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@omegaderose4342

8 ай бұрын

if you take in scrach you can later gibve him the terrible woman who "trains" the dogs, the bard form the groove you cna smach the guitar she got form her dead master, another bad chocie you did not do, because both count as small quests, another and arguably the most evil choice in Act 3, where if you are Dark Urge and accept the deal with Bhaal, Jaheira and Minsc will confront you outside the Temple of Bhaal, and not only can you kill them during the fight, you can use the Tadpole to MIND CONTROL MINSC AND HAVE HIM KILL JAHEIRA.

@BlueDandyLyon

8 ай бұрын

Yo, I am actually dedicating next year to learn how to code, thank you for this! This sounds like the perfect way for me to learn!

I love how trough this vile and monstrous playtrough you always have a little "astarion approves" flair in the corner whenever you do something evil. Astarion truly is the most reliable moral compass of the game.

@BluMusa

8 ай бұрын

if you do something good, he dissaproves xD

@namethefifth7315

7 ай бұрын

​@@BluMusaas long as doing it is also funny he will aproove

@aerieleah533

7 ай бұрын

I will say sometimes he disapproves of doing things that remind him of what he went through.

@yourfavoritebubbe7444

7 ай бұрын

@@BluMusa I mean...yes and no. He is a little more nuanced than "be good = Astarion mad. Be evil = Astarion happy". He doesn't like heroes because he is bitter and angry that no heroes came to his rescue. Imagine being tortured for 200 years by someone truly vile like Cazador only to find out when you have your freedom that there are people in the world that are kind and heroic. Not only that they are willing to help others not for personal gain but out of the goodness of their hearts and because it is simply the right thing to do. I would be *pissed* too. All that warmth and gentleness from your Tav just makes him angry because he realizes that it exists in the world it always just dried up before it got to him. He's a reflection of your character. If you are evil and mean, he will be too. If you are a little out of pocket sometimes but not overtly cruel he will follow your lead and become a good person. I love Astarion both as a romance option and a friend. He's so complex and interesting (not that the others aren't) but he really is a reflection of your play style. sorry to go off on an Astarion ramble. I have a lot of thoughts and few people to share them with :-)

@dannyhotemo

7 ай бұрын

you know you've fucked up if you do something bad and he disapproves

At the end of the game if you let the emperor kill the netherbrain and you are a mindflayer, there’s a prompt where you can kill him and eat his brain with the dialogue option “there can only be one.”

@dopaminedrought395

8 ай бұрын

thank you for this comment, it made me rethink where I want to take my power-hungry evil Tav

@Laurannah101

6 ай бұрын

hahahaha

@eggbag4182

6 ай бұрын

I love the Emperor but to be honest this is an almost reasonable option for a good ilithid playthrough considering what he did to you, Ansur, Stelmane, etc

@MasterDracer

5 ай бұрын

You don't have to be dark urge for that

@brosephstinson1297

5 ай бұрын

ONLYYYYYY ONEEEEEEE

"The death of a child: A timeless tragedy that never grows old" - dang, I just got that line :'D

@jducker8954

8 ай бұрын

... Wait... WAAAAAIT. OMG.😂

@miahbahr8720

8 ай бұрын

That's a layered joke if I ever saw one 😂

@satorii_2060

6 ай бұрын

NAHHH

@jbear3478

5 ай бұрын

OMG ME TOO lmaooo

@HeyCutie90

5 ай бұрын

Omg, me too 😂

Not killing Nightsong and Isobel in act 2 lets you backstab them in such a spectacular and awful fashion in act 3 that even Bane would be envious.

@Ytinasniiable

8 ай бұрын

He's already envious of what nightsong does to that wizard if you're being a nice guy

@Sattva468

8 ай бұрын

I’m taking notes for my Durge run 😂

@dirkcoetsee5782

8 ай бұрын

Truly for me this was the most awful thing in the game. The level of betrayal was too much

@CigBungus

8 ай бұрын

True but the wizard is too insuferrable to be left alive

@zevo9314

8 ай бұрын

fun fact, you dont actually have to save isobel in act 2 for this, you can recruit just the nightsong even if you let isobel die or kidnapped her. though the betrayal in act 3 is better if you save them both

Missing arguably the most evil choice in Act 3, where if you are Dark Urge and accept the deal with Bhaal, Jaheira and Minsc will confront you outside the Temple of Bhaal, and not only can you kill them during the fight, you can use the Tadpole to MIND CONTROL MINSC AND HAVE HIM KILL JAHEIRA.

@Omagadam1

8 ай бұрын

Holy shit. That's a little too evil for me

@natathetata1648

8 ай бұрын

That’s horrible (and awesome 😂)

@valeriomastroeni8454

7 ай бұрын

in my play trough jaheira died during the battle in the last light inn 😢

@goreobsessed2308

7 ай бұрын

Awesome I was pissed my dark urge playthrough was gonna keep me from being able to use em guess now I can 😂

@Fucisko

7 ай бұрын

@@goreobsessed2308 there is a moment in Act 2 where if you are not careful you can end up killing Jaheira accidentally as evil Dark Urge, but it is avoidable. Other than that yeah, you can have both of them all the way to temple of Bhaal.

karlach's VA performance when you let Wyll get taken to the hells by killing Mizora is so heartwrenching, her work is so good

@denis-yj3tw

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, that literally broke me. They started with a fight between them, and in my good playthrough my Tav ended up with both of them to the hells just like sworn brothers... Karlach's energy and positivity despite all the abuse and suffering she received made me realize I wouldn't be able to do an evil-only durge run having her as companion :(

@tno895

Ай бұрын

Kinda irked me when I was romancing her and tried cooking the devil for kicks. She went from never talking to Wyll and fucking me to having her heart ripped out over the guy. A bit of a head turner amidst her grief

In act one you missed the opportunity where you can just take the idol of Silvunas from the grove. This causes the tieflings and the druids to fight and kill each other. This is indeed the easiest way to destroy the grove. no goblin horde needed.

@karlwittenburg5868

8 ай бұрын

Oh really?? Wow I didn’t even think of that but that makes my planning of a genocide run a lot easier because I wasn’t sure if you could kill everyone between the druids or the goblins

@ktkr5273

8 ай бұрын

It's easier with the goblins imo

@twogruden9943

8 ай бұрын

@@karlwittenburg5868 I had intended to side with the goblins in my DU playthrough but the hobgoblin bothered me so that didn't work out. In the end I found that the OP is right: allowing the snake to kill the tiefling girl, telling her parents that the druids killed her, then stealing the idol later and taking out the goblins altogether is the most devastating course overall. All but 1 druid dies aside from Halsin, and about half of the tieflings get slaughtered. And of course the goblins are all dead. Funny thing is, I still got credit for saving the tieflings, although you can basically finish the job later. Just bear in mind, the blacksmith dies too, so you have no way to help Karlach.

@Ganmorg

8 ай бұрын

Not too bright, that Mol

@karlwittenburg5868

8 ай бұрын

@@twogruden9943 that’s actually not a problem, my plan was to kill Karlach right away because her questline isn’t necessary to expose anyone into order to kill them, so better to just get her taken care right off the bat in a genocide run

Interestingly, if Mayrina is killed by your hands, either accidentally from AoE or directly, when you use the Bitter Divorce to bring back Connor he smells the blood on you and breaks the control of the wand screaming Mayrina's name before attacking you. It was pretty chilling to encounter by accident when I fried her unintentionally with the electric AoE damage from my Storm Sorcerer/Tempest Cleric playthrough.

@matthewsimon6170

4 ай бұрын

So wait, if only a little, Conner is actually still in there? Fuck, that's incredibly depressing, because the only way he can be free, is if she can't be there to see it.

@waterxwhite

2 ай бұрын

I killed her because she was mean to me

I absolutely love how your other "I made all the bad choices so you don't have to" videos are only 10-30 minutes but this one is a hour and a half long. I'm supposing the reason why is because there are SO many decisions to make in BG3.....best RPG ever hands down.

@dopaminedrought395

8 ай бұрын

oh and this video only includes the main quests. there are a few dozen hours of gameplay not touched on at all.

Truly a masterpiece when the game requires multiple "bad choice" runs. This is not a joke when I say a game like this hasn't been made for 20 years. Promised, yes, but actually delivered? No. This game will be a high water mark for most people when it comes to comparing RPGs of the future. That's why other developers are so upset.

@zevo9314

8 ай бұрын

i'm on my 5th playthrough. i dont think i've ever played a storymode game more than twice. i usually do a good run and a bad run and call it there. but there are so many different ways to play, with so many different companions and different relationships. not to mention at this point i kinda wanna play through once as all 12 of the classes

@kittydaddy2023

7 ай бұрын

@@zevo9314 I just started on Wyll because I'm wondering if there's anything more about Mizora... for research purposes.

@babygandalf9296

7 ай бұрын

When I first started playing, I drew the conclusion that this game and Dragon Age Inquisition have very similar mechanics in terms of “your story, your choice”. However I think bg3 has much more flavor and variety in the context of consequences to every action

@kittydaddy2023

6 ай бұрын

@natmarelnam4871 OK, why are all these studios getting bought out and laying off workers? They are collapsing and Larian will stand on their graves.

@ozylocz4078

6 ай бұрын

Recently beat honor mode, and I now want to do an evil honor mode lmao I’m gonna be closing in on 400 hours of this game… I see new cutscene, deal with fights differently it’s such a good game. The only downside to this game is that it ends, and I’ll never be able to play it for the first time again

I think a worse choice for the end of act 2 is letting Shadowheart spare nightsong, then turning over nightsong to lorrokan and turning Shadowheart over to Viconia in act 3. Those are both more deliberately evil

@Fresch_K

6 ай бұрын

Lorroakan is such an insufferable wimp, letting Dame Aylin be captured by him for eternity is truly the most evil thing you can do.

@collindouglas8188

2 ай бұрын

I mean if I was an immortal self-insert dating a woman literally a tenth of my age and lost three separate battles despite being immortal against people much less powerful and made them immortal as a result, I'd probably deserve to be killed too. Oh yeah and she makes Shadowheart wait to hear her entire life that was stolen from her so she can go scissor her celebrity-worshipping, practically groomed girlfriend. She's not a great character tbh.

The fact that there are some choices you missed in a video of this length is a testament to how much the game has to offer

Gale just absolutely deleting the big bad of Bg3 is pretty badass not gonna lie.

@Kasiarzynka

5 ай бұрын

I feel like from the world's pov, it's probably the best choice, too. Four humanoids die (although with them everyone in the Moonrise Towers and around who wasn't yet dead) and sure, the infected transform, but those who were going to control them are no more. You get a bunch of soldiers, true, but disorganized, disoriented, scattered soldiers and not an organized army. And that's something our characters cannot possibly know: to them, the tadpoles could've just died once everything that created them and was connected to them is destroyed. So it's not something they could take into consideration. I say that, while not even entirely having finished act 2: I'm just after the Ketheric and Myrkul fight. But I figured I could watch this video up until the point where I'm currently at, so my perspective might be incomplete. I just feel like a "maybe we won't die and will find another way" is helluva risky play when the universe's fate depends on it.

after that scene with the drow's blood, you also have the option to coerce a romanced astarion into sleeping with you immediately after he tells you he doesn't want to anymore because it brings up too much trauma from being used that way in the past :|

There is also suprisingly bad ending for Laezell I got on my first playthrough. If you dont go into creche at all, Laezell will never learn about Vlakith being evil. At the start of ACT 3 Vlakith appears in camp and orders Lazeal to kill prince Orin. When you then get to the part where emperor munches his brain. She actually approves with its my quens will to let him die and than after you defeat Elder brain she recites the oath and red dragon comes for her at takes her to Vlakith. As she doesnt know that ascended are immidietly killed and eaten by Vlakith.

@JaySwag77

8 ай бұрын

That's tragic!

@minumeyli

7 ай бұрын

OH NO. this is the path i have her on 😭😭 omg

@user-vh8qn6zh3p

6 ай бұрын

I actually got her on that path (exactly as you described), but I did not have her in the final party when fighting Elderbrain, so she was never taken anywhere and our relationship (not romance) was good enough that when she was deciding what to do next, I just told her "I know you'll make the best choice" and she chose to travel instead of going back to creche and ascending. 🤔 Which made me very happy of course :D

@masterchiefofhalo4525

5 ай бұрын

Made even worse if you yourself are girth and go with her. You end up dead with her

@KlausKlausen-pe3jq

4 ай бұрын

I didn't go to the creche too but when Vlakith appeared in my camp I had the opportunity to read her mind and share it with Lae'zel. This way she still found out about Vlakith real intentions and her betrayal. After this Lae'zel immediately turned against Vlakith and she wanted to free Orpheus.

Giving the noblestalk to the husband is the most evil thing tbh

@redcrocs

8 ай бұрын

Is there a clip of this!!!!

@taelion

8 ай бұрын

Not from my side, I undid it pretty soon as he was abusive the second his brain started working again and we can´t have that.@@redcrocs

@comeslammer9455

8 ай бұрын

​@@taelionhe may be a dickhead but imagine if ur wife kept u as a mindless thrall and used you for dangerous manual labor

@myrrhs01

8 ай бұрын

Actually, if you give it to him, it gives his wife the courage to leave him in Act 3. If they separate, you can find her in a shop in Baldur's Gate and you can give her a pet cat.

@aqua3589

8 ай бұрын

@@myrrhs01he kicks her out actually, in baelens basement there is a book where he admits she isnt doing enough so he is gonna throw her on the streets

making karlach transform just to stab her to death is absolutely brutal, wow “this was all i had…”

You missed the truly worst choice available in the game: multiclassing barbarian with wizard

As someon3e who's too much of a wimp to even hurt fake character's feelings i appreciate this as also being someone who want's to see everything a game has to offer.

@Suiteness73

2 ай бұрын

This is me completely. There is no way I could do an evil run. I have tried in other games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, but it just never works out. I end up feeling so guilty and reload the save.

@jbbolden3104

Ай бұрын

@@Suiteness73this is me rn, i’m on my 5th play through rn, 2nd time as durge, and i just can’t force myself to make any evil decisions cause i just feel immediately terrible. idk how people do it especially something like this run lol

Honestly there's something just heartwrenching about Gale's Act 3 Solo finale. He never once lets his tone falter in the confrontation, he holds that dry wit until the very end, probably thinking of Tav n gang in the final moments too. Him n Karlach are some of my favorite characters in recent years of games, I genuinely hope I never forget my first playthrough with them. I know I would have never seen this ending, even if I wanted to, so thank you for this video and for making me cry.

I’m surprised Ethel actually tries to remove it! I figured she was lying so I never let her try, but you actually learn a good bit of information from her attempt and analysis of the power behind your parasite.

@FantasyAddict95

6 ай бұрын

The hag does uphold her end of her bargains, just in a way that makes you wish you hadn't sought her out. Losing your eye, having difficulty socializing, and being weaker against her when she was planning on yoinking it out through your ear? She mutilated you as a *milder* punishment than she'd normally give for seeking her help for *wants* because even she sees ceremorphosis as a horrible fate, and you getting her to remove it as a *need* rather than a *want.*

@destinygalearies7382

Ай бұрын

Yeah, when I took her deal on a follow up (second) playthrough I was stunned that she reveals the tadpole is surrounded by Netherese magic. Normally that's not something you find out about until literally the end of Act 2 when you actually encounter the Absolute. I just wish there was something where Gale would be like "uh oh, I know something about Netherese magic" bc when I did it he had no reaction

@isaacsimpson8098

Ай бұрын

Yep, he doesn't show it but she even gives you a gift to make up for her failure which is a little charm that gives you the effect of all enchance abilities until long rest, or you can pick one I don't remember. Also you can ally with her later

Hey one you missed is that in the grove is that you can tear the wounded birds wings off in the grove after nettie heals it.

@Spungle15

8 ай бұрын

Oh my god 😥

@CODDE117

8 ай бұрын

Holy shit

@ericolivecarmona7871

8 ай бұрын

Why 😢

@dopaminedrought395

8 ай бұрын

That's just a side dark urge option that doesn't impact anything. I think he just covered the quests that impact the ending, because there are many other things missing otherwise

@omegaderose4342

8 ай бұрын

he missed a lot like giving scratch back to the dogtrainer and so manny more

one thing you probably didn't notice, but with the Raphael fight, not only is the voice actor singing, if you silence Raphael or kill Raphael with the other cambions still alive, his voice gets cut out from the song

@lunardelos1210

2 ай бұрын

This no longer works. I tried it myself recently. Unfortunate really as I found the repeating song highly annoying when his part cuts in

Mayrinas voice actor really gave it her all, can really feel the utter sorrow in that “i thought you were going to help”

It's remarkable how much stuff this game lets you do, it reminds me of Morrowind where you could just kill anybody and mess your game up. They manage to make it so the game still works pretty much whatever you do, which means a ridiculous amount of contingencies built in for if the player just flies off the rails. On my third playthrough I didn't stop Shadowheart when she puts the knife to Lae'zels throat, to see how the dialogue played out, only to be shocked that well, she is just gonna be dead now, and you have to deal with that.

@zevo9314

8 ай бұрын

my game bugged out. shadowheart killed laezel, and i got all of the dialog from all of the companions talking about how they cant believe shadowheart had it in her to do it. but after the long rest, laezel was still alive and i finished the game with her

@alissapenridge7516

7 ай бұрын

Can you resurrect Laelae after that or is it a scripted permadeath?

@zevo9314

7 ай бұрын

@@alissapenridge7516 it is a scripted permadeath, unless yours does what mine did

You can also convince Lae'zel to stay loyal to Vlaakith, which ends in her 'ascending'. But from Voss you know that ascension means Vlaatkith is going to consume her to gain her power. It's not shown in a cut scene, which is pretty disappointing. But the conversations with evil unhinged Lae'zel are pretty funny.

@Ytinasniiable

8 ай бұрын

The consumption is more of an eventuality, she does get her dragon, so presumably she does some work before vlaakith uses her for a wish or something

@violetembers330

4 ай бұрын

There is a cutscene that gets you as close to showing this as you can. It’s right before the camp epilogue scene-Lae’zel walks into Vlaakith’s throne room and notices the other gith are zombies. Then it cuts to the Queen with a pretty sly grin 😢 Poor Lae’zel

@cletusmcyeetus5975

4 ай бұрын

In the epilogue (I think) it's implied by Withers that Lae'zel died afterwards. And y'know, considering how powerful Withers is, I doubt he's lying.

Missing some I really love: 1. Steal the Idol of the grove which will case a Civil War between Tieflings & Druids, you just need the Darkness Spell for that. (cast darkness over you + idol, grab idol, open map, teleport away) 2. Then bring the Goblin Horde over, the combat will be resolved automaticly in the Goblin's favour when you Long Rest. Minthara still acts like she saw you fight with passion.

The fact that there are dozens if not hundreds of comments talking about different ways to be more evil just goes to show how expansive this game is. How in depth it is, I’m so glad this game won a bunch of awards including game of the year, best rpg and best multiplayer. They deserve all the success, really. I’m really thankful for this game, I wish I could tell them in person how glad I am but I’m sure they’re getting plenty of praise as it is.

Small note about Ethel in act 3: you dont need to have the hagsbane potion, you can knock her out using non lethal means, then cut the child out. Obviously not for evil but still.

The little “Astarion approves” on these evil decisions is sending me 😂

1:01:16 Ketheric's armour has a toggleable passive feature that makes its wearer immune to being moved against their will, but gives them disadvantage on dex saves. It also prevents them from being teleported by Dimension Door, much to my dismay.

I really like (the option of) Gale's bad Act II ending, because it is such a nice plot twist. When discussing the topic with him or talking to the other characters about Mystra's demand, only the consequences of the explosion itself and the cruelty of the sacrifice are ever mentioned. If you have puzzled together all information about the tadpoles though (which is what Origin Gale is prompted to do several times), you can come to the conclusion that there is another reason why exploding the orb is a really bad idea - namely the one mentioned in the epilouge. Also accidentally clicking on Gale's orb cantrip might count as a bad decision. XD

@destinygalearies7382

Ай бұрын

Honestly I was amazed the game devs had the balls to let you instantly beat/conclude the game in Act 2. Most writers would just contrive some excuse as to why Gale just couldn't go through with it (to railroad you into seeing the rest of the game they worked so hard on). But nope you can do the logical thing and just have him explode and kill everyone good and bad, locking yourself out of literally all of Act 3 and the endings of every single other companion quest. It's amazing to see that kind of commitment from writers who will set up a story and follow through on letting the player make that decision, even if it means something bad happen or in Act 2's ending case, locks the player out of content completely

@anska7475

Ай бұрын

​@@destinygalearies7382 Gale's whole story is one that I come to appreciate more the more often I play it because it allows you to take different stances towards what's going on - even if they aren't healthy. You can be that devout person (I wouldn't call it logical) who doesn't question Mystra's command, or you can argue against it from several positions. I never feel railroaded with him.

I feel like turning Karlach into a mindflayer is a worse choice than her going back to the hells with either Tav, Wyll or both. Sure. as a mindflayer she is free and won't die but she also loses her soul and eventually her mind.

@exantiuse497

8 ай бұрын

The thing people don't get is this: that isn't Karlach. That is her *tadpole* which thinks it's Karlach. So letting her transform is the same as letting her die Larian for whatever reason decided to obfuscate what the mind flayer transformation actually does but the DnD lore is very clear, the tadpole eats your brain and takes over your body and you die (the soul destruction isn't a thing either, although you do need a wish or miracle to be resurrected since the mind flayer has your body now). Sometimes the resulting mind flayer has some memories or fragments of the host's personality but it is a different entity altogether. (Also the thing about mind flayers having no soul doesn't make sense either since there are mind flayer liches who obviously must have a soul, and also they worship their own deities which in DnD universe require worshippers with souls to exist and have power)

@Kevinx6

8 ай бұрын

​@exantiuse497 while that's typically the case, these are still different tadpoles. Withers does suggest that after the transformation, the soul is gone. Likely, fled the body since whatever version of a soul illithids have would inhabit the body. But these tadpoles retaining your memories and personality may suggest that with orpheus's power, they shift from parasite to symbiote. Assimilating your brain instead of just consuming it may very well be how these operate. Especially given that Orpheus is even willing to undergo the transformation, and doesn't try especially hard to convince you to do it instead. The secret ingredient is forcing the aberrant mind into cohabitation instead of dominance

@anska7475

8 ай бұрын

How do you even get the ending that she leaves for Hell with Wyll? I never got an option. Then again I played with Origin Astarion and Gale and both a forced to leave the scene (due to sunlight or Mystra having horrible timing) before Karlach's engine starts to fail.

@Tiucaner

8 ай бұрын

@@anska7475 Wyll has to become the Blade of Avernus and he stops Karlach from killing herself and convinces her to return to the Hells. The player character can accompany them as well.

@anska7475

8 ай бұрын

@@Tiucaner Hmm, he did in both of my saves, but I guess the player has to still be around ... and not taken out of the story by evil sunlight or Mystra. But thank you, then I am maybe lucky with Durge. Especially with Origin Astarion Karlach's explosion was painful because he was right there in the shadow of those boxes and couldn't be at her side.

For the bibabang gnome in the under dark, there’s a way to return his memory to him with the flower in their, and it turns out that he abused his wife before he lost his memory, so putting a victim back into an abusive relationship that she so recently escaped is objectively more evil than killing a dude who was already a wife beater

@Timelodged

6 ай бұрын

Definitely glad I gave the mushroom to Shart!

@anthony6929

5 ай бұрын

I reloaded like 4 times trying to rescue him. He died a fiery death every time so I gave up. Must have been his karma.

The end credit’s scene is really sinister with Raphael. He basically takes over the Hells and says he will conquer the material plane as well

@mitchcane2352

8 ай бұрын

Specifically he's almost done taking over Avernus. However, the dude is high off his own ego and deluded himself into thinking that the crown makes him absolutely unbeatable. The second Asmodeus notices what he's doing he's going to have his ass whooped to next sunday.

@Asgaardiangatekeeper

5 ай бұрын

​@@mitchcane2352Thats a message to the player, saying he is coming for us next. He said he was looking for new realms and different worlds.

1:11:27 The reason you didn't get the scene where Raphael retrieves the crown from you, is because when you choose the betray (1:16:35) ending or use Gale to blow up the brain, then the Crown is either destroyed or still attached to the Elder Brain. Thus Raphael is unable to retrieve it from you or the brain.

@TheProphetOfNoGod

2 ай бұрын

There should be a Scene where he confronts you about not receiving the crown. There is one when Gale uses it to become a God.

@Terror_Official

2 ай бұрын

@@TheProphetOfNoGod Well in this particular end, which doesn't have an epilogue, the Elder Brain mind controls you; hence why it's the bad ending. You don't actually take control of the brain, rather the opposite; fall into its big brain plans. So all the supposed scene you'd be asking for it to be, would be Raphael yelling at the Elder Brain as to why it hasn't given up its Crown and power. Else he'd be (dumbly) yelling at a thrall expecting it to hand over the Crown still attached to its master's head. This video was also made before the Epilogues were added, so it was a greater ask back then than it is now.

@TheProphetOfNoGod

2 ай бұрын

@Terror_Official Where are you taking this information from? I not aware of any indication, that we are controlled by the elder brain in the end.

@Terror_Official

2 ай бұрын

@@TheProphetOfNoGod I'll bite, this is an arguable hidden trait of the story. It's hubris to think any level 12- can mentally maintain control over an Elder Brain, let alone one that's become what it has. The three Netherstones don't control it at all, it simply played along with the Chosen Three's plan until it suited it. The Brain will continue to grow in power under Karsus' influence. The endings show the character's eyes light up with purple which is never shown as an aspect of controlling the brain, even when the Chosen Three were "controlling" it. In fact you take on eye glow similar to that of your instantly enthralled companions. The only ending where it may be plausible is one where you side with the Emperor, eat Orpheus' brain yourself, then betray him at the final precipice and become an Illithid Ruler yourself. That way you'd have the ability to block its psionic control (This is the only ending I'd attach what you're mentioning to it). In the other endings where you take control of the brain, it requires you to kill Orpheus or the Emperor who have that power. This of course would allow the Brain to immediately retaliate no matter its weakened state that it feigns; since you no longer have Orpheus' hivemind disruption. This information is explained several times throughout the game and even by the brain itself right before it leaves it Morphic Pool. The Crown and subsequently the Brain cannot be controlled while its psionic influence still reigns, and that ending also does not remove your own tadpole connection. The brain feigns a surrender, stating it wants you to join with it the same way a flayer is part of its hivemind. Not even a Bhaalspawn has this ability to just ignore the Brain on its own.

@TheProphetOfNoGod

2 ай бұрын

@Terror_Official I'd say, the Brain saying it was in control all the time, and just played along with the chosen, is it trying to deceive us. I dont see any advantage appearing controlled gives you over being fully free. However, I do agree with you, that if you don't absorb Orpheus Power for yourself, it makes more sense in the Story that the Brain controls you. This just means, they not only didn't put Raphael confronting you, when controlling the brain, in the game, but also the brain controlling you, when trying to do so whiteout the needed power. And tbh im also missing one for when you succefully control the brain. (I did just that (Full Illithid, absorb Orpheus)) The Game basicly just ends.

You didn't show the best line when turning on Zevlor, which is: "Don't worry, you won't have to watch when the goblins find the children." and the look of pure horror on his face.

7:34 I think the worst part about this is that I unironically did this during my current playthrough where I'm trying to be as GOOD as possible. It was 4 am and I forgot there was an option to release the brake, spam clicked my way into there, and watched the little guy go flying thinking to myself "Uhhhh, he's probably fine..."

@nathanbanks2354

5 ай бұрын

That's what I did, though I blamed it on playing with a controller. I didn't realize there were two switches.

I think I'm over my need to do a truly evil playthrough now... a few of those choices are stuff I could *never* do.

@aNotoriousPhD

6 ай бұрын

same 😭 making most of these choices would make me wanna throw up. gonna stick with playing the redeemed dark urge path lol

@danicant_

5 ай бұрын

Same, I don’t think I could ever hurt scratch

@nathanbanks2354

5 ай бұрын

I'd often do something to see what happens and then go back 1-2 saves to do what I really wanted to do.

The only thing I think you missed is that you can turn Astarion over to the Gur Hunter you meet in Act 1 (I forget his name completely), which results in the same thing as if you killed or never recruited him, which is that he is set up as a sacrifice in the ritual as a zombie and you aren't able to rescue him as normal. Other than that, very thorough and detailed coverage of the many possible choices! Very cursed indeed, it's wild how you can just completely turn on your allies out of nowhere. I love it but could never go through with it myself.

you can betray mindflayer orpheus or the emperor at the end the same way you betrayed karlach. also if you sided with the emperor, became a mindflayer yourself, and told the netherbrain to die, you can still betray the emperor after all of that and eat his brain just for the hell of it.

Minsc was wearing the ketheric armor which has the immovable effect, which you can turn on and off as you wish. That made it so he couldn't be knocked back.

There is a pretty evil twist if you wait to betray Jaheira and Minsc until after you embrace Bhaal’s gift.

God karlach reacting to wyll being dragged to hell gutted me

There's also a bad ending for Astarion if you allow the vampire hunter to kidnap him from your camp in Act1.

@kittydaddy2023

8 ай бұрын

that's the worst ending I can think of because how do you get the +2 potion in Act 2???? The horror...

@tenshi7478

8 ай бұрын

The fact shit like this can happen and I have 400hrs in the game and DIDNT know this is insane

@barcster2003

7 ай бұрын

​@@tenshi7478there's a ton of stuff that can happen.

If you convince the Drider to give you the moon lantern then you can also convince him and his crew to walk off into the shadowcurse, presumably to their deaths.

@Peleski

6 ай бұрын

not evil

If you haven’t already killed Isobel at last light, making Shadowheart a dark justiciar breaks the shield over last light and there’s a cutscene where Isobel gets murdered by the shades.

@chickenmobile

8 ай бұрын

Also kills Dammon (blacksmith that helps Karlach), Barcus Wroot and (at least for me) Jaheira. Because Jaheira died, I had no choice but to also kill Minsc in Act 3. His hamster was there mourning and literally made sad squeaky noises! :( :( :(

Really appreciate you for this video, because while I do plan on doing an evil Durge run, I could never let Gale kill himself. Even in the very last end he's still so charismatic. If anything happens to that wizard I'll cry.

@zevo9314

8 ай бұрын

personally i want to never pull gale out of the portal at the beginning. i cant stand him. but there are several fights where having a wizard is very useful

Killing someone just for laughs, doesn't make you evil, just a psychopath. And because of that, you missed the true evil option. Rescuing the dwarf and then giving him noblestalks heals him from his feeblemindness, making his wife very miserable

@VaPensiero_

8 ай бұрын

Truly evil. I devoured it myself and didn't even think about it more. Bravo!

@FrostyTheSnowPickle

8 ай бұрын

Actually, though, if you do that, she later divorces him, saying it was the wake up call she needed to realize it was time to leave him, so it has a good outcome in the end.

@MrBikboi

8 ай бұрын

The broad deserves it

@dt5690

8 ай бұрын

@@FrostyTheSnowPickle man, those journals in their cellars... he really was a despicable dwarf

@kittydaddy2023

8 ай бұрын

They deserve each other. All their situation reveals is if you are a misogynist or a misandrist.

24:22 This is awesome! He does such a good job at being indignant and flamboyantly outraged. I also love the part in act 3 when he was like "I can't tell if our companions are acting strange because they've been replaced by shapeshifters, or if it's just because this group is full of weirdos!!!"

25:14 psa: for this quest, if you shoot the bibberbang before getting too close to trigger the cutscene, he survives. I feel like nobody has ever pointed this out and I’m strangely passionate about this one exploit.

@nathanfivecoate5848

8 ай бұрын

I found that out in my first playthrough. A few days later I learned about the noblestalk and then reloaded

@squidigin9515

8 ай бұрын

@@nathanfivecoate5848 when I do it I can just go and pick it up afterwards (unless it’s been patched since I last did it, I haven’t done it for ages because I’ve gone through all the things you can do with it)

@michelangeluhhh

8 ай бұрын

I did this on accident... it was a lot of cool fireworks when I was new

@eclecticcode

3 ай бұрын

They must have patched this, I blew up the bibberbangs from a distance because I had no idea he was there... I wondered why the game devs had left a random, charred corpse in this cave lmao

You forgot sacrificing one of your companions to the reverse mermaid god deep in the underdark. Also, breaking Alfira's lute, lol

@zevo9314

8 ай бұрын

ok hurting alfira is one step too far

@alissapenridge7516

7 ай бұрын

I did it in my second dark urge playthrough bc I thought maybe she wouldn’t like me enough to try to join my camp 😢 I can’t remember if I got quil that run or if she showed up anyway

I didn't know activating Sun Spear is a bad choice. They purged monastery so they had it coming.

Making this video must've been a monumental task, you're one hell of a guy Big D, to go through all these horrible decisions is literally taxing on the soul.

I love Astarion all the more now that I've seen the "UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE SUN!" scene. I love it.

Just a note on the cut content for Karlach, the cut content for her story also reveals that her heart failing in the material plane is inevitable (source is from cut withers epilogue dialogue that I think you can find on KZread). Still no sign of cut upper city content. Only references to the upper city in code is either in passing dialogue or during the final act sequence that takes place in High Hall.

You sir deserve a like just for the sheer amount of timestamps in that video! Keep up the good work 😊

I love the Hag interaction in Act 1. If you actually give up your eye, you lose so much - including the ability to gain permanent See Invisibility. But you *gain* knowledge that you won't come to possess by other means for almost two more acts, which greatly improves not only your understanding of what you're up against, but allows you to have some very interesting conversations along the way.

Killing scratch isn't the worst choice, giving him back to the abusive kennel owners in act 3 is.

I also got Shadowheart stabbing Nightsong by accident… because Tav died during the battle with the necromancer… and the scene played out with her stabbing Ayln without my intervention… That was a painful reload

@adamjonsson7747

2 ай бұрын

Funnily enough the exact opposite happened during mine and my partners playthrough Shadowheart got blasted into the void making her unable to kill the night song.

Honestly I think it's funny how different the vibes of the 3 runs have, the dragonborn doesn't know what they're doing is evil and thinks they're helping(because they're kinda just not having a single thought), the paladin is a jock vibes of thinking they're the hero and refusing to accept they might be wrong, and the agent 47 drow is evil, knows they're evil, and doesn't give a single shit about it before massacaring civilians just because they were there

Yeah I'm glad you did these so I don't have to, I'm way too empathetic to do an evil playthrough. Even just watching some of these hurts. 41:50 Okay that one hurts a LOT.

it was in fact Minsc's gear because the reapers embrace has the rigidity aspect to it which prevents him from being knocked back by any source

The "oops my finger slipped!" actually happened in my first play though having not read the lever before pulling it. Was sad for the gnome but also couldn't stop laughing at the rediculousness of the result.

There's a LOT missing for Karlach it seems. As soon as her quest line got chugging along similar tracks to Gale's I expected every companion to have some version of "becoming the nuke", but she doesn't even have an option to just fix her problem in the first place? Damn. I mean, it's right there, she is supposed to explode eventually and from the beginning we HAVE an option to ramp up her heat manually with Soul Coins, too...

Man this is so hard to watch.. Everything around the player character dies. Hope dies. Light dies. I’m glad I can experience this side of the game through Big Dan, because there’s no way I’d be able to play like this.

"You feel different. Your body has never felt more connected." *phases in and out of an owlbear*

This made me cry a lot 😂Thank you for doing these so I never have to. OMG Karlach crying for Wyll killed me.

I don't really consider having Karlach return to Avernus to be a bad ending. It's actually pretty awesome, since it sets it up like you, her and Wyll are about to go full Doomslayer/Three Musketeers on Avernus. Although according to datamining, it is still considered a "bad" ending for Karlach because there were better outcomes for her. Shame so much content got cut. For those curious, I'm not 100% sure on the exact criteria, but I completed Karlach's quest, sold Wyll's soul, saved Ravengard and became a mindflayer (romance isn't necessary). When Karlach is melting down, Wyll can convince her to return to Avernus with him and you tag along.

34:35 isn‘t minthara tasked with finding the astral prism? the nightsong is balthazar and nere‘s turf, and ketheric later gets taunted by the other chosen for not having the prism

I would never do this, liking the characters too much, so thank you for making this so we can see what happens when you be the biggest ass in all Faerun. Honestly was fitting to do this as a Drow, they’re already jerks to the thousandth degree so this fit very well. 😆

I'm so glad you did this, every time I made a bad decision I feel guilt a little later on and just reload a save lol

Almost 1,5h of peak maidenless behavior.

Murdering the innocent, causing the death of children? Ok. But harming even a hair of scratch? Unforgivable crime

If you retrieve the noblestalk that baelin was searching for and give it to him, you’ll cure his mind ailment and turn him into an abusive husband. Lol

You missed one in the grove after you killed all the druids and thieflings you can turn on her right there as a loth sworn cleric. If you then didn't kill Halsin. You will get a scene I haven't seen anyone else get yet. He will come to your camp during the party. Not that there is a party as there will be no one left for the party because minthara would be dead and the goblins at the grove will turn on you too. He will then attack you along with some wolf buddies of his after some more evil dialogue dialogue. I didn't save before the dialogue there so there might still be a small chance to sway him to join you

@tmrxo

8 ай бұрын

i got this scene but i had minthara as a companion already 🕺🏽

42:01 That's it. If I ever play Wyll's origin, he's romancing Karlach

I love how your one character is basically a insane serial killer

I'm glad you did this, I can't handle doing an evil playthrough in an RPG so it's nice to watch that content and still know my party is safe and happy

You missed a big one: Jaheira and most people in Last Light Inn can be fought and killed right after Jaheira refuses to disentangle you and you decide to rip that trap apart and attack her instead.

I’m so pleased that my favorite mass effect creator is tootily toot tooting into bg3. thanks for all your hard work!

Thank you for all the chapter sections, I'll be coming back to this video once I complete more of the game. Love the exploration of all these unconventional choices!

Your Drow looks like the true form of Gaunter O'Dimm.

another way to kill laezel is at the very end, if you don't go to the creche at all in act 1 but keep going with laezel throughout the whole playthrough, she will ascend and then 'eaten' by vlaakith in a rather haunting cutscene (from me who accidentally did this because i couldnt find a way into the monastery)

Interesting, in my dark urge playthrough I didn't even have the option to destroy the brain, only to control it. Though in my case I had freed Orpheus and had him become a mind flayer so I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

@nathanfivecoate5848

8 ай бұрын

Must have been the dislogue bug where it sometimes only lets you select option 1 with it only reading "Continue" and not letting you see what the dialogue option says

@Flufferpup

8 ай бұрын

@@nathanfivecoate5848 No, it was pretty clear that the dialogue option was to control the brain. Now that I thought about it some more though, I think it might be due to me being bhaal's chosen and going full throttle down the evil route. No point giving players another option if they'd already pledged allegiance to bhaal I guess.

There are MANY pieces of armor or equipment in the game that prevent you from being moved by other people, by shoving or spells, so most likely the armor you had Minsc wearing prevented the skulls from pushing him around. Alternatively, for anyone who doesn't know, you can dispell the skulls by using "Remove Curse" on them, though that is a touch spell, so I recommend having two characters to run up to them if you don't have gear to prevent being forcibly moved, by going into turn based mode, have a high health character run up to the skull to trigger the push, then have a cleric run up to the skull and use the spell on them. Iirc, there are 4 skulls to do this to, and Remove Curse is a 3rd level spell, so this will take quite a few higher level spell slots to accomplish.

Thank you so much, signed everyone that plans an evil run until the first dialogue option comes up and we don’t want to hurt people’s feelings

You can also do evil by actually saving the dwarf in the underdark and feeding him the noblestalk to help him regain his memories and return to being abusive to his wife :) You can also well Wyll soul for Ravengard's life if he died at any point before (Like if you blow up the Steel Watch like I did before saving the people like I did).

When and if ypu become absolute there should be a final fight where your party turns against you (exept the ones that are favorable to this plan like astarion or minthara). They should still be protected by orpheus powers, even if the emperor takes them. In the fight, the main goal should be kiling whoever has orpheus powers. If you have assimilated orpheus yourself, you should be able to deprive them of the protection fron the netherbrain and enthrall them, or fight them if you decide to spare them. Nonetheless, at the end of every battle, killed the bringer of orpheus'powers You should then decide if to kill your old party, enthrall them, or set them free from the tadpole as one last act of friendship. Maybe in this last option, they swear vengeance against you and it is clear that a nemesis relationship develops between you and your old party. Then you should be able to decide if to enthrall the allies that you have left as some sort of perverse karma, or if to keep them as your partner in crime without being under your control. That should be cool. Or even better, there should be a way to take part in the absolute attack on baldur's gate, just to play at least a little bit as the absolute and see your old allies reaction to your choice (aylin or larroakan, the tieflings etc)

@lucapeluso4768

8 ай бұрын

Ah and you should fight raphael and the githianki in this final assault. The gith because they are your swore enemy and you may even be the one who ended their prince. Raphael if you strike a deal with him (even if not). He wants the crown, you too. The fight is inevitable. But it should be more difficult if ypu signed a contract, maybe a check to resist the punishment of breaking it

Bit strange that 2 Druids don’t have cure wounds to save a child bitten by a snake

funfact about Laezel: if you are also a githanky and friends with her, she wants to use the curing device first, but if you tell her, you want to use it first instead, she looks at you amazed, and lets you go, telling you that you deserve it, and you are an admirable leader

18:39 I think theres an eye patch at Mind Flayer colony at the end of Act 2. Next to the machine that can be used to talk to the Minds you can collect throughout the game.

@Unfortunately..

6 ай бұрын

It's Mol's patch and it can't be used, it's only an evidence that you collect to track her

You can let Orin kill Yenna while disguised as Lae’zel. Basically you can be like “yeah kill that little girl lol”

The cloudy eye makes you look crosseyed in nearly every cutscene and it's amazing

In my first Durge playthrough, I learned that if you wait to recruit Karlach until after you massacre the Grove, you can bargain with Anders to bring him her head in exchange for his sword. One of the worst feelings I've ever had doing something in a game.

Sometimes, the ends justify the means... we must perform acts of good for the GREATER EVIL

Alright, this is pure evil. Thanks for making this MONSTROUS video

24:26 and that’s why the Voice Actor for him deserves all the awards

I love the game telling you about non-lethal attacks as you plan to kill Lae'zel.