I'm DONE with Dragonflight, And That's GREAT!

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So its been a few months since Dragonflight dropped and we finally have some idea how the expansion is shaping up so far. But in a surprise turn of events not only do we have a roadmap, but also a trading post for cosmetics in an approach similar (but not like) a battlepass. Mike also talks his feelings on the Vault of Incarnates raid and the current issues with gear aquisition.
00:00 - Intro & Trading Post
04:30 - 'Done' with Dragonflight & Raid
09:00 - The Problem with Gear
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  • @Preachgaming
    @Preachgaming Жыл бұрын

    While we are heavily focused on other MMOs at the moment - Mike wanted to drop in with his thoughts on the expansion thus far and the Seasonal nature of it, as well as his impressions of the Trading Post and gear crafting. How are you finding the expansion so far?

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    still feeling it the way i was when it launched, love Dragonflight and cant wait to see what Season 2 has in store.

  • @AdamXA

    @AdamXA

    Жыл бұрын

    played every other WoW expansion apart from this one, I guess SL made me realise that the game isn't the same game for me as it was all them years ago :D been trying out some new games for once

  • @dillyduncs
    @dillyduncs Жыл бұрын

    This sentiment is, by far, the healthiest place for an MMO to be. Mechanics to retain people by force only hurt the game; allowing people to finish in the short term and come back fresh is great, without leaving people feeling resentment toward the game for wasting their time.

  • @TonyManfredoniaMusic

    @TonyManfredoniaMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes yes and yes!

  • @ChoperJoJo

    @ChoperJoJo

    Жыл бұрын

    the problem is that the game ask for a monthly fee which is annoyhing. It makes me feel like I MUST play, otherwise i'd be throwing my money for nothing. That's why i stopped playing a year ago and moved to guild wars 2 again

  • @jayhsyn

    @jayhsyn

    Жыл бұрын

    I was a long time player and was pretty hard core, the last expansion I played and enjoyed was mists of pandaria, I then quit with the following expansion I think BFA if i remember correctly. My question is, is it worth coming back now ? Have they improved the game ? Or is it just a boring repetitive grind fest? Thanks in advance.

  • @vanyel_etc8695

    @vanyel_etc8695

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayhsynthat's not for anyone but you to decide

  • @Weslicus
    @Weslicus Жыл бұрын

    Mike starts playing wow again and his hair starts going again. You got to stop before it’s too late my man.

  • @Digitalcanvas77

    @Digitalcanvas77

    Жыл бұрын

    LMFAO. Now that you mentioned…

  • @PrinceDoobie

    @PrinceDoobie

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally not the stress of having his whole office under water right after they finished getting settled in

  • @spencerrex7531

    @spencerrex7531

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PrinceDoobie honestly that was such a huge bummer. I hope everything is going well for them now

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    oh yeah, totally couldnt be his age, genetics or the stress of running a business, it's all WoW's fault. to quote one Dr. Gregory House; "it's never lupus..."

  • @SwiftDurka

    @SwiftDurka

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UltimateGamerCC could be any or all of those things, but leaning on the original joke....it's all wows fault!

  • @Xo1ot1
    @Xo1ot1 Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't mind them adding activities outside the location of the current expansion at all. In fact, the Trading Post seems like the perfect fit for that, because it's optional/cosmetic stuff.

  • @UziiTube
    @UziiTube Жыл бұрын

    feels great knowing I can feel "done" without feeling like I'm falling behind. And I can come back and pick it up right away. And level up an alt and quickly reach a similar power level to my main. Dragonflight is a great expansion.

  • @Flirt136

    @Flirt136

    Жыл бұрын

    Feel pretty much the same. And then you go on the forums and people are saying Shadowlands amd BFA were better expansions xD

  • @jakubpelikan2393

    @jakubpelikan2393

    Жыл бұрын

    So basivcaly you just wasting time actualy playing becouse everything you did and do will be erased in few months.

  • @Flirt136

    @Flirt136

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakubpelikan2393 My guy, every single game is technically a waste of time and pixels on a screen so go away with your "clever" argument

  • @UziiTube

    @UziiTube

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakubpelikan2393 if I'm having fun, it's not a waste of time

  • @Valvad0ss

    @Valvad0ss

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakubpelikan2393 lmfaoo you have the absolute worst takes I’ve ever read. Worse than Narcs takes. Go outside. Gatekeeping video games is beyond sad

  • @mobius4247
    @mobius4247 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, fantastic content, love it all. As a 6/8 M progger currently who has never loved M+, I think they've improved some and have more room to improve. The 10 16's or higher per crafted piece is kind of odd since you only need 8 for vault maximization weekly (and I think that's too high tbh, should be 2, 4, 6 IMO, not 2,4,8). BUT I do like how there is a push to do something more than x number of 15 keys. I took a break from WoW after progging SLG Mythic in Nathria and I only ever did 15's to get my vault done - and the current M+ - Raid tie-ins are LEAPS and bounds above where they used to be. Plus there's an incentive to go above a 15, which I always thought was insanity (you want me to do +30% more dps/healing/tanking per key?!) but is not that bad in appropriate gear and with people who do mechanics/kicks correctly on at least the easiest dungeons and affixes - still more work to do here. Anyways. great content, and I'm very much looking forward to your takes on the rest of so-called Project MMO!

  • @Mosan13
    @Mosan13 Жыл бұрын

    I got my Rogue main up to 411, and Keystone Hero. I'm at a point with my rogue where I feel like I'm happy with my progression and can relax on that character. I may pop in to do high keys or whatever, I would like to work on getting all 20s done for the teleports, but now I'm refocusing on my main of 14 years of my paladin, especially since all the ret changes look awesome and I'm super happy that I can reasonably play an alt without having to grind up so much other bullshit.

  • @Pakulia
    @Pakulia Жыл бұрын

    I fully agree! I've got my AOTC, maxed out renown and now it's like well, I guess I could focus on getting an alt up to the same level, and sometimes I do? But only when I want to. It's great! Yes I play less, but my love for the expansion is not gone. Now I look forward to new content without thinking OOOF. It's great! :D

  • @BuckScrotumn
    @BuckScrotumn Жыл бұрын

    I’ve honestly been doing exclusively PvP and I’ve been having a blast. I honestly like the solo shuffle feature a lot. It finally gave me a chance to push arena rating which is something I’ve wanted to do since I was a kid but I just don’t like committing to a team. Finally got the 1800 transmog and it feels so good.

  • @Connor-zw6gz

    @Connor-zw6gz

    Жыл бұрын

    What is the solo shuffle feature and how did it help you push rating? Sorry i havent played in awhile but curious!

  • @BuckScrotumn

    @BuckScrotumn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Connor-zw6gz you can queue for rated arena by yourself, and everyone on your team and the enemy team is also by themselves. This means you can push rating without having to communicate with teammates. You play 6 rounds of 3v3, after each round the players are shuffled around so you play a single round of every possible comp. Your rating goes up or down depending on how many games out of 6 you won. I love it because rather than relying on communication with your team and the team itself, you rely solely on yourself. And If you want to have an actual team there are separate brackets of 2v2 and 3v3 for that as well.

  • @IceTax69
    @IceTax69 Жыл бұрын

    Ive had quite bad luck with getting loot from raiding itself this raid tier, most of my gear has came from either mythic+ or the vault, but mainly myhic+. I like raiding but its hard to be motivated when i have to rely on the vault and mythic+ to provide me the gear to progress content that barely does. I usually burn out from the mythic+ grind, cuz its more tedious than fun and the whole deal just feels pointless after a while since id spend more time doing something that i dont enjoy but is required for something i do enjoy.

  • @thedarkfox9851
    @thedarkfox9851 Жыл бұрын

    I've stopped playing about a month ago. Quit as soon as I started feeling bad about logging in every day. And just for that reason I will have Dragonflight in my memory as one of the best Expansions because I didn't burn myself out on it.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    sounds reasonable to me, gonna be back in season 2?

  • @thedarkfox9851

    @thedarkfox9851

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UltimateGamerCC Maybe, still got alot of Games I want to play and I want to catch up on FF14's last patch aswell.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thedarkfox9851 fair enough.

  • @brixidarc5427
    @brixidarc5427 Жыл бұрын

    It's good that people enjoy DF and I hope it stays that way. I looked into it for 30 days and I realised I had moved on after my break of one and a half years. I had a lot of fun and met amazing people during my time in WoW. Those memories will stay with me.

  • @Pelagion98

    @Pelagion98

    Жыл бұрын

    Kind of same. I got the WoW itch when DF started and I heard good things about it, but I played for a bit over a month and realized the love is no longer there. My connection to the world and the lore has been cut. Probably irreparably. And I feel I can move on now. But who knows. Maybe a bunch of retcons, a new owner or a new development team could bring me back one day.

  • @OldManInternet

    @OldManInternet

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I enjoyed Dragonflight more than recent expansions. But after playing around in my first month, I didn't feel much drive to keep going. But I didn't walk away angry like I have in the past. I just don't want to play more of it. Maybe they do something cool with a patch or something, but if not, I feel a lot better walking away from the game now than I did after Korthia.

  • @Mythricia1988

    @Mythricia1988

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. Also dipped in for one month - still got 5 days left... Capped my main character. Gameplay is good, content seems good, it gave the impression of being the game I used to love. But the magic just isn't there for me anymore - it took too long.

  • @Rhob81

    @Rhob81

    Жыл бұрын

    I got exactly the same feelings, I hope people that enjoy it keep doing it and I really wish WoW to succeed but it's no longer for me. I moved on for good in 9.1 and found a new home in XIV. I might be too old but I enjoy a good slow paced story and side activities more than spamming M+ and raid every day.

  • @adolfdassler7857

    @adolfdassler7857

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Rhob81 ff xiv is shit and looks shit. Even gw2 looks more appealing

  • @Centripital1
    @Centripital1 Жыл бұрын

    Agreed with the spark upgrades from m+! I would have loved to see something to the tune of "Upgrade your spark crafted gear to 418, and it costs 150 shards" And you earn 1 shard per dungeon difficulty. If you're not a good player and you can only complete +2,s you're earning 2 shards per dungeon - you can still eventualy get the upgrade but it will take time. If you can crank through 15s, you'll get 15 shards per dungeon so it takes 10 dungeons to get the shards for the upgrade. A happy balance between skill and time invested is to reward the same currency but substantially different quantities.

  • @eppattv
    @eppattv Жыл бұрын

    You look so happy Preach, glad to see that! :D

  • @gearzdesign
    @gearzdesign Жыл бұрын

    I hit level 70 on a few classes and I feel no need to do any mythic, raiding or anything with those characters. It's getting to be a chore to level the other classes now, I think dragon flight is an improvement, but feels hollow as an expansion.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    i dont think that's the expansion's fault, that is blizzard still expecting so much repetition and it's going against the vibe that Dragonflight is bringing.

  • @leonardceres9061
    @leonardceres9061 Жыл бұрын

    For me, the trading post was super easy to fill up. I didn’t know current content and just some legacy dungeons may be a couple odd groups, and then just bouncing around on my various different characters and when I checked the live with complete and I was like oh wow I don’t even know what I did, but I guess I did it.

  • @Mythricia1988
    @Mythricia1988 Жыл бұрын

    It took so long to get back to this version of the game, where you can feel "done" with current content. It took so long that I quit and lost interest, and don't really feel like getting back into it now even though it seems really good. Just took way too many years & expansions to get back to it.

  • @TheN3llee
    @TheN3llee Жыл бұрын

    Its funny you posted this today. After Tues NA reset I logged in and said "why"? I have full 418 heroic gear, A Head of the Curve, (not a mythic raider) and now I am felt like I completed everything I wanted to for the time being. I also completed the post. So I logged off.

  • @StoovTV
    @StoovTV Жыл бұрын

    Nothing wrong with being "done" in an MMO. I'm glad WoW has done that and has shown a design change for sure. I guess for me I don't only do M+ so its not too hard for me to get experience for the catalyst. World boss gives 20%, big events such as the feast and dragonkeep give a lot too.

  • @HH-hd7nd

    @HH-hd7nd

    Жыл бұрын

    He's not talking about the catalyst, he's talking about the primordial stuff you need for upgrading crafted gear.

  • @StoovTV

    @StoovTV

    Жыл бұрын

    you are right, i rewatched that part and mis-heard. Probably threw me off due to him saying "weekly" i mean why would he have to do 10 M+ a week just incase he gets another spark. The point being i'm glad he's found himself in a happy and healthy spot with the game

  • @JefferyBlue
    @JefferyBlue Жыл бұрын

    I refuse to beat my head against m+.

  • @asyme9717
    @asyme9717 Жыл бұрын

    Nice vid. Just quick reaction to one small thing. You love crafting. I... still have no idea how it works. I find it confusing, messy and I just don't understand what any of the numerous items in my bags do. It feels like it was designed to be deliberately confusing and demand an excel spreadsheet. Also, it seems to need mythic+ which I've deliberately stopped doing last expansion when I realized I hated it.

  • @sere971

    @sere971

    Жыл бұрын

    M+ definitely helps but it's by no means required-- you can also get the upgrade items from raid (heroic for the 405s, mythic for the 418s), but you can also just get up to 392 crafted gear without doing any of that and just making your sparks of ingenuity into the base items. The main issue is that there's just not really anything outside of M+/raid that lets you progress it. I mean you can get 4 of the heroic raid/405 ilvl upgrade items from getting max rep with all the factions but otherwise there's nothing.

  • @marxman6896

    @marxman6896

    Жыл бұрын

    I was a crafting guy pre-DF. It was the one part of the game I always identified with even in bad expansions. DF is without a doubt the worst that crafting has been in the game. It's unreasonably complicated.

  • @AuspexAO

    @AuspexAO

    Жыл бұрын

    It only needs two major fixes in my opinion, and I hope you'd agree this would make things easier: 1. The reagent bag is dumb. When you learn a profession you should just get a semi-bottomless item tab under the profession that stores everything that profession can create/gather (that's not straight up gear). This would take the place of the old profession specific bags and they would be phased out (as well as the reagent bags which are stupid). So like an engineer would get bronze, silver, and gold screws all in that tab. No more bag space. Plus, the tab would make it really obvious what everything did. Oh! So these are parts I need to make crafts, these are item mods like tinkers, etc. Cleanly labeled like a professional would have them in a shop. Most MMOs have these "reagent only" tabs now. 2. They need to redesign specialization trees to be way more obvious. You should have one tree that gives you generic boosts to skill, inspiration, overall improvements to your prof. that unlocks at skill level 25 and then the rest should unlock at 50 and be specific to ONLY those categories. It's so dumb finding out that you get big inspiration boosts in a sub-tree that you need to create a build for another tree. It's confusing. Don't make people go down a less optimal tree for what they want to get generic stat boosts. The wording is so confusing, "am I gaining this skill only for crafting this type of item or all items?" That could be eliminated by just making sub-specializations very specific to that craft type. Those two changes would make the system a lot more friendly and understandable.

  • @kloaf1131

    @kloaf1131

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not really that complicated. the only part I really agree with is the last. Where it's unsure of what skill you gain for points in some sub specs. But other than that it's pretty simple just takes a second to figure it out. I also like the bigger tree. Gave me reasons to do same profs on alts until later when I have most of it.

  • @Danishdrums

    @Danishdrums

    Жыл бұрын

    Rule of thumb is, rank 3 consumables gives you the best stats. Rank 3 crafting materials gives you the best chance for a higher rank (top rank being rank 5 for gear). Basically, best ranks = best quality (or best potential).

  • @pumirya
    @pumirya Жыл бұрын

    I think this expansion has made some good stride in the direction that the game needs to go and I have enjoyed my time playing it. That said, there are still some things that need to be done to make the game better such as account wide reputations, less random stats on gear and end game content that doesn’t require 20 add ons to do well.

  • @kloaf1131

    @kloaf1131

    Жыл бұрын

    no content requires addon to perform well. I'm not even sure what you mean by random stats on gear. All stats are deterministic unless you craft an item without missives. And all rep rewards are account wide. The rep itself just isn't.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    you're never getting account wide rep, you got the rewards account wide and it's easier for all characters going forward, up to 200% faster. Blizzard is never going to let you be one and done for all 60 characters, get it out of your head.

  • @Nyeusi

    @Nyeusi

    Жыл бұрын

    there’s not really any point of needing rep on all characters. You get all rewards (minus the primal infusion at the end) for all alts so it’s not necessary

  • @Rhob81

    @Rhob81

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kloaf1131 Probably he means random tertiary and powerful stats like Avoidance or Leech.

  • @Valvad0ss

    @Valvad0ss

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nyeusithe infusion is important for a lot of people. Especially alts You just invalidated your own point man 😂

  • @watchonjar
    @watchonjar Жыл бұрын

    im in the same boat, just cleared hc and were progressing onto mythic but im not as bothered in clearing it. So now im ready to transtion into just playing wow a couple days a week and play another game as my main game.

  • @xRichhhx
    @xRichhhx Жыл бұрын

    I'm close to done as well. I achieved the goals I wanted to achieve and now I'm just waiting for either the next small patch (shouldn't be too far away) or the next big patch in Spring. Having played almost 4 months straight of one game is a good sign of it being enjoyable again vs only 2~ months in SL S1 lol.

  • @aeoxgaming8128
    @aeoxgaming8128 Жыл бұрын

    Nothing i want more than TDP videos of you trying solo shuffle as a challenge to whatever rating

  • @GlitchBomb
    @GlitchBomb Жыл бұрын

    Chill expansion i like it. I agree on the M+ grind feels really exhausting with all the negative affixes to not get drops you need at the end over and over again, including the vault.

  • @mksteele99
    @mksteele99 Жыл бұрын

    @preachgaming When are we getting a Season 2 of your PUG AoTC seires? Every episode following your lock was a BANGER.

  • @crimeon1176
    @crimeon1176 Жыл бұрын

    Are we going to see a return of the TDP style of video with all the other games the team may be playing, it could be cool to have those videos as a check in, a way to check out the way the different games and that kind of thing.

  • @rfo98b
    @rfo98b Жыл бұрын

    I personally loved DF but i actually ended up quitting because of the amount of m+ focus. I can't play quite as much as i could in the past and I do not enjoy m+ that much (I find it repetitive and it gets boring really fast). So when i realized how much M+ I felt like I had to do to be competitive, I simply couldn't be bothered.

  • @ChinnuWoW

    @ChinnuWoW

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m a ‘casual mythic’ raider and never stepped foot in an M+. My performance is not an issue.

  • @rfo98b

    @rfo98b

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChinnuWoW sure, depending on the level you would like to perform at this is possible. But fact is you could be performing better and compared to someone who does m+ (assuming similar skill level), you are simply behind.

  • @hush9185

    @hush9185

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChinnuWoW if youve never set foot in a M+ then yes your performance is an issue

  • @ChinnuWoW

    @ChinnuWoW

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hush9185 Bich, I'm in the top 3 DPS and 4/8M. My ilvl is 414. I don't need to do M+.

  • @ChinnuWoW

    @ChinnuWoW

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rfo98b Not really since I'm ilvl 414. M+ is mainly beneficial just for the start of a patch to get gear quicker, but I catch up later on.

  • @richardanthony7855
    @richardanthony7855 Жыл бұрын

    Idk who made a bigger comeback between Warcraft and preach’s head top 🔥

  • @neugassh3570

    @neugassh3570

    Жыл бұрын

    its kinda easy to answer

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    WoW obviously

  • @neugassh3570

    @neugassh3570

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UltimateGamerCC So big comeback it has half the player base than the previous expansion :D:D:D

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@neugassh3570 that's from the fact that people are still reeling from the past two expansions, it has nothing to do with Dragonflight, but for those who are playing WoW is in a state that has not been seen in a while, a state of fun.

  • @neugassh3570

    @neugassh3570

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UltimateGamerCC fun for very few

  • @VorpalVixen
    @VorpalVixen Жыл бұрын

    I think the trading post is a great addition to the game, and I think that Dragonflight in general has taken a lot of steps in the right direction. My biggest qualm with WoW now is how out of reach raiding is for your average player. I love doing M+ because it's content I can hop into in a more "episodic" format, like watching a tv show rather than a movie. If I have ample time I can chain them, but if something happens I can just stop after one run. FFXIV has done a great job of creating that type of environment even in their high-end raiding scene, and after experiencing that I have a hard time envisioning ever coming back to WoW raiding. That would be fine, except that all the best gear you get from the game is from mythic raiding, so if you want to push as high as you can in M+, it behooves you to also be pushing into mythic. It's just kind of an unfortunate setback. Even though I enjoy M+, I can work on it all day and still not be able to do as well as a mythic raider that does M+ more casually. I also really think WoW needs to take a lesson from FF in the way they display their mechanics. There are so many times I get hit by things in WoW that feels unfair just because you can't tell where the edge of the swirly is, or other unclear things. FF makes it very very apparent, and if you get hit by a mechanic, it very much feels like your fault, not a fault of bad display.

  • @AuspexAO

    @AuspexAO

    Жыл бұрын

    If they can cut raiding up into smaller chunks without killing the difficulty, I think that people would get back in. Make raiding about clearing bosses with complex mechanics and maybe a few interesting trash fights. We already have Mythic plus for mob clearing challenges.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    the biggest issue with Raids and other Group content is Addons, it creates the need for supernatural levels of difficulty and screws over those who dont want addons. i myself am very minimalistic with my addons, i dont want DBM, Damage Meters or any other shit like that, i really wish Blizzard would ban those addons entirely, so it's about skill, not machines doing the work.

  • @volixian

    @volixian

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why a lot of people like the older expansion [vanilla/tbc/wotlk] raiding. It's a bit of a challenge, but nowhere near retail's level, and it's possible for every level of player for older xpac.s

  • @Iceburg2355
    @Iceburg2355 Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully someday we will get a new legacy.

  • @micheljolicoeur6094
    @micheljolicoeur6094 Жыл бұрын

    WOW has always had that issue since they added M+, the best gearing path is M+ for all forms of endgame content. For players like myself who do not want / need the stress of a timer or as you pointed out do not want to spend 10+ hours a week in that situation nothing has changed since BFA.

  • @kye4216

    @kye4216

    Жыл бұрын

    As someone who usually hates any timed events in games, M+ isn’t really about the timer unless you are at a very high level. If you can just clear the dungeon you will time it 99% of the time.

  • @krucible9369

    @krucible9369

    Жыл бұрын

    The more M+ you do the less of an issue the timer becomes.

  • @leonardceres9061
    @leonardceres9061 Жыл бұрын

    yeah, I have to agree with your take on the one issue you have with the fact that having to run too many mythic plus dungeons to get year is overwhelming. I have the skill I am sure to run mythic raids, but my problem is the fact that I don’t want to take the time to get the gear necessary to do them having to run a certain amount of dungeons per week just starts to feel like work again just give me tokens. Let me save up by running whatever I want goodbye high enough item level gear to clear whatever content my own personal skill level allows me to do. Don’t dangle gear over my head. It was the only way I can attain is through jumping all these hoops just to artificially inflated engagement.

  • @Danishdrums
    @Danishdrums Жыл бұрын

    I agree Preach. Ive done all my 20´s on both fortified and tyrannical. Now, Im basically just doing weekly runs for vault. 8 runs definantly seem like too much for three vault slots, Id say six would be the correct number.

  • @Nightstalker314
    @Nightstalker314 Жыл бұрын

    The progression for 418 crafting materials works well when you focus on your main character. With alts it's getting tough when you got the sparks every 2 weeks or so.

  • @eodyn7

    @eodyn7

    Жыл бұрын

    There's an easy alt catch up for that

  • @ActiveXenon

    @ActiveXenon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eodyn7 only for the primal chaos, not for the concentrated primal infusions that let you craft gear at 418. You still have to run the 10 +16s or above for each 418 piece of gear.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eodyn7 there's a LITTLE catchup, but still encourages repetition en masse, way too much of it tbh.

  • @Nyeusi

    @Nyeusi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UltimateGamerCC you get 5 sparks instantly and account wide primal chaos (with tax). It’s pretty easy for alts

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nyeusi that's only part of the puzzle my dude... the Infusions that you require are only gained through repetitive farming of M+ 16s. also those 5 sparks add up to 2 weapons and a lariat for a Fury Warrior, far from full set.

  • @geminiblade
    @geminiblade Жыл бұрын

    it's way better than SL but i still find myself raid logging some weeks, or the most ill do is the weekly and that's it. not even renown capped but there's almost zero incentive to do it. i made the mistake of taking alchemy which is complete dog shit in terms of the crafting orders, and barely functions outside that only useful thing is longer phials.

  • @stoutside
    @stoutside Жыл бұрын

    Bang on…The game is really fun… I can build my character any way I want… explore zones… upgrade gear easily… and overcome great foes… elden ring is awesome! … then once a month I can log into wow and check the trading post 15 dolla well spent imo… I hope the next expansion is as boring as dragonflight maybe I’ll finally be able to build my dream house… just pure non stop fun 😂

  • @Thegamerslounge33
    @Thegamerslounge33 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about the ret changes

  • @nobodyspecial690
    @nobodyspecial690 Жыл бұрын

    lets hope it keeps

  • @unhingedcrouton
    @unhingedcrouton Жыл бұрын

    The worst part of the crafting system for me is artisans mettle which is needed for recrafts and you can get it only by doing profssions stuff. The whole point of me making a crafting order is so i dont have to bother with professions myselfs but get a crafter to do it. And now I have to craft to be able to make a fucking order? What the fuck are they smoking at blizzard?

  • @ninjaman0003
    @ninjaman0003 Жыл бұрын

    i'm actually in a rather happy place for the first time in years. i'm content with my gear, i login once a day to farm what i want, and play other games in the meanwhile. i'd probably play a bit more if the pugging community wasn't so toxic (yes, i'm in a guild but it's been weathered hard by the last few expacs), if they would replace the last remaining annoying affixes *stares at explosive*, and if the raid tier was better. there are some bosses that just seem pointlessly busy like the 2nd to last boss where most of the fight is destroying eggs. the fight is just too fast paced for me to have any fun with it.

  • @krackawoody2556
    @krackawoody2556 Жыл бұрын

    Im loving WoW rn. My Main is roughly 405 I got KSM and AOTC and im good to chill. Which means now im going back and doing old achievement hunting and doing Order Halls on my Alts. Transmog farming. Getting the Horder Allied races cus im an Alliance main and I dont feel like Im forced to go back onto my main.

  • @marxman6896
    @marxman6896 Жыл бұрын

    Agree on M+. 8 a week is still too much for my tastes. I know it's not mandatory, but it is highly incentivized.

  • @AuspexAO

    @AuspexAO

    Жыл бұрын

    It's an understandable issue and an easy fix. They just need to reward way more drops/gear for the first four or five you run per week and then less for the rest. You incentivize people to at least run a handful a week but still reward grinders for their time invested but not with as much. I'm very surprised they haven't learned this lesson in M+ considering they do it with renown rewards. You get a couple big bursts of renown a week and then have to really grind if you want more. It's a perfect fit for casual and hardcore players alike. They wouldn't need valor quite as much if they would increase gear drops (plus it would make players really push knowing that the first four or five were like 80% drop chances for some M+ loot)

  • @marxman6896

    @marxman6896

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AuspexAO Yeah, I agree. I've always been against the weekly vault as a rewards crutch. With more drops in M+ and now with valor upgrades, the vault just shouldn't need to exist. One of the worst feelings in past expansions was reaching the point where your only possible reward was from the vault every week. That was awful. Valor mostly fixed that, but it still feels pretty mandatory to grind 8 a week per character, which is way too much. 1-3-5 would feel way better imo.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, even with the dungeon pool changing next season, that's a lot of repetition, repetition that dont really relent for alts, it's the least alt friendly part of WoW right now atm.

  • @SiopeR
    @SiopeR Жыл бұрын

    They locked questlines behind renown so i don't blame ppl to farm it to avoid spoilers. Also i was able to claim 500 tokens on account without active sub, not sure if it was bug or a bait ;D

  • @vojtechbrezik2998
    @vojtechbrezik2998 Жыл бұрын

    Mike, can we PLEASE get an updated UI for Dragonflight?

  • @dawfydd
    @dawfydd Жыл бұрын

    Kinda wish they'd cover SWTOR though its very confusing to figure everything out its taken me a good week and i still don't understand a lot of things. But gearing and endgame seem really easy to jump into, and the story is great- even the free part of the game its worth a try for most people.

  • @rayvg7709

    @rayvg7709

    Жыл бұрын

    Imo the endgame gearing loop in swtor is kinda shit.

  • @chrisnutter
    @chrisnutter Жыл бұрын

    Wow man, nailed down my exact feeling on the xpac so far. Just got aotc and it's a gear check and m+ is a little too spammy for my taste but you need the gear. But overall I can dig it. And I'm looking forward to the upcoming content. Just spent some time on the ptr with a pally. The Ret changes are fun. We will see on the tuning... I can do all the fun little things now until next patch and not feel like I'm playing catch up the whole time and grinding for dumb shit... unless I want to, and that's great. I'm cautiously optimistic for the future of the game for the forst time in years.

  • @chrisnutter

    @chrisnutter

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @darklypure52
    @darklypure52 Жыл бұрын

    Very interested to see how your reaction will be to destiny 2 raids.

  • @YumiGoblin
    @YumiGoblin Жыл бұрын

    Here's hoping we can see Mike and friends tackles Abyssos Savage in FFXIV at some point

  • @Ren99510

    @Ren99510

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be a blast to see

  • @thovarisk8699
    @thovarisk8699 Жыл бұрын

    i couldn't even finish leveling in wow.. GW has it's claws on me now... i should go do another zone of Return of Dragons achievement for my Legendary amulet now that i think about it...

  • @turicanelynk
    @turicanelynk Жыл бұрын

    if a normal Human does 180° as fast and often as Preach he dies..

  • @lostmarimo
    @lostmarimo Жыл бұрын

    my goal was to get heroic rasz down but i somehow never got it down with the guild. i did some mythic bosses but rasz never happened when i was there. and now the guild went to shit lol. oh well imma play some eso and gw2

  • @Menky90
    @Menky90 Жыл бұрын

    You still have to do wayyy to many mythics fill out vault especially if you have alts I ran 12 yesterday and that doesn’t even include all the failed dungeons I had to redo to get 12 they need to work on that

  • @sanmaru5555

    @sanmaru5555

    Жыл бұрын

    Well they are alts, you don't need to gear them as fast as your main

  • @sweetphil4670
    @sweetphil4670 Жыл бұрын

    That thumbnail will haunt my dreams forever

  • @TheChunkeyNinja

    @TheChunkeyNinja

    Жыл бұрын

    Accept Preachdormu into your heart

  • @RBFILMS
    @RBFILMS Жыл бұрын

    Now I'm not going to take credit...but when I applied for the wow community council a while back, the "trading post" was one of the ideas I suggested, you could call it a coincidence, but the "ideas" and concept are almost identical (like really identical). Now, I haven't played dragon flight in a while, but before sending my proposal off, I sent it to some of my Guild to read over. They recently got back to me recently telling me "Blizzard used your idea" I had no idea what they were talking about as I haven't been following Dragon Flight but seeing the trading post was pretty surreal. I honestly thought my guild was trolling me with fake screengrabs as they know how much work I put into the proposal. I'm not THAT bothered though, as I'm just glad to see it, and people seem to be enjoying it!

  • @BunnyArisu

    @BunnyArisu

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine thinking you came up with the trading post idea lmfao.

  • @stoutside

    @stoutside

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine thinking a monthly battle pass retention mechanic is genius

  • @hobosssftw1013
    @hobosssftw1013 Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you’re having the same experience as me :) happy to be playing but a little annoyed at the valor/ball upgrade thing. Also for hitting renown 25 we don’t get a free concentrated one but the garbage lower one lol

  • @magnusuggerud5599
    @magnusuggerud5599 Жыл бұрын

    Are you doing elder scrolls online in prosjekt mmo?

  • @georgisaksson7500
    @georgisaksson7500 Жыл бұрын

    Ye, it is just fun :) can you imagine !!

  • @KACATK
    @KACATK Жыл бұрын

    How much they paid ?

  • @darkdemon653
    @darkdemon653 Жыл бұрын

    Gearing was way too fast. We're maybe halfway done the season but with the vault, piles of crafted gear, and upgrading through valor, I'll be 418 on two characters by the end of the week without ever touching the mythic raid.

  • @warllockmasterasd9142
    @warllockmasterasd9142 Жыл бұрын

    My bestie returned to DF, after skipping both BFA and Shadowlands. and he sums up DF pretty well: he is having fun, but there really is not a lot of content to do for him. (He's a Casual with Capital C)

  • @LukeR1M
    @LukeR1M Жыл бұрын

    Hair looks great, Mike!

  • @chasedogman2032

    @chasedogman2032

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah all three of them!

  • @SleepySteve79
    @SleepySteve79 Жыл бұрын

    Havent crafted anything for anybody else then myself and my alts. Nobody wants my not maxed out crafted items. and upping it takes FOREVER!

  • @Steevvee
    @Steevvee Жыл бұрын

    No game should force you to play it everyday, you should want to play it everyday.

  • @SkidogMedia
    @SkidogMedia Жыл бұрын

    I mean you really only need to do 8 m+ a week for full chest. 10 a week is just extra for the 405 or 418 upgrades And with valor uncapped now. It’s not that bad

  • @ronholmesuk825
    @ronholmesuk825 Жыл бұрын

    I was really enjoying DF, but the M+16 toxicity has done me in. Every group you (finally) get into, disbands and where's the fun in that. So I can't gear up through M+ anymore, my Raiding Team is HC only, and struggling to kill Broodkeeper, so I'll keep raiding - drop the M+ etc and just play something else for a while :)

  • @SkidogMedia

    @SkidogMedia

    Жыл бұрын

    So use your own key and select who you want. I do it all the time

  • @Rhob81

    @Rhob81

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SkidogMedia This doesn't avoid the issue tho, you can't tell how toxic/non toxic people will be unless you play with friends.

  • @SkidogMedia

    @SkidogMedia

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Rhob81 I’ve had no toxicity problems lol. Honestly the opposite

  • @jb7595
    @jb7595 Жыл бұрын

    How about swtor for project mmo?

  • @anannoyedpanda
    @anannoyedpanda Жыл бұрын

    It's been fun. We need even more open world content though.

  • @peterj.2114
    @peterj.2114 Жыл бұрын

    This is by far the best wow expansion to date for me. I have also achieved my goals for the most part but I'm still logging in to do fun stuff with the guild, do m+ on whatever character I feel like and just mess around. It's really been a breath of fresh air and I hope it can continue.

  • @Robert21211

    @Robert21211

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! basically finished but still playing cuz it's fun to just...be done. Now I help others or level up alts. No more annoyed with alts because of stupid system grinds.

  • @laoch5658

    @laoch5658

    Жыл бұрын

    One of the worst for me

  • @spacejunk2186
    @spacejunk2186 Жыл бұрын

    I am confused how people are able to farm out all the renown in the first days. How is this possible? I am many weeks in and still not done.

  • @kye4216

    @kye4216

    Жыл бұрын

    You get 1 character to 10 Renown with each faction. Then start another and they get a 100% boost. You then do the same once you hit 20 and get 200% to 10 and 100% to 20. That way you can hit max renown just by doing the quests.

  • @Destiny4Travail
    @Destiny4Travail Жыл бұрын

    Daaaaang Mike the hair is looking fantastic, very nice.

  • @zpader
    @zpader Жыл бұрын

    So chuffed that this is what the video was about. "This is amazing, it's done now. What's next."

  • @Xenofreak
    @Xenofreak Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I've been on that "too much M+" train since Shadowlands vault was previewed. Even after they reduced it. Especially as a pugger who can spend nearly as much time looking for a group as actually running the dungeon. It burns you out, and the worst part is it burns you out when you most need all three vaults. You're already naturally getting tired of mythics because you've been running them for months, but you really need all 3 slots to increase your chance at the limited number of still useful items that it can drop.

  • @MattEnters
    @MattEnters Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know you were gonna come back to check out Destiny! I'm gonna be super interested in your thoughts on it, Destiny historically has been pretty awful for new/returning players, so I will be interested to see your takes on Lightfall!

  • @alittlebirdi
    @alittlebirdi Жыл бұрын

    Can always tell its a positive vibe type of video when the nostrils are flaring in the thumbnail.

  • @RazanaArcclaw
    @RazanaArcclaw Жыл бұрын

    Isn't it only 8 M+ to get all 3 options? 1 to get 1 option 4 to get 2 8 to get 3.

  • @unloyal4847
    @unloyal4847 Жыл бұрын

    Loving some good news on the rival game, if WoW playerbase is happy then thats a good thing, hoping for more good news like this on them.

  • @aMilling
    @aMilling Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for you to try Destiny 2 raids.

  • @Thorkou
    @Thorkou Жыл бұрын

    I'm an avid mythic plus player since legion has never been a fan of raiding though. gearing through mythic plus takes too long. I finally put down wow till they fix the mythic plus loot system and many other problems with mythic plus like no penalties for people leaving after 1 wipe or cause something is pulled wrong etc. If they fix some of the major issues i had with M+ I might return to wow someday but rn I just can't go through a 4th expansion of this. side note: rip having to play destiny did you lose bet? lol..... I feel bad for you Mike.

  • @kloaf1131

    @kloaf1131

    Жыл бұрын

    penalties for leavers would lock people in to something they maybe didn't sign up for but realized after it started. And any goals you can set to make it ok would be punishment, unreachable or abusable.

  • @tiredguy2753
    @tiredguy2753 Жыл бұрын

    Same here, nothing is wrong with taking a break. Doesn't mean you hate the game, you just want to step away until something interesting happens enough that you want to step back in.

  • @RaduStancu
    @RaduStancu Жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail is nightmare fuel, looks like john travolta in that alien movie

  • @Tyelkormoko
    @Tyelkormoko Жыл бұрын

    OK, kind of a bit of rambling in the beginning with a lot of jumping around tonally but very valid points and analysis of the wow situation. Looking forward to the MMO series!

  • @warrenny1168
    @warrenny1168 Жыл бұрын

    Dathea is your favourite? Wierd i hate that boss im in a guild thats progging hc raz now tho maybe it’s the skill difference. Well its my least fav hates prob a bit strong

  • @dusk1947
    @dusk1947 Жыл бұрын

    Agree. WoW's formula once again feels... normal. Dragon Flight feels back to being a pleasant balance of an MMO.

  • @UltimateGamerCC

    @UltimateGamerCC

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly, some people are upset that the expansion seems lackluster, but we needed something more down to earth and badly we needed that, and i think we need the next one to be like that as well, no high stakes saving the universe just improving the game at it's core after BFA and Shadowlands has come and gone, Dragonflight is a breath of fresh air for someone dying of suffication.

  • @zolly8968
    @zolly8968 Жыл бұрын

    So he's not gonna play the next tiers/patches?

  • @sanmaru5555

    @sanmaru5555

    Жыл бұрын

    he will lawl, he keeps creating drama for nothing

  • @Altarknight
    @Altarknight Жыл бұрын

    I played this game from 2007 ..every each exp i have done pvp and pve . Someo did hard mode. Some just farmed and just enjoyed it. But maybe because of my age or just too much disappointed about the last 2 exp, i won't do that again. grinde farming honor , conquest , raid , M+ etc same thing years and years ... i need something new in mmo .

  • @SkidogMedia

    @SkidogMedia

    Жыл бұрын

    Every mmo is gonna have the same basic conquest. Unless it’s not about player power but that’s not fun

  • @mange6164
    @mange6164 Жыл бұрын

    King

  • @fredrick1176
    @fredrick1176 Жыл бұрын

    Do about 4 m+ a week, so far gear upgrades have been nice, sitting at 392 as what I think a super casual

  • @monkeysk8er33
    @monkeysk8er33 Жыл бұрын

    I cleared Normal, working on Heroic. Once I clear that, I'm good. I've always been a player for the lore, so when an expansion keeps me going for months, that's a great thing, but MMOs are never ending. PvP hasn't been good since BC, and M+ got old by the end of Legion. Raids are fun, questing is fun. I'll stay subbed for Traders Tenders, but in terms of playing, I just come back to do the new quests and raids.

  • @sanmaru5555

    @sanmaru5555

    Жыл бұрын

    kl zag shwy

  • @raquetdude
    @raquetdude Жыл бұрын

    4:24 GW2 has done this for years now (mostly cause it’s system hasn’t been changed in forever).

  • @LostCoastGhost_
    @LostCoastGhost_ Жыл бұрын

    You want to enjoy Raz more try it as a dk 😉

  • @robinandersson99
    @robinandersson99 Жыл бұрын

    the title scared me

  • @Philwastaken00
    @Philwastaken00 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite thing about df gotta be the raid. So nice to only have 8 bosses in the raid, and the difficulty curve is really solid throughout the raid.

  • @hellothere8812
    @hellothere8812 Жыл бұрын

    Same I think most people are on a break from wow now until 10.1

  • @Rethmaa
    @Rethmaa Жыл бұрын

    Solo shuffle keep me playing its a very addictive and fun stuff

  • @Maddawg1984
    @Maddawg1984 Жыл бұрын

    Great to have you back and I agree this Xpac is much better I really like the direction WOW is heading

  • @captaincokecan
    @captaincokecan Жыл бұрын

    That picture disturbed me

  • @jdee9975
    @jdee9975 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah he's spot on about that especially you have alts oh man

  • @morfin22
    @morfin22 Жыл бұрын

    I really like where Dragonflight is at right now. I mainly do m+, but also pug hc clears and 1-2 mythic bosses once in a while. I like the raid, I like most of the dungeons, and I love that they switch it up, and put old content in the mix, so you don't just run the same 6-8 dungeons, with the exact same bis loot for the entire expasion, but it actually changes between seasons. And although it is "damaging" to not cap your vault for 1 or 2 weeks, its nothing like the last few expansions, I HATED the forced grind and it really killed my enjoyment. I also feel like it's easier/faster to catch up on gear with alts that you haven't played for a while, or a freshly dinged one. The game has problems no doubt, but for me personally, and the parts of the game that I consume it's a solid 8/10. Overall I'm optimistic about the future of wow, and looking forward to see if they can keep the game going along this path.

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