That's nothing. I saw an elephant on a zoo billboard. I heard he got paid peanuts.

@FrancieNolan

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it 😂

@КГБКолДжорджКостанца

Жыл бұрын

xD

@matthewedwards3094

Жыл бұрын

But was he told he was going to be on a billboard?

@gridlo

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewedwards3094 it was in the contract. If he didn't read it, that's on him.

@tomb9484

Жыл бұрын

Yea, but this was his second shoot. The first time the contract says "peanuts" and all he got were those crappy marshmallow "Circus Peanuts". He learned a lesson an insisted on "REAL peanuts" this time. You listening Allyson?

So you read "All Media", assumed it meant only Social Media, then did the shoot, and are now assuming the ad agency acted in bad faith? Seems like the bad choices were all on your end.

I was in a similar situation. I was offered a job at McDonalds for $10 an hour. After working a week I checked out my first paycheck, those bastards only paid me $10 an hour. I couldn't believe it.

@КГБКолДжорджКостанца

Жыл бұрын

that is abut as okay average pay in russia, and McDs left months ago

@Conssumed

Жыл бұрын

Maccas wage thief is going on everywhere so yea you probably got paid that slave wage for half the hours you did

@BrainBurnStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца IDK if you're joking or not, but that is not even close to the truth

@КГБКолДжорджКостанца

Жыл бұрын

@@BrainBurnStudios you're from Estonia....truth has never come out from an estonian's mouth, only worms

@coyotejohenson7245

Жыл бұрын

​@@КГБКолДжорджКостанцаRussia. Because where else in the world could f**k up something as simple as having McDonalds?

You're right, "Generic Mom" for a zoo advert should be worth millions, at least.

@sf1203

Жыл бұрын

I have a friend who made 29 million dollars for being a generic dad on an auto repair billboard.

@davidfonoimoana4867

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@sf1203 I would’ve done it for $28 million lol

@ChrisOzar

Жыл бұрын

@@sf1203 yeah me too.. made $2 Billion dollars for being in the local grocery store.

@eartho

Жыл бұрын

@@sf1203 and i have a friend who is the ruler of the galaxy and has 14 quadrillion dollars!!!!

@sf1203

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisOzar That's awesome man!

I made it here from r/cringe and i wasn't disappointed

@drumsnbikes

Жыл бұрын

It may also appear in r/entitledbitch in the future

@jameswhite6612

Жыл бұрын

lol same

@adv6230

Жыл бұрын

Same, but honestly I agree with her. This isn't a matter of 'I'm too good for you', this is a case of be paid fairly.

@freezingmoon8234

Жыл бұрын

​@@adv6230 then why accepting the contract in the first place? The contract literally said "all media". And then when the pictures is used for *all media* she upset about it?

@JasiasR-ss5qm

11 ай бұрын

@@adv6230 don't be an idiot

Lmao you made an incorrect assumption about "all media" and are mad at them for it? You only have yourself to be mad at for not properly understanding the job before you took it

@cinemasebas

Жыл бұрын

She's upset because the job posting was too vague and they tried to be sneaky about it by not paying her properly. She's also upset with the mere idea that these big agencies underpay talent. Which is true, only union gets to fight for their rights, but any creative/talent should fight regardless of being in a union or not

@iancanon8648

Жыл бұрын

@@cinemasebas They were not vague. They said "all media." That means they can use your photos for ALL MEDIA. Anything. Billboards, social media, commercials, whatever. She agreed to all media. She made the mistake. No one did anything wrong here except her, for misinterpreting an ad, then being told exactly what is for, then agreeing to do still do it, THEN being mad about it.

@DwayneHoover94

Жыл бұрын

She made an incorrect assumption, was clearly corrected on the incorrect assumption according to her OWN retelling, and continued to go through with it. I love it.

@tomb9484

Жыл бұрын

@@cinemasebas What is vague about "all media"? This is gaslighting at it's most extreme.

This has big time "Main Character" energy. You made a mistake by not being fully aware of the nature of the work you agreed to. It's ok. Everyone does it. However, ya gotta own up to your mistakes and acknowledge your shortcomings. Use it as an opportunity to make new connections and build new relationships to book better gigs in the future. Instead, you chose to be prideful and burn literally every bridge you've ever crossed. Unfortunately, because of the whole "main character" thing, you'll probably just view this as you being the victim and this comment as some sort of attack. Which it's not. Just hoping to provide constructive feedback. I wish you lots of personal growth and reflection.

@reptar69

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could word my sentences as well as you..

After you said you had been in the industry for 10 years and then said you read “all media” you lost me. Seems like you should have known all media means….. ALL MEDIA 😂

"All Media" God I wonder what could mean? Better complain about it.

@itjustyouraveragecanadian9604

Жыл бұрын

All media is so vague though!

@samanthasamsimpson7201

Жыл бұрын

​@@itjustyouraveragecanadian9604 How is it vague? Just think abt anything and If It's considered media that's included as well lol

@itjustyouraveragecanadian9604

Жыл бұрын

@@samanthasamsimpson7201 my comment is sarcasm

A few hundred bucks to get some photos taken? Fuck my job, sign me up. Put me on billboards, surfboards, I dont care.

@vortexraa

9 ай бұрын

Fr

Since when does what you thought mean anything? That’s why you sign a contract that specifies the terms. I “thought” you were supposed to know that? I think the bigger thing would be to accetpt responsibility for your actions. Could be a good learning experience.

TBH, if she wasn't wearing the same exact outfit as she was when she took the picture in the billboard, I would have no clue it was the same person. Attitude's like this person's is why most, if not all, marketing is going to be AI-generated soon.

You signed a contract saying all media. You knew it was for billboards and you still did it. Stop crying and enjoy your pay for doing absolutely nothing.

I wish you listed the ad agency, whom you feel slighted by, instead of the zoo, who didn't know what was going on. I'm also guessing the zoo didn't have the funds to go all out for what you think you're worth and they would have had family in the ads had they realized it would be such a ruckus. If you feel your image deserves more, go for it, but the zoo wasn't trying to be manipulative. If you were that upset, take it out on the agency.

A few points here: 1) it is a local market billboard and you were used on how many? One? 2) Zoos typically operate at a loss and their marketing budget is quite small 3) YOU signed a contract that read "All media". No one held a gun to your head to sign it. All being said, maybe you should have been paid a little more, I don't really know. But the fault is entirely yours. Also never wear that shirt again, throw it in the trash.

You didn't understand that all media means all media. You even asked and got your answer. Yet you still went through with the photoshoot. Instead of learning and growing from the experience to improve your self, you do this. Lol

@stevencarney7124

11 ай бұрын

Definitely not defending her but let's just let hope she is just taking a step back before she moves forward.

Well, this is why you read your contracts carefully, and this is why you also educate yourself on what the definition of media is.

@matthewedwards3094

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget to learn the definition of "All" as well

@Nini-wx1fo

Жыл бұрын

​@@matthewedwards3094 😂😂😂

"Good talent" lol - Read the contract next time.

You took the job after finding out it was for a billboard and you're mad at who ?

You really have no one to be upset with but yourself. Just take this as a lesson for next time, "all media" means all media.

So your advice is to do research before taking a job? Whoa, what a new concept! Haha come on, lady.

@spencer4329

Жыл бұрын

Barbie out here making break through revelations about business and the world of monies

@Croach193

Жыл бұрын

Discount Dollar Story Bargain Bin Barbie, without the brain.

Bless your heart...

@coyotejohenson7245

Жыл бұрын

...and understand what ALL MEDIA means

It said ALL MEDIA. This is your own fault

"All media" means...all media that can be used for advertising. If this was a commercial, I'd side with you. But this is a billboard.....

Maybe read your contracts thoroughly next time

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the term "all media"? Does than only mean "some media"? Or does that mean "all media"? It's so confusing and vague. I feel like if the mean "all media" they should be legally required to say "all media" and not just mention "all media" in the contract. I support the talent and definitely feel like if they mean all of something they should be legally required to say all of something and not just say something else that's exactly the same thing.

@tomb9484

Жыл бұрын

Absolute poetry!

@r.jamesfaurote1690

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

When youblet the shutter click, it was too late. Shoulda walked or accepted the results.

Please do not speak for the other 15 models. I’m sure they don’t want any part of this.

Why would a shoot for "social media" (ALL of social media) be cheaper than six measly billboards? That makes no sense. Social media covers a lot more that those six boards. On top of everything else, your logic is faulty.

How much *SHOULD* U have been paid den?

ayy Allison Burgers from The Dictator

This is incredibly common on non union shoots these days. Advertisers ask for complete buyouts for a low number. You're either non union, or ficore. Either one, you know the inherent risk of doing low budget that you agree to, or accept yourself. If your agent was involved, then it's strange that the agent didn't ask about usage. I'm a EP/Line producer. In these situations, I try and get more money for the buyout, and limit the usage once I ask the clients how long the campaign will run. If the client wants in perpetuity, again, I try and up the rate, but I also limit usage to 2 years with a re-negotiation clause. Agency producers don't usually do this because they just want to make their client happy. They're also adding a % profit onto any costs, so they also don't care... The short answer is, never agree to a fee without knowing usage. Don't show up to a gig, and not know usage. IF you show up and then walk away, you certainly are within your rights to do that, but it makes you look bad. You've agreed to the rate, the time and the shoot. You've made a commitment. Regardless of the terms, you're now going to put that shoot in a bind, and scampering for talent to replace you, and that's all they'll remember. She took the gig, tried to strong arm us, and when she couldn't, she bailed. Out her on the do not hire list... You'll stay on that list regardless of good job or bad job and the folks on that shoot - ad agency, production company, photographer, end client - will now all avoid you because you didn't take the time to clear all details before you showed up. Do not show up for shit gigs you don't want. I cast off FB all the time for low rate gigs, and I'm explicit about rate, usage, etc. I answer any questions with details. People still show up for a few hours of work on a Wednesday for a couple hundred bucks - because it's not for me to decide if you feel like making $200 on a Wednesday for getting in front of a camera. If you do, great. If you don't, I totally understand and don't blame you for not wanting to take the gig. I'll keep you on my list. This is how freelance, non union talent works. It's your choice. No one is forcing you to do anything.

@TheDukeofDavid

Жыл бұрын

Shes been in the business for a decade she doesn't need your help

@stevencarney7124

11 ай бұрын

@@TheDukeofDavid In all seriousness, maybe she does? She doesn't know what the word "All" means.

You should fire your agent. This is their job. But a little due diligence next time.

Seems like u failed school and don’t realize what all media means, lol

It was a sketch contract that did not include specifics. I feel that you and the other models were certainly taken advantage of by both parties. I am a wedding photographer and I have to lay out everything for my clients because they insist on it and it's the ethical thing to do. Sorry you were had by those money grabbers.

@freezingmoon8234

Жыл бұрын

How is it considered sketchy when the contract literally said "ALL MEDIA"?

@matthewedwards3094

Жыл бұрын

Comparing your job to her situation is like comparing apples and oranges.

@tomb9484

Жыл бұрын

How about this "I see this says "All Media", what do you mean by that? All online media, social media, billboards? You lay out everything becuase people "insist on it". Maybe she should have "insisted" on an clarificaiton

@jharrelson

Жыл бұрын

@@tomb9484 Billboards are a very archaic form of advertisement. Would you consider a billboard to be media as most understand it? How can you roll billboard into the meaning of "media" when most people don't associate the two? If I ask my client to use a photo in media then throw their tender wedding photo on a billboard for a few months I would be deceiving them or defrauding their representation. It's legal but not ethical.

@jharrelson

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewedwards3094 Your comment is good case of bad reframe.

why is everyone in the comments talking like they know anything about the ad modeling business? why not listen to the professional? is it because she's a woman? its because shes a woman isnt it?

@jaspwetering2528

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but not just any woman. It's because she was a woman who was fully informed that the shoot was for a series of billboards. And aren't those exactly the type of women who are too often taken advantage of?

@bistroclancy8876

Жыл бұрын

@jaspwetering oh and its so easy to just say no? shes admitting she let herself get taken advantage of when she did the shoot but shes trying to raise awareness for other models, whats the issue with that? She says she was trying to keep her agency in mind and didnt want to hurt their reputation, isnt that completely reasonable? If someone was trying to raise awareness about a scam that they fell for, would you take their advice or ignore them because "they're an idiot that fell for a scam"? As someone who is extremely afraid of confrontation irl, i really sympathize with her, i wouldnt be able to say no either if i was on set with makeup on

@tomb9484

Жыл бұрын

@@bistroclancy8876 Clancy, what does "all media" mean?

@narusuke413

Жыл бұрын

​@@bistroclancy8876 my man, that's a horrible analogy. A scam is actively setting you up to be deceived. She knew exactly what she was getting herself into and still chose to do it. Also who the hell is suppose to take someone serious who's purposely letting themselves be taken advantage of? Do you not see the stupidity in that?

@gump5ter01

Жыл бұрын

She’s not gonna touch your pee pee mate. No one is talking like they know the business. Everyone is taking her exact Words and pointing out how insane it is that she thinks she needs to stand up for people in the industry.

Good on you Allyson!

@Leleche

Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅

@stevencarney7124

11 ай бұрын

Yeah for being in a business for 10 years and not knowing that a billboard would be considered "Media."

never understood why giant corporations and agencies are so damn greedy, like, they're making A LOT of money off of this and can't pay talent enough? the nerve of him to say "oh getting this type of talent for cheap"

@skeen0076

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes the big corporate giant known as… *checks notes*… the zoo.

@cinemasebas

Жыл бұрын

@@skeen0076 you think the zoo isn’t a big company? are they small entrepreneurs?

@skeen0076

Жыл бұрын

@@cinemasebas oh I’m with ya. Zoos are famously rolling in dough. That’s why they all ask for donations for conservation efforts. Goddamn fat cats (literally).

@johnwatkins7382

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they have a somewhat limited marketing budget.

@mikerhoa

Жыл бұрын

​@@cinemasebas Is this a serious question? Just what kind of advertising budget do you think a city zoo has, especially post COVID? Almost every penny of their revenue goes into operating costs, and most of them have to rely on private donors and subsidies to stay afloat.

good for you, shout to the rooftops. I agree, it's a shame.

@coyotejohenson7245

Жыл бұрын

Why?

How do you work in the industry and not know what "media" is?