Just a late video over my thoughts of Shindo Life PVP. What do you guys think? Do not send hate to RELLGames from this video.

@elbozo4793

Жыл бұрын

Ok

@badnewsgod

Жыл бұрын

It sounds like you might quit shindo

@xenozeroguy6484

Жыл бұрын

I can agree. So many types of ppl it’s annoying. For example, runners,spammers,max1000’s,

@xenozeroguy6484

Жыл бұрын

@@badnewsgod if he did I think he would switch to blox fruit 😔 I will miss these vids if he did

@CelestialWasTaken

Жыл бұрын

Headless bloodline combat made me feel like I was playing the old shindo again, like the moves. But right now everything comes from boss drops, or the most busted bloodlines while with my luck I can’t get anything. Took me a whole year(no exaggeration) to get Kagoku and that was when it became garbage. Took me until now to get strange, decided not to buy. And I just bought headless from Rc shop cuz I knew that the boss would not drop for me. Pvp used to be so good. I miss having to server hop for scrolls, and fight actual bosses not broken little shindo humans who basically just attack you till you die( especially Bankai and his damn susano’o, anyways I miss the older version and maybe not make the new tai moves so broken, especially the new gen 3, animations kinda make it more boring, doesn’t raise my spirits and give me adrenaline anymore. That’s my paragraph, sorry for taking up so much space. :)

They care about the majority of their community, which are rpg players that dont know how to pvp, and it kinda funny how long it took them to remake competitive and it still takes all day long to get in a match bc there is not enough pads 🤦🤡

@epRivera

Жыл бұрын

At least 80% of rpg players just hit logs all day. Just go into any public server other than Shindai Valley and see how few people are actually playing the game instead of going afk

@CelestialWasTaken

Жыл бұрын

@@epRivera agreed. Most people who r pvp have nothing else to do. Today I had to jump through rand servers just to find someone to fight. Still wasn’t enjoyable

@Im-themeatglober

Жыл бұрын

@@epRivera shindai and dawn*

@godzilla7418

Жыл бұрын

I get in to toxic and pvp public servers a lot I do my grinding in private servers it better than getting attacked every time you try to grind in a public server.

@aungaungmyanmar3556

Жыл бұрын

True

Hope rell sees this video and reflects on how his vision of shindo is and how it actually is, ofc the fighting system isn’t perfect it’s 2 devs, but maybe slow down in the developing, the bloodline, and focus on the internal of the game

@blackblack2495

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they handle citisism very well

@divyamshu48292

Жыл бұрын

Nah they won't see this video and even if they do they will not change it

@day2gunz

Жыл бұрын

@@divyamshu48292 hes on the balance team they will see this

@divyamshu48292

Жыл бұрын

@@day2gunz even if they do, nothing will change

@day2gunz

Жыл бұрын

@@divyamshu48292 not wrong

I think, after the all gen 3s get released, they should focus on not just content but more of balancing and the other game changing stuff, this would be cool you know

@ethanhorton5787

Жыл бұрын

its not just balance its everything the playerbase nothing is fun about the game anymore

I honestly hope after they finish gen 3s, open world, and a multitude of plans they have, to then focus on the actual game experience. Right now it's in a rough spot, but just give them some time. shindo will be in shape again. they listen to the community, so i truly believe they can make their pvp system fun again.

@ninshustoryrpshindolifedis8613

Жыл бұрын

your opinion sucks Variety Jay. 150k perfect block system>>> ez repetitive one shot combos system

I remember back when it was still shinobi life 2 where itachi sharingan was the top, where I didn't have to memorize every move to know which is blockable, and not get countered every second.

Shindo’s pvp was at its best in the first 2-3 months of its release when it was Shinobi Life 2. I stand by this still, it took skill and there wasn’t any grab style move with I-Frames or super spammy block breaks. Granted there have been some good changes like aerial combos. Ofc Jay made some good points as well in this video about the different meta’s, my second favorite being the shock wolves/ashen raigo meta.

100% I agree. I miss using my brain during pvp matches to figure out when to use my combo before their auto dodge goes off cooldown, but now it's just a spam-to-win system. I mean, it was like that in some ways back then, but now you just see people spamming certain bloodlines, and it really irritates me when people use their companions and just run and spam, which is why I no longer enjoy the game's pvp content.

I totally agree, especially since people nowadays literally just run with azim senko kunai and dagai wire, back then there was more variety in combos

Couldn't agree more.I felt the same thing when perfect block system was released, since then I stopped enjoying Shindo Life, as you said perfect block was just to stall fights I got into an argument and said the same thing the day this system was released

the aoe before it was nerfed was fun

@chisome1777

Жыл бұрын

Shut up bro 💀

Ama sum this up real fast since I've been playing Shinobi life 2 since the day it dropped. Been through alot of ups and downs, the perfect block system was a good try to give the other player a fighting chance and stop infinite combos, but in reality it took alot of fun out of shindo.

Finally this video, i've waited for it since the 150k pb system

I didn't use to PvP much before the perfect block system, and it wasn't because of the combat system, really. I was just more focused on PvE back then. My main PvP experience is with the perfect block system, which seemed fine to me at first as it gave people who aren't that experienced in the game a chance to fight back. However, with the amount of s, blockbreaks, and blockbypasses, it's not that fun. And even without them. the combat lost some of its spark. You can create a nice combo, but you can't see how far it goes because someone can perfect block their way out of it.

7:55 the nostalgia is real when he said that.

Same here. Though I complained about that system because some moves randomly bypass blocks, despite all of that it needs a little bit of skill to perform a combo. But the meta rn doesn't need a lil bit of skill to land a combo because you can just use a giant meatball move and other crazy block-breaking moves

@badnewsgod

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 👍

Ur spitting fax bro the I frame's spam and ray + new pumpkin bloodline really making a runner's dream come true

I think the perfect block should be changed to a customizable auto dodge that last 2.5 seconds and gives you so you can escape the combo and you can do it any time and it has a cooldown of 30 seconds and requires 10k chi also isn’t on any gcd it’s a better system cause some people don’t have a auto dodge and instantly lose to a sweat with a infinite combo

I remember playing with my friend before pb and I remember getting so excited about making my own inf combo. I remember playing to bait people's autododge then start a combo. The only thing I've gained from this pvp system is some subscribers. I can't have fun when I get blockbroken every second and then a 200k combo.

I think they just need to listen to us a little more. Maybe have mods pin suggestions on a new suggestion channel for us to post on with a 1 week cd.

What he said is exactly what I’ve been thinking about this game.I loved old shindo life, and my favorite era of the game was when ration ren came out and my friends loved to play the game too, we would all play and just have fun making combos. Now if you don’t have like an exact move set your gonna get absolutely slapped by the meta. Rell really needs to see and listen to this vid.

If they just removed the 150k perfect block and bring back the auto dodge it would be fun,like jay said it was so creative you could mix moves and make op combos but now it’s just a auto dodge spam moves run so the same thing again and then run away it’s just sad to see my favorite and jays and all of you guy’s favorite game just be like that,I really hope rellgames do something about it

I think if they readded autododges, the whole system would work well. If you don’t have a autododge, you aren’t completely screwed, or if your auto gets staggered then you have backup perfect block. The new comp changed didn’t help either.

@run_e_goist

Жыл бұрын

That would make running much more common

ive been top ten on the 1v1 leaderboard multiple times before this comp update and i kinda quit the game last month. I never played that much pvp before the pb update so i cant really say if it was better but I think its too late for rellgames to change/revert to the old system with the powercreep of new bls compared to older ones. I think rellgames should add a global cd to travel moves only in comp bc the run spam was very annoying to deal with, id have to switch loadouts mid fight to deal with runners like replacing my weapon for senko kunai or equiping demon warp and others. There is still a decent amount of tech in combos which is timing high damage moves at like 140k dmg to deal up to 200k+ damage but it feels too easy, cheesy, and at the same time not super beginner friendly. Also i think rellgames needs to spend more time when "fixing" bls or gamemodes bc the new comp is worse than before and nerfing bls shouldnt be just adding more handsigns to it. When they buffed sarachia akuma, they barely changed anything and its still trash bc they arent even aware of how moves work, like all the moves r still useless bc they all have gaps. This is just my opinion also revert comp.

it was same to me because the fights just took more time and i started hating pvp. I hope rellgames brings back the s BL moves back so i dont have to suffer with perfect block.

The new PVP system is kinda weird and buggy (which is expected for a new feature but still) in just today of playing it I’ve encountered 1. 3 people who were bugged mid-perfect block and couldn’t take damage 2. 2 people who spawned in the duel and then fell through the ground in the setup phase, which forces you to wait out the timer or leave the game And 3. Wayyyy too many runners, I guess it’s cause the map is huge but my character ran 5 marathons just to catch up with people. I really enjoyed the auto dodge meta and the update with only 4 element slots, it did limit your options but I think it limited them in a way that made it much more about strategy and picking the best moves for your kit. The auto dodge era needed a lot of skill and timing because if you got baited or mistimed it you couldn’t do anything for 20+ more seconds. It was really fun to try and figure out ways you could bait your opponent mid-fight and allow you to get big combos out while saving your auto dodge for when they try to attack back. Perfect block is ok, I don’t hate it but there is definitely some improvements that can be made. Lots of moves will stagger the animation so much that it doesn’t even teleport you away (e.g shindai clones) and sometimes the perfect block glitches and if it doesnt teleport you I’ve had it give me permanent invincibility (i’d guess something to do with the i frames it gives) I think the system could be better by adding both together autododge mid combo, autododges back to 2-2.5 second length, and PB maybe at 200-250k damage instead of 150k. Limit PB amount to 3-5 or give it some kinda cooldown, 1 minute-2 should be fine. Or just bring back autododge mid combo, that works too. Edited for spelling Edit 2: I also want to say that I don’t think bringing back autododge meta will fix EVERY problem but it does get rid of a lot of them. There will still be a lot of really powerful abilities and probably a lot of abilities that everyone will be using, but having an autododge you can use mid-combo should combat a lot of the spam 250k damage 4 ability combos that are kinda plaguing the game right now That’s my 2 cents, thanks for reading

@Lazar-ox5bd

Жыл бұрын

Rellgames HAD the idea of 4 sub logs per MATCH, autododge mid combo (non damage ones like dio senko and bankai) and 250k DMG till you can perfect block

Thats a reason why i like playing tournaments there is only few autodoges/counters you can use and small area

One thing I don’t like about this game is like once you get like a very op bl or element that you grinded hours! For it always just ends up getting nerfed which ruins all the fun.😢

I came after the auto-dodge update but I don't pvp just because of how annoying it is to fight people right now, hopefully RELL will take measures against this

i completely agree every bloodline in the game was somewhat useable when odin wolfs were meta which just made the game fun back when pvp didnt take half an hour and 20 counters and 5 combos to kill someone nowadays auto dodges are practically useless i miss when fast pace combat was a thing in this game when sub jutsus and tailed beasts and modes actually did something

I also started to not like pvp as much when autododge mid combo was removed

My main issue with the PvP in Shindo is there is little skill in it. Literally who can land there one shot combo first. Some game modes are an exception to this, and those modes are fun to me. But with X Arena and everywhere else- yeah...

@oh_tew

Ай бұрын

0 skill in Shindo pvp fr

I actually liked the perfect block system since back then whoever landed a move first would just get an instant win. Shindo pvp was just based around one shot combos which wasnt fun. I do agree with how the current meta of move spam and running is annoying asf. Ever since the ray kerada update it feels like i’ve been fighting the same people over and over again. This has always been a problem with shindo but it seems to be even worse now. Every 1v1 was always against someone using ray kerada, minakaze and powder.

@azwariargamakmur8782

Жыл бұрын

Yeah dude,too much powder, too much one shot combos, and too much bugs

@ninshustoryrpshindolifedis8613

Жыл бұрын

your opinion sucks Variety Jay. 150k perfect block system>>> ez repetitive one shot combos system

@azwariargamakmur8782

Жыл бұрын

@@ninshustoryrpshindolifedis8613 at least its fun

@goldyboi8220

Жыл бұрын

It's always powder and minakaze bro. Everyone uses powder, everyone spams mina 3rd, everyone mashes kerada 1st, so annoying.

@mikellmoore7242

Жыл бұрын

Lol ray karada is kinda broken but its not an

Only one thing too say... 100 % agree to what you said, since the 3rd gen tailed and the 10 tails rework, since the introduction of bloodlines like vengeance , i just don't have fun fighting people that just smash their keyboard to be invicible and one shot you so hope rell see this and do something about this ^^

@ninshustoryrpshindolifedis8613

Жыл бұрын

your opinion sucks Variety Jay. 150k perfect block system>>> ez repetitive one shot combos system

I don't really do pvp unless with my friends, I usually fight bosses, I respect your opinion Jay.

I stopped playing Arena X. It was my favorite place to pvp and it was the thing I played the most in Shindo. Sadly pvp for Shindo is just spam central, the danger thing sucks cause if you are stuck you can’t reset to unstuck yourself. No one really plays any of the game modes these days and honestly because of that I stopped doing pvp.

I agree 100%, I even noticed that their average player count dropped by 5-10k players daily, ever since they added the perfect block pvp system Edit: I do miss the old fast-paced pvp system, I do miss one shot cheeses which made the game fun

@meriamvillajos5421

Жыл бұрын

Yes i miss that 1 time when i got 1 shotted without me even hitting the person great time it was 👍👍

@wesleyayala6884

Жыл бұрын

@@meriamvillajos5421 what?

@SunnySunday50

Жыл бұрын

​@@meriamvillajos5421 Ye I kinda feel frustrated with that and I complained about it. But at least in that meta players knows how to double jump/dash/block and actually, it takes a little bit of skill unlike meta rn where you can spam hyper armor move meatball

@yatoyagami5454

Жыл бұрын

@@meriamvillajos5421 Bro just get an autododge, It was not that hard

@meriamvillajos5421

Жыл бұрын

@@yatoyagami5454 Oh i did after i lost to him a couple of times

In my opinion, Rellgames could fix this issue by adding a system where after a certain point, damage severely knockoff or like something at a certain point, you just don't take stun anymore. Just punishes the player using infinite and ridiculously long combos.

@TAKA-gs3ne

Жыл бұрын

Lol no bro tf you on

@AttendedBrushthe7th

Жыл бұрын

​@TAKA🖤 it makes sense tho, if there's littery no window of opportunity to get a combo in then what's the point.

I think RELLGames should add alot of health to the character combos are fine its just those one shot combos but yea love your vids man by the way!

9:09 I agree you’re not alone it was fun one shorting better than just getting stomped and then they run and stomp again then run so u can’t fight back

I try not to spam dagai wire and the mist thing but it's to the point in shindo pvp that if you dont, you just lose, theres nothing you can do anymore everything is too broken now, it'll have a 10 second stun or insane end lag or just 100k damage in 2 moves and that's just the tip of the ice berg. Its honestly depressing to see how far shindo life pvp has fallen. Seriously tho I just want to enjoy the game, I'm so sick of seeing ray and minakaze users in every server I join kill me then call me bad because I literally cant do anything. I miss when pvp was just fun and simple.

i have the same problem with shindo, its so hard to combo anyone and doing comboes for me is just impossible.. and most ppl just do random one shot comboes that are unfair. hope shindo makes comboes better!

The autododge mid combo system made the pvp slow at times because some people would base their whole moveset on s and autododge a and you why no chance to fight them for real, then when you actually get the chance they instantly break out. And people without autododge automatically lose since it’s almost required so you don’t get one shot. The perfect block shstem made the combat more back and forth though it still needs to be worked on

@ninshustoryrpshindolifedis8613

Жыл бұрын

your opinion sucks Variety Jay. 150k perfect block system>>> ez repetitive one shot combos system

@user-yj7vd3kd7s

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

U don't understand how long Ive waited for this video

The problem with this game is that the only things that updates adds are additional abilities, always making them better than others which downgrades these previous moves, forcing players to farm and grind for these new broken bloodlines, modes, etc. I remember the air combo update and that was a very creative way to upgrade normal M1s and rush, but has now turned into one of the most easiest ways to start one of the stupidest combos ever. In my opinion, with the amount of variety of elements, bloodlines, sub-abilities and weapons that there is, it will be very probable they'll have to remove some of them (since nowadays most of the bloodlines' existence consist of insanely long stuns) for the game's sake.

I remember raigo and Odin wolves meta. I think they need their old states back with burst combos now, and I want autos back D:

Agreed totally. I’ve been playing this game for like 2 years, and was so much better than the actual state, i don’t even rank up anymore lol i’m a MAX-287. I miss the old days, and since this update has come you literally instant loses to a 3x1/4x1.

I agree with jay on this one the perfect block update has ruined most of the pvp before the update people would have massive wars with 1 shot combos and now there's barely any wars happening in the game I really hope they revert the perfect block update

Honestly, I don't mind the Perfect Block system since I wasn't really the type to see getting one shot/infinite combo-ed as fun. OP stuff is still fun, don't get me wrong, but getting auto-combo-ed into an infinite because you either mistimed your autododge or was baited into using it isn't exactly my ideal of a good pvp system. I'd rather have a system where it does punish you but not to the point where it makes it so you couldn't fight back anymore, but that's just my preference. You can still do something similar with the Perfect Block system albeit having that 150k damage threshold. I 100% agree with runners and I-Frame attack moves being a problem in the game but I think it'll be a slight fix if they update travel moves to have a GCD and/or higher cooldown. Maybe even have these moves have shorter range/higher cost when in combat so people can still use it aggressively but can't run away. My thought process isn't perfect of course, so I'd like feedback or other ideas from others in what they think they can do to make PVP more enjoyable

i agree thats why i have not play shindo in mouths i am thinking to join back when the open world comes out

i agree to this whole video , not just that , last time i think that pvp is like a very fun thing but now i just think that its purely toxic and i stopped playing pvp modes and instead play team fights

I love how this came out hours after i just gave up on pvp The new weapon bypasses counters and guard along with oh idk the fact that multi bl users have s and hyperarmor moves on deck, run for like 3 seconds and can reset bypassing perfect block not only that maining meta or just having obnoxious movesets but eh even with move priorities are nonexistent most low lvl moves or normal tai moves have messed up hitboxes, things you hit phase through players etc etc i have more fun grinding one single gen 3 boss

Honestly I really enjoyed the perfect block system when it first came out Altho the backlash of counter spam, nerds and runners, it has really become unfun to play, especially since alot of these moves can "counter" the perfect block in some funky way Pvp now is so goofy sometimes since most people just - rush, burst, run away and wait for cooldowns Anytime i pvp with one of my friends, we just wonder wtf happened in that match with weird interactions and moves like ray first that's just a win button

I heavily agree with this just before I watched this I was in a 1v4 fight I remember I saw 2 people using Raion Ren, 1 person used Minakaze, 1 used Pika, and 1 used Raion Gaiden. I was using Raion Ren and Narumaki SP and I also I perfect blocked as much as I could and that fight lasted a WHILE. I killed each of them at least 3 times maybe more and because I kept perfect blocking they had time to revive, heal, and mode up again. I don't think they used perfect block but if they did that fight would have been way longer since it lasted around 5-7 minutes if they also used it it would have lasted about 7-10 maybe even 15 minutes. If perfect block wasn't a thing I would have died way earlier since I only had 2 Iframe abilities with my mode and Raion 2nd one does have a short cool down and the other an average length cool down. But the perfect block doesn't so I could spam it as much as I wanted and if you're wondering I did lose the fight but it was a long fight. And I can guess that they were very annoyed when I wasn't dying and just spamming perfect block. And even though I do it I will say it is annoying to fight someone who spams it as much as they can and fights can last a LONG time if it's two or even just one person spamming it. On top of that when you run away to heal or charge chi it also stalls the fight out and I do that a lot as well and I will say that spamming perfect block and running to heal/charge chi a lot can really make the fights long

after the 10 minute timer it would be cool if both players were tped to a structured area and the game didn’t let them use abilities and gives them like 30 secs and to choose any weapon in the game that they could use and that weapon only(not including senko kunai or Dagai wire)

i can relate to so much he said about the pvp system and yes i agree with these opinions its just not fair anymore considering that they added pb system into the game its just not that fun anymore

Gotta admit, I'm not really a fan of the current meta at all, but one shot meta was on another level of disgusting. It didn't take any skill to pull off the combos whatsoever and it was very frustrating and it will still be frustrating if they were to implement it again ESPECIALLY in a competitive setting. The whole purpose of competitive is to test your skill against other players and improve by fighting them, how am I improving at the game if I just get one shot the moment I spawn? At least with the current meta I can still learn new things even if I'm fighting the same moveset over and over, think about it - as an example - if you fight a Ray Kerada user and lose then you'd say to yourself "which move counters his move?" and just try different things until you find something good, whether it be a move or another strategy. And that is allowed because you don't get instantly ran over by a one shot combo. If I were to face a Shindai clones+Raion pull one shot user back in the day I'd just know that I lose from the start of the match and hope that next game I'm not against a player using the same thing since the combo can't be countered. And don't get me wrong, the perfect block system may not be perfect, it definitely has its flows especially the 150k bypass move spam, but it also has its upsides - it gives you a little bit of time to plan and think how you should proceed with the match while also maintaining the fast pace of the game, of course - if the person who's blocking is using things such as senko kunai, azim kunai, dagai wire etc. to run then that's really not a problem of the perfect block system itself, I think the easiest thing the devs can do about that is just ban these weapons from competitive and that just brings us to the next point - I honestly don't believe perfect block is the main reason why PvP feels bad, it's just that all current meta moves are like 10 tiers above everything else and the creators keep making moves which are toxic for the competitive side of the game without proper balance. RELL are focusing only on the most good-looking bloodlines and weapons, trying to make them appeal to the average player, ruining competitive PvP in the process. Just look at twitter and the discord balancing vote - most RPG players want to look cool and strong to their friends while using Minakaze or their favourite One Piece bloodline or whatever and RELL tries to appeal to them since they bring in the most cash. A possible solution may be: Balance competitive separately from RPG with a whole other Competitive Balance Team, keep the popular RPG bloodlines strong in RPG if that's what you want, but make them fair in the competitive side of the game.

I totally Agree, but I think that the fact that they are 2 Devs doing such a GOOD game and trying hard to make it as fun as possible and that they do WEEKLY updates that are so nice and have a lot of content unlike many other roblox games they dont deserve hate on theire pvp system but it is just like u said.

I totally agree with I use to LOVE and I mean LOVE shindo life pvp the bloodlines were so fun to use but ever since they added huge nerfs to all the fun bloodlines it hasn’t been has fun anymore I still play pvp I just don’t enjoy as much Main reason I don’t play it as much is bc they nerfed the bloodlines I used to reck people with

I personally didn't like either the autododge nor the perfect block update, while I agreed with your takes on the perfect block system, the issue with the autododge update was that it was not that hard to bait out a autododge, and with the sheer amount of easy to hit combo starters all they would have to do is wait for you to use your autododge and then proceed to hit you with another combo starter which would allow them to infinite combo you. It just was not fun knowing the only thing stopping you from getting one comboed was a single skill and once that skill is on cooldown they can use any combo starter they have on their kit to inf combo you, and this is even worse now where there is even more broken combo starters in the game.

@VarietyJay

Жыл бұрын

There were a TON of different types of autododges you could pop mid combo, not just the type where you avoid attacks, the beauty of the autododge mid combo was that if you knew when to use it, you could easily escape. It was a meta where running wasn't a very good strategy and combat was significantly faster

@aroach1630

Жыл бұрын

@@VarietyJay Thats not what im talking about. Im talking about how easy it is nowadays to put on a few easy combo starters and take advantage of their cooldown to land a easy one combo, as Rell continues to put moves like fog dissolution of global cooldown it would become harder to re-impliment a auto dodge system back and make it function.

That's why I quit this game, which I once considered the best in pvp, now there is no interest left to play it, I literally fight with the same people who do the same thing, use 3-4 AutoDodge or constantly spam, a lot of abilities that instantly break the block and CD they have fast, they literally every 10 seconds they do the same combo

Ever since you ever started your first blow fruits video I started playing and blow fruits is really good I started delaying shindo and I feel like I’ve quit shindo now but honest I’ll come back in 2 months with new stuff

I personally really just loved when Shindai akuma 2nd had the massive AOE. it would take over the entire leaf village. I loved that, but now im just, eh

i been doing pvp since the game was called shinobi life and i still enjoy the combat beacuse it just have a build that can counter other builds, moves and stuff like that is just have some knowledge about every bloodline/element in the game (i changed my moveset atleast 30 times)

As a mobile player who only boss hunts for scrolls, it’s kind of sad to see this video

As the saying goes all good things must come to a end

I appreciate the holiday goal, but pls man. At least wait until freaking NOVEMBER is over lmao. Also, I haven't done much pvp in Shindo as much, but in comparison to other games like yba or gpo it seems more overly complex and difficult to refine your own moveset than those games. In those games, you have one fruit or stand ability that gives you plenty of moves, and a fighting style / weapon that provides more utility to all stands and fruits in the respective games. In shindo, you can have rennegan, sharingan, byakugan, and be the jinjuriki of two tailed beasts, while using abilities that are only usable by shizens or other clans woth specific elemental kgs. Its not as uniform as yba, where stands have many abilities in of themselves that give them their own identity, or gpo where fruits have a handful of abilities and fighting styles / weapons help to build cool and satisfying combos that feel super unique to yourself at times! Not to mention those games have a higher emphasis on experimenting with stat points, with a more limited total pool of points to make unique builds, as opposed to maxing everything and having the same stat build as everyone else due to mentors.

this is so true bro like I played shinbo life and shindo am a og and this is true w vid rellgames make pvp fun again

Honestly, running is meta now. Its just ray kerada first, combo, use stone barrage mid combo to charge chi and then run. Repeat this till u win

Shindai akuma and Raion rengoku meta was the funnest i ever got in the game. Legit I became a kenichi and jashin main lol

I also don’t like perfect block system, tbh as you stated you expected to get one shot but it was fun

I hate this update because im a giant taijutsu nerd and I love the feel of my fists slamming against their face. I can’t do any long combos or damaging combos with taijutsu due to the PB update. I miss the autododge because I could always just stagger my M1s to bait it. The running and meta is especially bad for me because I feel like I’m limited to only ranged options in a NARUTO GAME.

@oh_tew

Ай бұрын

exactly. im a big fan of Rock Lee from the show because he doesn't even need jutsu or anything. the man just stands on business and is ready to throw hands with anybody. i wanted to emulate that in Shindo life because i think using your hands as weapons in a world where people can shoot fire and lightning and doing well would be satisfying. but there's so much running spam that trying to get close to go hand to hand is just a death sentence for you

i just hate that perfect block sistem don't help. And there are a lot of things that can ignore that sistem to make a total oneshot combo with this annoying meta

What he said is true... Just spam and run and auto doges got replaced, by block and comp ect, but They spam Shindai minakaze ray and wtvr

I agree the perfect block system has messed up pvp!

The m1 oneshot combo era was probably my favorite shindo era, every pvp match would be two people doing mindgames and one slip or blockbreak deciding the entire match, matches were quick and simple. Even autododges that were useable midcombo were counterable with certain moves and combos, people that often complained about that era most of the time tried to stall out fights or had horrible neutral game. Yes it wasnt perfect, but it was far better than the current state of the game

@Lazar-ox5bd

Жыл бұрын

I mean to a new player it would be really annoying because they pretty much would get butchered by a 1shot combo, perfect block in my opinion would be better as 1 sub log or 2 per life instead of having 5 with Jiso

@THEEFOSA6480

Жыл бұрын

@@Lazar-ox5bd back then you could just get better at the game. Right now if you just eye frame spam you can't even loose.

@Lazar-ox5bd

Жыл бұрын

@@THEEFOSA6480 basically nobody's game

@THEEFOSA6480

Жыл бұрын

@@Lazar-ox5bd yes. When it's a game based on an anime of strategy and power balance. What a joke.

@Lazar-ox5bd

Жыл бұрын

@@THEEFOSA6480 *I mean, nowadays it's a nobody's game*

Really and truly it’s sad seeing pvp in this state. Playing the original shinobi life back in 2018 was fun because you could be successful with any kg or mode because every move was either a one shot or it did half of ur hp (yes I did enjoy using carianagan and causing havoc in servers). Unbalanced, but still fun, because you could use what you genuinely enjoyed playing with and still have success in PvP cuz odds are it one shotted ppl. It felt like a sandbox game for me and that’s what my friends and I enjoyed abt it so much. Even pvp at the start of shinobi life two was rather fine because although everyone spammed namikaze rasengan and lightning cloak, it was not that bad given the bloodlines and subjutsus at the time all had some sort of niche in their own way. It wasn’t until shindai akuma until I recognized the massive power creep starting to occur in the game. I kept playing, however, as I expected the issue to not amplify in the future. But here we are. Shindo life pvp is atrocious. By far the worst state of pvp I’ve seen in all the games I played by rell (Nindo OA, Gaiden, then Shinobi life, and finally shindo) and really it’s so sad. I can’t say how annoying it is to demonstrate any sort of skill in this game and get countered by two moves because broken Iframe lol! all I would say is for rell to either tone down these new bloodlines significantly or even to rework the perfect block system entirely. Even if both of these get done, there’s still the issue with the consistent running I see anytime I go to comp. Make those meta moves with higher versatility with higher cooldowns to balance them. Inversely, make those moves in the game that are older with lower cooldowns to at least give them a reason to be used. But those are my thoughts.. it’s likely we will never get a game like nindo or 2016’s shinobi life again.

@oh_tew

Ай бұрын

Shindo life PVP is what happens when you prioritize content over balance. the Rell bros just kept trying to up the ante by releasing flashy and op bloodlines, each more insane than the last, and now what we have is 150 bloodlines, none of them are balanced, and its very obvious that the newer BLs are way more powerful. the powercreep has gotten out of control and it really doesnt even make me want to play

I've been playing this game since it came out, you can belive me or not but ill just say that so I have a good idea of the game. I have played almost every day except when I broke my arm and spent almost every minute playing doing pvp. The pvp system in this game had some fun parts, I would say the auto dodge during combos was my favorite time as there were so many things you could do. I was optimistic about the 150k sub out change at the start, however, recently its been showing just how bad it is with people using as many counters as they can fill up in their slots and calling people trash. Comp is fine, however, people constantly leave when they realize they are getting destroyed and the only way you can truly win against others nowadays is to use the best stuff in the game in comp. Since everyone wants to win in comp, everyone is using the most op stuff which leaves little room to use what is fun for the individual player. I love Shindo life but the recent changes are making me want to stop playing and go to a game like overwatch or Minecraft again.

all they need to do is prevent players from running away after pb most loadouts can't fight that bs and nerf uncounterable combo starters oh and unescapable tai moves and tai moves that STILL hit when you use a move before them

My opinion on Shindo Life System. Chapter one : The Introductions ____________________________________________________________________________________ Here is one of main thing's that's wrong with shindo is the perfect block system it's still flawed by grabs such as pyromania 4th move which ignores block which automatically forces the victim to turn them around. Also the other issue is elements/bloodlines which completely ignores s here few are Acid, Pyromania, Headless, Inferno and others. Then you have moves that have the wrong the wrong gcd (Global CoolDown) Such Shindai Akuma Lighting, Chidori (Lighting Element) Water Prison, Snakeman 2nd Raion Rengoku 1st and few more which has Gcd11 "close range stun" . What's wrong the Gcd you may ask you have to be up close for it to hit yet it count's as a number stun. Next is the issues can can be caused by Pyromania 5th or 6th move, Headless counter, and 2nd move, Sarachia bloodlines/boss/companion and most moves with englag. Running isn't a big issue but moves such as Azim Kunai, Dagai Wire and Senko Kunai should have a cooldown of 20 but it starts after you teleport to prevent it from being spammed. Chapter Two : The Unbearable Lag _________________________________________________________________________________________ Here is one of main thing's that's wrong with shindo is Way's the counter act these issues. Lag, there should be option if you want to see the old or new effect's/ mode animations which some computer's can't handle due to fighting which will rise up you're ping from particles that's programmed in the game. Englag, Moves with endlag should have the lag reduced to half 0.5 or 1 second with a other option of removing it completely. Giving reach jutsu their correct Gcd (Global Cooldown) test the move range and distance before publishing it publicly. Overall these can help the game by alot to run smoother for low end devices. Chapter 3: The Conclusion _________________________________________________________________________________________ Devices, I think there should be a feature for every device on what type of server they can go too such as a only Mobile Server/Xbox and Pc/Computers . In my option this will be add organization to the game for players to make pvp a bit more fair and clean. Hopefully they will be some changes reguarding to this if they aren't I'm afraid the game the will die off like Slayer's Unleashed, Rumble Quest and a few more. Thank you for reading this. Sincerely, ICanSoloEveryVerse.😊

I have no experience with the old combat system as I didn't have much skills back then, all my pvp gameplays were eating chips while watching people doing a 1 minute long combo cuz I missed my combo starter. So here's my opinion on things in this video The perfect block system, guess I'm just different but I like it. idk how fun the old one but I prefer getting 150k+ dmg then fight back than getting an infinite combo. The runner is uhh I have no problem with them since whenever they run I either throw dagai wire to chase or use long range moves to cancel their heal, or simply do burst combo. If devs can do anything in this situation, simply ban dagai wire and azim dagai, they are meant for traveling not for running. In recent weeks devs team has done some questionable stuffs to me. New bl like ray kerada will get nerfed like 1 2 weeks later so me no problem with that. But rare bls in general should be somewhat useful not to the point like narumaki which has no usable move except mode. And oh boi odin shock wolf and ashen raigo, those were short but wonderful memories, they are 2 subjustus that I had the most fun with. 10/10 recomend rell games bring them back.

The dagai wire and senko kunai can also be used as pvp, i always use dagai wire to grapple to the player after a combo and then i can attack even after the attack so it basicly extends combos is the player doesn't have a fast reaction time or a macro on their counter, and for senko kunai, you can just dodge attacks and then attack them right after they miss their attack or you can hit them with the kunai and teleport to them if they let their guard down and start a combo on them but for everything else i can agree with. [OOTC]-

@Zeonyth

Жыл бұрын

tbh i don't pvp much anymore except if its a 4v1 against me, then its actually fun. [OOTC]-

I ain't gonna lie... During the m1 combo meta, it was hella fun using a inf m1 combo

@susspec8310

Жыл бұрын

ok you have fun with an unbalanced game, 150k parry system is even better

I love the fact that he just ran a round for a few minutes doing random stuff and going to random placew

Let's go Santa jay, I hope my Christmas wish will come true

and use ragnar deva rengoku and i use combos taijustu arts, element combos, but a minakaze user comes and cuts my whole combo with an attack that takes out all the life, it is very difficult to use a counter and on top of that it takes out a lot of life

I feel like the taijusu body dodge and powder just singlehandedly ruined the entire pvp system. It sometimes feels like the dev purposefully added taijutsu auto dodge out of spite to ruin the combat experience.

@Dangityoulilshi

Жыл бұрын

They added powder... pvp is just unplayable for now

@oh_tew

Ай бұрын

makes you wonder if the Rell bros actually frequently play pvp in their own game

I have'nt played in the time of the 1-shot meta but i dont think i wanna have it return to the game. I'd rather have a system where pure dmg moves are on a relatively low cooldown, and autododges and s be on a higher cool down. But for that to work rell would have to remove i frames from ALOT of moves. Also things like genjutsus should be more on the higher cooldown side to make them more like OP ultimate moves. this system would allow for actual fights with the bloodlinse you like and not just s spam, passive play and burst combos.

I don't enjoy the pvp in the pvp modes because I feel like if I want to win I have to turn off my creativity like everyone else you fight one person and you've basically fought 80% of the playerbase's moveset it's boring to fight against and I can't just have fun building a moveset around a certain thing like the ketsuryugan

@innovation_s6079

Жыл бұрын

also I'm excited for the open world since at least from my understanding people aren't going to be able to have their full just bullshit stuff which will hopefully make people get creative with their loadouts again

@oh_tew

Ай бұрын

no matter what game, no matter how much freedom you have in your abilities, no matter how expansive and vast the skills are, there are always braindead meta slaves that want to copy whatever meta cookie cutter build will get them ez wins and i just dont get it. its so much more fun to experiment with whats fun and do better that way. but meta slaves ruin every single game they infest

Not even gonna lie the last time I pvped in a public server or even comp was b4 the perfect block system, and judging from the feedback from the perfect block system I never felt like doing pvp again lol.

Variety I agree with u about every u said cus shindo life was extremely popular now it get alot less of what it used to after the perfect block update everything fun in the game became so unusable now

The reason I quit blocks fruit they scanned us on an update and they said this thing was going to get remastered so that's why I quit the game and play shindo life!

Very true the autododge and Iframes are sooo annoying and very not fun I agree with you

I played shindo during its 100th update, and I've had alot of fun. The game actually took skill for me to play and I didn't know anything, I was weak and had no knowledge of pvp or anything and that's what made It fun. BUT with the addition of these bloodlines and the nerfs, I stopped playing shindo because the pvp is boring. I've played shindo for 3 years (and spent 250 robux) and I think It's time I let shindo life go. I've had fun but one piece is waiting for me

I still like shindo life but I only play it with friends to make the game more fun like we test out combos help each other grind and other stuff

Imo the Perfect block system was perfect to me. Before the system if you got hit you instantly lost and you had to pray that your opponent messes up their combo. Now you can actually get to fight back instead of instantly losing and not getting any chances to atleast land one move.

@deletoblue1436

Жыл бұрын

No

@elendoso

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I would be more skeptical about perfect block if the game wasnt just filled with moves that just link one to another. Specially grabs. Why are there so many grabs that lead to grabs to more grabs to yet another grab to- you get the point

@chill562

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@adrianurminsky7118

Жыл бұрын

Oh yea sure, if we dont count the current 200k dmg burst combos wich you cant get out of with perfect block because the block is too slow and does not trigger

@3Trust

Жыл бұрын

Probably trash

the sad thing is I asked my friend 2 years ago why mink race was the best in blox fruits and he said it’s cause u can run away from any fight;-;

In my opinion I liked the perfect block because each time someone hit me I knew that was the end and there was nothing I could do

The meta was at its peak when the fate spirits were actually meta imo. M1 combos were also very fun for me.

@Eaaports

Жыл бұрын

i miss dunes fate man

yea its really sad when you cant oneshot everyone