I have known this even when I was very young. I am a 4th generation Portuguese-Spanish Filipino . Both grandparents came from Northern Portugal and spain in 1860. I speak straight Portuguese and Spanish. I go to Portugal every year and visited all over the country, my fave is Porto especially Matosinhos. I love the fact that Malaysia keep this as part of their cultural identity. Muito obrigado pelo vídeo!

I live here. Thanks for sharing our culture to the world. You should come during San Pedro (Saint Peter's) Festival to witness the cultural show, our unique homecook dishes and lots of fun and music on the 29th June yearly. And not forgetting Christmas, just search for Christmas in Portuguese Settlement.

I think its not 4th generation but 14th generation of Portuguese descendants as Portuguese came to Malacca back in year 1511, more than 500 years ago, so 14th generation is make more sense. Portuguese came to Melaka back then for 3 missions; Gold, Glory and Gospel so their men married locals and converted them to Catholic, but not so much Dutch and British later. Similar happened to Dutch in Indonesia or Spain in the Philippines, they married locals. Since mostly Malays already embraced Islam during Sultanate of Malacca Empire, so most Portuguese married Indians and Chineses at that time. They are not Malays, but they hold status of Bumiputra (son of soil) similar to Malays, Orang Asli (indigenous people in Malaysia) and indigenous people in Borneo; Sabah and Sarawak. Most Kristang since then intermarried with other Christian communities in Malaysia; Chineses, Indians or people from Borneo or even foreigners. Only small minorities of them converted to Islam and married Malays. So most Malaysians sometimes confused them with Malay-Muslims due to mixed blood.

@Ruriko.Y

10 ай бұрын

@@Mcanonhmos the bumi status was offered to the baba nyonya community but they declined it. yes, they roots back to Cheng Ho's visit I believe. because he belonged to the palace, he brought hundreds of people together with him and they settled in Bukit Cina. the founding of Malacca was way before he came. I mean, an emperor of a huge dynasty couldn't just randomly sent his admiral to a small newly founded state, right? so Malacca must have been doing well for many years prior to that. but Malacca was not small when he came. it was already a kingdom.

@nikhassan7713

10 ай бұрын

@@Mcanonhmos Baba and Nyonya used to have status as Bumiputra during British colonial due to their uniqueness, and closer to Malay rather than Chinese. However after independence and a few generation, most of them loss their traditions and intermarried with non-Baba Nyonya which lead new generations are more Chineses. They still fighting to get their Bumi status back, same goes to Chitty (Peranakan Indians) and Malaysian Siameses in northern parts of Malaysia; Kedah, Kelantan, Perlis. However, some Baba and Nyonya, Chitty, Siamese or even Indian Muslims (Mamak) married to Malay, their children can get Bumi status and known as Malay.

@ciaransantamaria7476

Ай бұрын

Malay women where know to Marry Portuguese men, it was rare in the reverse and when it did happen a Kristang women legally had to convert to Islam or they could not marry. So like the family said, there is Malay mixed in but very hard to trace.

@Dan-xx5jq

20 күн бұрын

when Alphonso de Alberqueque defeated the Muslim army that ruled over Goa he asked all the Portuguese soldiers to marry the widows of the Muslim Army. They were given free land and did not have to pay taxes. Yes, mixing was encouraged by the Portuguese.

@vister6757

12 күн бұрын

​@@nikhassan7713actually not all Baba nyonya are mixed Malay. My ancestors are baba nyonya Melaka but not mixed with Malay. They just adopted some of the Malay culture.

Yes there is intermarriage between the malays and Portuguese right from the beginning..cant deny that

@Dan-xx5jq

20 күн бұрын

In Goa today people choose to hide any Portuguese ancestry as the RSS that rules India has deemed anyone of mixed blood as "not being pure". Very much like the Germans did in preWWll Germany. Even the descendant of Vasco De Gama that runs a restaurant in Goa prefers to very quiet about her ancestry. All of her siblings left for Portugal after 1961 and never returned to Goa. They all feared persecution.

11:30 most food courts and restaurants are opened at 6pm (like the guy said). Malaysian seldom walk about under the hot sun.

Ayat pertama disebut the Portuguese receive hostility from surrounding Islamic sultanate..rasa nak gelak dgr. Mestilah ada hostility…dah portuguese serang and takluk melaka..amendalah..tu batu2 bangunan A famosa sebelah dia tu..tak pulak dia nak sebut dari batu batuan Portuguese pecahkan masjid dan batu2 nisan Sultan2 terdahulu..but i have to give credit on the rest of the videos..kudos.

@Ruriko.Y

10 ай бұрын

kan. orang luar datang nak takluk negara kau, takkan kau nak serah diri tak melawan langsung. aih 🤣

@pinkstilleto830

10 ай бұрын

Perasan tak awal2 tu dia ckp duduk negara Islam susah. Yg pempuan tu ckp dorg kna protect diri dorg sendiri. Aku nak gelak dgr. Mcm tak bersyukur duduk dlm Malaysia ni. Wp kita majority Islam takde larangan dorg practice ugama dorg. Cuba dia kena mcm Uyghur kat China tu.

@izzat93ful

15 күн бұрын

yeah, i was shocked when he said that and the women tells the vlogger 'they have to protect themselves' protect from what?

@metalkeras8214

12 күн бұрын

Dia sedar tak nenek moyang dia datang jajah? Dia ingat nenek moyang dia mai melancong ke ...nasib la tu boleh beranak pinak... Ikutkan dh habis kena halau sama belanda

@wiwie1987

10 күн бұрын

Sama mcm parameswara yg datang dan jajah tanah org asli..agama asal d malaya adalah Hindu ...

Malay words too has Portuguese influence

Malaysia choose the path of integration and not the path of assimilation. Thus why all the different races held on to their cultural heritage so well.

@blancdespair7678

5 ай бұрын

Many locals don't realize how important this is, instead all they do is shout assimilation. They can't bother because it isn't their culture, all they care about is the supremecy of their own.

@byteme9718

13 күн бұрын

The Malays have no interest in integration.

Parabéns pelo seu canal! Abraço desde Portugal!

LOVE UR VIDZ

Some Brazilians who came to Malacca can understand Malaysian Portuguese here and there. And some words came from Old Dutch that is used in the Malaysian Portuguese language such as atapel (potato), kalkun (turkey), kukis (cakes) and doi (money).

@ciaransantamaria7476

Ай бұрын

Yes my father is Portuguese Malaysian and he would tell me about how his grandfather could speak with Brazilians but couldn't understand the Portuguese from Portugal. My Wife is Brazilian and having learned Brazilian Portuguese it's easy to understand for me bar the few malay and dutch words.

Awesome video exploring a part of Melaka that few tourists know about

Very nicely done man, interesting place and people thanks for showing us

Well done Sir.., if I'm not wrong , only you as tourist and KZreadrs make video about Portuguese in Malaysia,..It's true that there are tourist youtubers who make videos about this but not many... congratulations sir

Fantastic award winning video

@elbowstancenow1519

6 күн бұрын

What award?

thanks brother for you interesting for Portuguese history God bless you

New subs here ... Love this channel 🤩..

@travelfareatlocal

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for subbing!

Nice video..

Obrigado .. ❤❤

All the best BL O G 👍🙏✌️

U missed a place there where this gentleman has like a mini museum. He would have explained to you better abt the history of Kristang ppl there in Melaka

They are called gragok in the streets and they speak "kristang" , they're also known as Eurasians.. I myself am Eurasian , Muslim however but have relatives who are catholic .. were from Singapore. Most gragok Eurasians , primarily Dutch, Portuguese or both have Malay in their blood , hence the darker skin tone or features ... Those who don't know about eurasians , often mistake them as Malay or Filipino .. some have lighter skin tone and those maybe have a closer or new Caucasian ancestor in their genes not too far away.. maybe just a generation away .. like for example their Eurasian mother marry a British man .. one thing is for certain .. most eurasians are proud , and don't like to be associated with Malays .. some kind of arrogance .. not all of them but somehow in them they have this pride . Haha . They confuse Islam and Malay also .. oh well .. to me race is just a race .. nothing special . Good content anyway ! Keep it up

@daengzool6023

10 ай бұрын

In the 70s I played Hockey with my gragok friends. Some people think I am gragok too cos our looks are similar.

@amanpalestina9664

10 ай бұрын

My GF is a Blond Haired Portuguse+Tamil+Chinese. VERY PRETTY. A Catholic. I am Malay+Chinese. A Muslim. We met in the University We were very nice and RESPECT each other. No problem. _(insya Allah)_

@daengzool6023

10 ай бұрын

Many of my cousins have mix blood too, which include Arab, Japanese, Pakistani, Chinese and Malbari.

@amanpalestina9664

10 ай бұрын

@@daengzool6023 : Can't help it Mr daegzool6023. The Malay Peninsula is *STATEGICALLY* located in the East for the sea route of those days and until today. In Fact Haji Admiral Cheng Ho Armada of China came down here to help sort out The Malacca's Empire MONUMENTAL effort on the Straits, to show force against the ill intended until cometh the European Colonizer and together we fell up until the Vietnam War. The First INTERNATIONAL Law is The Malacca Rules Of The Straits abide by the whole Asia, you know.

@daengzool6023

10 ай бұрын

@@amanpalestina9664 My ancestors were warriors from the Johor Riau Empire who fought the Dutch when they occupy Malacca town/port in 1641.

Thanks for going to the settlement

It is like quebec people speaking French in Canada vs French people in france

Those people are from Goa India been hired by portuguese to take Malacca, that why they looks like India and not local people!

Back in the good old days, living side by side Malay neighbourhood, we called them GRAGO, only in Malacca. Don't know where the term GRAGO originated. Maybe they were off shore fishermen. Don't know if GRAGO today is offensive, like calling South Indians KELING. Hope they still accept the term GRAGO cos it's heritage that can be recognized plus unique, especially Malacca is historical city. Sadly Portuguese Settlement undergo modern housing, no more half wooden homes, lighted with bright Christmas trees, comes every Disember. Missed my friends there, where ever they are.

U can come during festivals like intrudu(Sunday before Ash Wed), San Pedro (June) and Christmas time in Dec

Malaysian Portuguese (Melaka) is just like Sri Lankan Malay. Malay speakers in SE Asia no longer understand the old archaic ancient Malay spoken by Sri Lankan Malays. Just like Portuguese speakers in Portugal and Brazil no longer understand the old archaic ancient Portuguese spoken by Malaysian Portuguese.

@deltahunter2302

10 ай бұрын

🤔?????

@Kikipida

10 ай бұрын

Srilankan malay probably from south east Asia.

@twitteringothers5059

10 ай бұрын

Actaually, Sri Lankan Malay is not old archaic ancient Malay. Rather the language has underwent changes after being influenced by Sinhalese and Tamil.

@Esperalzi-Esfaral

10 ай бұрын

@@twitteringothers5059 I am a native Malay speaker from SE Asia. Sri Lankan Malay does sound old & archaic to me. Of course I am saying this with due respect to you & speakers of Sri Lankan Malay, no offense intended. It is based on how that language sounds to me and its language structure the way they speak when I listen closely.

@isnatiabubakar261

15 күн бұрын

Yea Malay come from south east Asia the Sri Lankan archaic ancient malay dude we are the origin they are our cousin that we’re taken by Portuguese to work as slave the origin of Malay are here at hometown Nusantara Southeast Asia so wrong get that we the original malay so we speak malay Baku the archaic ancient malay language now u know from #takkanhilangmelayuselagiberpegangteguhkepadaislam

Yeah, good for you 👍👍 Looking forward to the day you have the chance to make great national decisions in the Malaysian parliament, and make Malaysia friendly with diversity!

There is a Kristang community here in Singapore too. We also have our community association called Eurasian Community Club.

Hey bro! Welcome to Malaysia. In Malaysia people live in the evening, they close in the day time because it is too hot.

Maybe a bit of a correction here. Malay is an ethnic group. Kristang is a different ethnic group. So for them, they are not Malay, but decedents of Portuguese settlers in Melaka. So Malay-Portuguese is not entirely correct term to use to refer to them. (unless of course they are actually married to an ethnic Malays, but that's a different story). You can say they are Malaysians (as a nationality) but definitely not Malay in that sense. Additionally why the lady mentions that they are the 4th generation there, is because the location is quite new. Kristangs themselves are not new to Malaysia and spans back generations. But as you say, the location is gazetted as a Kristang area in the 1930s, i would guess the family has been staying there since then.

@realiti773

10 ай бұрын

But I am amazed their skin color is akin to Malays or Austronesians as a whole. Portuguese a generally have fair skin. Even living here after generations. I wonder why so.

@ridzz

10 ай бұрын

@@realiti773 my guess is that after Melaka was free from Portuguese rule, not many Portuguese from Portugal, came around to settle there. (Also the Dutch and English that came after might not be so welcoming to Portuguese nationals? They were opposing trading powers at the time anyway) So intermarriages between locals and Portuguese descendents are more likely to happen. So eventually you get how it is today. That's just my personal theory and have no literature basis on it. So yeah..

@fauzanriez9472

10 ай бұрын

@@realiti773 hi. I grew up all my life in Melaka. And I attended a high school, not far from the Portuguese settlement. To my understanding (since the portuguese era is 500 years ago), local Malays girls were forced into marriage to the Portuguese soldiers, seamen, officers - leaving their family and religion behind. And in the past 200-300 years the portuguese were known to be fishermen in Melaka. This is different to the generations today after they receiving proper education from the governmen - there are doctors, engineers, lecturers etc. This is reason the skin colour is similar to the Malays as well as the pyhsical body size (small unlike normal european). They stay strong to the religion, language and culture though.

@froggy82

3 ай бұрын

@@realiti773many of the older generations were fisherfolk tolling under the blazing sun

@Dan-xx5jq

20 күн бұрын

​@@realiti773the Portuguese are not exactly fair skin like the British or Germans. They are Mediterranean peoples. They are like southern Italians who were not considered White when they emigrated to America. There was a lot of racism against them in America as immigrants. Some Portuguese also have blood from the Moors that conquered Portugal. In Goa they have many old paintings of pure Portuguese men of the Church and they have dark skin and curly hair. For a while Europe was even debating whether to call the Portuguese Europeans as they were quite dark skinned compared to most Europeans.

The Melakan Portuguese speak Kristang (16th century language). Even the modern-day portuguese (in portugal) can’t understand them. Portuguese soldiers & kapitan intermarried locals to spread the catholic sect. At that time, Melaka already multi-ethnic kingdom. Most of their wifes were non-muslim. Some muslim women such as the slaves, maids, artisan & farmers also force to leave their religion to get married. Life is very hard for local women during the occupation.

@abdulwahidmdtahir3660

16 күн бұрын

There is one vloger who made a similar video regarding Melakan Portuguese. From what I understand from his video, Melakan Portuguese dialect is very similar to Brazilian Portuguese. He learnt that Portuguese dialect in Brazil. When he came to Melaka, he found out that both dialects in Brazil and Melaka were similar.

I am a Kristang or Eurasian from Singapore like my sisters but my parents are from Malaysia!!!! The Eurasian communities can be found between Malacca, Malaysia and Singapore!!!!! These are the only two countries that are connected and intertwined together between Eurasian Kristang community of South East Asia!!!!!!!

@elbowstancenow1519

6 күн бұрын

What's with the exclamation?!!!!!!!

❤ Malaysia is always the best 😍✅

It's called Portuguese Settlement, not Portuguese colony. The language they speak is Kristang. There is a school in the settlement called Canossa Convent and it has a long history of Portuguese heritage all the way from Macao. The Canossian Sisters from the Canossian Convent have been invovled in the community in Malacca since the late 19th century before establishing the school in 1905.

To know Malaysia is to be love Malaysia

@elbowstancenow1519

6 күн бұрын

Betulkan tatabahasa bro. 'To know Malaysia is to love Malaysia'

Slight correction on the year , the Portuguese controlled Melaka from 25th August 1511 to Jan 14th 1641. Thank me later.

"Found"? I'm not sure they have ever been considered lost.

In 16:00, it’s means old Portuguese & Modern Portuegese Langguage, in Portugal maybe their have modern their Langguage, but in portueges community in Malaysia, maybe still use a Old Languages… If not my mistakes

Malay = The ethnicity/race of the majority in Malaysia. Malaysian = citizens of Malaysia (regardless of race)

Biar betul mee goreng dengn telur 3.00 mcm mana untung .pelik

Portuguese invaded Malacca and colonized it between year 1511 to 1641. At that time local people suffering a lot.

11:43 comes alive at night. There'll be people hanging out there during dinner time.

The Portuguese start to travel after defeating the muslim empire in iberian peninsula where the got the navigation knowledge from the library of toledo. Prior to 1500 they know nothing about science. Once muslim defeated, they start to rebranding the knowledge found by muslim scholar

@byteme9718

13 күн бұрын

What utter rubbish! The propaganda they teach in government schools is a disgrace.

@norzainimohd-zain1325

10 күн бұрын

They, & many other European nations, learned from the clever, innovative, & yet humble, civilized Muslims.

@byteme9718

10 күн бұрын

@@norzainimohd-zain1325 The mythical golden age? 🤣

FYI, Malaysia has also got Alexander the Great's descendants

✌️😎🇲🇾♥️🇺🇲🤝

The first mix of them started of Portuguese n Malay....but after second generations they only married only to among them so they face n fiscal look like 70% malays...then after that they married with chinese,India n Malay...n fiscal n face be totally similar malay...but they religion remain as christian....but who married with malay they converted in islam as muslim.

@deltahunter2302

10 ай бұрын

Nope.. they got married to an indian since they landed in Goa, India. Not many Indians in Malacca those days.

probably related more to portuguese brazil

6:55 Aiyoo aunty uncle what with the babbled unsatisfied for...? what kind of hard living in Muslim land? so proud of Portuguese blood (that only left only a few %) until like want to go back to Portugal, if you think you can have a better life there then go laa.. you guys looked fine; living in big comfortable houses, freely practicing Catholic beliefs in a Muslim land, can freely do business, can enjoy San Pedro fiesta every year, laughing & having fun with the communities. If you think not protected enough, there is a police station, and ask for whatever you demand, or lodge a report if anyone triggers you. If business isn't good just find ways how to make life better. Malaysia, (to be narrow Melaka is a great place) country to live in. Whatever hardship you felt, other races are facing the same problem too including Muslims, not only in Malaysia, every people in any country too having life difficulties. Don't say like that laa aunty uncle... isn't Christian teaching you to be grateful..

@farahharis5016

10 ай бұрын

She doesn't seem to be grateful enough maybe she loves living in war country

@norasimahrahman2912

16 күн бұрын

Betul tu..mrk juga tlh diberi 13:05 taraf ' bumiputera: dgn segala keistimewaan penduduk asal Tanah Melayu..masih tak puas hati .masih nak mintak lebih..pdhal nenekmoyang dia penjajah...

@izzat93ful

15 күн бұрын

preach it bro

malacca establish in 1408 AD portugis colonized in 1511 AD malaysia got independent from british 1957 AD

For yur info most of these descendants are locals of mostly Indians n Chinese races intermarriage with Portuguese

There were also African slaves working for the Portuguese who followed the Portuguese to their colonies, but it doesn't seem like the Eurasian communities in Malaysia and Singapore acknowledge that black African culture as part of their heritage as well.

@AceofDlamonds

9 ай бұрын

very minor.

@azhariarif

8 күн бұрын

Because there isn't anymore.

"Malaysia" only came into being in 1963. Previously it was known as the Malay Peninsular

@calvyncraven1141

10 ай бұрын

Federation of Malaya is the correct old name

@RainBaha

10 ай бұрын

@@calvyncraven1141 Federation of Malaya 1948 -1963

@calvyncraven1141

10 ай бұрын

@@RainBaha anyway Malaya Peninsula is a name oso given by the British.

@RainBaha

10 ай бұрын

@@calvyncraven1141 not Malaya but Malay Peninsular

@calvyncraven1141

10 ай бұрын

@@RainBahahistory.state.gov/countries/malaysia#:~:text=U.S.%20Recognition%20of%20Malaysian%20Independence,Prime%20Minister%20Tunku%20Abdul%20Rahman.

Goa parece brasileira ❤

The lady spoke portuguese indeed. The other guy i maybe.. some mix idk

Some of them as a nasrani...

If not my Mistake, They Use a Old Portuguese language, and maybe language have some mixed with other language in Malaysia, in Portugal, maybe use a Modern Portuguese Langguage… Because their decedents start from 1511, Army From Portuguese marry a Local Settlemet in Melacca…

Of course there was hostile.. their ancestors came to conquer Melaka, they were not tourists 😂😂

@azhariarif

8 күн бұрын

exactly lol

it would be better if you brought a friend who actually speaks portugese...

Restaurants open night time

They are suppose to be recognised as native of this land too (bumiputra). But I am uncertain if it is done.

@deltahunter2302

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂. They can't, not qualified.

@yunusibrahim2474

10 ай бұрын

yes they are, so are the indian chettiar & chinese baba/nyonya..

@fighterfighter9340

10 ай бұрын

I heard they are already considered as Bumiputera..same goes with Siamese. But they can't enrol to UiTM.

@yunusibrahim2474

10 ай бұрын

@@fighterfighter9340 if bumis definately can study in UiTM..there are Iban, Kadazan, Org Asli & Ethnic Sabahan/Sarawak graduated from UiTM.

@fighterfighter9340

10 ай бұрын

@@yunusibrahim2474 You can find Iban, Kadazan graduated from UiTM. But orang Asli is rarely found graduated from UiTM due to Act of Orang Asli never stated either they can move out from their settlements or not. As what I know in UiTM, their policy only consider Malay as Bumiputera of Peninsular Malaysia not include Siamese and Portuguese.

Others call us as "Serani" nowadays.

@ronlombok1677

18 күн бұрын

Yes, I take pride having friends there. Can you give some light, where the term GRAGO originated. Is it offensive to call GRAGO, something like calling South Indian Keling?

@malayangrago5628

17 күн бұрын

@@ronlombok1677 'Grago' refers to 'shrimp'. Fishing was the main source of income in the community since inception. Whether derogatory is debatable. We usually take it with a pinch of salt and just laugh out loud.

@ronlombok1677

17 күн бұрын

@@malayangrago5628 Back then in the 60's and 70's there was another Serani Community in Praya Lane. There was even a church there, as a kid used to play around this church. Are you from Malacca? Do this community still exist? Just asking, a past to remember.

Their ancestors were indian from gowa brought by portuguese to attack malacca, not the real portuguese by ethnic

@fighterfighter9340

10 ай бұрын

Not Gowa but Goa. Gowa is a place situated in South Sulawesi. Goa ia place in India.

@markzzzzberg1312

10 ай бұрын

patut lah banyak muka mcm india..aku expect muka putih2 caucasian

@fighterfighter9340

10 ай бұрын

@@markzzzzberg1312 Muka Portugis memang macam India. Diorg mix blood dengan bangsa Berber di Afrika.

@markzzzzberg1312

10 ай бұрын

@@fighterfighter9340 beza dengan yang di melaka yg mcm tamil... Berber di Morocco tu putih2 mcm Caucasian

@norzainimohd-zain1325

16 күн бұрын

​@@markzzzzberg1312 Portuguese memang gelap dari normal Europeans. If u go to Portugal, natives dia memang gelap2. Zaman dulu, Europeans tak gemar sangat Portuguese. Yg cerah2 tu dah ramai mixed. Skrg pun dah abad-21.

Suuiiiiiiiiiiii

They not catholic but rather they a mix of christian from several denominaton like church of england Methodist,mormon yeah even mormon missionary came here

@markzzzzberg1312

10 ай бұрын

they are catholic

Their descendants were from former Portuguese colony of Goa... not from Portugal.

these abandoned portuguese is a mix with chinese languages and kind of wierd sounds too also they're not talking the same language of real portuguese

the portuguese descendants r not malay.. there might hv some of their great great grandfathers married a malay.. bt that was during the early part of portuguese occupation here.. as majority of malays was already a muslim when the portuguese came.. not many married the portuguese settlers.. that’s where the inter marriage with other races eg chinese or indians frm goa came.. malay is one of the several races that can b found in malaysia… it’s the biggest race in malaysia.. a malaysian who’s a portuguese descent is known as eurasian malaysian… same like a chinese who’s nationality is malaysian.. known as malaysian chinese… a malay whose nationality is malaysian.. is known as malaysian malay.. u can find malays in singapore… indonesia… southern thailand.. some parts of philippines.. cambodia.. cocos island.. etc.. bahasa malaysia aka bahasa melayu aka malay language is the national language of malaysia… so an eurasian learn to speak bahasa malaysia n english at school.. while their mother tongue i.e kristang they learn at home.. n not like mandarin or tamil (one of the indians dialect)… these two hv their own national schools that use mandarin or tamil as the main language.. these schools are known as national type chinese or national type tamil school aka vernacular schools… malaysia is the only country that still hv these types of schools… there’s pros n cons to this system.. bt the bright side of it these two languages r able to b preserved by the communities…

fontem quaerens?

It can be any race, so not known who intermarried who

0.05% Goan blooded call themselves Portuguese? No sight of Ronaldo or Nelly Furtado-like anywhere lol, sorry

@Dan-xx5jq

20 күн бұрын

yes. it is bad to be of mixed blood in India. The RSS has said mixed blood are "unpure". It is an Indo-Aryan view as they believe they are descendants of the Aryan peoples. People in Goa hide their Portuguese ancestry after India took over and even started a few decades before that. It is very hush hush unless they lived out of India. Even the direct descendant of Vasco De Gama runs a restaurant in Goa but is nervous about saying she is related to her Portuguese heritage. She tries to be as much Indian as possible. The RSS of India have been trying to wipe away anything Portuguese. The Chief Minister said that statement again last year and it makes us Christians very worried. The RSS walked in the city with hammers in hand and broke all the beautiful antique azulejo tile work for the street signs. The PM of india's government has said that they wanted to hold a "homecoming" for all Christians to convert back to Hindu. So it is very complicated. The Bajrang dal also have gone into Christian neighborhoods like just last year, thousands of Hindu men from all over India chanting like warriors, to demonstrate who is in charge in India. Just a lot of HATE in India. They always talk about the British being bad and racist and then you have to see what goes on in India with caste and the untouchables-called Dalits today.

They look like indian

me when I realised I’m ronaldos descendent:

U need to come night time

Old Portuguese language

They are not Portuguese They Indian Christian lol

tak kreatif langsung la komoniti kampung ni.. at least bina la bangunan yg cantik2 sikit..ini macam kawasan rumah taman boring je..

@norzainimohd-zain1325

16 күн бұрын

? It's a "Settlement". Tempat tinggal/perumahan. & yg Malaya telah bermurah hati 'beri' pada keturunan penjajah itu.

It is strange, in Goa - India, the policy of the Indian government is remove everything Portuguese from Goa even since India took over in 1961. We are taught to hate the Portuguese as the focus has been on the conversion of mainly Hindus to Christianity. The Indian government with the RSS took down a lot of Portuguese structures trying to wipe away anything Portuguese. In Panjim, the capital city, the RSS walked thru the streets breaking all the beautiful azulejos tile work for the street names. The government of the current PM has spoken of a "homecoming" for Christians to convert to Hinduism. The RSS also is demanding some sites that have churches need to be demolished as they were Hindu temples on them. A lot of harassment of Christians that gets worse every year. Most Christians are choosing to move to Christian countries overseas. When a recreation of Vasco de Gama's 500 year anniversary of his initial voyage was planned, the ship from Portugal was received by all former colonies except Goa. The Indian government refused entry into Goa. However they were allowed in International waters off the coast of Goa. We the people of Goa have moved on and not harbored hatred for the Portuguese and so the locals got on boats and went out the ship throwing flower garlands in peace. The Portuguese also did a lot of good that we are grateful for. The current PM of India also has said that anyone saying "Viva Portugal" when Portugal is playing in World Cup Soccer will be arrested and jailed. Last year his Chief Minister of Goa stated that they will "wipe away anything Portuguese in Goa". All this hatred because some Hindus 500 years ago chose to become Christians during the time of the Portuguese. They have one billion Hindus in India but i guess that is not enough? The schools today have a curriculum that focuses on conversion of Hindus and portrays the Portuguese in a bad light. They refuse to be equal and teach of the great legacy the Portuguese left in Goa. Only because of tourism have the old Portuguese buildings have been saved as the RSS wanted them all torn down when India took over in 1961. Hindu icons/sculptures are forcefully put in Christian neighborhoods. If they try to remove them because they are blocking traffic a whole group of thousands and thousands of men from the Bajrang dal show up showing their might threatening to harm the locals in that area. i wonder if the Christians that fought against the Portuguese ever thought what would happen to the Christians once India took over??? The Christians in Goa went from over 75% Christians at the turn of the 19th century to less than 23% Christians as Goa has had half its population today coming from the rest of India which is Hindu. And with the constant threats more and more Christians are choosing to leave with Portuguese passports. The Portuguese felt sorry for abandoning the Christian community and offered Portuguese citizenship to all people from Goa for up to three generations from 1961. Unfortunately when you are a minority in any community you will be constantly bullied and you will not have peace. This is why the Portuguese colony of East Timor fought to be independent. It is the only way to survive. The majority will always put laws in place to take any land or resources away from you. i wish this community the best of luck.

@ronlombok1677

18 күн бұрын

In Malacca, we take pride having historical Portugal Settlement.

Fyi. To be a Malaysian malay, you have to be a muslim, speak malay and practice malay culture. If a malay choose to denounce islam, they too would not be considered a Malay even if they are ethnically from the malay race. Thats according to our constitution.

Overtook is a generous word, trying to colonize fits better

Komplen2 plak orang asing susah hidup kt negara Islam.Pasal apa x pindah balik Portugal.

I have no idea how you gonna find the Portuguese speaker when you cant even speak Portuguese 😮‍💨

@rollinghippo2940

13 күн бұрын

hahaha

Sepatut nya Malaysia hapuskan atau robohkan segala barang atau bangunan peninggalan penjajah kerana ia nya mempunyai sejarah hitam yg menyedihkan. Soalan nya kenapa kita sampai hendak membesar besarkan peninggalan penjajah dgn alasan konon nya ia ada lah sejarah Malaysia dan boleh jadikan tempat tarikan pelancong. yg di katakan sejarah itu ia lah seuatu yg di lakukan oleh rakyat negara itu sendiri sedangkan penjajahan di lakukan oleh orang asing dgn cara paksaan. ada kah kita merasa bangga apabila kita di jajah? Sesetengah orang berpendapat itu akan mengingati dan menyedarkan kita kapada penjajah tapi kenapa? sedangkan kita dan termasok negara mana pun tidak suka di jajah dan akan melupakan nya kerana ia nya menyakitkan serta memalukan negara itu sendiri. Cuba kita lihat contoh nya ada beberapa negeri barat yg pada masa dulu pernah di perintah oleh orang islam tapi, apabila mereka jadi memerintah negara sendiri mereka hapuskan atau mereka ubah semua peninggalan orang luar yg memerintah negara mereka dahulu. Jadi jgn lah kita bangga yg kita pernah di jajah jadi lah negara dan rakyat yg pernah menentang penjajah dan tentu nya banyak benda benda atau pun tempat yg di tinggalkan oleh pejuang perjuang rakyat kita terutama bangsa melayu yg menentang penjajah, jadi kenapa itu semua tidak di tonjolkan atau di pamerkan kapada umum atau pun kapada pelancong yg berkunjong ke Malaysia. Malaysia mungkin terlalu bangga jadi negara dan bangsa yg pernah di jajah kerana itu lah sampai sekarang pun Malaysia dan rakyat nya terutama bumi putra ia itu melayu maseh di jajah dari segi ekonomi, budaya pemikiran dan juga politik. kita seperti tidak boleh melaksanakan sesuatu keputusan untok negara dan juga rakyat dan bangsa kita sendiri Soalan nya sampai bila?

@banisufigold5914

16 күн бұрын

sy setuju dgn apa point u bro, kecuali part menghancurkan semua tu. even dlm Islam memerintah dulu pun, dia tak hancurkan semua. yg hancur hanya benda2 yg berkaitan dgn aqidah & yg bertentangan dgn syariat dlm kalangan muslim shj. untuk yg bukan muslim, mereka blh meneruskan aktiviti mereka selagi mana tidak melakukan perkara yg menyalahi undang2. dlm perang pun ada adab, tak blh nak musnahkan tempat tertentu termasuklah rumah ibadat bagi kaum lain. kalau ketika darurat tu pun ada adab, apatah lagi ketika aman. cuma negara kita pun tak banyak mempromosikan kisah2 pejuangan @ peninggalan semasa zaman2 kegemilangan tempat2 ni dulu. sedangkan Malaysia ni banyak sejarah dia. banyak yg fikir, kemajuan dibawa oleh penjajah, sedangkan segala hasil tanah air kita la yg dibawa lari. sebelum dijajah, tempat ini dah ada tamadun. Ketika dijajah segalanya hilang. syukur aqidah islam masih bertahan, tidak sampai seperti negara jiran yg habis semuanya.

@MizanQistina

15 күн бұрын

Kenapa pulak nak roboh? ianya sejarah dan peringatan. Kalau roboh hilang bukti dan gerenasi akan datang buta sejarah. Sedangkan benda ada depan mata pun ramai yang buta sejarah. Bukan pasal bangga ke sedih ke apa ke, sejarah adalah untuk kita belajar darinya. Orang yang tak belajar sejarah akan mengulangi sejarah.

@RebekahAPinto

13 күн бұрын

Kenapalah nak musnahkan? Kita tak kacau pun awak. Buat apa nak kacau kita balik??

@RebekahAPinto

13 күн бұрын

​@@MizanQistina Saya setuju.