That den of vipers author is definitely not going to heaven

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@abhainn35

11 ай бұрын

God is listening to the audio book and going, "Satan, get the lava chamber."

@lambss6349

11 ай бұрын

This made me laugh way too much-

@Froggycolouring

10 ай бұрын

@@abhainn35even satan is too scared of them

@AroAceEnbyCatLover

7 ай бұрын

Satan: Hey, I just wanted to say that I’m a huge fan

I wish mafia romance authors would give up on the whole “her father sold her to the mafia because she’s hot” thing. Can’t we have women who are getting kidnapped for ransom? For information? Because she’s a badass and they want to recruit her? Come on people, let’s get some variety up in here.

@mushy9674

11 ай бұрын

PREACH

@str3brry

11 ай бұрын

literally! the whole ‘sold to the mafia’ thing just sounds like wattpad ‘sold to one direction’ 💀

@muskanverma9301

10 ай бұрын

Read this one fanfic where the main lead was a smart computer hacker and the main mafia guy kidnaps her for that...and she's actually well developed..your comment reminded me of that lmao

@lvly_alia

10 ай бұрын

@@muskanverma9301whatss it calleddd

@Godofcats727

9 ай бұрын

​@@muskanverma9301 which fanfiction was it by the way ? I mean was it on Wattpad or AO3

I need a queer mafia romance where the both warring and single mob fathers need to get married instead of setting up their kids.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

I would read that

@crazygamer_1082

11 ай бұрын

I would also read that

@theproducers1967

11 ай бұрын

I, too, would read that

@aphrodite9556

11 ай бұрын

i’d read the fuck out of that

@GermaineSoumah

11 ай бұрын

Name?

I still can’t get over the den of vipers audio. Those accents were a CHOICE

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

It gets worse every time I hear it 😭😂

@KatieColson

11 ай бұрын

Omg I was absolutely cackling at that audio. I went back and watched it like five times, god that was good

@KatieColson

11 ай бұрын

👴👴👴👴👴👴

@user-pn1mo6jy2o

11 ай бұрын

Literally bit my arm two seconds in trying not to scream laugh

@nycoleleon713

11 ай бұрын

They were very much a choice and it’s a bad one

That Den of Vipers audio reading was literally terrifying

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

The man's accent will haunt me in my dreams forever

@sewerrat8096

11 ай бұрын

nothing could have prepared me for that experience

@user-dh6wh4qc2b

10 ай бұрын

FRFR 😰😰😰@@sarawithoutanH

@user-xx3nc1ws1p

6 ай бұрын

It gives me “Ello Spencah” flashbacks 😭

Every time I hear a protagonist has just turned 18, I assume she was much younger in the original script but the editor/publisher changed it.

@messiahofthefirst.3415

11 ай бұрын

YUP. As a 16yo girl honestly it's kind of atrocious the sheer (we're talking copious here, like, endless) amount of 15/16 yo romance books and fanfics are made, especially on like fanfiction sites. Why the hell are people attracted to children??! Like, I can barely drive myself and it eeks me so and knowing how it's such a normalized thing nowadays.. I guess the target audience is girls my age though, so like, less... predatory... But yikes. society has a problem it's gots to adress

@kitkatboard

11 ай бұрын

@@messiahofthefirst.3415 I guess a fair number of people who write about underage OC/reader insert are underage themselves so they're not mature enough to realize how wrong and not romantic it sounds. If anyone over 18 does write this kind of things tho... ☎🚓

@kiera6326

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@kitkatboardI turned 18 last week. You don’t magically gain perspective on your birthday. You’re still a teenager. You’re still going to see yourself in a 17yo protagonist

@bobtheball5384

10 ай бұрын

@@messiahofthefirst.3415 It wasn't too long that I was 16 (im 19 almost 20) and while I'm not a girl I really don't blame your feelings on this. It feels dehumanizing.

@bobtheball5384

10 ай бұрын

@@kiera6326 Also true- I think it'd be moreso concerning if it was like anyone in their late 20s and up. It's still fiction at the end of the day, but the sexualization of teenagers can be damaging ngl

Why are romance books never… romantic? I SO wish that in the second book you read they let her go and she just peaced out and never saw them again and lived a good life. That would’ve been hilarious.

@Maggie_mccann

11 ай бұрын

Yeah adult romance books are just smut, WHERE'S THE ROMANCE

@str3brry

11 ай бұрын

@@Maggie_mccannOMG YEAH like literally everything be turning sexual like they be having no chemistry other than being single, good looking, and horny

@paradoxtatorstudios9681

10 ай бұрын

@@str3brry the fact every character in these kinds of books have mutual lust and nothing more, i-

@billiep1603

10 ай бұрын

It’s literally just sex and abuse like every time

@TarisLuna

7 ай бұрын

I think those books should be categorized as erotica, rather than romance.

the premise of "den of vipers" is literally just a reshuffle of those "my mom sold me to one direction"-fanfics tell me i'm wrong, i dare you

@vielente

11 ай бұрын

Nono you're onto something

@fake_plant

10 ай бұрын

As much as I hate to pass up a dare, I can’t tell you you’re wrong because you aren’t.

As someone who's family has been affected and has witnessed the horror of gang violence, I will never understand why people insist on writing stories where they turn heinous criminals into sexy studs.

@theproducers1967

11 ай бұрын

Yeah. Like actual gangs and mafias are terrible, and terrifying to their victims, and the violence they incite are still issues that affect COUNTLESS people today. What is so romantic about a murderer???

@CookiehsAndDreams

11 ай бұрын

@@arieandfarrah9039 Of course! I definitely don't mean to say you can't write stories with the mafia in it; every story needs some kind of conflict. I've just always had a problem with authors trying to make these terrible people seem cool and hot.

@paradoxtatorstudios9681

10 ай бұрын

@@CookiehsAndDreams FR i will never understand people who think killers are hot, and i don't want to

@pexaltmixvobo2045

10 ай бұрын

It's because mafia = edgy and edgy = "different" and different = cool + not like other girls.

@cyanrose499

10 ай бұрын

It's so terrifying. Even where I come from, girls are glamorising the idea of dating men who are affiliated with gangs and there are plenty of stories where these girls end up brutally "un-alived". A lot of them are university students too so they end up getting "got" in their dorm rooms by these guys who just barge in and traumatize everyone. Worst part is that even when people know exactly who did it, there are long lines of women still begging to date these men just because of the luxury shopping trips that they post on their socials with their next "vic**ms". And no one gets arrested.

Den of vipers should not even be called a mafia story, there's nothing mafia about a criminal organisation consisting of 4 people doing illegal stuff. That's just a gang. A lot of these writers do not even know what a mafia is and it shows with how general they describe it.

@sarahmetcalfe50

5 ай бұрын

They'd be a pretty minor gang too. Which makes it worse as it just seems like barely disguised porn at that point, like just write the 5 way gangbang and don't add the crime stuff. you'll probably have the exact same target audience.

God I hated Mafia Mistress. The author has another pen name for historical romance and BOYYYY does the misogyny run deep. Lots of men who have mistresses, sleep around to hurt the main character (who instantly forgive them bcs she just can’t resist him!), and cheat. 🙄

@lpfun1494

11 ай бұрын

I really though Den of Vipers would be the one that would ick me out the most from the three books, but it was actually this one.

@mirnatius

11 ай бұрын

@@lpfun1494 I’m always side eyeing her books. 😶

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Yeah Den of Vipers is showy in how it's lame and bad but Mafia Mistress is more insidious

@sanskritiverma8010

11 ай бұрын

MIRNATIUS!!! ITS ME!!! PEACE OF GOD FROM GOODREADS!!!! OMG YOU HEREEEEE!!!?????

@mirnatius

11 ай бұрын

@@sanskritiverma8010 OMG SMALL WORLD!!! 🤗👋🏽🫶🏽💞

I am horrified. I miss the person I was before hearing about these books.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Reading them was a harrowing experience 💀😂

@Wurmss

11 ай бұрын

​@@sarawithoutanHAt least it wasn't Haunting Adeline ☹️

“Scribble down some smut on the back of a CVS receipt…” IM DYING 😂😂😂

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@TheGoofy1932

11 ай бұрын

To be fair, CVS receipts are long enough to contain a 📙. 😂

The voice is giving drunk sailor in a typical cartoon 😂😂

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Omg so true 😂

I read part of the Den of Vipers orgy scene because the woman sitting down in front of me on the bus was reading in on a Kindle with the screen at full brightness. I accidentally read a sentence and then couldn't look away because I was desperately trying to figure out what the fuck the mechanics of the scene were supposed to be

I used to love mafia romance in high school. Now that I’ve gotten over that phase, I’ll NEVER read another one of these again. I’m so sorry you had to go through this.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

I think I might be done with the genre 😅

@bluebyyoufu

4 ай бұрын

Why did you love mafia romance? What was it that made you love it? I am genuinely interested as well as curious if it mirrors my experience with bodice-rippers.

i'm really not picky when it comes to audiobook narrators but those accents in den of vipers would have sent me over the edge

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Literally my thirteenth reason

@lpfun1494

11 ай бұрын

@@sarawithoutanH I was not sure what I was expecting before you hit play but I was not expecting THAT

I love how Sara does not take ages to give an intro and just dives straight into how traumatised she is because of the horrible books. P.S Thank you Sara. You are doing a huge service to humanity by sacrificing your braincells so we don't lose ours.

@SirIsaac1313

11 ай бұрын

Fr! This is my first video I've watched from Sara but I'm definitely going to watch more because I'm SO sick of long intros, I was pleasantly surprised when she dove straight into the first book!

As a British person actually from London….what on Earth did I just hear? That is probably the furthest thing from sexy on this planet.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Lmao they really sounded like a man from a construction site going to the pub after work

Idk what you guys thought during Den of vipers but all I could think of was that it was WAY TOO MUCH like one of those fanfics from 2010 of a girl getting sold to one direction

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

omg hahaha

@tempehanna777

11 ай бұрын

That's EXACTLY what I thought! It reads like it was originally on wattpad

When I saw Den of Vipers my first thought was "oh lord, here we go..."

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

It's a doozy 😂

It shouldn't be so hard to find an age gap romance where it doesn't feel illegal or one character isn't a parent

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

it really is!!!

@merellammers2452

11 ай бұрын

Sinners anonymous is rlly good!

@kokomilky

9 ай бұрын

Heartless is also good.

@staytopia6406

8 ай бұрын

twisted games is good!

@Maialeen

8 ай бұрын

As soon as I hear "age gap", I'm disgusted. And the man is always the older one. I need these crusty old men to leave.

This is the kind of smut you read on wattpadd under the covers and then delete the entire app so your mom won't find out

I'm disappointed that Den Of Vipers didn't have an ACTUAL den of Vipers that eat the main characters-

@RikkiLove0317

10 ай бұрын

The good ending

The mafia romance genre makes me sad; it feels like a void of missed opportunities. You could get really interesting dynamics and themes about morality. But instead, it's filled with abuse disguised as kink.

I CANNOT believe that you suffered through 600+ pages of that viper book?! What a sacrifice!!

@katenakawai1864

11 ай бұрын

The people's princess

What you said regarding wanting someone submissive vs wanting to break someone into being submissive really hit with me. Damn. Put men in rice.

I’m sorry but the cover of brutal prince does NOT look like a mafia romance 😂😂

@notwithoutpizza4702

11 ай бұрын

It looks like some random Fae book

@anaphchan6783

5 ай бұрын

I recently finished that book and OMG! I would consider it a 7/10. It’s just some of the commentary was so cringey and some of the stuff in the book was so predictable 😂😂😂

So at this point it's probably safe to say that if a book gets recommended on TikTok, you absolutely do not wanna read this. Got it!

@Pandachu123

11 ай бұрын

Yup, agreed. Stay away from Booktok!🤣

@DucaDiPicche

9 ай бұрын

Well, booktook recommended Neon gods which isn't bad, in fact it surprised me.

I can't do motorcycle club or mafia smut because they take the alpha male trope to the next level where it is just abusive and toxic. I'm a guy and I read a lot of category romance (Harlequin/Mills & Boon) and the genre as a whole just seems really obsessed with virginal heroines no matter what their age. The Harlequin Presents line, in particular, goes hard (hehe) on this trope.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

You'd think a genre written mostly by women would be more progressive but I think the internalized misogyny is rampant

@lpfun1494

11 ай бұрын

@@sarawithoutanH Another one I've been seeing that is baffling to me in a genre written by women is the main male hero cheating on the female heroine and them still getting together.

@mittag983

10 ай бұрын

​@@lpfun1494Fr I mean I'm a lesbian so maybe that's why my perspective ist different but I would rather forgive murder than cheating if my gf would cheat she will wake up without her genitals 😂

@Maialeen

8 ай бұрын

@mittag983 No, it's not because you're a lesbian, jfc. This isn't normal, these women need therapy.

My thing is, mafia romance isn’t always necessarily bad, it’s just that many of these authors writing are SO STEREOTYPICAL. And romanizing gross toxic romance because of course the authors are ok with that. Especially with the weird age gaps, like what’s so hard with making characters near the same age or hell have older characters?

@madie8769

11 ай бұрын

okay this might be a bad rec bc i’ve been on a No Brain Books binge recently but the sins series by emma slate are mafia romances that have some refreshingly strong female leads and a good chunk of actual mafia intrigue, plus the spicy scenes aren’t like unrealistic or even particularly filthy imo. they’re definitely not Perfect, there are some references to “alpha males” that i don’t personally love and the plots are pretty predictable (especially later on in the series), but for easy reads they’re definitely Better than some other books i’ve suffered through recently

I don’t know what makes the second book worse. The fact that he had sex with her while the knife was in her and was repeatedly stabbing himself, or the fact I thought he had put the blade in her blade first like he was putting it in a sheath 😂😂😂

OMG the accents on that audio 😂😂 Im dying. Is he meant to be a 60 year old man who spends all day at the pub???

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Lmao right!

My mom named me Kenzo because that’s the perfume she wore when she was pregnant with me but now I don’t know how to feel about that

I feel like the "Romance YA female MC is so young" is because: 1. So that the targeted audience (most likely teens) feel like they could relate/project themselves and became more delusional than we already are lmao 2. So the MC making dumb decisions can be tolerated with "that's because they're so young!"

im genuinely so sorry you had to listen to that weird knife s*x scene with those audiobook narrators 💀

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

It was an experience for sure 😭😂

oh it was the knife HANDLE 😅

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Lmao yes I might not have been clear about that at first

@spacebuns34

11 ай бұрын

@@sarawithoutanH it was a bewildering minute but i'm ok 🥲👍

All these books are labeled mafia but don't actually do much with the mafia stuff, like there should be significantly more murder and government bribery

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

I agree!!!! I was looking for some serious organized crime

@ceciliamarinello7129

11 ай бұрын

As an Italian I'm shocked that authors thinks mafia is a "good idea" for the setting of a romance.

@ninar9664

10 ай бұрын

@@ceciliamarinello7129I don’t understand it either but I think it’s like man in power who would fight for their significant other? Still not something that should be romanticized

I write in my spare time and I like writing romances like these but in a more realistic way. The women in my stories are all older, experienced, and the abusive relationships are shown as what they are, abusive! As someone who has been in therapy for many years, I would recommend therapy for many of these people 😂

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

I love an older FMC!!

@karenwantsmanager

11 ай бұрын

​@@sarawithoutanHsorry for me being dumb but what is FMC?

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

@@karenwantsmanager female main character!

@karenwantsmanager

11 ай бұрын

@@sarawithoutanH ohhhh ty for explaining!

As an italian who lives in a town that's been completely ruined and will be forever scarred by mafia, this whole genre repels me, and the fact that some people don't find anything wrong with romanticizing mafia disgust me.

At the brutal prince section of the video and I legitimately gasped at how good you look. The outfit, the hair, the makeup EVERYTHING IS 10/10!! and a round of applause for the butterfly clips 👏

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

thank youuuu 😌💗🦋

I don’t understand these books. What is so hot about abuse? 💀 and Diesel’s voice made me SCREAM there’s no way 💀

Few things-- 1- you're very pretty. 2-Your delivery is SO FUNNY. 3- I like that you read these horrendous books so that I dont have to read them. MAKE MORE MAKE MORE VIDEOS!!!!!

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Thank you 💗 glad you enjoyed!!

Den of Vipers needs new narrators. It's supposed to be a sexy read, and the male narrator, in particular, made me want to crawl inside myself and hide. And I haven't even read or listened to this book, this is purely from the small clip she played. No way I'd make it through a whole audiobook of that.

Den of Vipers -- Mom sold me to 1D but make it mafia

Cannot believe you read smutty mafia romance and didn't read the 365 Days series lol but Den of Vipers sounded like it more than made up for it

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Omg I didn't even realize there were books for those movies 😂

The only good thing about den of vipers is the somewhat decent age of the MC. At least she's mid to late 20s. So... yay? 😬

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Agreed! Everything is consensual and age appropriate.. so bare minimum 😂

A random idea for any writers out there based on my inner kid’s brain: When I was younger, and first saw 50 shades of grey trailer in my TV (and since it was in another language, I didn’t understood shit and my imagination immediately went wild) I thought it was a story about; A guy and a woman from 2 mafias (one being super strong and the other slowly growing, but is a threat somehow to the first mafia) and they both are constantly fighting and etc. The girl’s dad recently passed away and now she was the head of the mafia, but, before that nobody knew her father had any daughter, that resulting the fact the other Mafia thought he still alive. So, the girl decides to flirt with the guy from the other mafia to take them down, so she hacks his phone number (since his security system is shit), she fakes a story of “oh I thought it was somebody else” and starts flirting with him, he gets a bit doubtful and doesn’t agree on meeting her in public, but he agrees to meet her in a masquerade (that was a way to hide his face), and now the rest is up to your imagination, if they fall in love, if he feels first and she feels harder, if she actually doesn’t care but her narrative makes her look like she do- (In my head, when I first saw the trailer, it super made sense).

@b30574

11 ай бұрын

omg i would totally read that?? someone needs to write this asap

@amandapanda5087

16 күн бұрын

I'd read the hell out of this

Not the audio clips 🤧🤧🤧 bruh those are painful. How did you make it thru without laughing 24/7?! Lol

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

I was sending Riley updates every other minute about how bad the book was 😂

I have had Den Of Vipers on Audible for months now, but ive been scared for months cause i saw that the length was 19 HOURS!!! But now im even more scared cause of the clips Sara just played

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Good luck 🫡😂

Girl, I will continue watching this video because you are hilarious but THE BUTTERFLIES ON THE HAIR? You ate.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

ty ty 🦋🦋🦋💗💗💗

Den of vipers was nightmare fuel wtf…. How do you put up with this!??? 💀😭😭

this vid reinforces my decission to never read mf mafia books 💀

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I think I'm done with them 😂

@lexa4160

11 ай бұрын

@@sarawithoutanH youre the strongest soldier for going through all of these for our entertainment tbh thank you 😭

Also, the worst scene I've read in a romance novel involved a Snickers bar in a place no candy bar should ever go.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Nooooooooooooo what book was this???

@Pandachu123

11 ай бұрын

EXCUSE ME WHAT???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@AlexandraUtschig

11 ай бұрын

@@sarawithoutanH it's called Life's a Witch by Skylar Andra. Besides that horrifying scene, the book was meh.

@SheaWebb_

24 күн бұрын

@@AlexandraUtschig ohhh I read that book. I haven't eaten a snickers bar since. Can't even look at one.

@Lemonne-

3 күн бұрын

WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK?????????

Den of Vipers was my first and only mafia romance. Diesel putting weapons in orifices is exactly what I thought happens in a mafia romance. 😅

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

I stopped taking TikTok recommendations after Haunting Adeline and I am SO glad I didn’t pick up Den of Vipers. The knife scene?! Oh god 😭 🤚🏼 Thank you for saving me time yet again.

You were right. I was NOT prepared for that audio from Den Of Vipers 😂👴

I will say that I actually do kinda like age gaps because the idea of two different people who are from different generations but still find a common ground together somehow is sweet to me (even from a platonic standpoint), but...18 is way too freaking young for an age gap romance. I'm okay if the youngest partner is mid-late twenties, but 18 in my mind is still a child. Any relationship with someone that young that isn't someone else around the same age as them comes across as incredibly creepy to me.

X-Ray tech here... Regarding the Den of Vipers scene with the knife. I really hope that knife had a flared base... Please don't ever put things up there that do not have a means of retrieval or a flared base. The anus is notorious for pulling things up deeper into your colon, especially if you pass a certain point. Anally inserting the handle of a knife is a really easy way to have a sharp blade cutting your rectum and sigmoid colon open. I get the need for fantasy and recording the frantic, passionate decisions that in hindsight are stupid --- but in the moment are just "hot". But like, please don't put things up your butt without a flared base. Abdominal surgery isn't fun. And yes - everyone in the ER, imaging suite, and OR will know who you are and what you did.

Serious comment here. As a person that enjoys a lot of problematic content in books and games, I had a lot of time to think and analyse why I enjoy certain things. I'm not into mafia smut and not that much into smut that much altogether, but I'm personally enjoying monster romances. Usually I see a lot healthier, self-aware and respectful relationships in monster and slasher romance that I do in genres that specifically target kinks that involve mafia etc. My theory of why women enjoy romance/smut that tends to contain abusive consists of two main points. Both of them are in correlation with the big part of those romances being women fantasizing. The first is that we, as women are usually very scared of being forced to participate in naughty activities. But a lot of us, against all judgement, are capable of finding something intriguing about it. Because it's forbidden. People might deny or say that it's horrible, but personally I just felt a lot easier and in control after admitting that sometimes horny side takes over and runs rampant through the abusive tropes. There's literally nothing bad about enjoying something like that as long as you're capable of distinguishing between the real world and the fantasy. Also, as long as you're not going into stuff like this out of subconscious desire to re-enable their trauma (which is also something that humans tend to do). The second aspect is that, despite things happening in these books, you have a pre-existing sense of control. Because you know that it's a fantasy and usually you know exactly how things will unravel even before you open the book. MC doesn't always end up happy, but usually the author is focused on her pleasure and this is kind of a selling point. All in all, I can't deny the internalised misogyny as a possible factor in all of this. Another thing is the MC usually being very young. I tend to think that the main reason for that is the fact that books like that are usually written for a horny youth that identifies with a horny MC that's kind of intrigued by the fact that a much older man might find them attractive and desirable. It's like being put on a pedestal by the men that a young woman might find more "interesting and intriguing" than her peers. The less creepy, but sadder thing is that women are conditioned to perceive our youth as the years of peak prettiness and prettiness tends to be the definition of beauty in our society. With that, as we get older, we tend to be afraid of getting thrown into the trash as our prettiness fades. I can understand the desperate wish of older women to feel young and adventurous again and satisfying this fantasy through reading books like these. I understand that because I'm turning 31 in September and I can't explain how useless and undeserving I felt suddenly after turning 30. Like half of the doors that have been open for me previously in my 20s suddenly got shut and sealed. Again, internalised misogyny runs free here and we have to work on ourselves, of course. But it's not all work and no play, we're allowed to let out frustrations and live through our fears with the literature, movies, music and games that let us explore the darkest corners of our humanity without actually dipping toes in abuse and self-destruction.

@cyanrose499

8 ай бұрын

I can't believe I read all that and you made such great points! There is the constant theme of youth, naivete, innocence and lack of power that I've realised these mafia books tend to not be able to balance. They portray a woman's submission and sensuality as only being desirable when she is powerless, incredibly young and naive. Instead of showcasing a different side of the tradionally masculine, dominant but also considerate and caring men to balance it out, we get given literal abusers and so much internalized misogyny from our own female MCs towards other women. Why can't these stories exist without bashing on sexually experienced women or women who fit into the stereotypical "pretty girl glam" categories. It's as if they use this "me vs them" mentality to justify the MC not having any positive female companionship in their lives and they are only allowed to be "taught" about their own sexuality through the men around them. Sorry for using so many quotation marks😅 I just find this fascinating.

the way i 3xpected WAY more from Brutal Prince... and had the SAME experience... i literally snoozed the whole time.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Yeah it was super boring!

The only book I recognized was den of vipers because of some of the scenes other reviewers have talked about 😱I thought it was a biker gang romance though 😂 The audio book is a masterpiece. I do like these videos because you read through books I'm a bit too squeamish to try myself. Watching you has made me realize I have really boring tastes. I also looked up what 650 pages would be and it's about 160,000 words! Thank you for that Mario reference. It was really needed for that last book. I don't blame you for not wanting to read further. 👴

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

I also have very boring tastes 😂 yet I scandalize myself again and again

I thought *reading* some of the sex scenes from Den of Vipers was rough but I would NOT be able to listen to them, and especially in those accents omg 😩

21:27 if I had to guess I’d say the women reading are supposed to project themselves into the story. So they are supposed to be the beautiful, irresistible young siren and the older man is supposed to be who 30-40 year old women find attractive.

the den of vipers audio had me in pieces. i wasn’t going to read it but for my own sake i HAVE to listen to the audiobook

Oh my god Sara how did you get through Den of Vipers with those voice actors? Just two little clips and I was cringing beyond belief, you're stronger than I am.😂😂😂 I'm so glad I'm out of my Mafia era because girl these books sound tragic

The Den of Vipers audio is giving Murdoc realness and im here for it honestly.

I don't know what is worst: the Thomas Shelby from Wallmart from the audiobook, the fact that somehow it's a canon event that ALL theses protagonist NEEDS to get kidnapped by some RIVAL MAFIA at some point, or the fact that this video made me want to go to the church when I'm a atheist (I'll be praying to the void to consume me fast), but the video and comment were amazing

The hairstyles in this video slapped

When i was in middle school i used to really like A/B/O. I got over it and in high school i changed upon a fic i liked in middle school and i could not go past the first few chapters. I don't understand how some people can casually get off of actual grape. Like dubious consent is one thing but when they're crying, yelling, screaming about how they don't want it and reading about how they feel like they need to escape, to run away or else they'll die or forever loose a part of themselves that makes them happy. It's so much.

The look today is *mwah*mwah* stunning

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

ty ty 😌💗

Den of Vipers made me realise Hell existence is not only justified but a necessity I feel like I'll never be able to associate myself with mankind

I've read den of vipers like two years ago and it still haunts me 💀

There’s this italian korean mafia show called Vincenzo the the main character, who’s a mafia lawyer and he’s breaks that typical toxic man stereotype. Like he’s such a gentleman and falls in love with another lawyer and they develop the healthiest relationship

@sarawithoutanH

3 ай бұрын

I've seen it! It's cute. Better than these books!

The Den of Vipers stabbing sex scene gave me such whiplash like I was in SHOCK

I had to stop den of vipers at the knife play scene because it literally had my stomach rolling 😂 I didn’t mind the other scenes but anything with blood and I’m gone. 💀

So brutal prince is basically “Romeo + Juliet” on edibles?

@ninar9664

10 ай бұрын

Romeo and Juliet but they don’t actually die and their parents want them to marry

I’m not sure if it’d count as age gap, but you might like Dark Olympus by Katie Robert. It’s a series of romantic/erotic retellings of classic Greek myths. Consent is a big deal throughout all the books, the sex scenes are very nicely written in my opinion, lots of diversity and body positivity, Robert’s version of Apollo is actually a decent human being who understands and respects women. I say it might be age gap-ish because in book one, Neon Gods, Hades is thirty-three and Persephone is a few months out from turning twenty-five. I really love these books, book five came out just this month and I’m waiting with bated breath for my library to get the audiobook so I can curl up on the sofa and happy stim while reading

I feel like as time goes on and the internet gets both more wild and more performative, and writers / content creators maybe feel pressured to get more extreme in what they put out in order to draw views / downloads, etc, a lot of people forget that unless a person is specifically into certain things, romance doesn't have to be gross, violent, etc to be sexy. It doesn't even necessarily have to be particularly crude to be erotic (how many straight / bi ladies would honestly turn their nose up at the arm thing Oscar Isaac did with Jessica Chastain on the red carpet?) It seems like a lot of writers just keep digging in one or two directions instead of thinking outside the box, if that makes sense. Sorry for the ramble, lol my sympathies for your mind after these!

@pixitchi

11 ай бұрын

totally agree with this - it actually ties quite deep & the same concept also goes for p*rn content. viewers get so desensitised to "vanilla" which turns into consuming more violent, obscene, or taboo content in order to get the same feeling :(

As an Italian if you called paparino a man you were having sex with I'm pretty sure they would throw up in your mouth because it's no sexy at all here it's like actually calling someone dad. It's also usually ironic nobody uses it seriously

im so excited for this!!!

PLEASE KEEP MAKING THESE VIDEOS. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM.

I don't know how long ago you made the thriller video I'm going to reference, but I just read Confessions by Kanae Minato and I loved it! One of the best thrillers I've ever read, so thank you for recommending it.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Yes! It's so good. Glad you loved it!

Omg I’m absolutely obsessed with the butterflies in your hair 😍 so pretty

I read a mafia romance when I was 14, and it was SO DIFFICULT to get through it, I finished it because I was hoping she would leave her at the end because well I think we are familiar with why. but she ended up with him and NOT only that BUT she also got pregnant, she was 20, TWENTY. As a girl back then and a woman, it made me feel so insecure and sad since then I stopped reading any hetero books even if not Mafia because the pattern seems to continue, where is a whole red CURTAIN but she was like he is hot now fertilize my eggs. thank you for reading my rant.

I’m obsessed with your butterfly hair look sis!!

unrelated to the books but omg girl i adore your hair in this video it’s gorgeous - like it’s shining so much it’s insane! and the clips in the brutal prince review? so cute!!

I actually adored Brutal Prince. It was one of my favorite books last year. 😅 It's too bad you didn't find one you liked.

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Lol to be fair that was the least offensive book in the bunch! It just wasn't my thing. But I know so many people love it! I really tried it as the one book I could maybe like

this series is keeping me alive!!

Happy I found your channel 🥰 Such good quality videos and you seem really sympathetic and relaxing to listen to!

im gonna hurt youtube. it took them way too long until they recommended this amazing channel to me

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

😂 glad you're here! Better late than never

I can't concentrate on the video because i love your hair do and the butterfly clips and it looks so beautiful i want to look like that

@sarawithoutanH

11 ай бұрын

Thank you! 🦋💗

So... those Den of Vipers guys are basically the Madagascar penguins

Found this channel on my TL while im sick in bed, desperately needed some unhinged content and bookish rants to feel better, so thank you!

The guy in that vipers book sounds like Murdoc Niccals. If I was listening to that he'd be all I could think, like no matter how much the characters were described I'd envision that green crusty British man

my fav genre of your videos!

Your work is greatly appreciated and enjoyed ❤😂

the scream i scrupmt when you played the audio. i wish there was a way to burn it out of my memory.

The name K.A. Knight seemed familiar. I looked on Goodreads and at some point I read her Fallen Gods series. I guess I liked it enough to read the whole series.

Oh my god when you played the accent clip from Den of Vipers literally all I could hear was the trolls from The Hobbit.