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@armanillo4695
Жыл бұрын
I wish you didn't promote this dogshit betting service that promotes people to be bad actors in games in order to win some money
@alexreiner2658
Жыл бұрын
when is the correct time to take talent?
@onebaliwgg8206
Жыл бұрын
can you make item and skill guide for this? like torte guide
Babe, wake up, datoh uploaded a new vid
@ibrahimsalman5504
Жыл бұрын
Wake up, you dont have a girl
@ronaldodiaz4748
Жыл бұрын
Literally me, from archon 5 to legend 5 almost ancient with sf build by dotaleong
@petkofuchalski9809
Жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimsalman5504 projecting much?
@waynewynnx7976
Жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimsalman5504 Hahahaha 😂🤣
@nanyabiznus4738
Жыл бұрын
@@petkofuchalski9809 splash of reality
This will less likely work if you dont have a friend that will help you lane and farm safer. Random people will outright refuse to help you lane or farm when you pick like that, because they rather believe youre throwing than believe that you are serious with your pick.
@vio55
Жыл бұрын
then just play mid and pretend u are a drow mid
I recommend casting Coldsnap before Tornado so you secure some extra stuns frames for the Meteor to land, this frames can sometimes be used by the victim to avoid a big chunk of the combo. Also there are basically 4 different ways to cast Deafening Blast after Tornado by changing the angle but mostly the timing you can make the Def Blast push the enemy Forwards ( without thinking, enemies taking about 80% max dmg out put, this will be affected by the enemy move speed ), Backwards ( if too early and you make them hit it with its tail ), Perfectly synced & aligned with the Meteor's rolling ( if still affected by Coldsnap, this will most likely be the case but you need to mind the timing ) or as a Cross section if u dont have access to Coldsnap and need to compensate for the enemies' most probable scape route.
@miglehp4592
8 ай бұрын
he casts coldsnap after tornado but before the tornado projectile lands, meaning he gets more uptime from the coldsnap while still getting the first stun as soon as they land from the tornado.
@eiatot6455
8 ай бұрын
@@miglehp4592 CS first tick secures obvious or forced tornados, else people can react with a force staff. What u are saying is good but it all depends on what u need to prioritize
i played nearly exactly that item build on invoker 10 years ago back in dota 1 & only used forged spirits/meteor/alacrity & sometimes sunstrike😄
@Gabriel.Q
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the alacrity cold snap + MOM build. That shit was broken once upon a time
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
invoker's recent talents made him a beast at carrying
@yoink9148
Жыл бұрын
back in the day its bad, its only good now because of the changes and talents that amps his orbs.
@mrhs-oe4mu
Жыл бұрын
@@yoink9148 invoker hitter build is so common back days 😅 you just need to set up with ghost walk and buy mom + bkb/orchid + cold snap + forge spirit
@mirceadanila865
9 ай бұрын
This type of voker was op since dota 1 days, when i also played ss+ fs + exort + alacrity and buriz + mom + ac..good old 10+ years old s**t
This was quite popular years ago, especially with the AC - Forge Spirit right click is underated, back then we used to build basilus just to strengthen the spirits, nice content as always!
@beoptimal8650
Жыл бұрын
forge spirits+necrobook+forcestaff
@kaelxeth
Жыл бұрын
@@beoptimal8650 good old days, where invoker is a furion with spells
Wish more people played dota. This channel is underrated af
@Theresnoname8876
Жыл бұрын
wow new invoker playstyle(open steam friendlist) My Friendlist:3999days online ago
@amamamiamh1619
Жыл бұрын
Game is dying, not newcomer friendly as well, old player have that toxic mentality... Unfortunately that'll kill people in long term
@MinesCafeOHG
Жыл бұрын
@@amamamiamh1619 part of it is from "forfeit in captain mode only" so all pick or ranked, hostage in fountain farming and "comeback is real", not everyone likes sweaty ass games every single time believing there's a chance
@sobbiess
Жыл бұрын
I am a new player that joined 3 weeks ago, I can tell you about newcomer POV. - Game is toxic - Everyone is spamming annoying voice messages - Everyone inside is already quite experienced with the game and I got rekted most of the time - Why is there no vote based surrender like League? (Especially when DotA takes longer to end a game)
@jhdivina
Жыл бұрын
@sobbiess there is a mute option, which i find helpful to make my games less toxic. Also, i don't come across much toxicity, and i play in SEA. Just mute the noisy ones and play your game.
Man, I knew this was doable but it had to have a specific early build and behavior. THANK YOU 💕
He is like the Ph. D of dota writing a paper about hero and skills. Intro, theory and example, evidence and conclusion. Win or lose, he proved it convincingly.
@MegaPhill93
Жыл бұрын
this deserve more like
You know you make a good content when i only see your video popped on my feed and i already start smiling. Good job datoh!
@durere
Жыл бұрын
haha yes, same here
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
awww
You know something is wrong if you play in SEA but everyone are nice to you
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
ikr, i expect to hvae ppl flame me but most people trust me idk why
So much fun seeing this type of invo again, last time i have a friend that play the exact playstype but still midlane, rushing sb, burize, bkb, skadi and AC, and cold snap alacrity is his friend, it was fun seeing him melting the opponents, just that us supports have to play all the fat heroes
I did play invoker safe lane back then. It was on 1-4-4 build that has Madness and Crystalys, with Alacrity and Cold Snap to start team fight, you just right click stuff.
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
that's unlikely to work now, double forge too valuable 😅
@alexkroeger4113
Жыл бұрын
it could work if you have your support to stack for you, so you can take it with meteor and deafening blast. if you want to fight, you can buy Diffusal blade and use ghostwalk, it's fast bcs of Wex. Diffu > Meteor > Alacrity would be enough. You don't wanna use Cold snap bcs it's bad at lvl 1 Quas. you keep farming until you get gleipnir. After this everything is the same regular invoker.
@orven_lou
Жыл бұрын
1-4-4 is not a good build, double forge will always be better not to mention cold snap with lvl 1 quas is too weak
Tat first pick got me 🤣🤣🔥 lucky u!!
my friend use to play invoker like this back in dota 1, he goes helm of dominator to bring cents and lifesteal then buriza for damage then cuirass and deso for armor melter
5:04 tide be like: heeey, be careful man!
I had to say I love your videos! they are super funny and helped me get from 2k to 4k mrr
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
thank god cuz most ppl will say they lose after using it haha
@KidTrigger
Жыл бұрын
Imagine being 4k mmr lol your so bad noob 😊
1. Watch this video 2. Gets hype 3. Find match 4. Feed 5. Get reported This is me every time DATOHLEONG post a new video.
@ronaldodiaz4748
Жыл бұрын
U dont know how to play bruv
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
6. get out of low prio 7. watch next video
10:40 that chess simp collab is crazy
I remember using this a long time ago. I remember using Eul's to shore up the combo and give bonus move speed for regen. I tell people invoker can basically play any role. Noobs don't know.
This is how i play it first time, its morphling but simpler.. i was afraid to do it again due to the pubs expectation.
This is crazy! ^^ Im gonna try this build rn
10 games later -2k behavior score
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
xd
was looking for some tips on my void vs ember mid....that was like 6 vids ago. love your stuff m8. your videos i mean o.o;
long time fan here, datoleong have you tried boots of bearing? its perfect with certain matchup on invoker + synergy with forge spirit. You should check it out with enemies who likes to slow
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
interesting idea
Now im inspired to play pos1 invoker in my ranks and ruin my team’s day :)))) tnx for the content
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
nOOO its play to win! 😅
@nathan2964
Жыл бұрын
@@datohleonggez bro the problem is, not every player has the same lvl of game skills you have to win these games XD But yeah I understand ure doing it for content. Im a fan!
7:58 when you wololoo enemy Tusk and is your side now...
Good guide on voker
I had very little success with your SF offlane idea, but im 2-0 so far with this build with most hero dmg both games. 500 games on invo is also helping ;D
Right click invoker is underrated. His physical attacks hurt so much with just the alacrity and forged spirits.
I don't know who you are but your vids keep showing and I always click every single one of em. Not only you're entertaining to watch, you're actually very good at the game. +1 fan
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the good old invoker, magician on steroids.
You deserve way more than 95k subs dude.
Just in time for that Invoker cache set, for me to start ruining ranked pubs
Very entertaining to watch, just don't let my future teammates see this xD
People will just straight throw or tilted when they see unfamiliar hero in some certain role. You will lose a lot. And thats not because hero is not good but the people are just too closed-minded.
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
that use to happen but recently i don't get many pubs cry about hero picks. mayb because a lot of heroes are slowly getting figured out to play differently, it becomes more accepting? idk
Wake up son, it's time for datohleong video
Thanks for the video
Well thanks for this I just had my invoker go 0-8 as pos1 in my game :D
Bei solchen Themen frage ich mich immer ob man nicht in der falschen Zeit geboren ist. Wir sind zu spät geboren um die unentdeckten Orte der Erde zu entdecken, aber zu früh geboren um das Weltall zu erkunden. In 1000 Jahren könnte die Venus bewohnbar sein oder in 100 Jahren vielleicht die erste Stadt auf dem Mars stehen. Doch mit Blick auf die Informatik denke ich, dass wir genau in der richtigen Zeit leben. Wir bekommen gerade hautnah die Technologiesierung unserer Erde mit. Und nicht nur das. Laut Prognosen werden wir miterleben, dass die Intelligenz von KI die der Menschen übertrumpfen wird. Wenn das nicht unglaublich spannend ist, weiß ich auch nicht weiter :D Wir leben nicht in der falschen Zeit, wir müssen einfach nach Genialität ausschau halten... Genialität, die wir zu häufig einfach mit Alltag verwechseln! Jede Zeit ist spannend!
nice plays. commenting for the algorithm
Do you play pos 4 earth spirit?
cant wait to see this on my pubs
SEA players watching this: Write that down, write that down!
Great content, keep it up
Very cool drow ranger build.
Right Click build is here..love it🤭
this was made in herald unranked dont try yourself at home
imagine if Mask of madness doesnt silence the user like years ago, my calendar would go back to the first dota days lmao
last game was great one. I watched every single sec.
Finally I was getting bored playing invoker normally
Whats your take on witch blade? It provides mana att speed and works well with cold snap
this is really very interesting
team dk/burning ran safelane invo back in the days, I don't know why it was never used in tournaments again
I watched this for guilty pleasure.
thank god there are subtitles
Still thanking for the meepo strat 💕 playing over a years. And now this 😈
OMG THANK YOU! O always have a fucking invoker in my team making my game hell, mid, sup 4,5, offlane, and now im going to have a fucking CARRY INVOKER, THANK YOU SIR
LET'S GOOOOO!!! NEW DATOH VIDEO!!
13:08 me too bro . . . me too
i hal also being asking higher rank players why nobody use invo spells as utility not as main dmg deal. Thank you for this.
Okay here we go!!!
Would adding wraith pact be a good move too?
Yea dude whenever I went into exort I always thought like it's a waste building into spell heavy items with all these right clicks
i mean cool, but most times the hero doesnt shine by itself the build works cause you get tuskm legion and marci to buff you hard time, while pulling everyone's attention
time to watch my team doing similar thing but with rapier feed
this is a more advanced sf pos 1 and not as easy to pull off. Although just alacrity, forge spirits and cold snap can work in low pubs
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
yeah basically sf/drow but with spells
Okay, back to playing.
i remember dota 1 AI invoker use manta and deso
Funnily enough valve decided to make him hit way harder so this become a mainstream build now.
Im doing this build way back when playing dota 1
Remind me the old auto attack invoker during Dota 1 era
You should revisit this now that invoker is universal this will probably be even stronger now.
Instead of getting falcon get urn, similar mana regen and stats, but gives urn effect that combo with coldsnap.
at 4:38 u also got bonus attack speed from drow ult right?
How much mmr do you have bro?
my old style invoker euls build wont work anymore???
Datohleong wey is at revelation level, nota mere way.
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
i like to find new ways to play old heroes
My firend had a similliar build, but instead of falcon blade, he just bought the sage mask, to THREE GLOVES OF HASTE, that turns into threads and midas
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
that's not very tanky, safe lane voker are up against 2 heroes so need more health early
@jaquinite
Жыл бұрын
@@datohleonggez he still goes for sticks and null
datohleong ,i hope to see a '10 plays you missed at the TI 11 Finals' or something like that soon. I hope u read my comment as i really enjoy ur content.💕
could we replace the daedelus with bloodthorne? which is better?
you miss the desolator, im often used this kind of build AND YES wit this build i met am with black mail
@aouka6060
Жыл бұрын
*blade mail
I wanna see you play Weaver pos 1.
I used to do this alacrity build with madness and malevolence. It was pretty nuts. Really high dmg. Glass cannon tho.
@melancholy9236
Жыл бұрын
it was so good with bloodthorn
this is good content ! xD
Invoker Attack Range/animation is nuts as well as the quas exort abuse. Ive seen ppl do this but it literally will not work in 4k lower due to the mentality of the trench goers.
can you make support alchemist work, maybe with 3 venge? Also carry/offlane maiden? her lvl2 is insanely strong!
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
ye i think support alche is possible
@paperstars9078
Жыл бұрын
@@datohleonggez I have given this some thought, and I think a reasonable goal is to have the enemy be so afraid of you that you can just hide in the trees/to the side of the lane and the enemy is to afraid to even pull aggro. I learnt that most of the time a slow is enough, because keeping enemies in acid longer is really strong. Your other hero needs to be somewhat tanky or you have to be very careful with them(venge/cm are strong but might die too quickly) A strong aghanim hero on your lane doesnt matter because chances are mid or carry will have a strong aghanim upgrade. You always want to get blink before aghanims since it allows you to stay relevant for a really long time. Basi + Mana boots into wraithpact is very playable although you might not get as many kills so it might not be as much fun(but still very fun) It doesn't really matter if the enemies have high armor, it only matters if they can avoid the stun.
Was wondering why not Revenant's Brooch as well for invoker. Since it also deal damage and give slow for 4 secs
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
because i wanna build high physical burst + tank. can't get one shotted as a carry so most items are build to stand my ground and fight
@ReSV1
Жыл бұрын
@@datohleonggez Seen Topson playing that build as a right-click DPS similar to your style of play, but he went Brooch and Bloodthorn instead of the pure physical DPS like yours. Wondering if there is any difference
Wouldn't wraith band instead of null talisman also be an option(like depending who you lane against? i mean voker has already pretty decent rightclick damage, and the asp bonus and the armor from wb might be usefull for him if he has to sustain alot of physical damage harrass, especially against armor reduction, or controlled units or something. Just food for thought.
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
i tried before, wraith band right clicks are stronger but usually get run down when I don't have enough mana to fight back, 1 null usually gives enough mana for early fights.(I could ice wall + sunstrike + cold snap + forge + occasionally meteor) i compared both builds and having mana is more valuable than having slightly more attack speed/right clicks
@potpot439
Жыл бұрын
@@datohleonggez Oh alright then, great build anyways :D I'd try it if i wouldn't have quit dota a few weeks ago haha
im going to try this at unranked :D
"in front of their friends and family" 💀💀💀💀
That's me in the video
may i ask a genuine question? in this build, is witchblade not better? seems like this build wants to fight more as a carry rather than sitting on jungle farming? this video is very fun might try to improve my invo skills and try it out sometime.
@datohleonggez
Жыл бұрын
witch blade is commonly seen on mid, my idea is the have lance eventually become pike for more mobility. then most items are build to carry late game. high physical burst can melt buildings/rosh and scale, the rest of the items are build to be really tanky so i can stand my ground and fight
when i play dota 1 using invoker, i just using alacrity coldsnap and forgespirit, and early item is midas dominator pt, coz dominator in dota 1 give 20damage and lifesteal
Basically how to play invoker correctly to the injokers out there
The only problem I have with many of your strats, is that I don´t play as well as you xD. Don´t think i can pull them of. Nice video though
i wish i can play voker like this
I promise i will try this
not only invoker tho but any hero u can use core items just like dota 1
Its just too bad i can't PLay Invoker XD ,Good play as always man