"Would you mind delivering the new couch to my living room? It's up the stairs and to the ana. No don't place it there, a little to the kata"

@michaelvee43

23 күн бұрын

Hah! Nice comment! 👍

@mxb2432

23 күн бұрын

Instructions unclear, couch is now lost in another dimension?! 😵‍💫

@michaelvee43

23 күн бұрын

@@mxb2432 ugh, you 3d being! You dropped my couch!

@Uni_974

23 күн бұрын

Intructions unclear‚ the couch was lost in 5D

@michaelvee43

23 күн бұрын

@@Uni_974 ugh, you regular being! You LOST my couch!

Now that there's 4D Golf, we could definitely use a 4D Tetris, then a 4D Doom, and perhaps a 4D Liminal Spaces type game...

@pgrobban

23 күн бұрын

I vaguely remember some 4D pong game from the Windows XP era

@bennyfrohna7675

22 күн бұрын

i wanna play a 4D racing game. somehow.

@joshorton9061

22 күн бұрын

Before we can have 4D Tetris we have to have 3D Tetris

@joshorton9061

22 күн бұрын

@@bennyfrohna76754D golf actually does have a "marble mode" where you move along the track on a timer instead of using golf rules. And it has multiplayer support as well

@X3MgamePlays

22 күн бұрын

@@joshorton9061 Plenty 3D tetris since the 80'ies. Personally, I would go for a 4D RTS game. Not the one with the time machine. But 4D spaces.

1:51 : in this game, aiui, Anth and Kanth are used for the extra cardinal directions (fitting with North, South, East, West, Up, Down), while ana and kata are used for directions relative to one’s facing, along with forward, backwards, left, right, up, and down.

i audibly said NO WAY when i saw the notification this game is so underrated and more people need to talk about it yessss

@anguscos4506

23 күн бұрын

I seen you somewhere before

@lyrimetacurl0

19 күн бұрын

I saw the development videos of it and hyperbolica but raised Tibees is the perfect person to play it 😁

I love that... journal? Looks absolutely awesome.

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

20 күн бұрын

It almost feels like a journal in the fourth dimension.

It's quite funny cause "ana and kata" is almost similar to "ano and kato" which in greek means up and down. So not only can't we visualise the forth dimension in a 3d space, the names themselves come from our undestanding of the three dimensions still!

@aureole6383

21 күн бұрын

hinton actually got ana and kata from ancient greek!

@lyrimetacurl0

19 күн бұрын

Haha, I thought ana and kata were Greek for up and down so what you said makes it seem like they ARE more different words 😂

@Milaaq302

18 күн бұрын

Since we're quite good at simulating three dimensions on a 2D plane... I do wonder if it might be easier to simulate four dimensions on a holographic display, or in VR...

@orbatos

18 күн бұрын

They literally are the Greek words

@Nitidus

6 күн бұрын

​@@Milaaq302 It would look exactly the same, only with us being enabled depth perception

13:18: The thing about not being able to 'truly' visualize a 4D object, is that it's also impossible to 'truly' visualize a 3D object. We only have 2D vision, and need to view a 3D object from multiple directions to form a mental idea of the what the object "is". We can do the same thing with 4D objects, i.e. view a hypercube from all directions in 4D space to build up a mental image. We're just projecting down 2 dimensions into our field of view rather than the usual 1. So it's just as possible to "see" a 4D object as it is to "see" a 3D object - one 2D projection at a time.

I honestly did love playing on complex looking playground equipment. I even remember imaging the halls of my elementary school as being a corridor in a spaceship. My school building, being the spaceship. All I had to do was imagine it, helped me get through a long school day

13:28 I feel like the only time I've been close to understanding the 4th dimension is staring at thoae rotating hypercube animations on Wikipedia for like 15 minutes at a time. And even then it's like I only understood that one shape and immediately forgot again once I stopped looking.

@danielhicks1824

14 күн бұрын

Relatable. Have done the same

I never thought I would see a game featured in one of Tibees Videos. Just to be clear I am not complaining just expressing surprise. I can see why she likes it so much!

Probably the easiest way to comprehend the fourth dimension is not by simply visualizing it in a one and done. I don't think that is how our minds work. We cannot comprehend it because it is like a photograph trying to visualize a youtube video. We can't really comprehend it directly but if we take snapshots of our reality we can piece it together so that it one part of it will be viewable.

@lyrimetacurl0

19 күн бұрын

You can imagine it by projecting it onto a 3D transparent view (such that you can see everything in the 3D volume). Then you can visualise all 10 degrees of freedom. 6 from the normal 3D, 3 that are 4D turnings that look like moving aling the 3 axes but loop around (same as in real life when you spin it looks similar to moving left and right but it loops), and a kind of zooming for the final dimension.

@mslabo102s2

16 күн бұрын

So replacing one temporal dimension for one spacial dimension.

5:38 You *can* project the 4D world onto a 3D screen in your game, and then render that screen as a 3D cube to your actual 2D screen. You have to use wireframe (otherwise some parts of the image obscure others), and busy scenes are nigh impossible to interpret, but it gives you a decent interpretation of what a 4D being would actually see (and satisfies a ton of oldschool vector graphics nostalgia).

@richardlionheart3965

23 күн бұрын

Elite in 4d !!

I really love the concept of higher dimensional games and I understood a lot of what you are explaining in your 4D videos, so this video is just perfect :)

We got 4D golf before GTA 6

@sevenstars004

18 күн бұрын

I think we'll have GTA9 before we have Elder Scrolls 6.

Imagine if this was an RPG. 4D world with 4D enemies and bosses.

@tinfoilhomer909

20 күн бұрын

someone made 4d minecraft too

Makes me think of the Miegakure game, which is also a 4D game

Nothing has made me understand the 4th dimension more than watching this game

@AmmoniaBlizzard

4 күн бұрын

I think my favorite part was before I got the game, watching people build up their understanding also helped me understand it too!

Any time Tibees branches into new genres, it's always a hit! The ASMR and Bob Ross vids are still some of my favorites!

Me : "Here's my painting 🖌️🎨😌" My Friend : "Where ?" Me : "It's there itself, go +5 Ana"

There was a simple 4D game in Linux many years ago and this is much more advanced

The things that I found really helpful when learning to understand (and fully birdie) the game were that volume view is a top-down view, meaning Ana and Kata movement is just another form of sideways; and that slopes will always preserve any momentum that isn't happening along its gradient (think about how a ball hit straight up a ramp will fall back down it, while a ball hit at an angle up the ramp will move back down, but also move sideways as much as it would without the ramp). Once I grasped that I found it much easier to conceptualize where to go next. At this point I just replay the courses trying to use different visualization modes to try to get a more complete intuition for the space.

Now I want 4D Super Mario.

@AmyFerguson

17 күн бұрын

I remember when Super Mario Galaxy came out and my very young son was playing it easily while it felt very topsy turvy to me. Like Charles Hinton, I wondered if it was shaping his brain to think in a different space than I was able to pick up on.

@pierfrancescopeperoni

17 күн бұрын

@@AmyFerguson Probably the game I enjoyed the most. Many games have a full 3D level design, but a curved level design was not trivial it would work. Sometimes in fact it was not very intuitive how to move the control stick.

@mslabo102s2

16 күн бұрын

Another dimension of platformer for a streamer DougDoug to be bad on (it's an in-joke that he keeps insisting on he's good at 2D platformers).

You could call this video: Mini Golf on Magic Mushrooms.

@Uni_974

23 күн бұрын

Speaking of mushroom 👁👁👁

@dylanmcdonald7128

23 күн бұрын

@@BigDuke-6 Ever heard of humour? People call me things often but I don’t take it to heart.

I now have a whole new appreciation for Picasso’s cubist paintings. He was painting in 4 D.

@la912

20 күн бұрын

🤯

There is an older 4d space game called Adanaxis. Not as good as the 4d golf but still kind of neat.

Ok, I watched this video and then I had to go to sleep because I was overloaded. I'll give it a shot again tomorrow. Thank you: you glorious genius. I appreciate your work in explaining higher dimensions to us less inclined folk.

Loved this. My brain hurts a little.

I’m in love with the note book in this video

oh this game is insane 🤯🤯 but honestly somehow made it easier to understand the 4th dimension, thanks for sharing !! 💗

Thank you for sharing. From my 4D world to yours.

That's insane I just wishlisted this a few hours ago and now you make a video about it!

I feel like 4D games should be played on 3D holograms, as your 2D screen is already simulating a dimension.

I've played on Jungle Gyms before. I did not learn 4D shapes from it.

@Uni_974

23 күн бұрын

That's because you didn't fall and hit your brain into kate‚ trust me you would understand 4D right way

The mezzanine is well worth the entire price of admission for this game. My favorite part.

You are an amazing interdimensional teacher, and somehow the glittering characters on each segment of the video give a 90's vibe to it! I love to listen to your lessons. Thanks!

Golf while losing all conception of where your friends are!

Nice ! Just a precision, 5th and 6th cardinal points are historically named "Zenith" and "Nadir" (from Arabic). These terms are officially in use for aeronautics, space navigation and of course Astronomical and satellite coordinates.

Found you years ago but it’s been a delight to see you on Jet Lag for a second time (though I’m Team Ben and Adam for life)

I will call my sculptures ‘4D paintings’ from now on, sounds so much cooler!

@Benoit-Pierre

23 күн бұрын

i am not sure this is accurate.

@Uni_974

23 күн бұрын

Why would you call 3D lines art 👁👁👁

@Wulfstrex

23 күн бұрын

If you make a CT scan or something like that of your sculptures, then perhaps yes

@ideallyyours

23 күн бұрын

All 3D sculptures are 4D if they persist through some period of time

@Wulfstrex

23 күн бұрын

@@ideallyyours No. Please no. We are talking about 4 spatial dimensions here.

One, this is amazing. Two, 4d creature per this game would be just as terrifying as I thought it would be as Im watching this game

I love this video. Great explanation of the 4th dimension. I have to get this game!

Programming a game in 4D would be quite the task!

this is actually a really cool concept for a video game, wishlisted!

now i want 4d elite dangerous, imagine those dogfights!

Woah!!! 4th dimensional space and the way it is presented in this game is a bit much to grasp, lol. Thank you for this insightful and informative video.

@Huntracony

23 күн бұрын

That's kinda the beauty of it though, when playing you'll get a feel for it anyway.

The only thing that I understand are the Greek words ana/kata (άνω/κάτω). But feels good to know that we still have lot to learn, keeps me positive that humans still can't destroy the world.

I love your walkthrough through the game! Your anecdotes about the fourth dimension are so interesting :)

Oh my god, I get it now. Mimes don't have invisible boxes, they're just boxes placed in the fourth dimension.

Brilliant video gives a lot of insight into the fourth dimension and the properties arising from adding dimensions

This is so interesting! I think a title like "Explaining the 4th Dimension, with 4D Golf!" might be better for the algorithm but honestly that might not be something you're interested in. Anyway, thanks for the interesting video!

A miniature golfer's fever nightmare . . . .

I love this game. I bought it the first hour it was released. Code Parade is awesome. I must say I play more intuitively than you do. I never analyzed it like this, I just kind of used my intuition, the same way I got a fully paid bursary for electronic engineering.

Excellent review. I am pleasantly surprised by your covering of a game, and even more so that the game looks so promising I am off to watch some of their development vids

Quite deligthful. Thanks❤♡

What a mind bender!

I love your journal! It's so cool!

Rudolf Steiner talks about after thinking a lot about 4d, that we begin to dream in 4d.

@Wulfstrex

23 күн бұрын

How interesting, I think that some of the reviews that the game got have mentioned this happening too.

And then there are also the other gamemode of marble mode as well as the level editor

Hey Toby nice video

These multi-dimension simulating games are so intriguing.

This reminds me of the Doom video I saw recently where they tried scaling the value of π. I wonder if the xyz space is parametrized in a 4th variable or how that engine is rendering the image on the screen. Also, how much inertia does that ball have when it hits a wall? If there's no gravity does the course absorb all of the force imparted by the ball in motion?

@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven

23 күн бұрын

Yeah, coordinates in this game use 4 variables: xyzw. As for how it's rendering, I'm no expert in computer graphics and from what I gather it's very complicated. The devlogs talk about it a bit. The course is fixed; when the ball hits a wall, it gets reflected back, just like in ordinary 3d minigolf games. There IS gravity, it's just that depending on what view you're looking at you can't always notice it. If you're looking up-down-north-south-east-west, you see gravity in the up-down direction; if you're in volume view, looking north-south-east-west-ana-kata, you don't notice any gravity because it's all in the up-down direction that's currently hidden from your view. The above being said, there is friction. As the ball rolls along the track it slows down. So in that sense, yes, the course absorbs the motion of the ball.

This is so cool. Thank you. Going to DL this and play around with it.

I love both channels

Loved this on Nebula ❤ P.S. good luck competing against the boys. 😄🏆

something Kirk and Spock would enjoy.

I have a headache now.

@paulalves966

15 күн бұрын

Most underrated comment in this section

I feel flabbergasted, but I love it :)

"Slices of a 4D Painting" sounds like a wicked album name

It's interesting that 4D golf can be visualized in 3D, because golf takes place on a 2D plane, at least when the course is small.

It was so cool when you first showed the volume view. Blew my mind

TOBY PLAYED 4D GOLF???

Looks nice. Thank you for showing. : )

I bet CodeParade will love it that you made an entire video about his 4D golf.

The 3D to 4D mind messing is lessened by the fairly 2D golf course, which makes it easier to understand imo. You see up/down as ana/kata. Omg the volume view is exactly what i was talking about that's great

directions unclear. im on Jupiter, was trying to go to cvs

@Uni_974

23 күн бұрын

The 4D being was actually trying to send you towards the sun‚ he just missed his shot.

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

20 күн бұрын

@@Uni_974 now imagining a 4-dimensional Toby playing with us the way regular Toby does with the 2D Creature.

Now wait for Mark Broadie to calculate Strokes Gained.

I bet it would be easier to visualize 4d (maybe even 5d) spaces using "3d goggles", where you could actually see a 4th dimensional displacement. (tho you'd have to overcome your automatic correlation of the expected overlapping view of your two eyes, or do something clever in the projections to take advantage of it)

I was okay with this game explanation until you mentioned that one can select which dimension you can hide - THAT is a step and beyond! 😃 VERY cool ☺️

As a fan of both Jet Lag: The Game and 4D Golf, this video is a wonderful surprise!

As someone who loves programming and maths, CodeParade is a huge inspiration. Sebastian Lague, tom7, Ben Eater and bitluni also do some fun and very technically impressive projects. And I know I'm forgetting at least one more.

1:39 within

makes me hope miegakure gets out one day

Thanks Tibees!

I hope you will get to cover these concepts again when the game Miegakure comes out. Yes, I'm still hopeful that it will at some point in time be released. Not sure if I'll be alive for it. XD

@awaredeshmukh3202

22 күн бұрын

Ahhhhh, Miegakure. Only been waiting for years and years...

Learning how to better visualize 4D space is why I have been waiting for Miegakure to come out. I'll have to tide myself over with this game until that comes out. (:

This is the golf of Truth. ❤

it’s not often I see the same person twice in the same day (but on different channels) in my sub feed. Furthermore this might be the first time it’s happened without crossover promotion built into the video. o7

How does gravity work in 4D?

@Benoit-Pierre

23 күн бұрын

I love the question ...

@skeleton8817

23 күн бұрын

There's still only one dimension with gravity, out of four, which means the ground is 3D

@Huntracony

23 күн бұрын

Locally, it just pulls in the down direction (that's why we call it 'down' after all). The ana/kata axis is unaffected by gravity, just like the north/south axis is unaffected by gravity, until you start involving slopes. More broadly (but also kind of a cheap answer), gravity equations work just as well with 4d vectors as they do with a 3d vectors.

@rennoc6478

21 күн бұрын

@@Huntraconywhat if we rephrase the question using newtons model of universal gravitation

There is also 4D Toys on steam. Not necessarily extra dimensional, but Antichamber, and Superliminal might be some games you would also enjoy.

My Brain hurts!

My head hurts.

This video literally made my brain hurt. 10/10

appears to correspond to intuition.

like in fringe series, going to another dimension on the same level as the one we know

For a precursor to this game a sandbox called 4dToys exists. It gives a brief explanation and a number of shapes with physics to play around with.

Charles Hinton was difficult to understand . He only ever made statements that approximated what he wanted to say.

I love your videos

genius, getting this game, nice one

Besides Tibees's, i also love the comments 😊. Thanks, Tibees 🐝🍀🍀FM

Exciting video