The item health specifically was probably meant to nerf the item for champions with insanely high base health, or who have their own health stacking mechanics such as cho, sion and the % buff from Ornn. Not to make the champions weaker, per say, just to keep them from scaling rapidly out of control. Just so happens to benefit pike who has a reverse health scaling passive

@arthena2130

3 ай бұрын

Yeah let's make Cho feel even worse to play.

@Zakaarus

3 ай бұрын

idk having to rush Heartsteel mythic feels trash compared to getting to pick your items and not having a huge forced synergy with it

@mask9127

3 ай бұрын

What do you mean by pyke having a reverse scaling?

@Zakaarus

3 ай бұрын

@@mask9127 technically not “reverse” but Pyke in a vacuum gets worse when converting gold / rune slots / whatever resource to HP due to the opportunity cost of simply getting an equivalent amount of AD which would be higher than the rate of his passive.

@Zakaarus

3 ай бұрын

so if the AD champ building AD is a foregone conclusion, building HP would eat into his AD by taking the money that’d be spent on that stat.

16:06 - look at this double ult. Awesome. Asking for a tank Cassiopeia. Days asked: 363, days skipped: 7, winrate: 98.108% Close to a full year... Core items: Archangel's, Heartsteel OR Iceborn Gauntlet, Riftmaker (for HP to AP conversion) AND/OR Liandry's Situational items (pick some): Rod of Ages, Rylai's, Cosmic Drive, Frozen Heart, Abbysal Mask, Spirit Visage, Force of Nature, Kaenic, Jak'Sho, Warmog's Primary runes: Grasp, Demolish, Conditioning, Overgrowth OR standard Conqueror. Secondary runes: Manaflow, Gathering Storm OR Presence of mind, Last stand. Extra facts: You want Archangel's first, because Cass is so mana hungry. Gauntlet might work, because with E you'll proc it often. Heartsteel will easily proc because you're ranged and fast. For the same reason Rylai's will be excellent for kiting, just like bruiser Ashe. Spirit Visage synergizes with your E healing and Seraph's shielding. "My viewers BEGGED me for a Tank Cassiopeia build... And it's actually busted" My thanks for supporting this suggestion (in many ways) go to: GiovanniBoss, Lena Miaou, D.Lockholm, FashionSuckMan, Thaddeus Hill, Gustavo Martirena, Kuroji, Maja, Jänix Burger, Fitzgerald Stanbury Weiss the 5th, Dávid Hidvégi, TimmyMicBobbins, cozuuz-. I like any feedback on this comment!

@proveitbrother5089

3 ай бұрын

Buddy went and planned the whole thing for @zwag what a legend

@janwilczynski6010

3 ай бұрын

@@proveitbrother5089 Nah, legend... Gotta make it special somehow, that's all

@ttv_zombiefetus1710

3 ай бұрын

What is bro yapping about

@user-gr9fj7rb4y

Ай бұрын

Whaaaaaaaaat the fuck

The one big problem with this build, is that to stack the heartsteel, you need to stay close to then enemy for a length of time. To do that you need survivablity. Normally heartsteel provides that, but not for pike. So for this to work well against good teams, I think there needs to be suvivability in the build. Either armor, MR, shields, lifesteal. The heartsteel is going to stack AD infinitely anyways, so I think more tank items in the build would be more interesting. I think maybe thornmail or dead man's against AD heavy teams. Maybe spirit visage against heavy AP. Jak'sho or athema's are generically good. Maybe not full tank build, but I think some would make it more interesting.

@delirious8424

3 ай бұрын

Aint stoneplate gone?

@chuckmanion1128

3 ай бұрын

@@delirious8424 I meant deadman's. I always mix up the names. Even with stoneplate gone I still mix them up.

@feitopuns

3 ай бұрын

dd is the only survivability you can get as damage pyke

@youtubealt243

3 ай бұрын

Jaksho, force of nature and deadman’s? Not only do you have both armour and mr, you also get a LOT of move speed, and dead man’s damage scales off your ad OR just go edge of night, it has hp, lethality and ad, and provides a spell shield for heartsteel stacks

That kha is clueless

“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?” No, he missed a caster minion Lose Streak: 2

@ragdraki1029

3 ай бұрын

day uh 463 of waiting for grandpas son to return

should've went hubris for extra stacking

@aazxcasd

3 ай бұрын

that would just slow down the process can u please use ur brain just this once

@EmperorMuch

3 ай бұрын

@@aazxcasd 👆🤓

@valorantspartan1257

3 ай бұрын

mundo w in the bathtub@@aazxcasd

@iamnowgaming

3 ай бұрын

@@aazxcasd my brother in christ that's called SCALING

@iamnowgaming

3 ай бұрын

but if you think otherwise that's ok 👍

Good episode of BRONZE ADVENTURES

the way you dissed kha hurts my jgl main soul

@Lmafaooo

3 ай бұрын

Deserved for playing broken unbalanced champ

@james8002

3 ай бұрын

@@Lmafaooohe’s a challenger player playing in an almost full iron lobby…

@Lmafaooo

3 ай бұрын

@@james8002 who cares

@GGson123

3 ай бұрын

​@@james8002He wishes he was a challenger player.

Thanks for the great vid Zwag!

so if you were to get this and the stack ad lethality weapon... how much ad would you end up at...

I wonder how well this would work with swapping in a Hubris as 3rd/4th item to double stack the AD

@dheiyomain6775

3 ай бұрын

What if tytanic hydra too? Triple stack?

@billylion3073

3 ай бұрын

@@dheiyomain6775 you get nothing off the hydra it scales off hp and pyke gets no hp from the items

@MuffinEmpire

3 ай бұрын

@@dheiyomain6775 it doesnt give ad anymore, just onhit based on health

@user-hj5sf7ns3j

3 ай бұрын

@@dheiyomain6775 I thought of that too! But Pyke already converts any extra HP he gets into AD so the Titanic Hydra would be pointless!

@youtubealt243

3 ай бұрын

You wouldn’t get any extra item hp, honestly I think just going an extra hp item would stack ad faster via the increased heartsteel scaling If you want a lethality item in the build I think edge of night is the way to go, it has item hp

Went to like after “I’m bard and I’m helping” and then realized I already like the video lmao

This was something I messed with and it works. Doesn't give him bonus HP but helps with HP regen and AD stacking. Surprised more people arent doing it.

I want to see zwag build warmogs once before I die.

Zwag you should do ultimate infinite ad build and add a hubris

Day 17 of asking for full attack speed Zoe

@metamorphichoe

3 ай бұрын

Think he did that already

@user-de3ox2zz7u

3 ай бұрын

You missed it, stop asking

@iunacosta6620

3 ай бұрын

Day 2 returning supporting

@refloxi5290

3 ай бұрын

Fk that, full onhit orianna

@stantheman143

3 ай бұрын

When? ​@@metamorphichoe I can't find the new video

Hey zwag try Yorick attack speed with lethal tempo its really good

movespeed boots gets insane value from a pyke mid. u can beat the timing before your ult expires for one or more kills

I’ve been playing this in aram since heartsteel came out

Relentless Hunter might be better since almost every item in the build has couldown. More stacks too !

So. Wukong's E has decent ap scaling. Perhaps playable mid with a build with lichbane, nashors and perhaps riftmaker?

@brendonszemturis2830

3 ай бұрын

One known chineese or korean chall is playing wu that way. But he relied on ludens, so afther cuting off item cdr throu damage procs with what ap wu could proc 2 -3 times that item pasive per fight no wis dead slot.

lol, I started playing Pyke Heart Steel long time ago, before it was nerfed XD

I wish you went warmogs just so I can see ur ad sky rocket

Isn't heartsteel than full crit better?

Go tank shaco. It's easier to stack Hearstill cause it doesnt show the indicator to the enemies now. Does a lot of damage too depending on what you build

What song is playing at 8:00?

12:40 How did Pyke heal under ignite? I thought his passive works when he's not in vision and ignite reveals the target.

@Brunerth

3 ай бұрын

for whatever reason pyke either isn't revealed by ignite or heals through it

@herbalbeverage

3 ай бұрын

Ignite only "reveals" the target, but doesn't break camouflage like pyke's W. The eyes above his head don't necessarily mean the enemies can see him, which can get confusing since both reveal and true sight (which WOULD make him visible) use the same indicator.

Bro deserved to be called Fart instead of Bard for that goober play😮

PLC Play Talon ,kassadin , Nocturne 😊

i know you are delaying your first item but, but why not go tiamat first item agains a melee like Talon?

bard couldve ulted that tower when you roamed bot the first time, would've made it easier

You should redo this with Hubris and gathering storm. See how high you can max pykes ad xD

No way you let Gamer Dad swag on you like that 😢

Hey have u thought of playing Ksante? Just make him unkillable raid boss

Attack speed trundle ?:)

Day 1 of asking for max movement speed ad cho'gath

Could it work supp?

Now imagine a Pyke with heartsteal and hubris

@Alasadg

2 ай бұрын

worse stacking than just heartsteel and a bruiser item

@BoredPipe

2 ай бұрын

At the time, the stacking wasn't clear. I was just imagining getting +4 ad every time he met a squishy champion. I hope you have a great day :D

I love that talon skin

Bruiser Pyke doesn’t exist, bruiser Pyke can’t hurt you

Favorite moment of the video: ( ) Epic executions (X) "MY CANNON!!"

So I counted what each heart steel stack gave and at the end of the match you got 65 ad from the stacks alone.

@PreKGraduate

3 ай бұрын

You can just divide the number shown on heartsteal (976) by 14. And doing this you’ll find it actually gave 69.7 extra AD at the end

Zwag StrideB doesn't do dmg on the actice now :/

667 is a lmited number tho I thought u'd get smth past the limit into negatives

rip the khaix no leash oof

Im proud to say ive been doing this build for over 3 years

I’m trying this ASAP

who is this Mike Anon, that he always talks about??

as someone who runs this build over the assassin build. stridebreaker is a better tiamat item than titanic

now do pyke attack speed build😁😁

You know what else stacks ad? AD items!

Hi zwag

Does warmogs regen work with pyke?

@krabby4456

3 ай бұрын

no cuz pykes passive converts all health into damage so you cant stack enough bonus heal for warmogs passive to work

hmmm i might try this now

14:57 I don’t think that bard ult was bad, zwag was dead anyway

Stacking lethality still gives more ult dmg than health/ad

So I am not an editor but....if you loop 07:15-07:17, you could have a sick beat...

So they nerfed it for sion swain and grasp?

@arthena2130

3 ай бұрын

And Cho

Day 2 of asking for attack speed sona

Kinda forget he built the heartsteel and was thinking why tf is pyke so big

@Bread011

3 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Pyke gains 0 size from heartsteel due to heartsteels size scaling with bonus HP, and pykes passive doesn't allow him to gain any bonus hp

Vex gameplay please? 😁

14:58 truly a Bard moment

@whindmane612

3 ай бұрын

Yeah because he totally knew that zwags stun was gonna be up???????? He did his job right by trying to save zwag but zwag wanted to continue fighting on 50 hp.

@DevilcakeLive

3 ай бұрын

Agree completely. Zwag shouldve either gotten hit by the bard r to stop the tick damage of ignite or dash away​. Then bard couldve stunned and clean with teemo@@whindmane612

You baited bot lane so hard with that terrible dive lol

Nice passive

Just add Hubirs to this build

day 24 of sleeping to zwag's vid

14:05 “SURPRISE MF!” -Malphite

@sarahmoll514

3 ай бұрын

Fr

Question: And what about to go crit with that glitch? Maybe you can't reach 667. but even with 600, a crit with Infinity blade can be SO funnnnn... I have to try that ^^

No one going to ask about the ffs?

The bug with pyke is heart steel stacks scale off health, pyke at lv 18 can not gain more hp so the amount of hp given by heart should stay the same but for some reason it keeps going up as if pyke is gaining hp

@isaac_marcus

3 ай бұрын

This is explained in the first 20 seconds

Its not a glitch its a *feature* there is a difference between the two

@kizikucalegon8673

3 ай бұрын

You'll note that every video title is basically clickbait. But it works, so I can't complain even as my hope for the species withers and dies.

Proof that pyke is broken and needs nerfs badly

Is it me or does he barely use wards?

wow great!

Day 1 of asking for full ap tristana in jungle

heartsteel always stacked AD. u just notice 3 month ago is different.

20:24 this mf just had some bars damn

Where do you live 2010?

You should try this with hubris too

The problem with Pyke is : His abilities scale off LETHALITY. If you don't build items with this stat , you will be utterly useless. I get that this is a fun build or something , but it's simply not good + your teammates will flame you for it .

@Alasadg

2 ай бұрын

yes and no, did the math, this build has a higher execute threshold until 4 items, the only ability that is worse is his W (e does more damage, stun is shorter)

Start an attack speed series, on champs that you normally wouldn't . Like your morde video, pkye with 3.0 attack speed is funny, same with nasus. Some champs it's just to watch then swing far faster than you would ever expect.

Titanic Hydra gives a ton of damage on Pyke and a smooth aa reset, not to mention the improved waveclear

@youtubealt243

3 ай бұрын

The issue is it scales with *actual* health, which is turned into ad for pyke. Meaning titanic can’t scale and does almost no damage with its abilities The reason this works for heartsteel is because in season 14 it was changed to scale with the health of the items you have, not the health of your champion

Man I wanted you to have a good lane but that Talon is Iron at best. Bro has no lock down and sought to try to out scale Pyke knowing damn well how slippery he can be. He also just continued aggression when behind instead of cutting loses and roaming like Talon should at 6.

2400 health with 700+ heartsteel how?

@Alasadg

2 ай бұрын

pyke cant gain health

Play Darius with heartsteel now

@maciek__9823

3 ай бұрын

Now

Here before good ol Kyle.

Heartsteel has always worked and given him ad, the hp from items has also always increased the stacks b Heartsteel gives I played a practice tool last season to see how it’d work and yeah.

@MuffinEmpire

3 ай бұрын

The problem was that Heartsteel would take your total hp and give you a percent of that for each stack, a slight problem for pyke because his hp never actually increases because of his passive. Now that it only looks at item hp (a nerf for champs like sion or cho) it doesnt matter that his health never increases because the items still give HP, meaning that as you get more items each proc of heartsteel will give you more hp and do more dmg. In comparison to before when it would always give you the same amount of health and do the same amount of dmg because pykes passive never let him gain HP.

Build's cool and all but Pyke's Lethality Scaling is a lot stronger than Heartsteel will be, I know it's just a meme build but just saying lol

Azir JG

Kha asking Midland for leash is crazy

"Yay smack em!" made laugh out loud for some odd reason. 9:48

Day 1 asking for vampire Vladimir with hearthsteel, Riftmaker and Spirit Visage

Paper zero game bruh

Day 2 of asking for a Viktor game

This game is so odd

Beef

? i dont see any glitch there

Warmogs 800 item hp should be 57 AD + insane regen, but you already have some regen built in so 🤷. 31:00 "he didn't get elder execute somehow" 😂 forgot it was just showing his own ULT thresh hold and they didn't have elder. 😂

@HF-cx4wl

3 ай бұрын

I don't think warmogs regen can even activate on pyke

@Tank22080

3 ай бұрын

@@HF-cx4wl Really?! Why not?

@HF-cx4wl

3 ай бұрын

@@Tank22080 pyke can never meet the activation condition: have >800 bonus health, since he converts his bonus health to AD.

@herbalbeverage

3 ай бұрын

@@Tank22080 Warmogs requires you to have 1300 bonus health for the passive to work, and pyke can never have bonus health because of his passive. :(

@Tank22080

3 ай бұрын

@@herbalbeverage Oh ty didn't understand his passive.

Pyke will always be my auto ban...I don't care.. love to see good pyke games, but I'm NEVER playing a game with that guy

I didn't need this much stress however it was fun :D