next, jazza tries Kintsugi (golden repair japanese process) to repair the broken morter and the rest of broken things in the studio 🤣

@annettefournier9655

4 ай бұрын

That is a beautiful technique ❤

@CrazyGamebino

3 ай бұрын

i remember seeing some kintsugi repaired bowl last year but never knew the process was japanese or its name

@actuallyfrankie

3 ай бұрын

Yo! He should!!!

@invisiblesteve9523

3 ай бұрын

I would love to see this 💖

@rebekahdery142

3 ай бұрын

Yes please!!! I would love to see that!!!

Fun fact, colored dyes like Royal Purple had particular smells to prove their authenticity. Basically it wasn't Royal Purple if it didn't smell like dead fish, which strangely made it more valuable. 8:06

@occheermommy

4 ай бұрын

That is an interesting fact. Kind of gross though.

@paulwoodford1984

4 ай бұрын

I wonder if this millionaire is still begging for money from poorer people

@stevestogsdill5791

4 ай бұрын

I've heard Mediterranean free divers would dive for a very particular little purple shell for making royal purple.

@stevestogsdill5791

4 ай бұрын

You can also dissolve egg shell in vinegar to get pure (and white) calcium

@-DailyDoseOfART-

4 ай бұрын

Purple was found in sea snails in lebanon

I love how he's surprised that wet dirt has the consistency of mud

@binoodle511

3 ай бұрын

Or that crushed rocks of lapis lazuli mixed with Lin seed oil has the consistency of wet sand, when sand is just ground up rocks

@lakipesic

2 ай бұрын

That's because he didn't do the research on how to extract the pigments from various elements in nature and how to use them properly😂 I understand that it takes a long time to do that, so I'll forgive him hahahahha

@Keditorian

Ай бұрын

i was surprised at this comment and then realised that wet dirt is legit mud. :(

Some pointers for pigments: 1. if you want to get them as fine as possible, there is no getting around ball-milling the powders. After you crush them as much as you can with a hammer, load them in a rock tumbler with steel balls and let it run for hours up to a few days, and you'll get very fine powders. Sometimes it goes faster if you add a little moisture, i.e. use damp powder to load the mill. 2. a much finer black is lamp black. Basically soot that you collect by placing a sheet of metal, glass etc above the flame of a wax candle or oil lamp. The very fine particles of carbon collect on the plate and can be scraped off periodically. This was used in antiquity too. 3. Pigments from beets, red cabbage etc. are anthocyanins. The color is sensitive to pH. For instance, red beet pignent is red only in acidic environments. In alkaline conditions the color changes drastically (for instance by adding a little sodium carbonate or hydroxide). You can get blues and greens this way. The downside is that they are really not lightfast and will fade rapidly when exposed to light, both in the red and in the blue/green form. 4. There were synthetic pigments used even in antiquity. Especially blues, because natural blue pigments were so scarce. Look up "Egyptian blue" for instance, the wikipedia article is quite good on the subject.

@itswadever

3 ай бұрын

The need for ball milling was the exact wall I ran into when I was experimenting. This video might just get me to go after it again.

@LisaBluestar83

3 ай бұрын

Im not sure I remember correctly but some Natural color do better as dye then oil color ( As in brighter) or is it just they need "Chemicals" to be brighter

@deimondrawsproductions

3 ай бұрын

this was actually rly interesting to read

@Im-building-stuff

3 ай бұрын

It's complicated try mixii water and the crushed powder and after a while the good stuff remain on the bottom the bad stuf remain in the water try this process 2 or 3 times and after that let the weat powder in the sun after the powder it's dried it's ready to be used, this whas used for generațion !

@comedynerd6669

2 ай бұрын

Also you need to be mindful of pigment size because if you overmill the lapis it will just be grey.

Don't forget, pigments from the past were refined over many generations and you've only dabbled. The fact that you were able to paint anything afterwards shows you were far more successful than you appeared to feel. The vibrant colours you showed from ancient cave paintings were using many years of experience; considering the amazing things I've seen you do on this channel, I'm confident that you could do this as well as you had hoped with just a few more dabbles

@vanillaicecream2385

3 ай бұрын

if we're going off cave paintings, as long as they stuck to the wall and looked halfway decent, jazza did a really good job all things considered

@SlenderWolf109

3 ай бұрын

And on the comparison to modern pigment he makes- modern pigment is made specifically for this purpose, ancient people had to work with what they had and work around the pigments' textures and clumping tendencies, and that took years and years, like you said. Going from modern pigment to older kinds probably created warped expectations and more rigid technique than they might have used. I wonder if playing with different media than linseed oil (even other kinds of oil) and spending more time grinding the powders down (maybe for some like the beetroot, baking, grinding, then baking and grinding again?) Would drastically change the results.

@mgeller854

3 ай бұрын

@@SlenderWolf109pretty much wanted to say that also there’s a bug in Mexico they grind to make dyes,other bugs or local products might have produced different pigments more or less easily

@highdefinition450

2 ай бұрын

yea i mean this isn't bad at all lol, we all are our harshest critics after all lmao

I'd love to see a part 2 where you get in touch with an expert in historical paint making. Learn all you can, and give this another go after being taught how to get good paint consistency from natural materials in historically accurate (non-factory refinery) ways.

@bambiraptor9

4 ай бұрын

This!!😊

@xxPenjoxx

3 ай бұрын

That's a fantastic suggestion 👌

@invisiblesteve9523

3 ай бұрын

Yess I'd be so down to watch this

@ThorStroliaDavis

3 ай бұрын

There is a guy who has done a really amazing job synthesizing historical paint hues who would be cool to contact as well. Ryan Demaree. He got some notice selling his paints on Ebay. I would bet he might have some useful insight if he is interested in doing something with Jazza

@erizamisorafujoshi7002

3 ай бұрын

This is an amazing idea! 😊😊😊

11:38 Fun fact: the reason why his blue color ended up less vibrant and grainy is because lapis lazuli is a metamorphic rock, which means that it’s compose of other other rocks (lazurite, calcite and pyrite). To get a better color one can get better quality lapis lazuli with less calcite and pyrite or just use lazurite, which is what gives lapis lazuli it’s color and also it’s much easy to pulverize because it’s much “softer” (lazurite being generally 5 on mohs scale, while lapis lazuli is generally 5.5).

@GeryNH

2 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

@rebekahgoss4985

Ай бұрын

Iraq is the country where lapis rock is from .

@chelsmeister

Ай бұрын

@@rebekahgoss4985 It is also from Chile!

@Ellie-hy4of

25 күн бұрын

Wow

Also I make a lot of pigments from flowers in our garden, it's fun to see what flowers produce different pigments. I figured out that if the flowers still have colour when dry, they often are a good pigment. You just soak any petals in water or ethanol to see if the pigments are soluble in either solvent. Once you find a good one like purple Pelargonium here in Aus, you just soak it for a couple hours, then evaporate down to a strong extract, add linseed, mull and have an epic fine paint. Using the raw material instead of an extract yields grainy textures, so I figured out the pigment extracts are the ideal way to do it. I've made almost full spectrum now from flowers, incredibly satisfying

@jlucas7745

2 ай бұрын

That is incredible!! (Unfortunately for me though, cause it’s winter time here so I have no flowers to try it on 😂.)🌷

Lapis is notorious for the amount of hours needed to refine the rocks into pigment

@marllram

3 ай бұрын

Indeed. I think the low saturation blue Jazza got is exactly how much the blue from the gem is mixed with grey of the rocks and dust that's part of the overall stone.

@pokelolmc6826

3 ай бұрын

Lapidary hobbyist here-meaning I cut, carve and polish rocks/gemstones. The blue pigment from lapis lazuli comes primarily from one specific mineral, called "lazurite". But lapis lazuli itself is actually a metamorphic rock-it contains a variety of minerals so it's never pure lazurite. The grey/white seen in the fragments he was smashing was probably calcite (which is what limestone is made of), and you can get golden specks of pyrite as well. Depending on where/how it forms, you can also get minor traces of other common minerals as well. It's an absolute hodgepodge. The most vibrant lapis lazuli would be very high in lazurite and less grey from the other minerals. I don't know much about how the pigment was created in ancient times, but maybe it could have an effect on how the minerals in the stone were processed. Idk. But the quality of the rock would ABSOLUTELY matter. The bag of crushed up chunks he already had were definitely lower-grade/pretty dull in colour compared to what the pigment actually uses. So there might've been no way to get the kind of vibrant blue you see in the typical lapis pigment, even if he put more effort into processing the stone. That stuff would most likely be high quality-the best, bluest lapis mostly comes from Pakistan and Afghanistan (which is most likely how the ancient Mediterranean nations got it through trade). So that's probably what proper lapis-blue pigment uses. Edit: I just looked up the process of making lapis pigment and WOW. It's definitely not just grinding it into a powder and mixing it with oil-which is what Jazza did. There are a ton of other steps that result in differing grades of paint. He basically barely scratched the surface of how you make it. That's why it came out looking so pale.

@CatfoodChronicles6737

20 күн бұрын

And for enchanting diamonds armour

That final piece was quite impressive even without knowing the efforts that went into making the pigments! Knowing the production process made it so much better! Definitely something we take for granted!

@arkhimsanitastupor

3 ай бұрын

It enriches the narrative.

As an archaeologist and an art historian in school, I really love this video! I’d love to see you do more! Or consult a historian to try to refine your process.

@plzletmebefrank

3 ай бұрын

Or chemist.

@shroomyshroom4524

3 ай бұрын

@@plzletmebefrankchemist?

@plzletmebefrank

3 ай бұрын

@@shroomyshroom4524 Yeah... For the refinement of the pigments.

@BelindaShort

3 ай бұрын

Have you watched 'how to make anything?' he's going through the stone age through modern time

@brissygirl4997

2 ай бұрын

​@@BelindaShort how to make everything is a good channel. I don't know if they're back up and running after their building was burned down.

I actually really loved the small history bits you gave us, I would love to see more like this from you in the future wherever possible!

For a better black, you can make "lamp black" You just hold something like a plate over a sooty flame, like a big smoky candle flame and the soot sticks to the plate. The soot is already a fine powder, so its ready to go, and the powder is super fine. In the past I tried to make ink using crushed charcoal and it was unusably terrible, so I looked into how it was actually done, and the answer is soot!

@ima.ekenes

4 ай бұрын

This is one of the ways they make the japanese ink sticks, burning hundreds of oil lamps and harvestun soot. So fascinating!

@CaptainTwitchy

4 ай бұрын

@@ima.ekenesstrangely I watched about an hour long video of that exact process on here. It was very cool.

@Buzzzy-bee

3 ай бұрын

@@CaptainTwitchysame lol

The book "Colour" by Victoria Finlay is an fantastic exploration of how colours were created historically. Well worth reading.

@leahgroess5361

4 ай бұрын

Second the recommendation.

@DaleTrevors

4 ай бұрын

Thanks I enjoy finding unexpected recommendations that I find interesting!

@ellac89

4 ай бұрын

its literally sitting right next to me as I watched this video. Just made it to "the pencil wars" and im fascinated

@cnd140

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking this exactly. The Indian yellow is a myth as the mango leaf diet would have killed the cows.

@roswithaprochazka912

4 ай бұрын

Came here to say that!

I just bought a book called maybe titled “the secret lives of color” from a gift shop and I’ve been reading it. It explores every pigment and the history and uses. It’s absolutely fascinating! I’m only in the white section rn but it’s fastinating how she talks about how obsessed people have been with finding a “pure” white and how a lot of whites are just very light colors

@alexspies-pronouncedspeez

3 ай бұрын

haha i have a book called the secret language of color. its quite a fun read. lots of vibrant images.

@metalrainbow2728

3 ай бұрын

This sounds really interesting! Very much my type of read! I'm going to see if I can find it, or a similar book online! Thanks for sharing! :)

I dabbled with natural organic pigments with dyeing organic clothes. You can also change the colour of pigments by using bicarbonate soda or vinegar, changing the ph level will get different colours like blue, green and purple, etc. Blue is a good one especially if you don’t have an indigo plant or you don’t have a local crystal shop or if you despise to go in one. If you grow vibrant red roses, you’ll get a pretty magenta colour. ‼️I also like to say when grinding crystals to dust wear a respirator because breathing in the dust can be toxic.‼️

PLEASE come back to this in a few years and do a video on how each of the pigments lasted over time!

@bambiraptor9

4 ай бұрын

I'm curious to see this too!

@erizamisorafujoshi7002

3 ай бұрын

😮😮😮 that would be absolutely awesome

@MimiKandsomerandomnumbers

3 ай бұрын

Charcoal should be unchanged, maybe some organic matter in the dirt would decay and make it less vibrant.The turmeric though, it's not a pigment we use in fine art, as it's organic matter it shouldn't be lightfast

@SabethRavenwing

3 ай бұрын

As someone who has dyed fabric with turmeric I can tell you it will fade fast, UV light will bleach it out quite quickly. IDK if the linseed oil will help or hinder. I did a linen sun dress near two years ago it started out close to orange and it is now a soft off white. Kind of nice having it a different color every time I wore it, and when I wore it in bright sun you could see it fade over the day with there being light spots were the sun hit. Pretty for clothes not a good thing for paint

@GhostyG33k

3 ай бұрын

Yes‼️💯‼️ I was wondering that myself, how long could it last?

I'm so excited for when he eventually starts doing elaborate traditional illumination or makes an entire cathedral's worth of stained glass windows by hand. Seems like a perfectly in-character escalation.

@MTGeomancer

4 ай бұрын

That brings up an interesting idea. Jazza has experimented with numerous mediums, but has he ever done stained glass? I don't recall ever seeing a video on it.

@laurenboborren

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 tell me you've been a fan for a very long time without telling me 😂😂😂

@Minty1337

4 ай бұрын

@@MTGeomancer for some reason i had deja vu of him doing glass blowing, but i must be thinking of someone else on youtube glass blowing in general would certainly be fun to watch jazza do

@a_random_confused_person7703

4 ай бұрын

@@Minty1337 Jazza did do a glass-blowing video just 3 months ago.

@Minty1337

4 ай бұрын

@@a_random_confused_person7703 it wasn't deja vu, i knew it! lol specifically doing stained glass would still be pretty cool though

It's genuinely one of the best feelings checking out Jazza's channel after YEARS of not browsing it and seeing how he still pushes out fun and creative content whilst still remaining as genuine, encouraging and positive as he's always been! I believe he's on the top best yt artists, knowing that his content is aimed at a fairly young audience (while still somehow remaining fun for any age really, which is so impressive to me) the fact that he encourages creativity and self-expression with such a healthy mindset is so nice to me. I remember watching his content way back when I was in middle school and wanted to be more serious at art so I kind of took his videos as inspiration! And despite his art style not being quite my cup of tea I find that the genuinity and great quality of his videos are really what makes me so fond of them

@_.CCelestia._

10 күн бұрын

I JUST HAD THIS EXACT REACTION 😭😭😭 im so happy that he still does creative videos

That painting at the end is absolutely gorgeous! I love the minimalist/monochromatic look you ended up with. The textures of the grainy paints add a lot of visual intrigue. It just looks so natural, reminiscent of woods and rawhide. I'd buy it.

So. Beetroot can be used to make a dye. And since it's a die, you can make a lake pigment (from memory it has terrible lightfastness). A lake pigment is a pigment made by dyeing a material such as chalk and then grounding up the dyed chalk to make the pigment. Also: No not all paints are synthesised now. All the natural earth pigments. Such as Ochres, Siennas, and Umbers are made from... dirt. Additionally, Michael Harding Lapis Lazuli is according to the website: "Inorganic, natural earth-This is the purest and oldest form of the Lapis Lazuli pigment, a genuine earth from Afghanistan." So no it isn't synthetic (supposedly). Synthetic lapis lazuli is called Ultramarine blue.

@claireobrien4130

4 ай бұрын

Love this addition I definitely think there is a world of natural dyes/pigments that is not conveyed in depth in this video @trejayne does some beautiful videos on natural inks

@syysky

4 ай бұрын

Jazza making lake pigments would be a fun video. I've seen people use alum (precipitator) and washing soda instead of chalk.

@cobra29935

4 ай бұрын

Makes sense why you wouldn't synthesize earth colors when dirt is literally everywhere. All I need is a shovel and to walk 2 feet outside and I have more brown pigment then I could ever need.

@kaloethina

4 ай бұрын

Yep! All of this, though most laked pigments use alum or potash to keep the colour vibrant.

@christineg8151

4 ай бұрын

Lake pigments aren't actually just dyeing chalk to get the pigments. The colored compounds from plants are often charged compounds, and when you add chalk or calcium carbonate, there's a chemical reaction that replaces whatever ion balances that charge (often sodium or potassium) with calcium. Since most calcium compounds are not very soluble in water, the calcium salt precipitates out of solution. The carbonate that was previously bound to the calcium is still in solution, hanging out with the original cation from the colored product, and it can get rinsed away when you pour off or filter the liquid after the dye precipitates. Lake pigments are cool!

Just want to share some caution around pigment making. Some people have tried grinding down mollusc shells for pigments, however in grinding mussels to get shapes for sculptures a Canadian artist got severely sick with heavy metal poisoning and it took time to learn it was the dust from shells doing this. Shell and bone bioaccumulate heavy metals which are safely inert in their solid form but as soon as they are worked, can become a dangerous source of toxicity. Be careful about making your pigments without protection for your lungs and skin! A lot of different materials can make up stones where some could do more harm than others and overall fine particles aren’t something you want coming into contact with your lungs! This project was very cool to watch and it seems a lot of trial and error is involved to find the right combination of source materials, grind and oil to make a workable pigment. I love that you pushed on and made such a wonderful painting despite only the partial success!

@stellazzio479

3 ай бұрын

It scares me how far down in the comments I had to look to find this. I work with gemstones and crystals for a living and I always have to tell my customers to be mindful of stones because some of them contain some really toxic minerals with Lapis Lazuli being one of them. While they’re fine in their polished form, inhaling or ingesting the dust from the powdered form can be really dangerous! So I definitely share the sentiment of safety for anyone wanting to grind up rocks into a powdered form. Wear a respirator, folks, and make sure you properly research your materials!!

@Rain_boot

3 ай бұрын

I had just commented about this same thing! him grinding up the Lapis without any proper gear was giving me anxiety.

@Auchtahelweit

3 ай бұрын

@@Rain_boot ​ @stellazzio479 I mean he even uses the stone as the thumbnail image so it'll grab attention. Given how many people follow his content it'd be great if he added a disclaimer around it.

@Rain_boot

3 ай бұрын

@@Auchtahelweit He does this quite often unfortunately, so it doesn't surprise me anymore. There's been plenty of mediums he has done very little research on in the past, however it's a shame that this time could actually be dangerous considering the materials.

I immediately have concerns when crushing gemstones, as the dust that can be carried on the air and toxic if ingested. When you buy crushed ones there's usually a warning on them. That's why shop bought are tumbled and polished. Also Lapis lazuli is a kind of sodalite, but it includes pyrite - the gold flecks (dangerous when heated) - and calcite - white and hard to separate. It's hard to refine it beyond sand, as sand is tiny rocks. My instinct would be a chemical reaction to get blue before gemstones, but only cus I like chemistry.

@Rain_boot

3 ай бұрын

I commented about this same exact thing! just replying to boost this message, as well.

@hybridgoth

3 ай бұрын

Technically... lapis lazuli is a rock, sodalite is a mineral, rocks are made up of multiple minerals, so, lapis is not a type of sodalite. Whilst it's true that there are sodalite-group minerals in lapis lazuli these being 'lazurite and hauyne', the mineral sodalite isn't responsible for the blue colour of the pigment. The mineral sodalite streaks white, and, when powdered is white, whereas the sulfide rich end-members of the sodalite mineral group 'lazurite and hauyne' create blue streaks, and, when powdered are blue. Lazurite generally creates a richer blue colour than hauyne when powdered due to a higher concentration of sulfates. P.S. Sand is granular particulate matter of either rock, mineral, or, mineraloid material and often includes biominerals like shell, bone etc.

@itswadever

3 ай бұрын

Lapis lazuli was one of- if not the- first sources of blue pigment. It definitely works 😅. But you're very right on protecting the lungs. If he took it any finer he definitely would've needed respiratory protection.

Years ago, more than I care to fess up to...I was doing a project for school about the history of art. My teacher actually bought me a kit so I could demonstrate how ancient peoples used to make their inks and paints. It was, and still is my favorite project I've ever done for school.

We here in Sweden are known for our red cottages. The red colour is called Falu Rödfärg and has for the past 400 years been made from copper dust that has been grind down, burnt and then boiled in linseed oil. The red colour is very vibrant. It might have been a bit darker 400 years ago, but it’s very vibrant now days.

@FranOnTheEdge

4 ай бұрын

The result of your Lapis Lazuli grinding, might not be at intense as ultramarine blue, but did you notice that it resulted in something that looked rather like "Smalt blue" which reminds me of rusty denims. I don't know why, but I REALLY LIKE Smalt Blue! So if you don't want it, you could always send it to me! Lol! I've tried a few natural colours - one of which was earth from a wood near me with slightly more Reddish... Orangy... Brownish earth than in my garden, and yes I tried turmeric powder too, plus paprika powder, blackberries, acorns, knopper galls, alder cones, pine cones, broom flowers, rose petals, alkanet, avocado, calendula, oh, anything with any colour I thought worth trying! Fun to play around with - and earned me a purple witch's hat from my husband, lol!

@livedandletdie

4 ай бұрын

Falu Röd isn't made from copper dust... It's literally made from Burnt Limonite, which is a slag product from the copper mine, because they were mining for copper, and other minerals were left in the soil, and then they took the soil, washed it, boiled it, and burnt it. This was to remove unwanted materials, also the iron oxides turned into black pigments while the limonite turned from yellow to red. Man a lot of people doesn't understand anything about stuff yet claim to be experts on the subject... Had it been made from copper, it would've been blue or green...

@UngodlyFreak

14 күн бұрын

@Jullebulle One correction: The Falu red is actually made of iron oxide (basically the same stuff as the red dirt in this video), not copper. Copper pigments are typically blue or green.

I don’t know if it’s the grainy paints, but the texture of the painting was really amazing. It pulls you into the scene, this is one of my favorites now. Really beautiful painting.

@DarkestFinale

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. I couldn't stop looking at it. Would love more of this!

You know, just like the chocolate sculpting, it does not matter if you succeed or epically fail, the fact that you try something new to show us week after week after week, that is a win in my eyes. I love it. And as a team, we win or lose together, but either way, we learn from it

The subject matter for the final painting is just *chef's kiss*

I know YT doesn't push longer form content anymore. But I wanted to say I love when you make longer videos, ten minutes of Jazza just isn't enough, lol.

@mellisafan4470

3 ай бұрын

Agreed! I binge watch them all and love having them in the background while I make my own art. It's such a pity

@mermaidnott9713

3 ай бұрын

I haven’t seen a single video from him in two years. What is up with they’re algorithm?

@BelindaShort

3 ай бұрын

It has been pushing longer content recently

@rachel_369

3 ай бұрын

good! when shorts first started coming out it was terrible, so many content creators were suffering.@@BelindaShort

From what I remember from a chemistry class years ago, legit lapis lazuli is really really expensive and you can tell which are the more expensive paintings not by how much gold but by how much of that rich blue is present. Apparently ultramarine is either a really weak lapis giving a lighter less rich blue or its synthetic. Idk if your stones would be legit lapis or not.

@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen

4 ай бұрын

Jazza's stones were pretty obv. legit, but like he learned, he simply hadn't ground them fine enough. That's what made those paints so valuable: not (always) the materials involved, but the sheer effort and manhours needed to refine the raw materials into something that was actually useful.

@Particelomen

4 ай бұрын

Lapis lazuli is a rock that contains three different minerals; lazurite - which is the blue mineral, calcite - which is white, and pyrite - which is metallic gray/soft golden. For making pigment, you'll need as much of the lazurite as possible, so I would guess that this type of lazurite-rich lapis lazuli would be more expensive than other lapis lazuli. The rocks Jazza used was very white-gray which was why he felt he needed to sort out the bluer pieces, but he should probably use a more pure lazurite in order to get a more vibrant pigment. (And grind it more finely so that the pigment actually would work...)

@laureendavis2369

4 ай бұрын

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen I was thinking maybe it would be a bit more successful if he used a "raw" piece of Lapis. He was using pieces that had spent probably a month in tumblers with different polishing compounds

@justanotherpiccplayer3511

4 ай бұрын

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen yeah that too, I reckon his were just like not v pure

@tamago5765

3 ай бұрын

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen The refinement process for lapis lazuli paint is not purely just grinding it, to get the purest colour you have to mix the finely ground lapis with wax and gum and then knead that plaster for days/weeks in a bath of lye to get rid of all the impurities(minerals other than lazurite) That's also why you can get pretty cheap lapis lazuli paints but their colour will be extremely weak since they make them from low quality ground whole lapis.

I've been following Jazza for a long time. I remember when his account was called "Jazza Art" and you showed you how to draw things and sold his books on how to draw. Things have come a long way since then! 3

@sabwo2976

3 ай бұрын

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@ORagnar

3 ай бұрын

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@EmA-oo9xk

3 ай бұрын

Jazza Art? When was that?

The finished piece really captures the effort you went through for this video. It think this is one of the most creative videos I’ve seen in a while! I really enjoyed it!

I think that for black it was common to use soot whenever it was available rather than charcoal. Even though they're both carbon, the soot is generally easier to get into a really fine powder. For a next step in this 'journey' it would be cool to see if you can find an historian or some other expert who knows about ancient methods of making pigments and try again with their help or, at least, after consulting them.

@TheJcris87

3 ай бұрын

They used slate and coal as well as burnt bones to make black paints for hundreds of years.

I have tinkered with this before. Judging from my very limited experience, it looks like you just needed to grind you pigments to a much finer powder. I used an old coffee grinder to get it as fine as I could, and then spent an excessive amount of time grinding it in small amounts in my mortar and pestle set. If you can perceive individual particles either by touch or sight, you aren't there yet. Think baby powder smooth as your starting point. I had great success with Georgia red clay (similar to your Australian red dirt.) and with charcoal and was working on the eggshell pigment when I got distracted from the project and never got back to it. lol

@livingchaosmatrix

3 ай бұрын

I got a decently robust coffee grinder from a garage sale, and switched the motor in it for a far too strong one, the charcoal dust it makes is so fine you wouldn´t believe it.

@keylasharp8281

Ай бұрын

That GA red clay will stain everything!!! Not even bleach will get it outta white shoes.

@Crazydragongaming462

27 күн бұрын

I guess more places then va have red clay

Similar to the white of lead, a brilliant emerald green discovered and manufactured in Victorian England, known as Scheele’s Green, was derived from arsenic. It was used in practically everything from wallpaper, fabric for clothing and décor, paint for children’s toys, and books. It wasn’t unheard of that children died from licking the bright green wallpaper in their nursery. Victoria Finlay’s “Color: A Natural History of the Palette” and Kassia St. Clair’s “The Secret Lives of Color” are both wonderful books for the artist’s quest for colored media throughout the ages. Love the evocative painting you did with your pigments!

That final product is SPECTACULAR! Watching you go through the process taught me a) yes, be very very grateful for modern paints and b) now I know why older paints had that earthier quality to them:)

Fun fact! A lot of these colorant techniques are still used in ceramics for glazes! The red dirt is probably high in specifically red iron oxide and that’s typically used for reds, browns, and occasionally blacks (although manganese is more typically used for black) we usually use cobalt or copper oxide for blues, chrome oxide is a very strong green and if you mix tin in with it you’ll get some pink! I really enjoy learning more about what substances are used for both my art and other specialties!

the stick turning into charcoal was hilarious

@zmythos

4 ай бұрын

It was such a seamlessly edited transition he literally had me fooled for a second lol

⚠I have heard somewhere that grinding up Lapis Lazuli could actually be really harmful if ingested. So please be careful and do your own research before thinking about trying this at home, just for your own sake💖⚠

@Jas8153

22 күн бұрын

Wear a mask😀😷

Here are some songs in the video for those who want to know. 6:26 The Goths by Bonnie Grace 8:06 Highland Hymn by Bonnie Grace

Your painting at the end made me tear up, it felt really meaningful, you picked the perfect subject for your handmade medium! So many humans worked hard to make art happens since the dawn of time, It's beautiful

And this is why the apprentices ground the pigments: day after day, after day, after day, for a week and then all over again. Wonderful subject for your primative paints! Bravo!

Ah!!!! I’m SO HAPPY you finally did this!!! I absolutely adore making things from the literal basics in historical ways. It’s so wonderful and just really helps you understand your art materials all the better.

i also really love the art you made from it in the end, its very like the colours ifself, earthy raw and genuine

For a super chaotic Jazza video, this was actually a very good look at art history. I genuinely didn’t know Sienna and Umbria were places. Love these experimental videos. You should’ve worn your lab coat!

Thank you for all of your fun experiments, Jazza. It reminds me that I shouldn't be afraid to fail!

@farhamabbasi2325

4 ай бұрын

yes

@ionzmr685

4 ай бұрын

How did you comment 7 hours before he posted 💀

@whuuuut2035

4 ай бұрын

@@ionzmr685 That's what I wanna know, lol, maybe this was one of those patreon/members first videos?

I love how you try everything! Pass or fail, it doesn't matter. And even when you have a fail, you go back and try it again to figure out how to make it pass. Your videos are just plain fun to watch. I took up painting years ago after a spinal cord injury made it impossible for me to continue with my work (construction [foundations, framing, roofing, finish carpentry] and custom furniture). The wolf and pup in my profile picture is one of my more successful pieces. I don't do it for profit. My family loves getting them for birthday and Christmas presents though. You give me a lot of inspiration.

Honestly, I think there is a place for the coarser, sandier paints! They could create some awesome textures for paintings, especially fantasy or sci fi!👏

i'm a little surprised that it wasnt mentioned in the video and in my brief scroll i didnt see it in the comments either but the colours you were able to successfully recreate were just about the colours of the indigenous flag. red earth, yellow, and black. likely also the colours that would've been easiest to come by as an ancient australian too. though, uh, with your comment about the mango cows its possible that the yellow back then also came from urine rather than tumeric... but still an interesting thing to note, imo. the final painting looked awesome! very meta to make a painting of people cave painting out of paints made in traditional style lol

Daniel Smith has watercolor paints with actual gemstones in it (including lapis lazuli). It’s their genuine series

He gets so down on himself, which I relate to from being a perfectionist, then pulls off this amazingly beautiful piece of art that blows me away. He truly is THE artist! Love you Jazza!

I loved this video! I'm so grateful that I can go to my local art store and just buy any color I need and start painting. Your cave painting at the end was brilliant!

Using stones like Lapis, etc have a much more laborious process to actually leech out the pigment and get rid of the grainy texture "finely ground source material like Lapis with mastic, linseed oil and wax to make a 'plastic' which is then laboriously kneaded over days and weeks in a bath of lye in order to leech off the pure lazurite particles"

I’m so curious if any paint makers have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this process. I’m so impressed with your results for your first time doing this though and I really want to see more!

@MattsProductions

4 ай бұрын

(Not a paint maker but a chemist) one of the things he couldve done us he couldve gotten a rock tumbler to make them extra powdery, also he used the wrong types of dirt, some australian dirt is really red and its actually iron minerals in the dirt, also for the blues he couldve used copper sulfate or copper carbonate which are also known as azurite and malachite which way more people used for the blue/teal colour

@TheMightyOmega-NotTheAlpha

4 ай бұрын

Paint chemist here, the pigments themselves (aside from the beetroot which isn’t really a pigment) aren’t so much the problem, he really needed to grind things much finer. You can’t really make paints of the type we are used to by using hand tools like a mortar. You need to mill the pigments much finer. A ball mill might have worked.

@deltahillcreative

4 ай бұрын

I'm nowhere near a professional paint maker, but have learned a few things in the area. Most notable being, the makeing reasonable pigments and paint requires multiple, lengthy steps. Definitely not something that can be rushed. Jazza has given us the quick version which covers the basics. AND he's still managed to create a brilliant painting with his results. But he's also shown us that it's not easy and the quality of the paint you end up with, reflects the time you allow the process. Crushing and grinding the materials will obviously create pigment. But if you want smooth paint, you need to levigate your crushed materials to get rid of impurities, separate the settled sludge from the coloured water, then dry the sludge material to grind and levigate again. How many times you do this depends on the hardness of the material and desired pigment colour. With materials like lapis lazuli, each levigation and reduction creates a different shade of blue. After levigation, the coloured water needs to be mixed with a binder such as gum arabic, in order to create the paint and the remaining sludge, once dried, can be ground into powder and then mulled with a binder. Again, the mulling process needs to be done thoroughly, multiple times to reduce any remaining grittiness. Now it is smooth, you can either use as is right away, put your paste into watercolour palettes to dry and use as watercolours, or add your linseed oil to make oil paint. All I know for sure is, I agree with Jazza when he says how lucky we are to have access to the paint and colours we do today. I doubt I'd have had the patience to go through all of this just to paint a picture back then. And can you imagine how awful a lot of the paints must have smelled?? No thanks! 😂

I've always been curious about this. Thanks for making this video. I really liked the painting you did with them.

"Make Ink" by Jason Logan is about foraging things from the wild and making ink. It's an interesting read with recipes to boot! It might make for a good Jazza production! I loved this book and have always intended to make my own ink since it's what I primarily work with. I just never had the time to do so.

Professional dyer here. I just started my natural dye journey about a year ago (although I've been dyeing for almost a decade), and have been researching using natural plants and food waste to make artist pigments. I'm not too familiar with using earth pigments, but there are great resources on laking your own plant pigments to obtain artist quality paints. Alizarin crimson comes from laking madder root and Mayan Blue from indigo. Essentially, the color needs to be extracted from the plant material by heating the raw materials in a pot with water, then straining the raw materials out after the dye has been extracted. The dye is then laked with a mordant (usually alum) and precipitator (soda ash) to make the pigment insoluble and sink to the bottom. Everything is then filtered through a coffee filter and dried. Once completely dried, the pigment can be mixed with a binder to create pastels, watercolor or other paints. Thanks so much for the video, and I hope you continue to experiment with using natural pigments!!

@bambiraptor9

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your process! 😊

Final piece is amazing! Could have been soooo muddy with all the brown tones, but you crushed the light and shadow! Good job!!

You are a master. I started down this road of pigments and was blown away from completing my task because of the tube of paint laying next to a palette knife. As I asked myself " why keep going?" The realization of progress. We are blessed to be where we are in the art world. Too bad the rest of history seems elusive to the blessings of today. Thank you So Much for sharing your hard work.!

Dear Jazza, I love this video very much!❤ I am fascinated by colours and their production and history and use now and then, and I think you did a great job. Thank you so much for inspiring me to try it as well. It looks like a lot of fun. I also think, that your colours, even if not perfect, were stunningly beautiful. I liked them more than the other ones, actually. They had something magical. Thank you for this video. May more of that kind follow. 😂❤ Much love from Austria

I genuinely love these kinds of videos, where the emphasis is on the processes and the history and the joyous experimentation of art ❤ they really dig down to that kindred spirit of creativity that has been a part of us since we first stood on two legs and started using tools 😊

I love that painting, the fact that it's made like that, and the history of the image, awesome! As always Jazza❤

@adelheidbekaert5972

4 ай бұрын

I agree. I didn't think he would be able to make anything out of these paints and then he ends up with this masterpiece, appropriately themed. That is how you recognize the really creative ones. They can make anything out of almost nothing.

That piece at the end was truly stunning. You're awesome.

I've had one of the worst days of my life today and hearing Jazza say I look good today honestly really helped. Thanks ❤

That end result is low-key one of the best I've seen in a while! I'm blown away honestly!

I just love how jazza is so funny and creative at the same time. The way he always makes me smile is amazing

This is genuinely really cool to see! It's easy to take for granted the range and vibrancy of the colours that are accessible today, and super interesting to see what artists had to work with historically. Reminds me a bit of one time in uni where I painted a still life with just different kinds of tea for my colours, haha. Makes me want to experiment with getting colours from unusual sources again!

Don’t give up Jazza! I would really recommend watching the lapis Lazuli watercolor tutorial by Dirty Blue Tube. The binder is different of course but all of the processing instructions in the first half should still be applicable.

Love this sort of content, where we get some historic background about paints and art. Please more of that! Great video!

I wonder if your actual talent is underappreciated because of the surrounding silliness. Im not an artist myself. I used to draw a lot when i was younger but nothing exciting. I have watched you create works of art from all sorts of disciplines. Genuinely good art. Like inwas a good photographer but i couldnt draw or sculpt. You are creating wonderful works of art from junk. Seriously.. in this video you took only 3 barely passable oil paints and created a Genuinely good artwork. That takes talent. Well done you.

Another thing that you can use as thinners is: 1. Lavender Spike oil 2. Citrus Solvent (Citrus essential oil that has mostly d-limonene in it) 3. Linseed oil + soap

I’m impressed by the level of detail that you achieved through those rough paints. Well done Jazza! 🎉

Painting looks really cool. Shows that it’s all about the artist and not about the materials.

I’ve been following you for literally my entire childhood and it has been amazing to see you grow into this incredible and crazy arty party! Love you man ❤

I am so surprised that anything Jazza makes/uses for art, turns into amazing work. Keep up the good work.👍👍👍

You probably won’t ever want to do it again, but the key to reducing or eliminating the grain in stone extractions is either CLR or 30% vinegar. The CLR breaks down lime and calcium and any oxidized iron. Then the vinegar breaks down quartz deposits. That is a multi day soak in each solution. Once the binding elements are compromised, the stones grind down to perfect powder. I extract naturally tinted mica and add it to white paint for a Pearl look to play with. Where I live we have a rusty orange, beautiful blue grey, and a medium light green variety. I’ve also found purple grey recently, but haven’t collected enough of it yet to process it. This video was awesome!

OMG PLEASE do another vid like this, I love ancient history and I yelled “ooooh!” out loud when u saw the title of this one. And I LOVE the painting at the end, prehistory is so rad

I find the way we've always tried to make colors so interesting. I remember when I studied art at university in the textile workshop we were working with wool and our instructor told us about how the vikings would dye their wool blue, and how they made the dye itself. They picked the leaves off of woad herbs, dried them up and cut them up, then they would put them in pots filled with urine and let it ferment for a few months and the end result was blue dye! I wonder how they came up with this specific process

@johnmichaelrutherford3514

4 ай бұрын

if i had to guess maybe a happy accident, it wouldn't surprise me at all or even just them desperately looking for a more readily available source of blue pigment.

Your channel never fails to be inspiring! I just got your bundles for bodies and faces and started working in them. I'm struggling a lot with understanding how the face method works. But if you can make your own homemade paints and power through to make a great painting even if the results of your paint weren't what you hoped for, then by gosh I can push through and continue studying to try and make sense of how to do the circle method for faces.

Wow the piece you made at the end is incredible, it feels awesome!!!

The reason the lapis lazuli has variation is because its a rock thats a mix of lazurite, calcite(calcium carbonate, same composition as chalk/limestone), and pyrite(fools gold)

@hybridgoth

3 ай бұрын

Indeed, lapis lazuli can have a highly varied composition. Of the minerals comprising lapis 'lazurite, hauyne, afghanite, vladimirivanovite, calcite and pyrite etc.', only the lazurite and hauyne are blue when powdered, all the other associated minerals powder to a white or grey, and thus, the presence of the others in any significant volume will detract from the saturation of the blue. This is why a lengthy process is employed to create rich ultramarine blue pigments from lapis...

Your final art piece was amazing!

The final piece is AMAZING! A true artist, wow!

What a painting and what a journey!!! Feel so blessed to have paints that we can grab and go and not spend hours on making the smallest amount

SO excited. I love rushing to support you and your channel.

This is my favorite video you've done in a good while, Jazza! Great stuff.

this was so cool to watch and your final result was still amazing!

i really like the educational bits in this video! and the end reslut turned out way better than i expected, good job!

love jazza he's like the BEST ARTIST AND SCULPTER!

This is very cool! I love this kind of thing, and would love to see a part 2 exploring more options like lamp black and copper green. I think the main issue with some of them being too grainy is that they just weren't ground up enough. In the past people would spend hours wet grinding pigments to get them as fine as possible. There are also different qualities of lapis, you would need to shell out for the really expensive high grade lapis to get a bright blue. Great video, and a great reminder not to take for granted all the amazing pigments that are available to us now.

I actually just came across a tiktok of someone making lapis lazuli into a pigment, and it took days or weeks. It's a while process. I think you did an amazing job with very little knowledge, and in the time frame you did it in.

Love it and I love the subject matter of your painting. You rock Jazza.

I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE MY OWN PAINTS LIKE THIS

Omg I love this kind of videos. Love you and thank you jazza ❤️❤️😍.

i learned so much in this vid. thanks jazza!

I'd love a part 2 interview with some kind of pigment expert! That painting was amazing!

Fun fact!, a dehydrator would have worked with the beetroot

nice paint I went to paint mills in holland and they where milling rocks so they can be put in paint just like this

That artwork at the end is very moving. I really love the tribute of painting ancestors with the paint they would of used.

Loved the history lesson mixed into the paint creation fun!