I derpped the locations; CORRECTION: Doc was born in Griffin, Georgia - mostly raised in Valdosta, Georgia - passed away in Glenwood Springs, Colorado.

@waynerobinson2301

6 жыл бұрын

Oh bullshit . All that Doc ment was " im your date , lets dance "

@curtisking5138

6 жыл бұрын

Wild4Games :"Why, Johnny Ringo,you look like somebody just walked over your grave!"

@curtisking5138

6 жыл бұрын

mtman2 : Somebody tells me "Well I wasn't, and this time it's legal",with them crazy eyes and tremblin' cigarette lips, I'd be crapping my pants too!

@curtisking5138

6 жыл бұрын

mtman2 : Yeah! "The Cowboys"! That's another great one by Doc right there, as they burst into a hotel (brothel?) "Don't move!"someone says. Doc interjects "Nonsense! By all means,move!" Notice how Doc triggered Billy to go for his gun at the OK Corral? Then blasted him with "the street howitzer"!

@curtisking5138

6 жыл бұрын

mtman2 : I wish that could find some reason to oppose your comments at least once,instead of agreeing with everything you say,but I find myself remembering scenes that are consistent with your comments.The Cowboys were bullies and extortionists. Ike Clanton was a a big mouthed coward, and it seems that he survived "the purge" by the "Immortals"! And the Doc! Would you dare to dump a woman with "I think we need to redefine the nature of our relationship!" Would you dare, after winning all his money, tell an illiterate bully who is backed by a gang of bullies "I know, let's have a spelling contest!" And mock a deadly gunslinger by replicating his display of smooth gun-handling, using a cup! A true loyal, fearless Southern gentleman!

Val Kilmer is still owed an Oscar for this role. That he didn't win easily is a testament to the silliness of the Academy.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely!

@billydurham4143

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wild4 Couldn't be more true.

@charlesbrowning9748

2 жыл бұрын

no it's a testament to he arrogance and stupidity of the academy selection group.

@josephdale69

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wild4 This snub and Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction were the two worst snubs of that era.

@scootergeorge9576

2 жыл бұрын

Tommy Lee Jones 1994 Best Supporting Actor award for "The Fugitive" was not silly.

Val Kilmer not getting an OSCAR for his role as ''Doc Holiday'' in Tombstone was one of the biggest snubs in Academy Award history. As he was truly ''a daisy'' in that classic western movie. In fact, he's one of my all-time favorite characters in the movies.

@Wild4

5 жыл бұрын

Agree - he was stunning in the role 💪

@allenmartin6536

5 жыл бұрын

Are you guys on dope! That was one of the most pathetic, gayest portrayals of Doc Holiday I've ever seen. I'm sure the real Doc would have shot him.

@amberlilly4101

5 жыл бұрын

Greg, I agree with you, Kilmer was great! It is funny but I worked with someone who said Kilmer was not the person for Doc, I can't see anybody that would be better. She was the only one that thought that.

@amberlilly4101

5 жыл бұрын

@@allenmartin6536 BOOOOOO

@ericgill5039

5 жыл бұрын

Greg Ines I totally agree

Everyone gives accolades to Val Kilmer for the role as Doc Holliday. Watch Val Kilmers interview about the movie. He gives all the credit to Kurt Russell. When Russell took control of the movie directing, Val said he gave up lots of lines and out front appearances to make all the actors shine. Kurt deserves kudos for stepping back so Val and others shine. Very much selflessness on his part. That's one of the reasons I think it's the best Western ever produced.

@user-rq2cz2dl6y

8 ай бұрын

Not the best ever but definitely one of the best of all times in my humble opinion

@leapdrive

8 ай бұрын

@@user-rq2cz2dl6y, Clint Eastwood and Charles Brunson Western movies would be up there as well, and I’m not trying to diminish Tombstone.

Great performance by Kilmer. He actually looked sick and bad-assed. An excellent performance by all the cast. One of my favorite westerns.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

One of mine as well. So many great characters and great performances in this film!

@bolo2393

3 жыл бұрын

This is the only movie I can ignore all of the ridiculous stuff (no reloading, ect) and still enjoy the hell out of it.

@kanteannightmare

3 жыл бұрын

Ironic considering he sick he got in real life.

@anthonysisneros9501

2 жыл бұрын

Touche'

@wackjack5667

2 жыл бұрын

Judging by the fact that he was sweating throughout the whole movie I think it is evident that he indeed looked sick ASF.

Tombstone is an amazing film! Val Kilmer should have won the Oscar that year. It was one of the best performances of all time.

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Oh for sure

@greggblack8205

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely... brilliant role and how played out!

@robertoortiz447

5 жыл бұрын

He got robbed big time

@robertmacdonald6527

5 жыл бұрын

Given what kind of trash wins Oscars, I'd say an Oscar would be insulting

@amberlilly4101

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, he was great in this movie! It actually was an all star cast as far as I'm concerned!

"Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave"

@tango1706

3 жыл бұрын

They should have used "You look like a possum just walked over your grave" if they wanted to spin it really Southern.

@smsmoof8128

3 жыл бұрын

"I was just kidding Holiday ..." "I wasnt" Its on.

@everythingisvibration

3 жыл бұрын

Say When ,,,,,

@whynottalklikeapirat

3 жыл бұрын

You're no daisy. No daisy at all

@rudybigboote3883

3 жыл бұрын

That’s one of the coolest lines ever!

"You're no daisy." I was curious about this statement after seeing the film. I looked it up in a standard dictionary and it was simply defined as a species of flower etc. But, I had a really old dictionary that had belonged to my great grandmother and there I found the answer. The old dictionary started off with the flower definition, but it also had the slang definition. A "daisy" was a really good marksman. This expression died out, however, there was a make of air rifle made in the 1950's and '60's called the "Daisy." How many of you readers had or remember the Daisy air rifle? Now, how this expression "daisy" went from a flower to a deadly marksman, I don't know. You might have to go through dusty old books to find out. The usage of these two words -- and probably all the dialogue in this film -- shows what a really great script this was and one of Val Kilmer's greatest efforts.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

That's very insightful thanks for sharing. I think Doc Holiday my be one of Val Kilmer's best performances.

@jeremybrownfield9533

2 жыл бұрын

Daisy air rifles havent disappeared their everywhere

@luchadortacosmaine2826

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Love this fact!

@lanzm1521

2 жыл бұрын

"Pushing up daisies" still exists so I can see the correlation.

@alacran1986

2 жыл бұрын

Great find. Keep that old dictionary.

I'm not even a huge fan of westerns but this is one of my all time favourite films. Val Kilmer literally WAS Doc Holliday for me and acted everyone else off the screen (as brilliant as they all were).

I Love the quote at the end of this scene: "poor soul, he was just too high strung! The strain was more than he could bear."

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Oh my too. Such a great follow up to that moment 💪

@TheRevyr1666

5 жыл бұрын

What you don’t know is that he actually said this to him in real life. And is very well documented as both men were arrested outside of the saloon, as John was threatening Wyatt.

@amberlilly4101

5 жыл бұрын

This was actually one of my favorite quotes. Do you find that when you have a favorite movie you begin to use your favorite quotes your self. My husband and I love lonesome dove and we use those good quotes also. And, also UNFORGIVEN (that word is not in the dictionary.) "I RECON SO"

@Nikolai18A

5 жыл бұрын

This speaks to the historicity of events as officially documented (Ringgold's cause of death is officially listed as suicide) to the audience, while epitomizing Doc's wit, sarcasm, and modesty; as it appears he offers the narrative that Ringo shot himself to Wyatt, who comes running in after Ringo has already fallen, while obviously being facetious.

@warriorpoet8119

3 жыл бұрын

That was a nice line, loved it!

The most bad ass lines of any western. Val killed it in that movie. The tin cup holster routine in the bar was genius.

@oskaveli662

3 жыл бұрын

Most badass after this line: Josey Wales: "You a Bounty Hunter?" Bounty Hunter: "Man's gotta make a livin" Josey Wales: "Dying ain't much of a livin' boy" *Proceeds by killing the Bounty Hunter*

@johndirom8999

2 жыл бұрын

Nah...'skin that smoke wagon and see what happens...jerk that pistol and go to work...are you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed' three lines in the same scene, in the same movie, are more bad ass, imo

@RDGardea

Жыл бұрын

Tin cup was weighted with lead to facilitate the spinning.

Love the movie. Val's portrayal of Doc is forever etched as legendary in modern western movies.

The second time he said it Ringo still thought it was Wyatt so saying I’m your huckleberry was an impactful way of letting Ringo know it was Doc not Wyatt. Doc then refers back to when he said it the first time by saying “we started a game we didn’t finish”.

@DreamingDarlin

11 ай бұрын

That makes sense! I just watched that scene and didn't get it as it's been years since I saw the movie - love it!

@Kenobi_Cowboy

11 ай бұрын

The look on Ringo's face when he realizes it isn't Wyatt. Subtle but said a bunch.

@OverOnTheWildSide

11 ай бұрын

@@Kenobi_Cowboy it looked like someone had just walked over his grave.

I loved how Ringo went from being smug to being "oh shit, it's Holiday"

@drahculia3579

2 жыл бұрын

Doc told Wyatt that he couldn't beat Ringo in a pistol fight. Doc was confident in taking on Ringo. But, Curly Bill knew of Doc's rep (warned of it in the casino) and Curly Bill hauled/dragged Ringo away from a gunfight with Doc, fearing Ringo would get killed by Doc. When Ringo was 'showing off' in the casino, Doc was scoping him out, clocking Ringo's moves and reflexes. Ringo was confident to meet Wyatt Earp by the old oak tree for a pistol fight, but as much as he hated Doc, he was unsure he could beat him. While Doc had been confident when facing Ringo. When Ringo saw it was Doc (not Wyatt Earp) waiting at the old oak tree, he again lost his confidence. Doc was as condident as ever, knowing he could beat Ringo. Ringo could only summon his rage-hate, and duel with him. Doc quickly validated his reputation (and Wyatt Earp's assessment of him being the nerviest, fastest, most lethal gunfighter he'd ever known) and THEN put on a brief show of pistol spinning. Ringo was lots of pistol spinning bravodo, fast gun fighting, and lethal. Doc was faster and hence more lethal, yet more modest in his (also expert) pistol spinning.

@speedbird9313

Жыл бұрын

@@drahculia3579 Historically tho…😆🫢

@travisfinnerty156

Жыл бұрын

Doc would’ve dropped him right there in the street had the cowboys not held a drunken Ringo back- and would’ve still continued his shave afterwards. Doc was ready to go- at all times. 100% American bad ass.

@kylemichaelsen7374

Жыл бұрын

@Drahc Ulia It wasn't just confidence from Holiday, though clearly he was confident in his abilities. He was already dying, and thus had no fear of death. He wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, instead of simply wasting away, but he wasn't going to throw away his life, either. He only wanted to lose to somebody better or as good as he was. That's why he was yelling at Ringo to "come on" after he shot him, and was visibly upset that Ringo was "no daisy" and not as good as Doc hoped he was.

Im from Alabama. The term "I'm your huckleberry" is just like saying I'm your man for whatever you need. My grandparents and parents used it a lot in my youth.

@war13death

5 жыл бұрын

Charles Edmonds Thanks for the information.

@TheBelegur

5 жыл бұрын

I think you're right and that's just what he meant to say both times. The southern part of the USA speech has been influenced, more than people think, by old European ways of speaking. For anyone that doubts that I encourage them to look into the origin of the phrase "Y'all"

@markshelby7183

5 жыл бұрын

Same here, I was born and raised in LA, lower Arkansas. I'm your huckleberry means that I'm your man to get the job done. I'm a child of the early 60's, but was blessed to have my Great Grand Parents around for quite a spell. I learned so much history from them and I still love my history to this day. Thank you though for the video.

@paulcasey6759

5 жыл бұрын

There's the phrase "my huckleberry friend" from the evocative Moon River song in Breakfast At Tiffany's. Always wondered about that.

@addicted2baseballrgd21

5 жыл бұрын

The only time I heard the word was from the , the old cartoon "Huckleberry Hound"

Makes one wonder how knowledgeable the script writer was to even include those phrases in the movie's dialogue. Certainly added more authenticity.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely thanks for watching!

@RoguePhysicist

8 ай бұрын

Much of the movie was based on a 1927 book called "Tombstone : An Iliad of the Southwest", which itself, was not historically accurate regarding the events in Tombstone. In the book: ‘They say you’re the gamest man in the Earp crowd, Doc,’ Ringo said. ‘I don’t need but three feet to do my fighting. Here’s my handkerchief. Take hold.’ Holliday took a quick step toward him. ‘I’m your huckleberry, Ringo,’ replied the cheerful doctor. ‘That’s just my game.’ Holliday put out a hand and grasped the handkerchief. Both men reached for their six-shooters.

one of the better shows of our time. Well researched and well depicted. Kilmer's performance as Doc Holiday was captivating.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

My favorite Kilmer/Holliday lie: "Nonsense, I have not yet begun to defile myself"

@Wild4

5 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha - I totally love that line too 💪

@JCapJCrew

5 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. By all means, move.

@weswolever7477

5 жыл бұрын

Me when I’m out with my friend for an evening of whisky and cigars

@iceboxxer494

5 жыл бұрын

Max Brazil mines “im your huckleberry

@mrmurphy172

5 жыл бұрын

I will not be pawed at, thank you

Best Val Kilmer scene, by me, was his mock gunplay with his drinking cup; great tension, pure bravado. Both Kilmer and Michael Biehn aced their roles.

Appreciate your input on this. My take was that when Doc first said it to Ringo that he was telling him I’m your man and I’m ready to go now. In the gunfight scene towards the end of the movie, he repeats the line knowing Ringo would fully understand what was coming. Ringo initiated the fight to the death early on and Doc was there to give it to him. So the line is the same because it was the answer to his challenge and at the end, a reminder that Doc was there to fulfill it. Johnny wanted Wyatt because Wyatt wasn’t the killer that Doc was. Wyatt killed when he had to or was forced to. Doc was a killer and Curly Bill knew it, that’s why he stopped the drunken Ringo from fighting Doc earlier. Curly Bill needed Johnny and his skills to instill fear in the Cowboys and people in general. Once again, just my thoughts and I appreciate your information.

Every line he said was pure gold👍👍👍🌟

I thought exactly the same thing. Val Kilmer should have won an academy award for his portrayal of Doc Holliday. He stole the show! Can't understand the haters. He researched the role and worked with voice expert to get his speech correct, for a southern aristocrat from that time era.

@drahculia3579

2 жыл бұрын

And spent hours every day practising spinning that metal shot-cup!

We can close this case by just asking what Val Kilmer said about this in 2020: “By the way, despite some fans’ contention that in the 1800s the handles of caskets were called huckles and thus the word huckle bearer was a term for pall bearer, I do not say, ‘I’m your huckle bearer.’ I say, ‘I’m your huckleberry,’ connotating, ‘I’m your man. You’ve met your match.’” And then you can go over to the Idiom Channel on KZread and see what the experts there have to say about "huckle bearer" never even existing prior to about 1997-ish. It's never been found in any old text, newspaper, dictionary...nothing. Someone misheard it and made it up. There's not even any evidence that a "huckle" was ever a casket handle, either. Only old dictionary definition of that is "hip" or "bump". Nothing else.

In the late 1800s, to be a "huckleberry" is to be intelligent, courteous, & tough as a brick. As most slang, it had another meaning [in the earlier 1800s]; someone calling you a "huckleberry" was inferring that you are "wild, uncivilized, & open to mischief." Twain explains [the first meaning of] this word "as an idiom" in A Connecticut Yankee in Arthur's Court. The second meaning, Twain uses for Tom Sawyer's best friend HUCKLEBERRY Finn. In both books [Adventures of Tom Sawyer & Adventures of Huckleberry Finn], Huck embodies BOTH definitions. The second definition is further confirmed in Twain's autobiography as Huck Finn was modeled off a real person. Walter Noble Burns is the inventor of the Doc Holliday line that Kevin Jarre took from Burns' book, Tombstone (1927). There is no record or witness testimony of Holliday ever saying the line at Tombstone or elsewhere. I'm not implying your commentary is wrong in & of itself. Just adding that for a late 1800s Southern man OF CLASS being called "a huckleberry" was saying "He's a renaissance kinda guy". But for a Southerner of UNRULY BEHAVIOR, was saying, "he's the one you need to beat." Essentially as you revealed later on.

@Wild4

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Still cry when he dies in that film. Also when he explains Ringo to Wyatt; you can tell he's understanding Ringo because he relates. He was disappointed that Ringo wasn't a daisy because Doc hoped to die in a gunfight which is why he was the way he was, fearless. He didn't want to die in bed. That's why he says " This is funny" when he was laid up and no boots. He couldn't believe after all of the risky fights that the tuberculosis took him anyway. Poor Doc. I've seen it written that he WAS shaken after the OK Corral fight. Haven't been able to confirm.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Such depth in character and emotion. One of my favorite movies with some of my favorite characters ever. Thanks for sharing and for watching!

@louwilson0906

3 жыл бұрын

Real men will admit they were shaken or stressed out after a gun fight or full out gun battle with death and wounded and men moaning or screaming in pain with blood everywhere. Been there and done that with my 22 years military and 20 as a road cop. Got PTSD now, but dealing with it. Still like my guns and going out shooting with my grandkids and now my 5 year old great grandson. Taught them all how to shoot and its safety rules and liabilities. Anyway, after a mind numbing gun fight, the survivors go to the bar for several rounds of drinks, for real, Lol

@shayleeledevre6401

3 жыл бұрын

@@louwilson0906 I'm sorry you're living with PTSD. I am as well. Actually there are accounts that Doc was very shaken up after the OK Corral. Thank you for your service and sacrifice 🙏

@theresap2660

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@Bennevisie

3 жыл бұрын

@@louwilson0906 True. Good luck with the PTSD, and enjoy your well-deserved rest.

Interesting! The phrase is in the 1927 novel the film is based on. I had always associated the phrase with Tom Sawyers friend and companion, Huckleberry Finn as in "I'm your friend/playmate/guy/sidekick". Twain's novel was written just a few years before the gunfight at OK Corral so I presumed it was referencing Huck Finn's character. When was the phrase first used? Tom Sawyer was published in 1870. Perhaps Huck's name was inspired by the phrase...or vise versa? Are there any references prior to Tom Sawyer? I just looked at enotes which says Twain's Huckleberry suggested "...a lowly person of rustic origins, much like the fruit that resists cultivation."

@williambell2459

Жыл бұрын

I agree, i always assumed the Tom Sawyer meaning also. "I'm your Huckleberry, that's just my game!" Also, if you've read Twain/Sawyer it makes a lot more sense. As weren't they looking for "Huckleberries" as well? Time for me to read it again.

@stevesmith2171

8 ай бұрын

This dude's wrong as hell. It's a " huckle bearer ". A huckle is a coffin handle and huckle bearer is the the same thing as a pallbearer. A bur is a bur and a prickly thing.

Greatest line in any film: Doc(talking about Ringo) he wants revenge. Wyatt: Revenge for what.? Doc: for being born.

@juliao8428

2 жыл бұрын

The first time I saw "Tombstone" and heard this exchange, I said " . . . for being born" along with Doc. It was the only thing he could have said. What a great script. What great performances. What a great movie. I love it dearly.

The photo you have on the cover is NOT Doc Holliday. It is a photo of John Escapule who also lived in Tombstone. His descendants still live here. Also, the script from the movie "Tombstone" explicitly says, "Huckleberry". That is the context of Val Kilmer's line. I hope this is helpful.

I think he meant only 'I'm your Huckleberry ' in both scenes, meaning I'm your opponent, the one you're looking for -- first when Ringo is drunk and the cowboys drag him away, and finally when Doc substitutes for Earp in their shoot-out at the end. The history I've read is that Doc did say to Ringo, after the OK Corral shootout, when Ringo approached him drunk and angry, "I'm your Huckleberry. That's just my game" . However the shootout scene between them at the end was fictitious. It isn't likely that Doc killed Ringo.

Great research, thank you! (Noteworthy : Val Kilmer should have been nominated AND won for such an unforgettable performance. Period. )

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. And 100% yes, Val's performance was top-notch in this role. One of his many great roles 💪 - Thanks for watching.

@MAMRetro

5 жыл бұрын

He was totally ROBBED of an oscar. I mean hands down robbed.

@Tom-tk3du

3 жыл бұрын

The actor who played Johnny Ringo also deserves special mention. The contrast and similarity between Johnny Ringo and Doc Holiday greatly enhanced the drama. Both educated men, yet stone cold killers. The West was only big enough for one of them. Johnny Ringo was a worthy nemesis...and died with his boots on. Whereas Holiday did not.

@Snickelfritz_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tom-tk3du MIchael Biehn. Fantastic in that role. Not to mention Powers Boothe as Curly Bill. Bill Paxton as Morgan Earp, and of course the always wonderful Sam Elliot. Movie was filled with such great performances, no wonder it is a classic.

The better line was next. " Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave."

@joshuahoover6841

6 жыл бұрын

burnhippiesforfuel...I personally love It when he says - "say when..."

@JackHawk78

5 жыл бұрын

Fights not with you Holiday

@frangiscucustanza3442

5 жыл бұрын

Or when he invites ike to a spellin bee.

@bodyman6522

5 жыл бұрын

@@frangiscucustanza3442 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@stiks3538

5 жыл бұрын

"Its okay, i got two guns. One for each of ya!"

Tombstone's one of my favorite movies and I always wondered about those two lines. Understanding dated language adds so much to the movie, thanks a lot!!

Its "huckleberry" Doc's portrayal in Tombstone had little to no respect for Ringo, you can tell by their 1st encounter in the saloon.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite scenes. Thanks for watching!

@vortex_1336

3 жыл бұрын

Not true. He actually says that Ringo reminds him of himself. He was hoping that Ringo would kill him. Doc wanted to die in a duel. Not sick in bed.

@xXDDKJefferyXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@vortex_1336 excatly he had the utmost respect and at the same time the utmost contempt for Johnny Ringo

@hededcdn

2 жыл бұрын

He did mention he hated Ringo.

@15grneyes

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it hucklebearer?

"I'm your Huckleberry" basically mean "I'm the man you're looking for"

@josemeza7128

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it means I will make you famous.

@jpsandberg

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, the term was originally "I'm your huckle bearer"

@littlet-rex8839

3 жыл бұрын

It's odd the things a person says when they go "10 feet tall and bullet proof"

@jpsandberg

3 жыл бұрын

@Ravendarke 777 Why would I be kidding about something that is a fact? look up the term.

@josephcremeans

3 жыл бұрын

@@jpsandberg they are talking about the movie. And yes in the movie it means, = I'm the man you're looking for.

I whole-heartedly agree that this line is one of the most-badass lines in movie history. Great video!

@Wild4

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Val Kilmer fans. Check out his performance in a western called "Comanche Moon''. It's part of the 'Lonesome Dove' story and Val does a fantastic job in his role, as usual.

He said the phrase the same way again so Ringo would get the shock of knowing it was Holiday and this time there was no one to stop him.

@dumassme1

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to make the same point and then I read your comment. You put a perfectly no need for me to add on to it. You're 100% correct.

@rochelleneal5875

3 жыл бұрын

A call back to the first confrontation

Doc Holliday was a skilled dental surgeon who fixed Wyatt Earp's teeth. He also played classical piano. He was one of the first people to have a cleft surgery. "Doc", by Mary Doria Russell, is an excellent book.

This movie is historic. Right up there with The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, and Lonesome Dove. Valmer is the king! Always steals the show. All good wishes!

@DreamingDarlin

11 ай бұрын

Silverado too!

@geoffreylogsdon162

10 ай бұрын

Kil Valmer? 😅

I enjoyed both responses. Me myself, I did not know either, but being raised in Southeastern Louisiana, where Huckleberry bushes grow wild, I came to my conclusion that it meant, "Hey, if you want a fight, pick me.!"

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

That is a great interpretation thanks for sharing! Thanks for watching!

"Why, Johnny Tyler! You madcap!" Just cracks me up every time!

"You’re a daisy if you do!"

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha - Thanks for watching 💪

@MishaGerrick

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking of that scene. I think he said it to someone at the OK Corral. I think the guy said "I'll kill you" and Doc said "You're a daisy if you do." I.e. he WANTS someone to kill him because he didn't want to die of T.B. So when he says to Ringo "You're no daisy at all", it doesn't say anything about what Doc thinks of himself (in the movie, he doesn't think much of himself. See the discussion at Hooker's Ranch. He's talking about himself as much as Ringo there). "You're no daisy at all" is basically Doc's exclamation of disappointment at not being killed in the gun fight. That's why he kept shouting "COME ON!!!" at Ringo, trying to get him to shoot him. So "You're no daisy at all" is basically a 1800s version of "You SUCK, man."

@droboogie8465

3 жыл бұрын

@@MishaGerrick what a very insightful comment! I think you're right on target too. I was surprised to see your comment hadn't gained more accolades, not that they much matter to you I'm sure, but I also see how recently you shared your thoughts. Cheers😉

I came from a large family with many live e into their 90’s and 100’s. They had lots of old time sayings and phrases including that concerning huckleberries and daisies. The daisy meant youth and vitality. Huckleberry meant a special relationship existed.

Wow! I love the "I'm your huckleberry" explanation! It completely fits even.more and totally suits Doc to reiterate verbatim the "I'm your huckleberry" line, while the subtlety of hucklebur, was implied and played on. I just discovered Tombstone, and I couldn't be happier to have found such a great film. Videos like yours, gives this already great film even more depth. Thanks!!

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and sharing your input!

I've also heard the term Huckle-bearer because the individual handles on a coffin were called Huckles in those days.

@elizabethwhiteoak5291

4 жыл бұрын

Me too! In other words he was saying "I'll take you up on that .. and I will carry your coffin by the huckle and I will bury you!"

@jodyennis7602

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought he actually said huckle-bearer with his accent, then I started hearing people say huckleberry

@MissSunny1966

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It's what in hear!

@benboru9013

3 жыл бұрын

Its Huckleberry in the original script, and Kilmer also clarified it as Huckleberry. The term was used by Mark Twain, and was also said by Yancy Derringer in a 1959 episode. It's an old expression though not common anymore. But hucklebearer has been thrown around by Tombstone residents wanting to sound like they have the inside knowledge, but dont be duped.

@garycrandall8649

3 жыл бұрын

@@benboru9013 Thanks

Also, when they had shooting contests, often they had nothing for a prize, other than a daisy, which would go to the top shot. When they invented the BB Gun they tested it out at the factory, and someone remarked. "That's a real Daisy!" and the Daisy BB Gun was named.

I would bet that the "I'm your huckleberry/burr", being so similar had kind of a double entendre. Also, even if the "huckleburr" was originally thought of as the line, the second use of it refers back to the first. Whatever Doc meant in the second instance, he's completing the circle that began when their first confrontation was interrupted.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

I like this point of view thanks for sharing it.

@taoliu3949

2 жыл бұрын

He has already stated in his Memoir that he was just saying "Im your Huckleberry" in a Georgian accent, the expression meaning "I'm your man".

@FreedomLandscapeBend

2 жыл бұрын

HUCKLE (The handle on a casket) BEAROR (To carry)..... he said he was going to be the one to kill and carry his casket. Now you won't be able to unhear it

@SealofPerfection

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomLandscapeBend But it's still wrong. That term can't be found anywhere in literary history pre-2000's on the internet. It didn't exist. Someone who doesn't understand deep Southern accents made it up. And Val Kilmer himself has specifically stated he did NOT say that, he says he only said "Huckleberry"...which is the correct term and period-correct as well. It's also in the 1920's novel Tombstone, which is what the movie was based on.

This was delightful and as someone who admires knights and southern gentlemen, appreciate the derivation. Researching movie quotes brings history to life and adds another dimension to a modern venue. Thank you for that❣️Here’s one for you, if you are still seeking the meanings of phrases. The proof is not “in the pudding” but “The proof of the pudding, is in the eating”. Another way of saying “You can’t judge a book by it’s cover”. A pudding could come off the stove looking perfect but taste terrible when eaten and vice versa!

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the awesome comment

The line "I'm you Huckleberry" was spoken by actor Jock Mahoney in the role of Yancy Derringer in 1958 in the first episode of that series.

The second, "I'm your Huckleberry" is used as a taunt as well as telling Johnny with whom he was speaking. Doc was identifying himself in a way that Johnny would recognize.

New Sub! This was awesome content! There were so many great lines used in this movie and some of the simplest were the best “I Don’t” , “Say when” and “That’s Funny” were among some of the simplest “Rememberable lines” that hit hard! Kilmer was amazing!

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub! Glad you enjoyed the video!

Kurt Russel mustache deserves an Oscar..

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely!

@aliarshad3012

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree.

@MARK-dp1bw

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahhahhahaahaha NICE

@johnwurfel2862

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Still.

"I'm your huckleberry." said in that slow sexy drawl always makes me smile.

i always thought when DOC said "IM YOUR HUCKLEBERRY"..he was letting Ringo know...."i accept your challenge..kill me if you can"!!!!

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - that is one interpretation for sure - Like many words or phrases, they can mean different things or have multiple meanings in different regions or change over time. 💪

I agree 100 percent!!! He should have won an Oscar for sure!!!! That was the best part Val ever played!!!!

Many years ago I used to watch USA Tuesday Night Fights. There was a boxer who was from the southern U.S., who came out wearing a tee-shirt that said "I'm your huckleberry". He won the fight, so during the post-match interview the announcer asked him about the shirt. He said something to the effect that huckleberries have pointy leaves, branches or something that made them stick or cling to you and and made you itch. So being "your huckleberry" meant he was someone that was going to constantly irritate you and could not easily be shaken off or go away. I don't know if that is what is meant in the movie or if the boxer made it up, but it is always the way I've interpreted it since.

Even in the Latin sequence, Doc holiday says “its your funeral” which lends backup to your pall bearer idea.

@dittohead7044

3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense

i LOVE this movie!!!!! i live in an "Holliday-ian" old west tourist town, and spent 3 years researching Doc. Interestingly, he didn't kill Ringo. Some believe it was suicide, others believe it was another cowboy, but either way, it happened after Doc moved to Colorado. Damn, we have statues of Wyatt Earp but Doc was always more interesting to me. Maybe it was secretly Kilmer. 😉

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha - Thanks for the comment and sharing 💪

Doc Holliday was up for Ringo’s game. When he said I’m your Huckleberry. Awesome! Great Western and fantastically follows the original novels.

Actually, on pine box coffins, the carpenters would use huckleberry handles on the coffins. Then they would be removed before the box was lowered and used many times due to the hardness of huckleberry root and lead of the bush....so your right. When they stopped using h berry handles, a sprig was pinned on the pallbearer lapel in remembrance for tradition.

I always interpreted the "You're no daisy" line as revealing Doc's suppressed hope that someone would finally kill him and end his suffering. He knew he was dying, and wasn't looking forward to the process. So he kind of hoped Ringo would be the man to get the job done, and was therefore a bit disappointed when he failed.

@Wild4

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the interesting comment - I did a follow up to Daisy because it was so interesting. You might like it ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5uXk8echtyfkaw.html )

@ironpatriot7842

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting insight. I can see that.

@JJ_SDWR

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't Ringo threaten to kill Doc earlier in the film and Doc says "you'd be a daisy if you did."? In which case when Ringo eventually tried to kill Doc and failed, Doc remarked disappointedly that he was no daisy after all.

@yeolderooster8050

2 жыл бұрын

He did he had a death wish the sooner the better that's why he lived the way he did. When he says you're a daisy if you do it's from the meaning of daisy as a gentleman "you're a gentleman if you do"

@WALDENSOFTWARE

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeolderooster8050 He was like the guy in Lethal Weapon.

Good job. Thank you. I have watched that great film a dozen times at least, and the highlight clips from it many many more times. Mr Kilmer's memorable delivery made his intentions quite clear, however learning the specific history for the key words, huckleberry and daisy, has been most satisfying. Thanks again.

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching 💪

@jonalarcon8564

6 жыл бұрын

GCNavigator whatever do you mean?

Another great line from that scene: I'm afraid the strain was more than he could bare... Nobody knows for sure how Ringo died. But he was found by a tree dead from a shot to the head, and there are many who think it was self inflicted. Hence, that line hints at that possibility....

I just watched the movie Tombstone for the first time about 2 weeks ago. I was looking up what "I'm your Huckleberry" meant and I came across your video. Thank you for clarifying. Also the addition of the "You're no Daisy" verse as well.

I am from Georgia and have heard it said before that the final nail that seals a coffin is called the huckleberry. If that's a true saying, it fits in the seen in a very cool way. Has anyone else heard of this saying?

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Really - That is super interesting. I didn't see anything like that when I was digging through research. But I like that tid-bit, thanks for sharing 💪

@davidwilliams4837

5 жыл бұрын

I choose to believe this interpretation. Too badass to ignore.

@elizabethwhiteoak5291

4 жыл бұрын

No, I haven't heard of that that. But I do know that a huckle is a handle on a coffin, and Doc was actually saying, 'I'm your huckle bearer". In other words - "I will bury you" !!

@patrickburke9108

2 жыл бұрын

Kilmer puts to bed the Huckle Bearer rumor to hed in his memoir 'I'm Your Huckleberry'

Thank you for this information, my husband and I have watched tombstone many times, and love it. We love westerns in general this one is right up there with Lonesome Dove, in my opinion.

Huckleberry is a New World plant and would not have been known in "King Arthur's" time.

@randymoyer7871

3 жыл бұрын

@@RinoGato The European Blueberry or Hurtleberry did not come to be called Huckleberry until the mid seventeenth century. Long, long after what would have been "King Arthur's time."

Historically, there was no armed confrontation between Johnny Ringo and Doc Holiday. In reality, Johnny Ringo hired Briggs Goodrich, the first attorney in Tombstone, to go and tell the various factions that he, Johnny Ringo, did not want to be involved. He left Tombstone the day before the showdown in the OK Corral.

The movie Tombstone is my favorite movie and I loved Val Kilmer in it. I also love words and their meaning so your explanation of the terms "huckleberry" and "daisy" add to my enjoyment of the movie. Thank you very much.

Awesome! Tombstone was my fav and Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday was total badass and became one my fav actors...

Great info! In the final showdown where Johnny Ringo was to meet with Wyatt Earp, and assumed when he saw Doc in the shadows that he was Wyatt, Doc let Johnny know just who he was dealing with by announcing "I'm your huckleberry" and you cou look visibly tell it had shaken Johnny's confidence when he heard that phrase and Johnny appeared to want to back out, even though he knew it was too late for that. Great movie!

Love your videos, please keep up the fantastic work!!!..your videos of tombstone really got me involved in speaking Latin!!!.. thank you!

One of my top 10 favorite movies. My brothers and I say this line to each other often. I also was in Tombstone Az and got to see the reenactment of the shootout at the ok corral. That was cool!

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

That is awesome - It is easily one of my favorite films too 💪

SUBSCRIBED! This showed up on my recommended list, caught my attention and what the hell. I learnt sumthin. Keep up the good work.

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching 💪

Do you have any literary reference or link to anything from "back then" that shows the term "huckle bearer" or "burr", as you pronounce it, was even a real term? This debate has been going on the last 10 years, and I've yet to find it be used as a real term. I get that some say it refers to the handles on the casket being called "huckles", but to say someone was a "huckle bearer" would literally mean they were a "handle carrier". Which makes no sense. A "pall" is a blanket or sheet draped over the casket, so if you're bearing the casket, you're also bearing the pall, so it's obvious where that came from. And we know "huckleberry" is a real term that was used and historically accurate, and we know the "Play for blood" scene is in the 1920's Walter Burns novel about Tombstone, and Doc's line is in the book, word-for-word. "I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game" So whether that's what was said in the movie is not in debate at all, as you mentioned. Val Kilmer has even confirmed this and specifically said he did NOT say "bearer". I would simply love to see any proof at all that "huckle bearer" was even a real term from that time. I've yet to see any reference to that term from literature back then. I've looked through old dictionaries that are online from the late 1800's to the early 1900's and find no reference to it at all. I now believe that the term was simply made up on the internet in the 2000's by someone who didn't understand Doc's deep Southern drawl when he said "Huckleberry".

Thank you for the info. I was just about to look into that myself but you saved me who knows how much time.

I don't know how he's doing with his health. Haven't heard anything lately..... but i sure hope he knows how much we appreciated his acting....... Such an amazing actor! Also liked Ghosts in the Darkness !!!

@kato64

3 жыл бұрын

The surgeries he had, after being diagnosed with throat cancer, have left him barely able to speak. It is very sad. Pretty sure his days on the big screen are over.

Thanks for the knowledge, one of my all time favorite movies, so many great one liners!

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Mine too & thanks for watching 💪

In the Huckleberry family, many are edible and some are poisonous. It is very difficult to differentiate. So, when he states, "I'm your huckleberry," he is cautioning Ringo that you better be careful for what you wish for.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting interpretation I hadn't thought about it like this before.

@JL-fx5cm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wild4 Thanks for your response. Keep up the great work!

Outside of a few modern claims about huckle bearer I can not find any period sources for that phrase. However in the book by Walter Noble Burns Wyatt Earp says that Doc Holliday told Ringo in Tombstone "I'm your huckleberry. That's my game."

Thanks a lot. I would love to know if that had any significance. It seemed so deliberate...

I appreciate your explanation of the term "daisy" along with the "huckleberry" reference . Very cool.

@Wild4

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 💪

Great explanation for a scene that was not immediately evident.💯💯💯

I think the “daisy” in that he said, “your No Daisy” is it only took Doc ONE shot and lights out for ol’ Ringo, meaning, he wasn’t long lasting at all, absolutely no competition, like in a long lasting daisy in a Vase.

Loved all of Doc's lines, BUT when Wyatt shouts: "You tell him the Law's coming for him & hell's comin' with me. HELL'S COMIN' WITH ME!" - - gave me goose bumps & a shit eatin' grin on my face! 🤤😨😵

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

That is a great line too 💪

@stevesolo.

4 жыл бұрын

My shit eatin grin has never gone away since the first time I saw this magnificent film!!!.🌹✊🕊️🙏🇬🇧💎😎

@chaunapayne

3 жыл бұрын

I love when he slices his face with his spur!!! LET'S GO!!!!

It's an old southern saying, like "you're Daisy if ya do", or "I'm right right as the mail"

@tango1706

3 жыл бұрын

Yessir.

Thanks, mate. I really enjoyed learning that.I was intrigued. It's one of my favourite movies of all time.I still have the DVD and case. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍🏽

When I first saw the movie, I knew exactly what was being said... (Aaahhhemmm... I was wrong(?) ) In my fuzzy memory, I envisioned Tom Sawyer tricking Huckleberry Finn into whitewashing the fence -- with a little reverse psychology... explaining how enjoyable it was to perform such a craftsman-like job.., and that Huck wasn't able to appreciate the finer aspects of the "Art"... and succeeding in getting Huck to do the job for him, by appealing to his pride. --- And likewise, telling Ringo that he would step up and "do the job" that wasn't really what Ringo portrayed it to be... Oh, well... faulty memory and "a little knowledge..."

@Wild4

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for sharing!

LOL thanks for the video two badass lines

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 💪

Cool info.. Kilmer’s best role. I can’t imagine anyone ever topping his performance as Doc Holliday. He undoubtedly was Ringo’s huckleberry. What gets me in that scene was that little motion he did with his cigarette, after he shot him. Passing it under his nose.... Got me the very first time I saw it and every other of the dozen or so times I’ve seen it! Maybe you could find that out?

@Wild4

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah Val was the best pick for sure - I will have to take a look at what I can find for your question 😝

@rdwolf11b

6 жыл бұрын

I can. Randy Quaid's performance, by far, out classes Val's. I like Val, I really do and I love Tombstone. Yet, when I watch that story compared to the Wyatt Earp biopic,, there's no comparison. (Although, those two movies stand above all featuring those two, and that particular incident.) Quaid's mannerisms, voice tonality, body (reminiscent of a disease riddled human). Val didn't cough till towards the end of TS. W. Earp's, Holiday mostly coughed through each screen performance. I can go on and on. Again, I love both those movies and each has its strengths. Thanks.

@one-eyed-jaxbehind-the-duc9720

6 жыл бұрын

Actually it’s Dennis Quaid who played Doc Holliday in the movie Wyatt Earp, and yes. I agree it was a much more realistic portrayal.

@djohn3dddd841

6 жыл бұрын

Tony S A huckleberry is a bluebery according to the dictionary. A cockleburr is actually a"burr" that you would NOT want " under your saddle"...Huckleburr? I don't think so. The term expresses an irritant.Cockleburr is the proper term. I'm from Texas where cockleburrs get stuck in your sox if you walk thru the weeds without boots....

@tonys2705

6 жыл бұрын

djohn3d ddd Cool... Been to Texas many times. One of my favorite places.

There’s meme going around Facebook now that says: “In the early 1800s, the handle on a casket was a "huckle" The person that carried it was a "bearer" So what Doc Holliday said was, "I'll be your huckle bearer" Not huckleberry. We now call it a "pallbearer". So I had to research it and your video put me at ease, especially noting the script says “Huckleberry”. Thank you!

@SealofPerfection

Жыл бұрын

Theory is wrong, as you noted. A casket handle was NEVER called a "huckle", and therefore there was never any such term as "huckle bearer". And we could ask Val Kilmer what he thinks about it: "By the way, despite some fans’ contention that in the 1800s the handles of caskets were called huckles and thus the word huckle bearer was a term for pall bearer, I do not say “I’m your huckle bearer.” I say, “I’m your huckleberry,” connotating “I’m your man. You’ve met your match." Val Kilmer, August 2020

Doc Holiday had a dentist's office in Griffin Georgia and when I was growing up there was a pawn shop downstairs and for $5 you could go upstairs and see his dentist's office with all of his dental tools. Not sure if they were his tools, the chair was his I know, but the tools could have been from that time substituted to fill out the office.

@Wild4

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Even if they just made it up, and it was completely absent of history, when Doc said "I'm your huckleberry", that was just *COOL!* Who has never repeated that line (rhetorical)!

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely one of the coolest lines from one of the coolest characters!

In the film, Doc told Ringo to shoot Doc , saying, " You're a daisy if you do.". But poor Ringo, he was not a daisy with Doc's bullet in his brain. The strain was just too much for him.

@macnutz4206

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Phares there is a problem with that. Ringo was already a "daisy", by your take on this. He had a bullet in his head and was already a daisy if he managed to shoot Doc or if he didn't. As a threat, it would have been over the top silly. These kinds of expressions will take on different meanings in different places. I do not think your proposed meaning fits the movie circumstance, at all. That kind of slang almost always has multiple meanings. The term " bimbo" originally referred to useless aristocratic young men, not dumb blondes.

@firebomb5510

6 жыл бұрын

Macnutz420 .annnnnnnnd ....my ...take is also correct,,,,

@macnutz4206

6 жыл бұрын

I do not doubt that it is. These phrases take on numerous meanings. I am just talking about the context, in that movie.

@EBRoyJr

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, the line, "You're a daisy if you do," was delivered during the gunfight at the OK corral, not in the fight with Ringo.

@drwmstrd

6 жыл бұрын

poor soul.. he was too high strung

My recollection of Holliday's first uttering "I'm your huckleberry" occurred when Holliday confronted the cheap gambler whom Earp displaced from the saloon in Tombstone.

it actually comes from a Missouri newspaper that printed the poem in 1877 “Sweetheart of the Period,” which included the lines: I whispered, bending down my head, “Your lips are like a cherry;” She took my meaning - laughed and said, “Well, I’m your huckleberry.” The phrase doesn’t have anything to do with huckle bearers, pallbearers or carrying someone’s casket. Sorry to correct you but I am your huckleberry.

Great film all the way around. Hope Val can make a complete recovery, love to see him in film again.

@Wild4

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. He has some of my favorite performances!

"I'm your Huckleberry" means "pick me". When a gunslinger threatens a group, as in the movie, Doc is merely saying if you want to see who's the best, pick me and I'll show you. Doc repeats the line to frighten Johnny Ringo when he,(Doc) instead of Wyatt, shows up for the duel scene.(Ringo wasn't afraid of Wyatt but feared Doc something terrible) "You're no Daisy" refers to the fact that Ringo could not survive the shot to his skull in the way that a daisy(the flower) could survive for a good while after being cut. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

@alexanderdean8682

2 жыл бұрын

First, Doc is not a guy who would desperately say " Pick me!" because he wants to show off, also, surviving gunshot wound in the head bears no comparison to daisies surviving in the vase - it's the most ridiculous idea ever. The guy in the video already explains it perfectly, your comment is absolutely unnecessary, and something like a moron could come up with. Your story means nothing, because it just makes no sense.

@feloniouscraphammer

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderdean8682 I didn't mean to light the fuse on your tampon, but only a "moron" would take the opinion of a KZreadr as fact. Remember, Tombstone was a great movie full of historical inaccuracies and guesswork. If you don't like my opinion, just reply with something "ridiculous" and stupid. Wait...you did that already.

@NotMykl

2 жыл бұрын

@@feloniouscraphammer "I didn't mean to light the fuse on your tampon" - what a sick misogynist thing to say. Pull up your big boy panties and grow the fuck up.

@feloniouscraphammer

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotMykl Save your estrogen cannon for someone who cares about your feelings. "You're about as useless as a cock flavored lollipop." That's a line from another movie that fits you well. You're welcome.

@henryrogers5500

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting detail in the movie where Doc shoots Ringo in his forehead and immediately afterwards, Ringo begins to cough and gasp for air, clearly indicating that the bullet must have disabled an area in the brain that controls one’s ability to breathe and take-in oxygen. Looks like a terrifying way to die!

Thanks 😊 really enjoyed this

So appreciate the explanation!