I Found the PERFECT Pro Controller… but They Messed it Up | MACHENIKE G6 Honest Review
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Someone made the controller I've been looking for! Clicky buttons & D-Pad, 2 rear buttons, 3 stage trigger stops, and best of all Hall-Effect thumbsticks all for $70. But nothing works as it should. Hopefully Machenike can get it together and produce a work of art, as all the pieces are already here. This turd simply needs polishing!
Timestamps
0:00 - 1:06 Intro
1:06 - 2:48 RAID Sponsor
2:48 - 3:45 Battery, Connection & Polling Rate
3:45 - 4:37 Hall Sensor Thumbsticks
4:37 - 5:23 Clicky ABXY & D-Pad Buttons
5:23 - 6:03 2 Rear Buttons & Software
6:03 - 6:37 3-Way Trigger Stops
6:37 - 8:25 Conclusion
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@cureforboredom9719
Жыл бұрын
You're one of the few youtubers I'd say gets a pass to take a raid sponsorship. Rake it in man, good for you.
@ChoongYeow
Жыл бұрын
Kaiser Do Stuff mention there is a firmware to fix the square analog calibration.
@litfamnick5453
Жыл бұрын
You should have a gaming channel
@litfamnick5453
Жыл бұрын
@llify trust
@litfamnick5453
Жыл бұрын
@llify nvm
UPDATE 1: I've since retested the polling rate on XinputTest and am getting better results. The wired is mega inconsistent (1.9-4ms) averaging around 250hz but it isn't as bad as the wireless. UPDATE 2: I found the switches in the D-Pad! They're the Kalih cmi873101s106 from what I was able to find and they're rated for 3 million clicks!
You are the only KZreadr i dont skip the Raid Add. Because the worth of your infos are this good. Stay objective and you have a life long fan.
Ty boss, don't worry about sponsoring, we appreciate the content keep it up
😂 ❤ LMAO! I needed this. Bruh had me rolling with the sponsor, actually sounded like you tried playing it. I love the actual brutal honesty of the breakdown in the review ❤. Can't say I have anything to suggest tbh... I play my switch abit and afew pointers would've helped with selecting a good joy-con. Been really enjoying my kingkong pro 2 (thx bro) and just picked up a hori compact 👍
I’m just an old son of a bitch that likes to game once in a while so no one should listen to me just cuz I’m talkin, but boss if I could tell ya one thing, it would be GET THEM CHECKS AND KEEP GETTIN THEM CHECKS. Your viewership/fan base is here for the content. I personally got no problem watchin YT ads if it means money in someone’s pocket. You said it yourself, this is your JOB. So get paid. Every nickel that your moral and ethical values allow you too. There ain’t no difference between leaving $20 on the table and takin a $20 bill outta your wallet and setting it on fire. You wouldn’t get sponsored if you hadn’t already created that value for yourself. So don’t devalue your work. Sorry bout the rant. Best of luck either way
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@quidaccidit1107
Жыл бұрын
@@vCuda 100% agree with what he said. You make the best controller reviews on KZread because you say what you think and you also take the time to actually use the controllers before reviewing them. I have absolutely no problem skipping through a few seconds of ads if it means that you get to keep making these awesome videos. I'm sure most people feel the same way.
seems like all their money went into hardware with little to none left for actual development of software tuning and features. also this needs a 4 button variant and I would snag in a heart beat if they fix their software issues ofc. great vid
@mrsickwick
Жыл бұрын
Same, fix the glaring issues and add two more buttons on back and I am 110% sold.
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
This review is trash… I bought the controller and there is a firmware update that you can do using the phone app that literally fixes all of the software problems…
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
@@mrsickwick the issues regarding the software are fixed, you just need to update the firmware using the phone app which he didn’t do
@joshuwottdelta
Жыл бұрын
@@enderspider5001 since there's no more current reviews of this controller I'll as you, how much does the update fix? How's the deadzone now? And how's the pulling rate now?
@guilhermemendes1711
Жыл бұрын
@@enderspider5001 hi friend, I'm seriously thinking about buying the controller, was the problem on the left stick solved with the update?
If a sponsor means you make more content. Hell yes. You're honesty and humor is what I want more of. But a well made controller would also be great too. I currently use the king Kong 2 pro
congratulations on getting a Sponsorship
When will these companies learn that 2 back triggers is not enough
@DieiNoctis
Жыл бұрын
Every controller I've tried since using a Razer Wolverine V2 Chroma has made me miss the extra pair of shoulder remappable buttons. I can't believe no other controllers are using them. Too bad I tried 4 of the Razer controllers and all of them had QA problems.
@MikeTheSe7enth
Жыл бұрын
@@DieiNoctis Razer is garbo, the new chroma for PS5 is literal garbage, their support is garbage, if you need 4+ extra buttons, the Elite Series 2 with its shift key functionality is SSS tier. Then again, it's the XSX2 which has it's own problems. Personally my only gripe about it is the sticks are xbox style, which leads to pain in the left middle finger from how the hands sit on the controller, along the lack of ergonomic design for the hands (the controller has no curve on the bottom side)
@DieiNoctis
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeTheSe7enth Razer makes great if overpriced peripherals, in concept, except that they have absolutely trash QA. I love my naga pro, but I think I went through 6 of them before I found one without manufacture defects. Maybe I'm just picky. The Elite Series 2 has notoriously bad build quality, which is unfortunate because it is otherwise a pleasant controller to use. I won't touch anything resembling a dualsense with a battery life shorter than my attention span. Specifically though I wish people would poach the third shoulder button configuration from Razer and put it on a better controller.
@MikeTheSe7enth
Жыл бұрын
@@DieiNoctis I had 2 wolverine ultimates, got them both refurbished and each lasted me ~1yr. They were excellent, except, like the xsx2, cause left middle finger nerve damage. In terms of ps5 controllers, Victrix bfg pro is the #2 controller of all time, it's straight up perfect minus the shape of the triggers. Only reason I don't rank it #1 is because currently the software doesn't allow for a shift key functionality like the xsx2. The xsx2 is amazing idc what anyone says, but I did get a GREAT one on my 1st attempt. I think the build quality is great but maybe the QA was mid.
@MikeTheSe7enth
Жыл бұрын
@@DieiNoctis also, a battery life shorter than your attention span? Bro I would do anything to have an attention span that lasts as long as any of the dualsense controllers, holy shit you're blessed.
Hi! I truly enjoy your brutally honest, no bullshit reviews that always include a teaspoon of cynicism and a pinch of self deprecation. Brilliant!! Will you be reviewing the Power A Fusion Pro 3?
Why is it so hard for someone to make a perfect controller, I'd spend any amount if it was built to last
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
the issues regarding the software are fixed, you just need to update the firmware using the phone app which he didn’t do
@percy4209
Жыл бұрын
@@enderspider5001 I really really like vCuda and his content, but he's been lacking on his research for so many different things lately.
On some pads you can switch between square and circle for the analogue sticks, maybe one of the function buttons does that? No idea what situation that would be better for but it's a thing.
very entertaining review. thanks for this
Hey man, nobody here should mind the sponsorship, especially on a smaller channel. Just means more content because more income. Keep it up!
😂 some how i forgot what was the video about after the meme outro To be honest to u r the most honest one about their reviews Your fan from EGYPT
DUDE CONGRATS ON THE RAID SPONSORSHIP!
I think that the right stick is setup for fighter games. I seen this also on another Hall Effect controller and you have to set it up to be for a circle instead of a square. Hopefully they got back to you.
Nice vid! Can you do a review of the DarkWalker ShotPad FPS Touchpad Game Controller? Definitely interested in your thoughts. Thanks!
Great video bro!
The new PowerA is out I can't wait to see review on this.
4:11 "My theory is that" lol
Found a controller you may like has hall effects sticks with 2 back paddles. Its the Gamesir T4 Kaleid
When I saw the title and thumbnail I was like "ah man was my victrix gambit purchase a mistake? 😭" But after watching the video I see that it was definitely not a mistake. Which makes me happy. "The response time has Alzheimer's" 😂🤣💀
There is a firmware u can get by emailing them to tweak the analog calibration to feels better. Kaiser Do Stuff review it in more detail after flashing the firmware.
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
You don’t even have to email them, using the phone app you can update the firmware and all of the software problems get fixed
Also.. waiting to hear about kaleid t4 my dude
Should I get the G5 pro V2 or G6 Pro?? The price range is very similar here
Could you review the g6 pro?
The channel kaiser do stuff says you can update the controllers hardware to fix the left stick.
Vcuda can you review the power A fusion pro 3? Send my power A fusion pro 2 back, because the sticks get loose super quick.
This controller seems so close to being perfect but was poorly executed. All I want is a wireless controller with 4 back paddles/buttons, quality face buttons, and triggers, little to no input delay, and most importantly Hall Effect sensor thumbsticks. This one was close but not close enough. Honestly, aside from the terrible QC issues and shitty potentiometers, Microsoft really did make an incredible controller with the Elite Series 2. If they would just make the Elite Series 3 with Hall Effect sensors, I'd gladly spend $200 on it. Only time will tell. Great video. Thanks for the review.
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
I’ve bought the controller and all of the issues regarding the software are fixed, you just need to update the firmware using the phone app which he didn’t do
@christianleon9503
2 ай бұрын
@@enderspider5001Exelent 👌🏻
You gotta get that fusion pro 3 today bro
Thanking god rn that I found this video before I went and bought the controller
So hyped when i see the notification... Reality: Only 2 backs buttons... NOT 1000hz polling rate NEXT..
I was here for the first sponsor😂
I need u to tell me what the best pro controller is for series x? 🙏🏻
I love that jacket. Does it dry itself? Marty's does.
after this video I'm so happy that I just ordered G5 pro yesterday 😅😅
Bro how do I connect it to the Xbox Series X and change the color of the led lights?
Congrats on the sponsorship
Congrats on the sponsor
Finally! A perfect one!
I think later you should try to check & review the new GameSir T4 Kaleid Wired (Yes I know it's wired but I love the low latency) as it comes with both Joysticks & Triggers Hall Effect. I am now currently use GameSir G7 Wired and it performs perfectly well and the quality of it is great from such brand. It has a 259hz polling rate with 3.85ms latency which is very good I would say (same latency with DualSense 5 from my testing). It has 2 back buttons, with only Hall Effect Triggers & the Joysticks only use ALPS pontentiometer. It has its own software to customize it to 0 Deadzone for the Analog Joysticks. I mainly use this controller for Apex Legends PC and it performs well for me!
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
I pre-ordered the T4 when I saw it on Aliexpress! It's on its way now. I heavily enjoyed the G7 and still plan to make a video on it
@Syf16673
Жыл бұрын
@@vCuda Nice! Hope to see your review on these Controllers in future as it is currently the most affordable controller in my 3rd world country.
@HawkNocturnal
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was wireless. Is it wired for the series x ?
@noWoodsman
Жыл бұрын
that controller actually looks from specs perspective amazing, so stupid gaystation can't make this...
Fusion pro 3 review? I need a new controller and don’t know what to do lol
I swear they try to say wireless controllers are just as good, and they never are. I have tried so many and keep going back to my razer wolverine ultimate. Good Vid!
Should i return my xbox elite series 2 while i still can?
i belive in you brah live your talents
Cool, is it gyro better than the DualSense? God bless gamers.
“The response times had Alzheimer’s” 😂😂
Vcuda, i always like your videos, ive brought this up to ak40keven as well. Why wont they just give us the perfect controller. Is it patents? But what do you think the perfect controler is? I say, elite 2 format with out adjustable t-sticks. Seem to afect my acuracy with that 16th of an inch gap. Tac switches all around. What else do we need? It would be to simple. I think its a conspiracy to keep us buying crap in search of the least worst. Im exahsted by it. I truley value onley two opinins on the mater. Yours is one. Kevens is the other. Mines most important though. Thanks for keeping it comming
I am seeing the "G5" model of THIS controller going up for preorder and I am VERY worried.
According to the company, the left stick being a rectangle is a feature not a bug.... Ridiculous I know. However, they do provide a firmware update that gives the left thumbstick the perfect circularity of the right stick. With that firmware applied, I think the only real con this controller has is the 100hz polling rate. Once the back buttons are set in keylinker, their assignment doesn't change.
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
I'll have to look more into that firmware, I thought it was just a firmware update but someone told me you have to contact them to get it. I've been busy the past few days so I haven't really had time, but thank you for bringing it back to my attention! I suppose I should've dug a bit deeper for the firmware beforehand Unfortunately the buttons also choose when to keep, or discard their binds. I'm sure this an isolated incident, but its still super irritating. The custom thumbstick deadzones didn't always stay put either, it was an extremely inconsistent experience with keylinker Like I said, I'd like to think its just a one off. But I also think it could have something to do with the God Awful connection the controller has, who knows. It's so close to being dead on perfect. I hope one day it can be!
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
@@vCuda Ive had the controller for some weeks now and didn’t have any issues with it (I did the firmware update day 1) It’s most likely due to not having updated it that you’re experiencing problems You can use the phone app to update the controller as well, there’s no reason to send them an email or whatever
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
@@enderspider5001 I tried updating the firmware, unfortunately the issues persisted
Get that sponsorship money dawg!
Controller companies need look into the racing quad controller designs. For orecise control you cannot use just a thumb you must pinch between thumb and index finger. Until that happens i will be on MnK
laughing my ass off here, calibrated by someone who does not have thumbs and a response time with alzaimers! so epic
Please make a tier list of the best controllers for pc
@LeQuietkid
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they all work on a computer, as long as it supports Bluetooth and/or USB-A
Does it work with the Xbox series s or what cuz it’s cheap and I wanna buy it
Pls do the fusion pro 3
Dont worry about the soonsor you're doin good, no interest in 2 button controllers personally
Bro please test new PowerA fusion 3
Dude I need your honest opinion, I know you did a video on this but still want to ask , razer wolverine ultimate or elite series 2? The razer is at a very decent price right now but something about the elite still gets me
@sevn8757
Жыл бұрын
I use my victrix gambit over my elite series 2. I don't have the wolverine. Just know the gambit is a bit larger controllwr
@Koweezzy
Жыл бұрын
Bro i have the elite controller and the razer. Personally the razer is better. The paddles feel ergonomically correct and are super easy once you get used to it.
@Koweezzy
Жыл бұрын
I would only recommend the xbox elite if you play claw. The paddles are to close together even for my small hands. The razer just feels too good no lie. I can’t use any other controller tbh.
@sevn8757
Жыл бұрын
So far I just like plain buttons not levers . The elite series 2 is basically an Xbox controller with back buttons other controllers offer more in my opinion, if that helps you decide
@robbiem4041
Жыл бұрын
@Kowezzy thanks man , with the razer can you disable the right stick? Like for example I play apex and use crouch on the right stick and at times I press it down when I don't mean to so can it be disabled? Not the movement of the whole stick just the press of it if that makes sense
W raid sponsorship. I've heard the amount they pay is fucking nuts lol
Sounds to me a bit like manufacturers got it figured out, they just can’t pack all the features and quality into something and keep the price competitive.
Well its an xbox controler, so over clocking isnt a thing, i switched to the new ps5 edge as soon as it came out.
Where did you get it jow much does it cost. Do a review on that jacket
Power a fusion pro 3?!?!
Is this the same Nike G6 from the keyboards?
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
Yessir
Recomendado o no?
if you wanna do the sponser segments, and not have us skip them, cut them down to like 30 seconds. not 2 minutes. i mean i didint skip it, but ill probably skip the next ones of they are stupid long. controller does seem cool though. im still looking at the 8bitdo Ult 2.4+BT that you reviewed alittle while ago. Honestly im just waiting for my PS5 controller to die. With its aluminum joysticks, and gen 1 RISE backpaddle kit, i dont see a point in upgrading from it to anything else.
They could bring the price up to $100 with the inclusion of better software and better QC. Renamed as the G7+ or G7 Pro. The only problem I see with the price increase is that it might be too much for their intended audience. It's geared towards people that want the experience of a licensed Pro controller without paying the license tax.
@enderspider5001
Жыл бұрын
the issues regarding the software are fixed, you just need to update the firmware using the phone app which he didn’t do
Honestly I really don't care for a sponsor section if you have a time stamp. Get that money
Holy shit your voice is going through puberty! Instant like!
Hall-Effect Controller with the inability to connect to XBOX and PS Consoles Nr. 69!
About the left joystick, I think they did it in purpose since Xbox controller has the same situation. Here may be the reason: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Rlz6uteLexeto.html
do the hypr controller
I bought this controller months ago without having seen any reviews in the US. I bought it because it had Hall effect joysticks, mechanical buttons and rear buttons….ended up being the most ass busted controller I have ever used. INSANE stick drift out of the box and the back buttons felt like I was clicking a 1989 NES controller. They wouldn’t even let me return it even after I tried to reset the software and sent them videos of the controller not working 🤣 horrible company.
Sounds pretty good on paper like you said but any controller with just 2 buttons/paddles is a deal breaker for me. The Wolverine V2 Chroma remains king for me for now. Always love to hear the brutal honest truth, wish more people would do that.
Что за белый eswap на заднем плане?
Once u said "Ali-express" I knew this vid was a troll.
makes no sense to only have 2 back buttons. There is so many options with 4 back paddles that many of us have gotten used to using 4 and could never switch to only having 2. I wish someone would make one with 6 back paddles.
Yay
it almost seams as if the joysticks are set up for a first person shooter, perfect right joystick and square left joystick for... square... movement? yeah I don't know I was fetching far and it doesn't have any reason.
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
If you have a square deadzone, your movement isn't going to be symetrical. The corners take longer to get to, so diagonal movements take longer and overall the experience feels awkward imo. I used it in a few shooters, and it definitely isn't ideal I will admit, I probably should've harped on that one a bit more when I bought it up. I didn't really dig into it as much as I should've. My mistake
@-aid4084
Жыл бұрын
@@vCuda nah I was trying to defend it for a sec but then was like nah
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
@@-aid4084 I understand, but I had completely forgotten to dive into it more. Just wanted to give a bit more info on why I though it was so strange. I always miss something no matter how much time I spend on these videos lol
@D1S0-
Жыл бұрын
@@vCudahe’s correct, according to them, they calibrated it to be better for fps games. The left stick has no circularity deadzone so that movement on the left stick is faster and easier. This is what they said, not me. Man I’m so disappointed this controller wasn’t the thing I was hoping for it to be… I wonder if you’re still willing to check out that other gamesir controller with Hall effect sticks, given how good gamesir controllers can be.
Leather. Free speech. There is hope .
Through "investigation", this controller maybe just and alteration from Thunderobot G6, since both company despite different branding actually sells under same Machenike Thunderobot official store in Asia. Thunderobot do give the accessories like thumbstick cap and the phone mount, though this brand is actually not available in Amazon (mostly listed and not available). Chinese peripheral also significantly more expensive in US due to tax.
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
Good work man! They look extremely similar, I must say. I find this to be the case with a lot of budget end Pro controllers coming from smaller companies, the majority of them aren't made in house. In fact, I don't know why I never thought about this, good eye! Some controllers like PowerA for example, appear to be made in house. For better or for worse lol. They also sent out the new G5 Pro, I was wondering if you had a chance to take a look at it? It's a vast improvement in my opinion, and the response time is pretty good wired
@kaiserdostuff
Жыл бұрын
@@vCuda Don't have the chance yet, but Machenike is usually hit or miss. Mostly miss. If the g5 pro price is the same with g6, it will be reasonable since technically it get the same features like 8bitdo Ultimate. Machenike tend to make weird designs with peripherals and overcharge the price despite the inside being average. Edit: Oh wow..! it is 200Y aka $30, best budget 2023?
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
@@kaiserdostuff damn it's $30 there! They said it'll be $60 here lol that's absolutely crazy It feels like a massive step up from the G6 in terms of physical quality. The deadzones come out of the box with almost 0 circulation on both sticks this time, and it doesn't feel nearly as slow and clunky. I'll have to keep digging into it, as well as perform a teardown. I don't wanna make any hasty recommendations in my review! I hope I get to a video from you with it when you can. You seem to care about the details, not many controller reviewers do
The company pronounce it like this: "Ma-Che-Nik" "Ma" like from "Mama", "Che" like from "Chest" without the "st" "Nik" like how you pronounce the name "Nick" and not something close to "nighk"
There is a known fix for the left stick. It is not really a complete review if you did not update the firmware to fix it.
@vCuda
Жыл бұрын
I updated the firmware and unfortunately the issue persisted
yo you should try some other controllers made by Chinese companies. they make really good ones now. this one is at most a B tier among them.
Man why does it have only two rear buttons? 4 should be the standard. So disappointing
@I_like_big_boobs
Жыл бұрын
That’s not the problem😭
@dhruvster10
Жыл бұрын
@@I_like_big_boobs well duh the software is but i'm not talking about that. 4 buttons is my point
The Razor wolverine ultimate is 100$...
Thriller jacket!
Anyone make a Magic Mike joke yet? Cool.
Remember children expensive controllers don’t make u good 🤗
Power a fusion 3
Mustache no there
Sweaty goats
Need smore back buttons, less decorations and above all SYMMETRICAL ANALOG STICKS.
@DwAboutItManFr
Жыл бұрын
And way better pooling rate and latency.
@chanderule605
Жыл бұрын
You play a lot of retro games?
Fun fact, if you pronounce Machenike in Russian, it means "con-men / cheaters"
the perfect pro budget controller is gamesir t4 kaleid
Slap
If people offer you money (adds/sponsors) please take the money. 1 min of you sell something is fine.