'I have read only a few pages of Manu S. Pillai's book' - Aswathi Thirunal Gowri Lakshmi Bayi
The Travancore Royal Family member Aswathi Thirunal Gowri Lakshmi Bayi says Manu S. Pillai's book 'The Ivory Throne', which is about the royal family, is not entirely factual.
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I didn't read both these books but one thing i can say that from 2,3 interviews i had seen about manu s pillai was amazing, such a dedicated hardworking knowledgeable person.. i never seen this kind of person before, no arrogance in words eventhough he achieved this much
@kva9972
8 ай бұрын
True
@Zeira111
5 ай бұрын
No, he is not. He is just the mouthpiece of leftist agenda and nothing more.
Manu s pillai is wrong because she doesn't like it 😅
She has not cited a single wrong fact in the Ivory Throne.
തിരുവിതാംകൂറിലെ .. ചതുവർണ്യത്തിലെ "ശൂദ്രനായി" ജനിച്ച Rama Varma I, Swathi Thirunal Rama Varma II എല്ലാവര്ക്കും .. സ്വർണ പശു വെച്ചുഉള്ള യാഗം വഴി .. "ക്ഷത്രിയൻ" ആയി .. അത് പറഞ്ഞു തന്നതു Manu S. Pillai ആണ് ..
@sumarajan487
5 ай бұрын
He is correct, ammomma paranjukodutha nunakal ivar viswasichu, adhikarathinu vendi cheytha kroorathakal, pavam sethu lakshmi bhai
നിങ്ങടെ അന്തപുര രഹസ്യങ്ങളും കുശുമ്പും വൈര്യവും എല്ലാം ചെക്കൻ ചികഞ്ഞ് എടുത്തിട്ടുണ്ട്.കുറെയൊക്കെ എഴുതാതെ വിട്ടിട്ടുണ്ട് എന്നറിയുന്നു .നിങ്ങളുടെ ദേഷ്യതിൻ്റെ കാരണം മനസ്സിലാകും.
Manu is an independent and professional Historian
@vinodnair2012
8 ай бұрын
Because he's a leftist right?
You guys are getting offended. Manu wrote on evidences from british archives. Your arguments will not sustain in court, so you didnt want that 😂
@manjushaaaa1642
Жыл бұрын
Brishers have their own agenda.
@SK-iv5jw
Жыл бұрын
This is called colonial hangover..how can you say that britishers say is the truth.. they had an agenda to rule and loot india with that purpose in mind they made up things and the same is archived..m
@aswinsreedharan7972
Жыл бұрын
രാജ കുടുംബം ത്തിനു no agenda
@harveyspector5359
Жыл бұрын
@@manjushaaaa1642 both have thier own agenda
@sreekumarpr7363
Жыл бұрын
ബ്രിട്ടീഷ് കാരെ ഇന്നും മുഖ വിലയ്ക് എടുക്കേണ്ട അവസ്ഥ മനു s പിള്ളമാരുടെ ഗതികേട്.... 😏😏
I have read Manu's book. I personally believe what he has written the facts through a lot of research. if you look at the way he is presenting facts in his interviews, you will know that he is indeed speaking the truth. He has relied on documents especially letters written by palace spies to higher authorities in England. So there is a 95 percent possibility of stated facts being true. I will give only a five percent error since the facts tend to get manipulated as time marches on. There is another possibility of the British adding a bit of exaggeration in their reports. Though his books contain almost all information from the socio economic conditions prevailed in Kerala state, the various kingdoms and their rulers up to the end of the reign of the Maharaja in Travancore. A brief introduction to Kerala history and culture as well. As for the interview of this lady, as most of the comments have pointed out, the sheer arrogance in which she replies to the questions. The funny thing is she didn't even bother to read the whole book. How can someone criticize a book without reading it fully and understand what the author is trying to convey through it. Of course there is a hidden feud between the two streams of the royal family. It's a well known hidden fact and Manu has opened the Jeanie in the bottle and set it free. The majority of the audience like the Jeanie and that's why everyone is congratulating him. Very beautiful way of presenting facts as such mood maintained as in a story telling atmosphere so as while sitting with little children. Do watch his dozens of interviews. You can see how beautifully he orates different stories in a sweet way. Unlike the rani saying that Ivory Throne become a hit because it is cheap and with some sort of binding and all is utter nonsense. No one judges a book by a cover or by its volume instead by the quality of the content written inside. I think none has even bothered to read her the "Saga" book. It is of huge volume but i think even the publishers acknowledge the fact that the written contents are not worth the hype. She was telling some vague facts such as "someone tried to killed Maharaja in bed " repeatedly without revealing any of the circumstances which led to the incident. Story telling or writing something is an art and there are not so many artists who can do the job well enough theses days instead many of those who claim to be a top writer after writing something out just like that. I knew the fact that she purposely wrote this book to counter the narratives put by Manu in his book within a short span and without doing any research on the subject at all. Those who helped her edit/publish the book should also be zoo'd on since they are also unable to rectify the same. I have seen many interviews of Manu done by prominent anchors in Mathrubhumi, Manorama and other social media platform but not such a bad quality as this one. Doesn't the TNIE have some anchors who know HTGTJD?
@mynahkilli2928
Жыл бұрын
Me also
@prakkulmapillai
Жыл бұрын
Even your argument is biased . You wrote the above Ramayana to glorify Manu and Criticise the lady . If somebody wrote a novel based on your house and it’s offending you , then what will be your reaction ?. So be cool . Everybody has their right to agree or disagree . She is the best person to comment about her family affairs . Not an outsider like you and Manu
@dimdimathaaayi9220
Жыл бұрын
@@prakkulmapillaibut manu's point were logicaly correct. Do you think that a book aganist her uncle, and her lineage supported by her.. You said no one better know about their family matter than her.. Agree do you still think she admit argument against her family members are true..? Oh Might be You think like QUEEN didn't lie
@Ravisidharthan
5 ай бұрын
Manu is communist, obviously he is slanted like any other in the same wing
The man spent his 6 yrs to write it... The hardwork every thing... Just respect... And the 6 yrs he spent is to right the truth.. If he want to write and publish this book with full of lies he doesn't need 6 yrs😂 ... It's ony need months..... Manu know everything about royal fam... Even the Royal fam members don't😂 .. Respect ❤
@Zeira111
5 ай бұрын
6 years. 😂 are you kidding me? Do you even know what's research and especially historical research? Experts spends many decades to bring out something authentic from history. However, the leftist writers needs very less time because they are not committed to bring out facts. They just want their agendas to be fulfilled and write what they are paid for.
@sobhanapavithran352
Ай бұрын
How can one judge a book without reading it thoroughly?
If she hasn’t read the book how can she say it is not correct, she should comment on which source Manu quoted is wrong
This Lady is Very Arrogant .
@SP-xh9tq
Жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more! what I liked about the title of this video is at least this channel didnt put the "thamburatti" $hit at the end of her name!
@jayalakshmynair2493
Жыл бұрын
@@SP-xh9tqwhat is your problem, Mr .Pinu adimakal ku bhayankara chorichil anello royal family. People with some inferiority complex make this type of comments. Shame on you
@vippsmillennial6336
Жыл бұрын
@@jayalakshmynair2493 Sudapi identified!
@jayalakshmynair2493
Жыл бұрын
@@vippsmillennial6336 Correct. These people are making nasty comments about the royal family. They are creating disunity and hatred among people by making this type of comment and calling others as communal and all.They pose themselves as secular ,this is happening in present day kerala. Kashtam
@sree1010
Жыл бұрын
Dirty Sudappis and commies here
Without reading a book how can she write a book as an answer to Manu's book. Quite funny statement.
Manu has extensively referenced his book and quoted all places where he got tye informations from. All she seems to say is, "He is wrong, because I say so"
She says, "I have not fully read Manu's book" and then she says, "I have written a book which is an answer to Manu's book. - Funny.😀
എന്നെ കൊണ്ട് ഒന്നും പറയിപ്പിക്കല്ലേ - mere arrogance
തമ്പുരാട്ടിയുടെ അസഹിഷ്ണുത ഈ സംഭാഷണത്തിൽ പുറത്തു വരുന്നുണ്ട്
No class. Just usual arrogance. Rajabharanam poyathil auntykk nalla veshamam undallae...aunty parayunna mahavishnu nerittavathariha thallunkadha aalkar vishvasikanam...even manu said that his works would be reconsidered on a future date..it would definitely have bias ennu...oru karyam polite aayi parayan ulla class polum illatha ithine oke interview cheyan poyavane madalu veti adikanam..go amd learn what politeness is from Adithyan
Manu S Pillai ❤️
I have not read the book.. I just read some pages.. But it is not truee🤣🤣🤣
Had some respect now its gone, very arrogant lady.....😳😡
With due respect.. As rightly said - Ignore the controversies 🤞
@linguafranca1790
8 ай бұрын
But she did not ignore the controversy instead she went ahead and wrote a whole book in defence
She's from the other branch of the family which was opposed to the regent queen. She is sour because Manu opened a can of worms in his book and showed the real face of the family and how the regent queen was treated in the end.
@nila7860
4 ай бұрын
Please detail it
Good that the truth came to light, my grandfather is from Nagercoil, and he says every bit of information is correct in the Ivory Throne book.
he literally went through the archives in london and museums ,he is a professional.this lady is nothing but trying to create a controversy to sell her books.she herself states that she haven't even read his book,and it doesn't seem like she even referred any material for her book either.its ironic that she got to release a book that easily just because of her name .
"ennekkondonnum parayikkalle" - undignified reply from this woman, very cheap, slum-like language; sathyam paranjapo ammachikku pidikkunnilla, egoistic woman
@g3sitanarayan_clinpsychologist
Жыл бұрын
Kindly dont insult slum dwellers
@dimdimathaaayi9220
Жыл бұрын
You also used cheap language.. Why did you generalised particular language apt for slum people... First of all clean your mind too
@kva9972
8 ай бұрын
Exactly..such an uncivilized lady with no class...royal thfu
@sherin6119
6 ай бұрын
Excuse me what's that 'slum-like language '🤔
I dnt know. I sense some aura of arrogance. Comparing page quality and binding . I had read Manus book to half , yet to complete. Whats so much offensive about that. He has written facts. And he has not written anything offensive about the family as a whole just about few persons. We may not like the history written in those pages but then we ourselves can countercheck the source of information. He has clearly given references rt 🤔 And madam we would buy book howsovef costly it is if we feel the information given is authentic. For some reason I find her language spoken in this interview not very respectful.
Ee interviewers padichit vannirikkunnathano? Thirich oru chodiyam choicha vanna vazhiye oodum 😂
She lost honesty..... By making it false without any factual remark
She doesn't like the book because it exposes some of her family history which was glorified before. So that book is bad because the 'maharani' has said so! Wow...are we still in the last century? I had huge respect for this lady. Now she has reduced to an insecure person who desperately clings to royal titles and privileges shamelessly to maintain her social dignity. Sorry to see her stoop so low. If she has concrete evidence, let her contest in a dignified way. Even Manu has admitted that every historical literature will be re read and reconstructed with the passing of time. He never bragged his findings are completely foolproof. This elderly lady does not have the maturity even as a 30 year old. This kind of rebuke actually puts her further in bad shape.
ath balaromayum bala boomiyum alla rate vech sales nokkaan ...
The sales of a book is not dependent on whether it is hard bound or paper back and whether it has color photos or black and white but the effort and research that goes into its writing which these people born into the lap of luxury will never understand. People also dont have time to read and waste money on Ashwathy ammayis book. New Indian Express should not have wasted their time and that of viewers interviewing such people who add no value.
swanthamaayi book mothom vaayikaathe enganae not correct ennu parayum
i had some respect for her pakshe she seems very arrogant. i used to feel sorry seeing the state of erstwhile travancore family pakshe if this is their attitude, no wonder why they are like this today. royal families in many other parts of the country adapted to changes ,.ee teams.ivide appupan elephant ondu paranu irrikva aanu
@user-pd4xb8ef5t
11 ай бұрын
She is not arrogant, she is upset about how her family clan is tarnished terribly by Manu. But usually, royal ladies in the past have bitter rivals among the family members and this happens in every royal house in the world.
Book vaayikkan kshema illathe aal aano athinu answer aayi vere oru book irakkiye 😂😂
Manu is great
It’s all with given proof isn’t it ? So why get offended? Moreover the second Rani is known for her nefarious activities.
Read only few pages... And found it wrong....?
ബ്രിട്ടീഷുകാർക്കെതിരെ അമ്മച്ചിയുടെ കുടുംബം എന്താണ് ചെയ്തത് ❓️
@aneeshms5192
9 ай бұрын
ഇവിടെ ബ്രിട്ടീഷ് അണ്ടർ ൽ ആയിരുന്നില്ല.അതു മലബാർ മെഹല ആയിരുന്നു
@MohammedAfsalM
8 ай бұрын
Against !! They were a princely state of the EIC, in simpler terms a puppet state where the absolute power resided with British.
@Sandwich-G
8 ай бұрын
@@aneeshms5192ഒന്ന് പോടോ ചരിത്രം ഒന്ന് പഠിച്ചേ
@vinnaran80
6 ай бұрын
@@aneeshms5192 aavanjhath poyi kaalupidichittalle😂😂
@aneeshms5192
6 ай бұрын
@@vinnaran80 താൻ കോളച്ചാൽ യുദ്ദം പഠിക്കുക , അപ്പോ മനസിലാകും
Paperback and hardcover? Really?😅😅
Haha this is very interesting! Let's keep aside the question of truth or hoax. But, to reject a book you have to atleast read the book right 😂😂. She hasn't even touched the book nor seen it, can't even say it's name and straightaway rejected it.. Thats not how it works.
There is no evidence for her irrelevant words , manu has written 'ivory throne' with solid proof collected from archival source from England and all...
@prakkulmapillai
Жыл бұрын
What level of authenticity you give to British archives . They wrote those to please their king and queens . Some are utter lies . Even before Svati was born , Monroe wrote it’s a boy to Madras Governor . Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. So I request you that do not believe what Europeans wrote fully . They wrote with their colonial and imperial mindset
@mynahkilli2928
9 ай бұрын
@@prakkulmapillaiI'm also aware of colonial writings nd other colonial issues but how can anyone say that this lady is talking the truth...? Nd manu not .she will always deny what her maternal great grand mother nd her mother done with sethu lakshmi bhai nd her family
@itsdude9866
8 ай бұрын
You are more intersted to believe British evidences rather than our own alle!
Manu s pillai ❤
History Liberated cannot be even compared to the Ivory throne. I have read both the books. The difference is very evident. Those who hav not read , I would recommend you to. Im not saying that the book is wrong. But It cannot said to be true only because it has given some references and siteations.
@Sandwich-G
8 ай бұрын
🤢🤮🤮🤮
@jayadevanvijayan3756
8 ай бұрын
Well said. Just because he has referenced everything doesn’t make it remotely true. The account lacks a view from the royal family itself. The British had their own agenda.
Can everything written and stated during british era considered as reference...??i m just asking not offend any one.
Vila kuravullathu kondalla aa pusthakam vittu poyathu. Thats too superficial a reading. When long enjoyed previleges are suddenly challenged and idols broken, this insecurity is bound to surface. No surprise...
Manu is not a beneficiary by glorifying Sethu Lakshmi Bai. Also, he has no personal grudge against Sethu Parvathi Bai. He is a historian, not a blind bhakth of the Kaudiyar pakace. True Rama Varma spoiled the relationship between the two ranees. He was the villain.
@MrPalanibond
2 ай бұрын
Deep reading so many information getting.sethu Lakshmi is from Ramanathapuram King family This all under pandian Dynasty.
It's cranganore which is Kodungallore.
🤣, book muzhuvan vaayikaathe ennthavo rani parayaan udheshunne... Kulamahima maatram alla history il. There's resilience, courage wrath, feudalism in our history thats evident through our families itself. And for manu, he has spent more than half a dacade researching and compiling... More over winning a national award, acceptance by history instituitions... Rani stands no where but she is just a part of history.
Madam parayunna delution stories njan pala interviews ilum kandittundu...come to reality....still living in old dreams... people are now so much educated....they are not going to believe a Rani/ Raja blindly anymore..they need evidence instead
How can you form an opinion without even reading the entire book of Manu S Pillai? It is shameful and ignorant to comment so authentically that there is no truth value to his well-researched work when you did not even bother to study his work and his methods objectively. And the temerity to shamelessly admit that she just read a few pages and and wrote a book in response by quoting a friend who read it! Royals it seems!
Manu s pillayude book orupad books reffer cheyyukayum, London libraries, orupad aalkarod opinion eduthu, ningal aadhyam ayalude aduth stories oke paranju, last ningal matti paranju, ningalude ammomma ningalod nuna paranjathalle, aarenkilum cheytha krooratha grand sons nod parayumo, ningal ammomma parayunnath sathyam, manu s pilla nunayan, njangalk manuvine vayichapol aanu ellam pidikittiyath
Manu S pillai ❤️
Read book full and criticize..
Thani madambitharam😅
Manu s pillai❤
സേതു ലക്ഷ്മി vs. സേതു പാർവതി. സേതു ലക്ഷ്മി റീജന്റ്മഹാറാണി ആയി. പക്ഷെ സേതു പാർവതിയുടെ മകൻ ശ്രീചിത്ര തിരുനാൾ മഹാരാജാവായി. അതോടെ സേതു പാർവതി യുടെ കുടുംബം തഴയപ്പെട്ടു. ഈ കഥയാണ് മനു പിള്ള പറയുന്നത്.
Who is this woman?
@sree1010
Жыл бұрын
She is your grandma😂
@Abbhiiiiii
8 ай бұрын
Enthina ee abhinayam,,asooyakku marunilledo😂😂😂😂
@user-tn4dw9rc1x
8 ай бұрын
@@Abbhiiiiii Enikkariysn melanjitt choikkua. Ivar etha?🤭😂😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂🤣🤣😔😔😔🤣😂
The same way , the people with a good consciousness can understand the book by reading two or three pages. I even was not able to touch the book. Padmanabha dasar ennaal padmanabha daasar ennu thanne aanartham. Who is guided by Padmanabha. People have not experienced the cunningness of birtish and how they twist things, they will never understand it. British totally destroyed by different techniques, like using their missionary work and overruling without permission. They have used their energy in wrong way. Still if u are checking our education system you will understand it, a normal indian mind will check for the traditional thing, and the british mind always will expose themselves and overpower the position with no content in it. Thallu ennu parayum. As i am experienced it and still experiencing they have destroyed the whole value system by divide and rule. Its very difficult to study and continue an indian traditional knowledge here not because its not possible, because the ruling power is having western mind.
Book vayikkan agrahekkuna... Alkare.... Eppam vallare kuravannu.... athupole..valare time consuming..annu..athukondu...ullavar kuduthalum... Bookinte price ne kallum... Quality (cover page inte..quality alla genuinityum content qualityum )ayirekkum... Nokkuka...😄 ( personal opinion )
U know they r hiding somethin
Royal residues
8 veettil pilla maaar enn kelkkumbolll evarkk okke choriyum.. She didnt like the real history..
BHAGAVATHY NALLA KARYAM, SIR
Crangalore is something else
Manul Pillai is kerala's Irfan Habeeb.. he talk about caste system and still.keep tht Pillai tail..😂
ഐവറി ത്രോൺ എന്നാൽ ആയ് ത്രോൺ
@syhuhjk
11 ай бұрын
Ivar ano chetta ayi? 🤣😂
@syhuhjk
11 ай бұрын
Ayi ennannu marumakkathayam ayath onnu paranju tha?
യു ആരെ ടൂ മുച്ച് proud
@sree1010
Жыл бұрын
You are shameful
Bro wear chudithar
Obviously you will be offended.
1) sashi tharoor did his schooling along with Armenians in Culcutta...2) Armenians still keep their surname as nairi 3) manu was his assistant ? 4) Armenians wrote their first constitution during their stay in madras
Arrogance at its peak
Read the book first 😂funny lady
Manu s pillai is biased
@nsha4535
5 ай бұрын
That's because of your Sangh Pariwar inclination
ആയകാലത്ത് ഇവരൊക്കെ കാണിച്ചിരുന്ന പോക്കിരിത്തരങ്ങളും, രാജാക്കന്മാരുടെ സംബന്ധ കഥകളും,, (അസംബന്ധ കഥകൾ)--അതിനു പകരം കൊടുത്തിരുന്ന നൽകിയിരുന്ന പാരിതോഷികം എന്ന അമ്മ വീടുകളും....എല്ലാ കോപ്പും നാട്ടുകാർക്ക് അറിയാം. " " കട്ടയും പടവും മടങ്ങിയിട്ടും കൊട്ടാരം ചിതൽ അടിച്ചിട്ടും ""ഇവളുടെയൊന്നും അഹങ്കാരം ഇനിയും തീർന്നില്ല...😩🤑❗