful trailer remake, by the way.

  • @defenestrated23
    @defenestrated23 Жыл бұрын

    7:50 - oooohh! It just clicked how wind instruments actually work. By opening and closing ports, you are setting or removing boundary conditions at various lengths.

  • @dergus8833
    @dergus8833 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Steve, I found a weird effect. With some powders dissolved in water (for me it worked with Milo because I'm from Australia) if fill the cup about half way, and then stir in one direction and then stir the other way to stop the flow, then start tapping the side of the mug, the pitch goes up with ever tap. I have no idea why this happens

  • @bitequation314

    @bitequation314

    Жыл бұрын

    That's called the hot chocolate effect, and it happens even without the stirring in the opposite direction. As far as I'm aware the cause is unknown, but I'm not certain on that. EDIT: as voxtopass pointed out, Steve already has a video on this (it's probably where I first learned about it), including an explanation.

  • @personzorz

    @personzorz

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXymwdx_lLG9ZbQ.html

  • @jonnyr-w1681

    @jonnyr-w1681

    Жыл бұрын

    Steve has explained: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXymwdx_lLG9ZbQ.html

  • @voxtopass

    @voxtopass

    Жыл бұрын

    He's done a video on this already

  • @MachineOperatedBot

    @MachineOperatedBot

    Жыл бұрын

    it's probably cause some of the powder settles in the bottom of the mug, thus making the resonating part of it essentially smaller, producing a higher pitch

  • @thebobbrom7176
    @thebobbrom7176 Жыл бұрын

    I'll preface this by saying I haven't watched Rings of Power But I do find the idea that they used something like this as their intro actually quite interesting. One of the themes in Tolkien's work is essentially that God / Eru Ilúvatar who along with his Angels / Ainur sang the world into existence By showing something like this in the intro they could very well be showing a practical example of how something like that is possible. Music is just vibrations after all and this is using vibrations to create ordered structure out of chaos. You could even go so far to have it explain how a deity could influence the world sending vibrations that make it easier to settle in places that are in the pattern that it chooses.

  • @NoNameNoWhere

    @NoNameNoWhere

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen Rings of Power either. I tend to avoid fanfics. But I can appreciate the production value.

  • @DM_Interaction

    @DM_Interaction

    Жыл бұрын

    The video from the production company linked elsewhere in the comments all but confirms that this was why they chose to use this for the intro

  • @SpackJarrow94
    @SpackJarrow94 Жыл бұрын

    3:38 I think they could use high-tech CGI called reverse the tape. First form this Triskelion, then induce vibration to smear the sand. Reverse the tape and you have chaos sand forming a shape. Another explaination is using some putty under the plate to act as dampener?

  • @Aldo.flores

    @Aldo.flores

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, this is played backwards

  • @Nfscarbon07
    @Nfscarbon07 Жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how well you're able to describe things, I'm sure I've seen your other views explaining it, but going in I was expecting a 10 minute explanation why this works, but I completely understand after like a 2 minute explanation, same with all your other videos

  • @ScorpionXXXVII
    @ScorpionXXXVII Жыл бұрын

    Thought of your video the second I first saw the title sequence! Knew this was coming! Thanks for coming through!

  • @Ynook
    @Ynook Жыл бұрын

    That Smeagol impression killed me! You made my day, thank you! :D

  • @jameslong3845
    @jameslong3845 Жыл бұрын

    What I want to know is, is there a specific geometry of a plate and particle size such that the resonant frequency will match up with the sound of someone screaming, so we can create a chladni figure of someone's scream.

  • @klaesregis7487
    @klaesregis7487 Жыл бұрын

    Better than the show! but that doesn't take much thought. Love your content!

  • @kylanacus2407
    @kylanacus2407 Жыл бұрын

    so is it possible that vibrations in a 4th dimensional reality are creating all the 3D shapes we experience just like the the 2D plate forms the 1D lines?

  • @AlphaPhoenixChannel
    @AlphaPhoenixChannel Жыл бұрын

    This is awesome - I love seeing the "real" version of a clearly cg thing! that said, this title sequence got my brain going too. for years (probably since I saw your first video about these) I've wanted to build an arbitrary chaldni generator. here are a handful of ways you could do it, playing with boundary conditions, using multiple actuators, driving with more complex waveforms, or in the least-dynamic mode, modifying the sheet's springiness or mass locally, but regardless any of these requires a LOT of math... Since this would necessarily require a huge pile of simulation, I'm curious about your simulated patterns not lining up with the actual ones - did you glean any idea of why/how they failed to predict the nodal lines? My gut would say that the equation assumed the actuator in the center of the plate was the center of a tall antinode but based on your 1d strip example, that didn't entirely pan out?

  • @roderik1990

    @roderik1990

    Жыл бұрын

    I figure it is either the boundary conditions being slightly off, or perhaps the thickness/stiffness of the plate makes the model inaccurate?

  • @armstrong.r

    @armstrong.r

    Жыл бұрын

    The intro sequence is not "clearly cg" and was even confirmed to be practical.

  • @2BadgersBlue

    @2BadgersBlue

    Жыл бұрын

    @@armstrong.r I will have to check but I think the particles in the opening sequence move towards a point and then appear to vanish. That is a bit of a CG give away. Very good nonetheless.

  • @unvergebeneid

    @unvergebeneid

    Жыл бұрын

    @@2BadgersBlue that could be just some compositing magic but I agree that when I looked at it, it seemed to be at least partly CGI with very good reference shots.

  • @AlphaPhoenixChannel

    @AlphaPhoenixChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@armstrong.r the weird symmetries that Steve pointed out along with the more complicated shapes like the tree don’t feel very physical unless played backwards as others have said, and then the exact same style of particle starts doing the “flow” thing without evidence of an obvious driver like a magnet, so I assumed the whole thing was rendered. Where did you see it said practical? I’d love to know how it was done!

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn Жыл бұрын

    Love this we use a lot of RNA vibrating conveying systems at work using moving 'standing' waves to move parts with out rollers is a common thing in industry.

  • @Jamal_Muhoza
    @Jamal_Muhoza Жыл бұрын

    Therapist: Steve Sméagol isn’t real, he can’t hurt you. Steve: My Precious!!!

  • @jahrkh3518
    @jahrkh3518 Жыл бұрын

    I didn't see your first video back then, but here this one is: great, extraordinary, exceptional, outstanding, remarkable, ... Thank you for making educational videos like this fun and easy to understand. Have a nice day!

  • @khalilahd.
    @khalilahd. Жыл бұрын

    It’s insane how vibrations can do this! Science truly is magic ❤

  • @kapowbalw

    @kapowbalw

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not though. That's the point..

  • @KevinUchihaOG

    @KevinUchihaOG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kapowbalw dont be so literal, you know what she meant

  • @kapowbalw

    @kapowbalw

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KevinUchihaOG that's true.

  • @GeorgeOfAllTrades
    @GeorgeOfAllTrades Жыл бұрын

    Really cool! When I first saw the intro to the show I went back and rewatched your old video on Cladney figures - this one is certainly more cinematic :)

  • @ErikScott128
    @ErikScott128 Жыл бұрын

    This is actually a surprisingly good introduction to many of the topics you would see in a structural dynamics course. This is quite refreshing considering the overall quality of most edutainment-type stuff on KZread. Granted, you left out the derivation of those equations, but that's a graduate-level topic requiring a semester or more of study.

  • @MarcosProjects
    @MarcosProjects Жыл бұрын

    I had forgotten what these were called or that your channel was where I'd learned about them back in the day but I was hoping that one of my educational youtube subscriptions would tackle this and you did it better than I could've hoped for. And the Gollum bit, hahahaha! Thanks :)

  • @alphonsobutlakiv789
    @alphonsobutlakiv789 Жыл бұрын

    I recognize one of these resonance patterns, also in metal, stamped tin ceiling in my house. Crazy part it, house is surrounded on all sides by fright trains in the air. I'm wondering if it had vibration suppressing properties, only a few rooms still have it, but and oddly the plaster survived better in the rooms with the ceiling.

  • @andyjdhurley
    @andyjdhurley Жыл бұрын

    Love your sequence at the end - I too thought of your video when I saw it but assumed it was probably all GCI just inspired, especially when they did those 'trees'.

  • @Revia21
    @Revia21 Жыл бұрын

    Once again I am astonished about the thought and work put in this video, bravo! The first time I saw the title sequence I decided to use it as an example for my students. And a few weeks later you give us this perfect video, thank you this will make preparing the lesson so much easier. :)

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 Жыл бұрын

    Best bit of the entire show am I right? 🤣

  • @doktaahwho8858
    @doktaahwho8858 Жыл бұрын

    Wish you would of included the frequency used for each pattern. As regards to your circle pattern, I have found two. I need to find my notebook, will post the numbers when I find it

  • @vessygavrailova7419
    @vessygavrailova7419 Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this kind of practical explanation ever since the first episode - thank you!

  • @MaxLamdin
    @MaxLamdin Жыл бұрын

    i think the thing to remember with the title sequence is that there's no way to know if they're being shown in reverse or not, therefore they could be setting up a shape they want (such as the rotating spiral) and then vibrate the plate to have it break down and play it in reverse

  • @E_Rico
    @E_Rico Жыл бұрын

    I’m studying structural mechanics, and no one has explained to me what a boundary condition actually means better than this video…

  • @MaxJr82
    @MaxJr82 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! Thanks for promoting such nice view of science. I was just wondering what could happen if the dimension of the vibrating object was fractal, not an integer but something between 1 and 2, for instance. Maybe one way to test this would be a plate with a couple of holes of different size or having a fraction of the plate being made of a different material. Do you know if there is any study in this direction? Thanks again and success to your channel! I am already subscribed.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Жыл бұрын

    Oh, beautiful! Well done on the maths, the visuals, AND the Gollum impersonation! I loved it ALL! 👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏿👏🏼👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾👏🏻👏🏿👏🏽👏🏿👏🏼👏👏🏾 _~standing ovation~_ 👏🏾👏🏿👏🏼👏🏽👏🏿👏🏼👏👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏿👏🏻👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾

  • @2BadgersBlue
    @2BadgersBlue Жыл бұрын

    I thought of you Steve as soon as I saw the intro when I watched the show. Spent the first few minutes of the show wondering if those patterns were possible without a computer effect.

  • @oldvlognewtricks
    @oldvlognewtricks Жыл бұрын

    Any chance you’ll post the unedited time lapse of the different frequencies? It’s totally beautiful

  • @kyledesaulniers9277
    @kyledesaulniers9277 Жыл бұрын

    Can we all appreciate how Steve looks more and more fantastic as the years go by? Those are some genetics I'd bottle for the future.

  • @danielf3623
    @danielf3623 Жыл бұрын

    Wait till Stormlight Archives gets an adaption, they're going to have to cast Steve as Kabsal.

  • @Spoonishpls

    @Spoonishpls

    Жыл бұрын

    Steve gonna prove the Almighty is real, he's been practicing for years for this role

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis Жыл бұрын

    I hope you had fun with that cinematography. That's what it's all about

  • @BrianMelancon
    @BrianMelancon Жыл бұрын

    What if there are more than one fixed points (not constrained to the edge) and more than one vibrating points (not necessarily at the middle or edge) at more than one frequency. It seems like you could get an infinite number of patterns if you did that.

  • @dielaughing73

    @dielaughing73

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably, but the interference between vibrations would likely make it extremely complex indeed to control

  • @elekbuday81

    @elekbuday81

    Жыл бұрын

    There are indeed an infinite number of patterns - but the more complex the pattern, the higher the frequency you need to input. Fundamentally, what you're proposing changing the boundary conditions, which makes it an entirely different system - just like changing the shape of the plate would be.

  • @bryananderson688

    @bryananderson688

    Жыл бұрын

    This is very similar to the idea behind the Fourier Expansion, and Fourier Series, in mathematics. Essentially, any function can be described as an infinite sum of sinusoidal functions with proper coefficients. Taking the first several terms in the sum is a good approximation of the original function, and is sometimes easier to work with in calculus.

  • @thehearth8773
    @thehearth8773 Жыл бұрын

    You never experimented with different plate shapes with the vibration generator! I wonder if that one you were trying to recreate from Rings of Power might have been easier on an octagonal plate (or even octagrammal? Is that a word?). You'd also be able to get higher modes if you used a larger plate, since it would have lower resonant frequencies. I also wonder now about other boundary conditions--what if you forced the plate at multiple points, with different phase relations? Or even different frequencies (probably in simple rational ratios like 2:1 or 3:2)? I bet with a whole array of transducers around the edge of a plate, you might be able to use phased-array techniques to put all sorts of patterns on the interior...

  • @7ruthVVizard
    @7ruthVVizard Жыл бұрын

    Well done! Absolutely the best video recreating something from a video I have seen. I thought it was using Chadni plates the moment I saw it, so this was a real treat to watch.

  • @soranuareane
    @soranuareane Жыл бұрын

    You're throwing me back to the string theory course I watched, with von Neumann and Dirichlet boundary conditions. I used to know which was which.

  • @gmdille
    @gmdille Жыл бұрын

    One thing I'd be curious about is if particle size plays a role into what nodes are visible.

  • @piyushjaininventor

    @piyushjaininventor

    Жыл бұрын

    Theoretically it should not matter.

  • @davidsage6129
    @davidsage6129 Жыл бұрын

    Could you realise 3d standing waves using particles suspended in a liquid? You might need to eliminate buoyancy issues but could it work?

  • @DefnitelyNotFred

    @DefnitelyNotFred

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe with particles of the exact same density as the liquid?

  • @dugldoo

    @dugldoo

    Жыл бұрын

    Take a look at some of the KZread videos on acoustic levitation or acoustic suspension.

  • @Impatient_Ape
    @Impatient_Ape Жыл бұрын

    If it's a steel plate, then try putting some supermagnets underneath in some pattern -- with each attached to a steel bolt. It should slightly change the mechanical impedance in that region, allowing for more complicated patterns.

  • @pXnTilde
    @pXnTilde Жыл бұрын

    This video is more interesting than the whole show

  • @Taekwonjoe
    @Taekwonjoe Жыл бұрын

    Would attaching weights at various positions on the underside of the plate change the boundary conditions? Would that create different patterns or does it only work from the centre or edge of the plate?

  • @chrismanuel9768

    @chrismanuel9768

    Жыл бұрын

    That would probably work similarly to pinching more points and forcing more nodes

  • @antoinefdu
    @antoinefdu Жыл бұрын

    4:20 Ok but what would happen with a circular Chladni figure?

  • @JohnSegrave

    @JohnSegrave

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be a cymbal kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4x-q6tvYdfck8o.html

  • @literallycanadian
    @literallycanadian Жыл бұрын

    The greatest thing I love about the rings of power intro is how baddly it demolishes the compression algorithm especially just before the episode actually starts

  • @Koofumhead
    @Koofumhead Жыл бұрын

    I have next to no physics education. But this topic was fascinating! I'm so keen to see how this interacts with other principles. Or if we looked closer at the musical quality of the vibrations creating the patterns, maybe to find interesting correlation? Great stuff!!

  • @helioflores8679
    @helioflores8679 Жыл бұрын

    If rings of power was as good as Steve moulds video I would watch it. Keep up the great work Steve 👍

  • @twoheadedpanthr
    @twoheadedpanthr Жыл бұрын

    This would have been so much better for a Stormlight Archive series since this effect actually has plot significance.

  • @Nexus_545

    @Nexus_545

    Жыл бұрын

    The creator god of Middle Earth created music which made the world. Sound is incredibly relevant!

  • @ryansandwich1086
    @ryansandwich1086 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I definitely recognized the inteo scene from your video, and love that you made a follow up.

  • @Horinius
    @Horinius Жыл бұрын

    Wow, 2016 and 2022. Time flies. And you are still contributing to the scientific world. Really appreciate it 👍👍👍

  • @GyroGarrison
    @GyroGarrison Жыл бұрын

    Rings of Power is a spit in the face to Tolkien.

  • @jaspering88
    @jaspering88 Жыл бұрын

    Can you re-create the rest of the show now though, so that it's actually good?

  • @3zdayz
    @3zdayz Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if a circular disc would work for that one - vibrated from the center - or maybe that ends up limiting it to just concentric rings..

  • @inventgineer
    @inventgineer Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, as always, for the fun deep dive! 😊 your channel is such an absolute delight for the curious mind. I like to imagine small children stumbling across your videos and becoming inspired to pursue a life/career in pursuit of knowledge and become a major asset to their society like an engineer, physicist, etc.

  • @maykopanter
    @maykopanter Жыл бұрын

    ...of course you did.

  • @hazza2247

    @hazza2247

    Жыл бұрын

    this will become the top comment

  • @splagyetsi3287
    @splagyetsi3287 Жыл бұрын

    I loved the Steve Mould intro and backing music. Great way to end the video.

  • @tobygoodman9134
    @tobygoodman9134 Жыл бұрын

    I think more thought went into your video about the title sequence, that the whole script for season one of RoP. Amazing video dude.

  • @MyHouseOnTheMoon
    @MyHouseOnTheMoon Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely incredible! I was wondering about that! Thanks!

  • @chrismerrell7957
    @chrismerrell7957 Жыл бұрын

    When I first saw the intro I thought it might be resonant frequencies, but then I figured probably not because of the way the sand moves in those shots. If you watch carefully, in Rings of Power they kind of flow from one spot to the next, whereas in this video you can kind of see them bouncing around randomly until they land on a node. The real life example has a more chaotic feel than the Rings of Power intro.

  • @MayDawn519
    @MayDawn519 Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of resonate frequencies, my day-to-day vocal range (what I normally sound like while talking) happens to include the resonate frequencies of several plastics and woods so I often vibrate surfaces around me when I talk.

  • @divinenonbinary
    @divinenonbinary Жыл бұрын

    NO WAY I’ve been thinking about this like two weeks in a row and here you are explaining it omg

  • @strehlow
    @strehlow Жыл бұрын

    In the edge-driven setup, you are forcing an anti-node as well by where the bow is in contact with the plate.

  • @steubens7
    @steubens7 Жыл бұрын

    the cross sequence also looks like they just drew on the plate with the sand then modulated it to get it to diffuse, with the back and forth motion of the whole sequence it fits right in

  • @Trae4k
    @Trae4k Жыл бұрын

    Legit the first thing most of us thought of was you when we saw that intro. You are the best.

  • @TinyDoGO4444
    @TinyDoGO4444 Жыл бұрын

    I just rewatched your first video on this thanks for the update

  • @ninadsbhatt100
    @ninadsbhatt100 Жыл бұрын

    This is really awesome and the fact that you had done something like this is awesomer.

  • @jonathanwalther
    @jonathanwalther Жыл бұрын

    Steve! Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was thinking, when watching the RoP intro. Neat.

  • @panampace
    @panampace Жыл бұрын

    It took me 3 episodes to realize the intro sequence was a visualization of the song of creation, when the valar are singing in harmony with illuvatar until melkor slips in his dissonance

  • @powertomato
    @powertomato Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one seeing that intro and thought "Interference patterns"

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Жыл бұрын

    5:23 Desmos is such a good site love it.

  • @raegan_1018
    @raegan_1018 Жыл бұрын

    Super didn't expect this to come up in one of your videos but I really appreciate your homage to what Is, in my opinion, the best scene of the best character from Lord Of The Rings. Phenomenal

  • @jcskyknight2222
    @jcskyknight2222 Жыл бұрын

    Part of it might be where the material starts. For example if there was a “node” in the middle and no material inward of that “node” or between the “node” or the next “anti node” then surely it wouldn’t collect at the “node”. And then obviously each pattern shifts the material, so it may be possible to create a sequence of patterns that depend on the patterns that come before.

  • @waqarwiki682
    @waqarwiki682 Жыл бұрын

    I saw ROP intro for the first time at your video just popped up in my head like a jolt, and i wowwed

  • @Eeedlohunter
    @Eeedlohunter Жыл бұрын

    Love this video. Thanks for what you are doning Steve

  • @bwheatgw
    @bwheatgw Жыл бұрын

    How I imagine it: *someone in the studio planning the intro* "How do we make particles of gold dance or move on their own?" *2nd guy* "What about that old video on Chladni figures by Steve Mould..." *1st guy* "Mould... like the Mould effect?"

  • @josefaction6982
    @josefaction6982 Жыл бұрын

    Wow!!! That final sequence was amazing!!

  • @pauldolman7487
    @pauldolman7487 Жыл бұрын

    Makes me think you can use this concept to travel through space. Where the parts are not moving are the locations in space to travel to

  • @AsterSkotos24
    @AsterSkotos24 Жыл бұрын

    I can tell you had fun making this video, that makes me happy

  • @heartboy0
    @heartboy0 Жыл бұрын

    you can get non uniform patterns by using more than one speaker or resonance underneath with different frequencies. fun stuff to just run random music and see how it forms.

  • @delightful-ish
    @delightful-ish Жыл бұрын

    Every time that opening started I thought: I bet whoever made this is a Steve Mould viewer. Also, if any of it was practical effects or it was all rendered.

  • @OVTHeatmen
    @OVTHeatmen Жыл бұрын

    It's the best part of the séries so far

  • @agschwend
    @agschwend Жыл бұрын

    You made me remember how long I am following you. As always a fantastic video. Thank you for your work 🙏💖

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