'I freaking want that watch' - On Fire Brands - The Watch Nuts Horological Musings Episode 11
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Rob and I talk about a few watch brands doing really good things.
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0:00 - 3:03 Cartier
3:03 - 7:19 Longines
7:19 - 8:19 Tudor?
8:19 - 11:55 Studio Underd0g
11:55 - 13:33 Closing Thoughts
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Wow thanks guys - I'm glad to hear you like my approach to the industry! Cheers, Richard PS: It was 5930 watches during the 9 hour pre-order window 🤯
@SaltyWatchCollector
21 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Keep pumping the positive vibes into the industry
@BruceWilliams
21 күн бұрын
So many! I love to hear it. Thanks for watching and commenting Richard 👊
Tudor is mainly all about black bay and their chronograph (other models not that impressive). On the other hand Longines is killing it with new releases like Zulu time 39mm heritage chronograph hydroconquest GMT conquest 38mm. Personally I feel Longines is taking a step ahead of Tudor
This series always made me smile everytime I see it on my subscription feed. The adult Theo & Harris 😊
@BruceWilliams
21 күн бұрын
We chat like this all the time. Good thing we decided to start filming and posting. It's fun
@GrumblingForesight
21 күн бұрын
@@BruceWilliams we’re grateful for it :) feel free to record more of your impromptu chats we’d watch em all!
Cartier and Tudor are killing it right now for a simple reason that they’re priced correctly. So many brands (like Omega) are priced too high and it shows in the grey market
@patrickhanks9049
22 күн бұрын
Cartier is killing it because of their timeless and iconic designs. Like the Porsche advertising slogan: “There is no substitute.” Brand and design ftw. Not so much for their pricing, in my opinion. That is the only reason I haven’t bought one yet.
@pormusic
22 күн бұрын
OMEGA are vastly superior than Cartier/Tudor in terms of history, achievements and movement quality.
@lamentate07
22 күн бұрын
@@patrickhanks9049 Yes. Their movements are generally basic and they have many quartz watches.
@SB-Kiwi
22 күн бұрын
@@pormusic💯
100% longines is on par with Tudor. They are different though. Tudor is all about the dive watch which is the craze. Longines has a much wider catalog and as a result, more misses. Tudor is overhyped due to its perceived connection to Rolex. And i own both. Dress watches, longines master and flagship. Field watches, longines spirit. Sport watches, longines conquest. Chronos, longines heritage, conquest, spirit flyback.
I wish Cartier would invest into better movements. Love my Santos Medium, but damn it’s dying for a more reliable movement and larger power reserve. My Longines Hyrdroconquest GMT Sunray Brown was my first semi-HI End purchase, and it’s been amazing.
Well, not much into Cartier because I don't dress up but I appreciate how nice they are. I could use one for the occasions where I get into a suit every 12-15 years. Longines and Tudor have never excited me but I appreciate that they are solid entry/mid-level luxury watches. Micros are always a nice diversion and it's nice to retreat into this space when you cycle off of buying the more expensive stuff. It scratches the itch and sometimes you even end up with some keepers! Brands that are "Killing it"? I don't know. I'm never drawn to the "latest and greatest". My more expensive watches are typically stuff with staying power, that have been out for a while.
Glad I picked up a Longines Conquest Heritage 35mm for £600 about 12 years ago. The new prices are not even close to being worth it....
When I grew up in the 60s, Longines was the most prestigious watch brand.
yeah, those UK guys are very creative. I mean, the Bel Canto is a beauty. And Studio Underdog is just amazing. Farer is also at that level (i mean, their moonphase is so cool.) The only problem with these UK microbrands is that as soon as they are released, they get sold out.
I believe that Sinn is developing magnificently. They bring out so many new models and continue to develop their collection in terms of technology and design. One example is the new Sinn 903 ST, which is technically far superior to the Breitling Navitimer. Technology and design at a still acceptable price.
@royernest7740
22 күн бұрын
I just ordered my 903 ST II this morning.
@Martinhauer
22 күн бұрын
Congratulations, I bought the limited edition, but it will be a while before I get my hands on it. How is the delivery time for xie xie and which color did you choose?
Longines still use the worst, cheapest and nastiest watch pins (cotter pins) in their bracelets, which automatically disqualifies them for me. Only $100 watches have them now. The benchmark starter brands for me are the usual Casio + Citizen + Seiko and none of them use cotter pins any more - I believe all their base models use the pin+bushing method. Cotter pins on the other hand are friction fit to the bracelet links and gradually wear out the hole making it bigger and eventually the entire link becomes useless. Plus cotter pins split in half after about 5 years.
I've had hands on with the monochrome Black Bay a couple of times, once in Hawai'i and again in Minnesota. It's nice, but it really didn't make me want to pull out my wallet. But when I tried on the Spirit Zulu Time you had for review, I knew I had to buy that watch. Just a thought. The first day, when I tried the Black Bay in Honolulu, I ultimately purchased a very nice Planet Ocean that day, I just like it a lot better. Tudor is a lot like Rolex to me. I want to like them because everyone tells me I have to and I'd love to fit in, but I just can't find a watch in their range that I really want...
I would rather have a Sinn than a Longines. Also, anOrdain is killing it.
You didn’t mention IWC. Not hugely popular but they seem to be putting out some great models.
Cartier & Longines for the win.
Exiting this channel
Come on Bruce 🤦🏻♂️, the must bracelet is hideous, the strap man the strap!
@m4ttyp4nts
21 күн бұрын
indeed. tanks *must* be on straps.
@BruceWilliams
21 күн бұрын
Straps are easier to get afterward. Unlike the bracelets haha
CW?
Not a more overated watch brand than Cartier! Exorbitant prices for crap movements and blah looks for the most part..
i thought the monochrome was underwhelming in person. i don't know what it is, just didn't click for me. I've had 3 Tudors and I can't keep them, because they seem to lack character even though they virtually stand alone in what they offer. Longines seems exciting. Maybe it's the brand name that influences my perception, old reliable versus the prospect (even though Longines has been around, their new era is emerging)
TAG is on a roll. I'd expect tag to be on way more people's radar in a year or two..
Nice conversation guys! As always. Thanks!
What is the watch in the center of the thumbnail image? Really disappointing that you used it for the thumbnail but didn't talk about it at all in the video!
@stevemoreno6241
22 күн бұрын
It's the Longines Heritage Chronograph. It's a monopusher chrono.
@BruceWilliams
21 күн бұрын
I tried to find a Pic of mine that showed multiple longines
I like this Bruce. Casual discussion and in-depth discussion. 👍🏻👍🏻
Like this discussion format. Keep up the good work. Agree that Longines are releasing interesting new pieces. Cartier seem to be offering new colors more than anything truly original. I ordered three Studio Underdogs on the same day and there were so many other people placing orders that deliveries are spread out over four months. Got the first one and it is great.
Longines is better than Tudor. Tudor got no heritage at all. Heck Rolex doesn’t have the weight Longines lifts with its amazing history.
I totally don't get the Studio Underdog hype. To me, they look like cheap silly Swatch watches. I can't imagine people will actually wear these after the hype dies down.
Love these Horological Musings
All your points are correct. GS is great, and they have the upper hand on case beveling and polishing, plus a few extraordinary movements, but it’s no competition for Rolex overall.
I have the Longines master collection moonphase and it’s awesome. I’ve played the Rolex AD game for a year and will put the new Tudor mono black top of my list and keep the £5k
JLC……
A review of Envision Prisma would be so cool. Please.
Don’t get the hype. Cartier does nothing for me. Same with RM
Longines way better then Tudor.
Add Moels to the list of microbrands. I can't buy the Audemars Piguet Remaster 02; I can't even buy the brutalist watch designed by Phil Toledano. But I can buy the Moels 528 because it is only 900 dollars and has a daring design.
Best Micro brand goes to Wise . Longines excellent value for money .. I own the retrograde moonphase from the master collection.. It’s unbelievably killing it ..❤
What model Cartier are you wearing?
Tudor are a frustrating watch company you can’t get a date on the black bay unless you buy the gmt versions or gold versions or the one that has war and peace written on the dial can’t get over that way too big snowflake hand
Christopher Ward definitely, on the high end Moser, Parmigiani
longines is way better than Tudor-they have hundreds of patents and inventions-totally original not a rolex child.
@jerryglasses2229
23 күн бұрын
Tudor is a homage brand
@wristroll_vlad
23 күн бұрын
Well that’s just your opinion. Longines may have the patents, Tudor has the watches that people like.
@Andy-ys8sj
23 күн бұрын
People who buy rolex know nothing about watches, people who buy tudor think their buying a cheaper rolex and know even less than rolex buyers
@Canteaus
23 күн бұрын
Lol, I'm a fan of both Tudor and Longines but the way you guys are bashing Tudor is stupid. You want to talk about Longines with the same stupid logic? Longines was a dead brand that was bought out by the swatch group and is now just spitting out archival designs with poor-fitting large proportions. Business-wise, the brand exists to target the range of tissot/hamiliton price-range buyers (both also swatch group) with nothing made in-house. It's a brand used to make buyers feel like they are buying a watch with pedigree (which it has) but nothing about the modern iteration of the brand stands on its own.
@wristroll_vlad
23 күн бұрын
@@Andy-ys8sj and you don’t know what you’re talking about
cartier is a very strong brand with poor quality products. NONE of the cartier watches i came across ever stood up to the macro test, every single one of cartier watches look super rough under macro . fit and finish is simply not acceptable for the watch industry. for that simple reason, cartier is in my heart, but never in my collection.
I think Tudor is probably a better value because it will retain value over Longines. ButI don't find Tudors to be that attractive looking. Longines has some stunning looking watches.
They're all longines
But what are the watches from the thumbnail. I clicked for them and i think none were discussed 🥲
@jhurt3824
22 күн бұрын
All are longines
@OCD.Reader
22 күн бұрын
@@jhurt3824 oh thank you so much. I am embarrassed that I dont know any of them despite my false belief of being rather familiar with longines' catalogue.
They're all longines