Man, I SO appreciate you not just dropping "optimum" settings but really digging into this stuff and explaining what it all does so I can figure out what doesn't feel right and adjust accordingly. And your closing comments are spot on, it feels like they came into this knowing they needed to get it right on a wheel and just gave up when they got close enough

Duude I don't know if you realize how much your setting videos impact my sim racing hobby. You didn't just teach me how to set up my CSL DD. You straight up taught me what a good FFB is supposed to feel like.

Just tried your settings and I love it. Coming from ACC those Settings work pretty well for me. Thank you for the work. Since the start of the early access I was looking for good settings for my csl dd. big thanks again

Amazing review and a great point about over-exposing settings and effects to end users. This puts the onus on the user to make the car "feel" right. Effects are a band-aid solution and on their way out as physics engines and processors get better... Thorough review and to the point.

Thank you for this, first morning after buying a g920, these settings work excellently and i won my first race right after setting them up and got competent by the end. First time sim racer and im already so excited for more races. Cheers man

Thank you so much for this video, the difference in ffb is night and day. Having an absolute blast with my CSL DD8 I can't believe that they've launched the game with literally unplayable stock settings. Once again, really appreciate your help dude!

Mate, you are a lifesaver! The setup you proposed did wonders for me, my times are better, sector scores are way better! I was going bananas before, figuring out why the steering wheel did not work for me. Many, many thanks!

Great video and explanation, Ermz! These in game settings work really well on my T818. Still dialing it in but it's a great foundation!

Honestly I was skeptical because your settings looked pretty different than what I settled on. But after going back and forth between my old settings and these, I can say that on my Fanatec CSL DD it feels a lot closer to iracing and AC. So thank you. Because whilst I was able to drive decent enough on my old settings, it just didn’t feel “right”. But now it’s better. I’ll be sure to point my buddies to this

@dimsoneill

7 ай бұрын

Me too. I had tweaked Traxion GG recommended settings, but they were good but not right. And the car would do strange things on the limit. CHanged the settings, tweaksed them a bit based on Emrz's descriptions, and now I'm in driving nirvana. A 911 Carrera with light mods on Watkins! Yes please!!!!!

@gun16qpdc

7 ай бұрын

Really appreciate the video. The game is beyond frustrating currently. I have DD Pro 8nm, McLaren GT3v2 wheel and the club sport v3 pedals. I am yet to find a single set of settings that feel even close to the ballpark of iRacing or GT7. I’ve kept it super basic, chosen a track I know super well (Spa) and a car I have raced countless times Porsche GT3. So many times in testing I actually end up losing all acceleration (degrades on a sliding scale) and then bizarre sound effects that get worse and worse. Xbox series x fwiw. Hopefully a patch helps. My wheel is up to date and my base settings feel good in other games.

@Andybarney555

7 ай бұрын

I would 3rd this!!. Ts xw tiny tweek for pref. But nailes it. All others claiming got it are miles off. Was addicted last night!. Your fault im late to work this morning!!!

@DoWorkNP

7 ай бұрын

​@gun16qpdc we have the same exact set up besides the pedals I'm using the pedals that came with the dd pro but I have the load cell brake kit and clubsport shifter. I am using a setting from the fanatec forums and member posted and the ffb feels pretty damn good. Not quite as good as iracing which is what I mostly play but a little better than GT7. Idk why but the feeling of driving is much better in GT7 after the patch a few months ago but the cars feel like they are on foam tires, or plastic tires idk how to describe it. Check the fanatec forums man or I can post mine when I'm home the game is 1000% better with good ffb settings I'm having alot of fun

@johnnyb2508

7 ай бұрын

@gun16qpdc I ended up using stock settings with a few tweaks on the wheels tuning menu, because all these "best settings" videos just made it unplayable. Those comments saying it feels like AC/ACC/Iracing are most likely paid for.

THANK YOU!...I just purchased my first wheel and wasn't feeling the whole experience until I tried your settings and BAM!...my eyes were opened and had a huge grin. Now I'm ready to get back into my teenage passion.

Just ordered a Fanatec CSL DD, upgrading from my G920. Can't wait to try out my first Direct Drive, using this video for a guide !!

Great video and I will try your recommendation for sure. From my perspective I love having all these options and being limited or boxed into what Forza think my experience should be. I do however think they should had included presets for the beginners. I’m using a Moza R9 wheel base and I love the extra sensory the settings allow me to have! Again great video 😊

Cannot wait to get home from work and give these a go. You the man Ermz, been waiting for this.

My Fanatec CSL DD/GT DD Pro settings for Forza Motorsport: SEN: AUTO (set this wherever you prefer. For race cars 540 and lower tends to be snappier) FFB: 100 FFS: PEAK NDP: 35 NFR: 0 NIN: 5 INT: 1 FEI: 100 FOR: 100 SPR: 100 DPR: 100 BLI: Off

@omaralshek7165

7 ай бұрын

I love your settings thank you very much you help me to enjoy 🙏❤

@AnthonyForsberg-ik6km

7 ай бұрын

Having an issue with every setting I try where my wheel doesnt match up with the in game wheel rotation so it feels off and doesn’t drive the way it should

@bubbsboy

7 ай бұрын

have you put your steering to simulation?@@AnthonyForsberg-ik6km

@themrwinston9570

7 ай бұрын

i know you said not to just copy directly, but since i have the same wheelbase, i want to copy as closely as i can. in the video you gave ranges for everyone to try as starting/reference points but is it possible to just get the full list of the exact in-game slider positions that you use currently?

@glossolalian

7 ай бұрын

Thank you SO much for doing this painful work for us. I genuinely appreciate it and will point my friends to your channel. Keep up the great work!

AS always super nice video man. Helped a lot !!! I hope to see you making WRC videos in the future

Great video! Thank you and keep up the good work! Informative, clear, high-quality and accessible. Looking forward to more FM videos.

These settings have transformed the game for me. So much better now. Although I have reverted to using a couple of driving assists to match my skill level, with Traction and Stability control set to sport. Thanks so much for this video. Really appreciated

Thanks so much Bro, these settings are absolutely amazing. So much appreciated. I have a T818 and damn default settings were just horrendous. Yours helped so much, only video that has helped me. finally enjoying driving the game, now if they can fix the graphic issues. Thanks again

Being new to racing games having just purchased a moza wheel this has helped heaps. I was close to refunding the game. There are way too many settings for an amateur like me needs to adjust to make it playable/enjoyable. Cheers

This is the best, most concise video for FFB on FM that I have seen showing what they do in the telemetry.. I did my own deep dive video that came close to your settings, though mine was not concise at all. More like a 50 minute slog.

Thanks! These settings worked great for me on my CSL Elite, just turned the road feel up a little more

Thanks for this guide, these are the best settings ive seen so far, I've tweaked them a bit for my own prefernce but they were a great starting point. Some cars were almost undrivable using the settings i had. The 2016 Potsche GT3 rs was impossible to get round a lap of maple valley without spinning out at the slightest change of direction.

Vibration scale 20 Force feedback scale 120 Steering self alignment 90 Mechanical scale trail 120 Pneumatic scale trail 40 Road feel scale 40 Load sensitivity 70 Wheel damping scale 0 Centre spring scale 0 Dynamic damper behaviour 0 Steering sensitivity 50 Steering linearity 50

@djoraxxxxxx5412

4 ай бұрын

King

@anjummadani

4 ай бұрын

Oh hey man, you are a Star! Thank you so much for this!

I actually love that the devs have left all these options to configure it exactly as you like. FFB in ACC has been broken for me until their last big patch, where they finally fixed it somehow. I have participated in about 10 online races already and I have to say it has been pretty fun. Servers are full, lots of different options, different circuits, weather conditions, very fun strategic decissions with fuel and tires, players behaving reasonable well... there's not much to complain. Yes, physics are not top notch by any means, but they reward good driving technique andt hat's more than enough for me.

Ok, now that's awesome. I've just tried your settings/suggestions with a relatively stock G80 M3 and then with my built Cayman GTS and it's absolutely amazing. The M3 felt incredibly good right in the first moment and the difference in control and just overall drivability on the GTS in comparison to the last time I drove it is just mind-blowing. I already enjoyed FM before, but now it's really just on another level. I'm using a Logitech G920 on my Xbox Series X and I only had to turn the force feedback strength down to 70 to prevent clipping. I had to lower it a bit more in the tuning menu for the Porsche, but other than that, all of your suggestions work perfectly fine for me. Thank you so much for that video, ermz 😁

Thanks! Great starting point for my CSL Elite! Feels that much better! 👍

Thanks for this video man, I can't wait to get off work and test out some different settings

I missed your video! Welcome back!!

Ive gone through about a dozen videos explaining different settings for the wheels. I have a Logitech G920. Im by no means a sim racer except i play a ton of Forza. These settings here are by far the best ive come across. Thank you so much

@chubzero3635

7 ай бұрын

I was looking for a G920 comment 😂 im definitely trying this setting out now

@Kociban999

7 ай бұрын

I just got my 920 setup and have been hunting settings as well 😂

@maniiakdubz

7 ай бұрын

G920 gang😂 NGL I was scrolling to look for it aswell 😂

@rhiiinoo

7 ай бұрын

same here man! hey did any of yours pull to the left straight away i have gone over the video 5 times afte completing stays central. in menus i move wheel left and it just keeps going around to full lock. cheers ryan

@stuplays6632

7 ай бұрын

G923 here... wish me luck lol Edit: yeah.. it feels much nicer!!... yours is the best so far

This Video is well done! Thank you! Was really nice to watch.

Great information with even better context thank you 🙏🏾

Thank you so much, was about to leave the game because of that strange feeling that i was having with the dd pro since the configuration options seemed overwhelming. The experience has totally changed for better.

I've just tried these settings on my Thrustmaster TMX and I'm really pleased with the outcome already. I might want to fiddle around a bit more to get the perfect feel but that's a really good starting point here! Thx for sharing and explaining your settings!

@jamesbrunyee2319

7 ай бұрын

do you feel the curbs ?

@mr.bernie6198

4 ай бұрын

I am trying out the same. I can't feel when the car starts to lose grip and slides. I just feel it when it is to late and the car goes sideways -_-. For racing I should feel the edge before that happens ...

For G920 users these settings as shown in the video work great. I prefer a little more vibration (30) and road feel (90) though, I would also say a little more force feedback is good as the G920 isn’t the strongest torque wheel out there. edit: force feedback (120), steering self alignment (95), mechanical trail (110), pneumatic trail (30), road feel (70), load sensitivity (40), center spring scale (1). And the rest is the same as the vid I believe. I’ve been tweaking with the above settings a bunch over the last few months and have found this combo to be the most predictable and realistic.

@yaboyastro69420

4 ай бұрын

Thanks homie!!

@SirReddit18

4 ай бұрын

@@yaboyastro69420 forgot abt this comment, lemme make an edit with the perfected version for ya boss

@yaboyastro69420

4 ай бұрын

@@SirReddit18 THANKS!! Works perfect!!!!!!!

I'm fairly new to racing with having just upgraded from a G920 to Fanatec CSL DD......i thought I was happy with the STD setting in FM due to having little to No ffb with ACC on a Series X!! I'll give theses settings a try when I get online next, Thank for taking the time to explain what each setting does, much appreciated 👍

Great settings, thanks for your effort. Works great with my DD Pro.

I use the same gear and these settings were exactly what I was looking for!

So i played a few Hours with Ur settings and it is breahtaking!! In comparison to my settings befor or the Basic settings. I now have Trust in the Cars in the Wheel and can Push through corners. If i loose the car and crashed, it is my falt and Not the falt of the Wheel Like it was bevor. Thank u ! ❤❤❤❤

Jeez brother 3 vids in the month! glad to have you in the feed again

Great video will keep eye out for update I'm new to forza without this would have no idea

The thing is, once you get your settings right, the new FM can hang with the best sims out there in FFB and car feel. It really is a thing of beauty. Just sucks that you really have to work unreasonably hard to find those settings. Literally, I fiddled with mine for probably 5 hours last night. But when I got it right? Omg it’s incredible.

@tobireindl

7 ай бұрын

I am on it 6h now and now I start to ask the social media and research which setup (have 2 very good setups now) is better. Can do the same lap time and both feel good. Ermz setup is way more soft and easier to steer. But my first setup is harder and aggressive, but you can feel the limit of the tires. 🫠

@graemacinnis1202

7 ай бұрын

I totally agree. Forza has always previously been terrible with a wheel, but after spending all weekend in my rig fine tuning the FFB, it was worth it. I'm frankly amazed at the amount of information and feeling that they put in this. Talk about a complete 180 turnaround. Never had this much fun with Forza game.

@SulleyInc

7 ай бұрын

What are your settings? :)@@graemacinnis1202

@toby7647

7 ай бұрын

I feel like the amount of understeer is unplayable as well as the brake pressure. I just can’t enjoy it. Maybe on a controller

@tobireindl

7 ай бұрын

@@toby7647 Some people say its easier on controller, in my opinion its easier with a wheel, because its obviously more realistic

Amazing Explication !! Thank you

Thank you, a solid base with a great explanation 👍

That ending big facts 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

thanks, look forward to the review

Wow....😮 These settings man. Follow, and spread the news. This made the game fun beyond belief. I never thought I could actually go without TCS / stab. Only thing I needed was abs for now. But really. Feels like there's a car to control now! So much fun

I just did these settings , and the game feels absolutely amazing

Thanks for the video tutorial 👊🏽

These settings honestly saved this game for me 🤩

Wow, just wow! I came to this video, tried your settings with my G920 and all I can say is that Forza Motorsport feels like a whole new game for me now. It's amazing how much the driving experience changes with this settings, but it is what it is lol Thanks dude, my Nissan 370z feels better than ever after this video 😄

Awsome guide first forza that feels ok on the wheel, thanks mate 👍🏿 n keep smiling

thanks for explaining what the settings affect and not just dumping values without explanation like many youtubers do. Your comment on ACC delivering a wondeful ffb without much settings for users to get lost in like forza is spot on. so lazy of them.

I remember you saying on stream you couldn't find any decent settings for the wheel. I'm glad you found something that works. I think it's also good that they do give the option to expose all these settings because people will have unique preferences and it's better to have a game that can cater to anyone willing rather than just a subset of the playerbase. That said, obviously the default wheel settings are straight garbage according to everyone who has tried it so far. There's no reason they don't have better default settings.

very helpfull! made it very playable with a T300 in my hands! thank you

Thankyou so much for this info 😀👍

OMG finally someone who shared perfect settings. Give this man a cookie. Thank you !

Dude c'mon what is this... I have also a gt dd pro and what a GREAT settings !! The most natural imo, thank u so much for sharing this

Thanks for the vid! As a User Experience professional myself, I 100% agree with your last point. Straight up lazy on Turn 10s part.

Holy shit these are amazing settings, stumbled on it 10 minutes before my first time booting up the game and I don’t wanna change a thing it feels perfect ty (CSL DD 8nm)

You just saved the game. Congrats!!

thank you dude! I don't have to consciously think about how to correct the car anymore and can rely on muscle memory again lol. the tip at 1:20 was a lifesaver too. it didn't occur to me that anything other than 0 and 100 would be the default. what a bizarre choice, imo. no wonder braking zones felt like a complete gamble

Wow now this makes the game more realistic great settings best one out of 20 videos

This was a game changer for me. I had not played since launch and couldn't get the base settings right. I now play Forza thanks to you. Would you be able to do the same kind of video for ACC🙏🏽🙏🏽

Thanks! Best settings for me so far. I only adjust the force feedback to around 70 for the FWD and then 100-130 for GT3 and RWD... these settings are for me closest to somehthing like Rfactor2

Really helpful thank you

Thanks for hard work and settings, definitely going to give them a go. When I finally cave in and get the game. I have a thought though - Is the reason that some of these additional settings are in the game, not a result of the game being primarily developed for the Xbox, where you don’t have software running for attached wheel bases?

Yuu safed my Game !! Thank yu ❤

I used this setup for a couple of weeks and found the steering to be too vauge for my liking. When I would get crossed up, I had absolutely no idea of what the front tires were doing. Some of the changes I've made was to greatly increase the pneumatic trail, the center spring scale, the dynamic damper effect and dynamic damper setting. I just ean a test of my amended settings with a C-500 Pontiac TransAm Ram Air at a rainy Indiannapolis Infield. The car was way more communicative then before I raised those settings. I thought tire feel was nonexistant in the new Forza Motorsport, but I was completely surprised that the game has great tire feel. The catch, we have to find those settings on our end, but they can be found. Ermz' setup is an excellent baseline. From what he has, dial up the effect you feel you need, and save your settings as an additional copy so you can revert to his settings in case you bork something. Happy driving!

Just wanted to thank u for the vid help out so much.

When I first turned the game on, I thought, hmm for a forza game the wheel doesn't feel that bad... but let's try the new settings just to be sure. Yeah crazy upgrade. Thank you, I'm enjoying the game 100 times more with your settings!

Thanks, for this video, really feels great now on a csl dd 8nm👌🏻 I had the same issue like you all settings I found online were shit 😅

Just ordered a logitch G920 for Forza today. I havent had a racing wheel since the 360. Excited to learn wheel again

I turned one thing down slightly, but DAMN these settings are sooo good! Thank you! Really appreseate (spelling is f-ed) this!

This is a great video but I also really recommend the hoki hoshi one. The settings needed for gear/belt wheels are quite different to DD wheels. I find their settings much better for my g923

@tonebalone607

7 ай бұрын

Just goes to show how turn 10 really should have developed a tool to auto config it like iracing has. cause on my csl dd his settings felt like crap compared to these. I fear a lot of people getting their first wheel for this game, who don't understand ffb, will end up using the wrong settings and it could be hindering their enjoyment

@Gelangweilter

7 ай бұрын

Agree, hokis settings feel the best and most fun. Playing without road feel and vibrations is boring and feels lack luster.

@golfboy7438

7 ай бұрын

​@@Gelangweilterare hokis better for a cheaper Thrustmaster wheel?

@Gelangweilter

7 ай бұрын

@@golfboy7438 I am using a dd wheelbut a friend of mine is using a Logitech g29 or something like that and he likes hokis settings but you test it andvtemwesl it here and thete Hoki released a superb video about the settings, I recommend watching it.

@irrotational

7 ай бұрын

@@golfboy7438 I would watch the video but imho the belt/gear settings in that video are better for cheaper belt/gear wheels. Ultimately though, it only takes 2 mins to change the settings and try out both sets, so you can always do that to set your mind at rest.

Great vid man.... I did the exact same thing. I've been sim racing for the greater part of 6-7 years and have gained an extreme knowledge of sim racing, and what I like for setting for my style of driving. I searched and searched for settings and this was usually the way I'd get a starting point. There' really isn't a setting out there that you can start from. They're all garbage if you aske me. So I put my head down for 2-3 hours and I've honed into something that's amazing for me. I suggest you all do the same. A lot of us already know what the main settings are. If you don't know what the setting does, I simply set it to the extreme opposite to see if I notice anything with it, and you will find out what it does that way. Then go back to where it was, and go from there. I'd post my settings, but there's so many factors, like what wheelbase, what game, what console etc. all come into play and if you don't have the exact same shit, what's the point?

Thank you. I just bought my first wheel (logitech 920- i know, it's cheap, but, retiree on a budget) and spent all day yesterday trying to figure out how to get it to work in a quasi-realistic way. I tend to run my racecars (irl) with an overboosted setup, because I find that much less fatiguing on longer races. trying to replicate that in Forza has been a bit of a nightmare. Gonna give your settings a shot, and work from there.

@stabilozz

7 ай бұрын

Be warned, he is using a DD wheel not one thst u are using so it will nog work that great. I myself have a G920 and am still trying to find the right settings. My frist wheel that I bought yesterday. I really have te get used to it and I'm really faster with a controller still😅

@dimsoneill

7 ай бұрын

Try the setting from Hoshi Hoki, better for G series wheels.@@stabilozz

@dimsoneill

7 ай бұрын

What is an overboosted setup? Do you mean steering assistance?

Interesting Ermz , will have to try these, I honestly thought the wheel settings couldn't be saved on this game, the defaults and every other setting I tried was hilariously bad 😂

@dimsoneill

7 ай бұрын

It is really really good. Adjust the FFB strength per car tho in the tuning menu, that is critical.

I’ve tried so many peoples settings over these last few days, even tried tuning my own in and finally yesterday got to a point I was pretty happy with them. Then I saw your video and thought okay I’ll try yours just to see if they’re any better than what I have, so I applied them and they were terrible. The car felt stupidly light with basically no feedback coming through and then I remembered the key part that you mentioned that I haven’t really heard anyone else talk about, adjusting the FFB scale PER CAR. I was driving the Acura #36 NSX and I boosted the FFB scale and suddenly your settings came to life! So I think the FFB per car thing is a massive deal in this game, at least at this stage it is so thank you for that!

@tobireindl

7 ай бұрын

But wouldn't it be easier to use a slightly more aggressive setup right away that is noticeable without having to test and adjust it individually for each car? Because my first setup is a bit more aggressive, but is not as easy/light to steer as Ermz's (before you change the strength of each car). Lap times I drive the same with different cars and different tracks, it's really annoying now...

@TimmyTheSnail

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@tobireindltrust me I tired so many different setups and tried tweaking my own as well, but boosting the individual cars FFB strength combined with Ermz setup is the best I’ve got this game feeling and also is as close as I’m used to with the feeling of other racing games

@tobireindl

7 ай бұрын

@@TimmyTheSnail So you just play around with the strength on every car you drive for the first few times until you find the "sweet spot"? 🤔

@TimmyTheSnail

7 ай бұрын

@@tobireindlwell so far I’ve only done it with 1 car because I literally found this video like 2 hours ago. But I was using the Acura and there was basically no feedback, so I boosted the car’s individual feedback up from 100% to 175% because of how lacking the feedback felt, and that made it feel pretty damn good. I could probably turn it down 10% or so, but you if you think a cars feedback is too strong for example then you can roughly gauge how much to reduce it by and vis-versa

@dimsoneill

7 ай бұрын

Me too, and I spent 5 days fiddling and fine-tuning my setup. This setup with FFS tuning for each car is the biz.@@TimmyTheSnail

its a good day when ermz posts

Had to comment again. This game is outrageously fun with these settings. I'm going insane right now 😂

Great Settings thx

I'm using a gt DD pro like you and, honestly, your reccomended settings are a game chenger for me. I'm really really happy with the game and i also feel ACC vibes. The only problem i have is the wheel rotation: with SEN at AUTO the wheel rotation is different from the one i see in the game, and with the Ferrari 90's F1 i switched manually SEN at 900° because the car was turning probably at a 2190° or so, like it was a VW Golf!😂 Need help for this, thanks and greetings from an Italian follower!

You save the game! Thx👍

Always top notch

I was about to quit forza because I was having hard times getting my csl dd to work 😂 but you save me 😅 thanks a lot for sharing

Great explanation. Care to share your fanatec wheel base setting aswell? Much appreciated.

Wow... Thanks! I was about to give up on the game

Thank you so much for this video. Having the DD PRO, you leveled up my gaming experience for this game. Default settings are simply garbage. Turn10 must do something for this and they should listen to your video!

These settings are great on my DD Pro. Reduced the wheel oscillation I was having also

I never knew about the car ffb in the tuning menu. Been going back and forth with each race.

cant wait for my CSL DD to finally arrive HYYYPE

Saved me a lot of trouble adjusting my TM T300 RS

yes it feels perfect so far. i will stick with it. Thank you!!!!

great video, did you changed setting on your wheel aswell or these are default? thx :)

@tobireindl

7 ай бұрын

There is an additional comment for this

very nice!

Good base to start off with. Though with less powerful wheels you need the fb cranked up a bit more.

Wow can’t wait to get home to try this it’s sad that they didn’t have a better solution to this

Great guide m8 yeah we really want a guide that gets straight to the settings but it was good finding out exactly what these settings do and u explained them perfectly 👌....so true what u said at the end...the developer should be setting the feedback etc as best as they can do so it's just a matter of plug and play....if it wasn't for Ur guide and others on KZread I would not play this game at all! as with all racing games the games are unplayable without fettling with the settings which if u don't know about deadzones trail scales etc u don't have a chance! Eg project cars 2 tried it 3 times over the years and always gave up as was worse game ever with steering wheel and gamepad then found a good settings guide for the wheel and it turned into my fav game. Thanks for Ur efforts m8 I can now enjoy the latest race game👍

I've seen this a few times. Yes, I'm slow...but I wrote it down now...hahahah. Thanks for the time to explain! My biggest takeaway is comments about us not needing to be exposed to all of this. What the heck, was this just laziness or focus on something else? Isn't it all about the driving experience? Yes, and right now I have little to none on a Deluxe pre-purchase. For now, I'll just keep trying to get Moza R12 Base tuned. Thanks for tuning advice!

I'd like to try these, but what about the settings for the wheel in the Fanatec Control Panel? How should they be set up?