This should be called “MGEdit”, because that’s a much cooler name than “MGE but you can edit the map”.

@commodorex

2 ай бұрын

I am so sad, I thought of the same thing but 10 hours later😭

@noahhamilton5974

2 ай бұрын

Nah, it's ultiMGE chicken horse

@Zyquux

2 ай бұрын

​@@noahhamilton5974 I was thinking Ultimate Chicken Fort.

@kevinbruins4944

2 ай бұрын

MGE camping edition

@MystralThunder

2 ай бұрын

@@commodorexStill thought of it, pretty cool!

the arms race escalated so quickly. it started with "give me a ramp to reach high ground more easily", before going to "give me a button to kill TheWhatShow instantly"

@iamthemouse4483

2 ай бұрын

"Delete TF2 from TheWhat"

@user-bb8fx2yh3k

2 ай бұрын

"Kill TheWhat in real life"

@thenotrealwarhead

2 ай бұрын

“Give me a knockback 1000 stick and teleport TheWhat to me”

@Ethylus

2 ай бұрын

write “thewhatshow tf2” in the death note

@Shagaru_Bleed

2 ай бұрын

"Cover the TheWhatShow in oil and make him feel..."

this is like watching the kid who would always make up rules during recess so he doesn't lose but he's facing a kid who does the same

@M50A1

2 ай бұрын

All of those kids went into competitive gaming eventually

@jokerofspades-xt3bs

2 ай бұрын

I wanna do a D&D campaign where i cannot tell the players no. but i keep track of all of the stupid rules they make and use those dumb rules against them

@glden_I

2 ай бұрын

That'd be cool ​@jokerofspades-xt3bs

@realryushiro

2 ай бұрын

The kids that say "Time out" when you're 3 ft away from them in tag. Run 30 ft away and say begin again.

@lexyboi1461

2 ай бұрын

true

Me and my iconic giant block of slime

@-RandomStranger-

2 ай бұрын

yes

@Scoutussy

2 ай бұрын

So iconic!!

@zayneeeeeeeee7080

2 ай бұрын

I only watch your videos for the block of slime.

@okok09293

2 ай бұрын

slime

@jbomb06

2 ай бұрын

BFFB FDBFJKBFSKGBFKJBK brap brap brap thewhat stinky!!!!!!!!!!

It's kinda like ultimate chicken horse but in tf2. Awesome.

@acee555

2 ай бұрын

that's what im sayin!!!!!!

@giuseppe9653

2 ай бұрын

That game is fucking awesome

@user-jj9qd9bi8c

2 ай бұрын

He literally says in the description that this is inspired by that game

@Lermurmer

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-jj9qd9bi8c so I'm right

@ED-gw9rg

2 ай бұрын

Ultimate Chicken Fortress!

Teleporting to the other side of the map has always seemed like a strange case to me

@endarkenedgd

2 ай бұрын

grengith

@appelofdoom8211

2 ай бұрын

Nothing personell kid

@_phloggy_

2 ай бұрын

what is this zenith impersonator doing here

@Baron._

2 ай бұрын

its a push trigger zenith

@Lanetgm

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@_phloggy_he is the real one

Average Zenith change in one round: "I want you to trap him, give me ammo and health on a place safe for me, and uber"

@wisemysticaltree568

2 ай бұрын

Fr

@somnvm37

2 ай бұрын

considering all his challanges are just killing thousands of players with +2 pockets it's not surprising at all.

@objectionablycurious

2 ай бұрын

to be fair, thewhat just sat in spawn spamming flares for a good 8 matches

@SniperOnSunday

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile, TheWhat gets turned down for wanting a healthpack near spawn.

@khemically6124

2 ай бұрын

TheWhat: can I have the something to counter this Blue: no

8:40 So fun fact about doors! The actual collision of a door has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the door props in and of themselves, but rather a specific moving door object that's invisible and placed usually just behind the door. This means that just putting a door somewhere won't cut it to block off space, you actually need to add a clip brush in order to stop stuff from just phasing through it.

@Lizzen343

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the fact dude!

@LordRemiem

2 ай бұрын

Shounic and LED follower 🤝

@breadenjoyer76

2 ай бұрын

so your name is red but your pfp is blu

@crusadingcomrade8873

2 ай бұрын

@@breadenjoyer76 *They* are they spy

@zzyxxyzz5442

2 ай бұрын

​@@LordRemiem or just anyone familiar with hammer?

The unyielding light of God vs the enduring schemes of Lucifer

@SrQuack-js6sn

2 ай бұрын

The indomitable human spirit vs the wish to end it all

@zsomboregri758

2 ай бұрын

Which one is the giant slime

@Dalek59862

2 ай бұрын

​@@zsomboregri758god definitely.

@HyperDash47

2 ай бұрын

​@@zsomboregri758the combined strength of humanity

@eclipseknigth1174

2 ай бұрын

​@@HyperDash47so does that imply that the penis rock represents the wish to end it all?

52:48 "He just jumps stairs to stairs and I'm not allowed to instakill him!" Perfectly summarizes this entire video

"tf2 but if you lose, you make it unfair for the other opponent" prety cool pretty cool

@fedethegreat88

2 ай бұрын

And then they just add *slime*

@noahhamilton5974

2 ай бұрын

Wait till you play ultimate chicken horse

@Atylonisus

Ай бұрын

"you attempt to make it unfair for your opponent but actually just kneecap yourself because you didn't fully consider the repercussions of your actions"

The instant transmission push triggers were hilarious, but the rocket spawner at 43:10 had me cry-laughing

@andyblanton6570

2 ай бұрын

TELEPORTER GOIN UP

@naked_molerats_are_awesome

2 ай бұрын

/tp me thewhat

@67Pgame

Ай бұрын

Just the combination of the same explosion sound playing every game tick and seeing a LITERAL shower of rockets. I've not cried from laughter many times, but THAT did it for me.

Thewhat: put the health pack so he can still get it but it’s just a skill check Zenith: put a button that instant kills thewhat

@paevepailbrack6899

Ай бұрын

Did not think this was gonna be so literal

@primary2630

13 күн бұрын

I mean the saw blade in the health pack was kinda dumb but it was funny

This is like Ultimate Chicken Horse but more overcomplicated than it has any sane reason to be…

@noahhamilton5974

2 ай бұрын

You are right, he said so in the description

"I had my literal back against the wall, and then I just happened to phase through" is a hell of a quote

@admiraltonydawning3847

13 күн бұрын

Implausible Infiltration moment.

Surprised there weren't more rocket spawners pointed towards TheWhat's spawn after the *teleport's behind you* strat was "countered"

@hajimakairu5451

2 ай бұрын

Yeah TheWhat just couldn't catch a break with the amount of shit Zenith got away with that broke the only original rule of "keep it balanced" and blue just had to wonder why he was forced to play highly defensively smh

@noonehere6994

2 ай бұрын

@@hajimakairu5451I mean I'm pretty sure great blue kept waiting for thewhat to order the same thing since it was pretty funny

@primary2630

13 күн бұрын

not zenith's fault it took him so long to change it lol

"What's even the point if I can't just insta-kill TheWhat?"

That door incident felt like those scenes in movies where someone leans against a wall and opens a hidden door. You know, the classic "Wall rotates and they're gone".

"Popped a perc, stared at the eclipse, saw god staring back and he blinked first. All while I swam on my slime, runt." - Thewhat89

@piperbarlow1672

Ай бұрын

Read this like Dracula flow

@SunfallMelancholy

21 күн бұрын

that's the point

I absolutely love this. I would love to see more of this, possible even 2v2 where all players get one edit per round. I feel like the best part was the very last match and would love to see that be more-so of the middle of the game so the first is slow, middle is chaotic yet fun, third is just full on chaos

41:54 is insane, dude teleported like he just learned Instant Transmission

24:36 "but heavy's awesome!" "I don't care" The two heavy mains aren't gonna like that great blue.

@Underworlder5

2 ай бұрын

okay, who is the other one?

@zesnowpea6347

Ай бұрын

@@Underworlder5big joey

@ScoutTrooperMan

7 күн бұрын

@@zesnowpea6347 Bearded expanse as well

"What's even the fucking point of life if I can't insta-kill TheWhatShow every 2 seconds?" - Wise words from a wise tf2 player

Have the next one start on this map with the exact same changes and it just keeps building every episode

Easy fix to the overpowered stuff:randomize who's red and who's blue, or make the map symmetrical. That can make it a little fairer (or at least let people screw themselves over)

That was a ton of fun! If you want a more controlled environment for future games/videos of this style, you could create a butt load of prefabs, and then allow the players to chose from among those prefabs. This would also allow more complex logic setup to be built before hand, and implemented with the click of a button! If you want to push it even farther, could make it grid based and force the prefabs onto a grid.

@nobodyimportant9443

2 ай бұрын

so ultimate chicken horse TF2?

What I learned: TheWhat is more fun to versus than Zenith. Lol “I want an instakill.” LMAO

@Sypitz

2 ай бұрын

What do you expect from someone who does his challenges with pockets up his rear

@user-pz2xt1xw7r

2 ай бұрын

Really isn't lol, the what just camps with flares, or on the book till he gets the jump

@santiaguo21

2 ай бұрын

To be fair everybody needs an instakill TheWhatShow button in their lives. Zenith was denied his HUMAN RIGHT by blue.

@primary2630

13 күн бұрын

@@Sypitz which are you talking about I wanna view em

@mewmew8932

5 күн бұрын

@@Sypitz Do you not have 50 medics on you at all times?

51:00 ok, this whole fucking section was the most hilarious shit I've seen. It was pretty funny all the way through, and then at 52:50 Zenith just made me fuckin lose it, I cried for the entire next minute of the video. I can't even explain why that exact time when he repeated his desire to instakill TheWhat was so amazing, but the comedic effect was the best

@Sombodydumb

2 ай бұрын

Another thing at that section has the points be wrong like zenith not getting a point when he wins and when thewhat wins zenith gets the point :D

@ethoatom668

Ай бұрын

I think what does it for me is that he's able to say it with a straight face.

Make a button that instantly turns TheWhat into slime

I need a 50 episode series of this released weekly for the love of god please

The map by the end is just a demoknight's wet dream. Ramps, push triggers, water, mwah.

Thewhat seems like a genuine fun friend to play with. Zenith on the other hand…

i've missed theWhat's iconic block of slime, glad they brought it back

Map edits in TF2 have always seemed like a strange case to me

Love this! I think for the future the ruleset should be: After a duel, the loser gets to make 1 edit, THEN the winner gets to make 1 counter-edit, and then, most importantly, the loser gets to pick whether they get to be RED or BLU. This would hopefully encourage the loser of the previous match to come up with insane changes while the winner would be more focused on making the map balanced, as not doing so would always put them at a disadvantage. An additional rule could or could not be added that forbids the winner from simply mirroring the loser's edit.

Zenith is the type of guy who gave himself every power in existence while playing in the sandpit in kindergarten.

@itsraventm

2 ай бұрын

this is such a perfect description lmao

TheWhat: give me a health pack near the spell Blue: nah op too campy Zenith: let me teleport to his spawn instantly Blue: hmm ok seems balanced

@mewmew8932

2 ай бұрын

tbf, zenith figured that out on his own, blue didn't see that happening

@skelskeleton

2 ай бұрын

​@@mewmew8932 i mean no offense to blue but what else would a push 1000000 trigger pointed directly at thewhat's spawn do?

@mewmew8932

2 ай бұрын

@@skelskeleton keep someone away

@biggestenjoyerofthebiggest7796

2 ай бұрын

@@mewmew8932 keep them from jumping up onto the ledge when there's a completely unprotected staircase 5 steps away?

@mewmew8932

2 ай бұрын

@@biggestenjoyerofthebiggest7796 staircase predicable, platform not. You'll also notice that they were there for multiple rounds before he figured the trick out

Do this but on 2 fort

Zenith's push trigger is literally just king crimson

after watching 2 seconds i can tell this is a great blue classic

@LeSpydrByte

2 ай бұрын

Same 😂

@Tf2pyromaniacnotreal

2 ай бұрын

You immediately know it's a masterpiece one piece???😂

@LeSpydrByte

2 ай бұрын

“THE ONE PIECE IS not REAL”

@Tf2pyromaniacnotreal

2 ай бұрын

@@LeSpydrByte Yes, it is.

@lolucorn1

19 күн бұрын

​@@LeSpydrByteThats what the GOVERNMENT WANTS YOU to BELIEVE

I was hoping Zenny would request putting a giant sign on the wall that says "Subscribe to Zenith!". Maybe next time.

OK this was honestly very entertaining. I would love to see this played again. whether on a different map or with 4 people. Either way id love to see more

This reminds me of an old TF2 mode where people placed items to build their own fort on an empty map. I miss that mode.

@talfi

Ай бұрын

what was it called tho its familiar

@cappantwan2978

Ай бұрын

@@talfi I think it was called Fort Wars

"changes will be fair for both teams" went out the window VERY quick LMFAO.

The hammer editor has always been a strange case to me

I'd love more of this but you should definitely add some rules, so that it's more clear what the players can add, and it's not just dependant on your opinion of what's balanced. I've got 3 suggestions. 1. You cannot edit the spawn area 2. At least one class needs to be able to reach the point from spawn for both teams (so no completely blocking off spawn or the point) 3. Max one 1 sentry (lvl 1) 4. Nothing that immediately kills the opponent or makes yourself unkillable I'd say anything else is fair game since the loser can always counter an addition. (E.g. if spawn can only be left by mobility classes the loser can add a teleporter or a ramp.) Maybe you could allow certain OP things like an Uber button, but they have to be at an equal distance away from both spawns. I also think the winner should place first since it's an advantage to go after. The winner getting 1 feature and the loser getting 2 was really fun too. I REALLY hope to see more of this!

@andyfriederichsen

2 ай бұрын

And no spell books.

@badasscrusader

Ай бұрын

​@andyfriederichsen well no there can be spell books,but they have to be in the center to avoid camping,same with health and maybe ammo

god this was a blast to watch the whole time, i didn't even notice it was an hour long lmao

@anshsgh6092

2 ай бұрын

its WHAT

PLEASE make more of this, this was amazing to watch! I also love how long the video is. :o

I really want to see more videos of this format 😍 This is literally jusr Ultime Chicken Horse with guns

@noahhamilton5974

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, both are good

pls turn this into a series. I love it so much

Professional Calvinball with a referee. That's what I just watched. And it's still just as goofy from beginning to end.

I think this would be great to make all the changes symmetric, so each player has to make advantageous decisions for attacking with the knowledge that the opponent can do the same thing. By the end, you might have something incredibly well-balanced and interesting, rather than “unplayable”.

Awesome idea, it's interesting to watch the map evolve as the game progresses! I had an idea for some rules you could always try going forward: Only one sentry per player, and they can have the sentry moved around the center space of the "arena". Cannot create an effect that can instantly kill the opponent upon the match starting, maybe a certain HU distance from the doors on the outside?

This is such an incredible concept, executed extremely well. Please make this a series

"Add a Trainsawlaser to thewhat's spawnroom."

the slime block oddly displays how good source's lighting is even today

I’d love to see more of this, this is a great concept

Ultimate Chicken Horse but in TF2 is crazy

This was such an amazing video idea. I want to see so much more of this! Honestly a 10/10 concept.

2:07 another based take from Zenith. Literally the sanest most bro Chucklenut of em all. I would vote for him

This is one of.the funniest tf2 videos ive ever seen this format is amazing please make a part two!!! :D

This idea seems so good you could make an entire game around this idea. A 1V1 where the loser gets points to spend on mab-edits or perks or weapons.

this is one of the most entertaining and high potential concepts i've seen yet! keep this stuff up, it got me rolling on the floor laughing!!

Please for the love of God do this again. I was howling with laughter a few times and there absolutely needs to be more

That rule for balance went out the window in Zenith's favour pretty quick, huh? Rapidly became just a siege on TheWhat's spawn with rules on him being way stricter.

@Tyranitar.

2 ай бұрын

“Balance” my ass, half of what Zenith did was suggest more ways to make things less fair.

@Svar3n2527

2 ай бұрын

The fact that you are talking about balance in this fucking gamemod is funny

@hajimakairu5451

2 ай бұрын

@@Svar3n2527 That was literally the only rule at first. I would be fine with no balance if it was mutual, but it wasn't and it just made the vid more frustrating than fun to watch.

@Svar3n2527

2 ай бұрын

@@hajimakairu5451 the point of the first is not to make the game balanced is to not make this fucked/boring/impossible

@hajimakairu5451

2 ай бұрын

@@Svar3n2527 That'd be pointless pedantry if it weren't also wrong. Watch from 0:08 to 0:15 and you'll notice he specifically refers to balance. All he had to do was make the more powerful changes serve both sides (you know, balance them) and it would have been far more entertaining, not to mention fair. In addition, you'll also notice that TheWhat had to start playing really defensively (boringly) entirely because of how unfair what Zenith was getting away with was, therefore even by your own metrics it wasn't done well.

0:58 *Never let Perfect Cell play TF2 every again*

Love this! Would love to see another episode and Great Blue could even have some pre-made contraptions to place at player discretion!

TheWhat's edits: "Yeah, can I get a thing that gives me a slight advantage so that way I have a better chance of pulling a neat strategy?" Zenith's edits: "Yeah, can you make it that TheWhat isn't allowed to play the game anymore?"

I don't actually want to see this again with better rules I want to see it again with worse rules

This is awesome! You should do more of these

funny that some changes are "nono I must make them balanced" and also putting a teleport, a sentry and a rocket spammer is somehow ok

this was sick, really love the strategy of it all. curious to see what they would do differently a second time around now that they know more about hammer

@badasscrusader

Ай бұрын

Yeah a bit more refined too

PLEASE do this again I haven’t laughed this hard in MONTHS

My guy, this would be an amazing thing to keep going for colabs, I loved every seccond of this. Thanks for making this for us :>

This is a phenomenal idea. I'd love to see more stuff like this!

this is great, it be even better if they didn't know each other's edits before the next round

41:44 i just started losing it from this part forward just Zenith teleporting into TheWhatShow spawn and 42:43 the rain of rockets man im crying from laughter im dying also im disappointed that isnt in the thumbnail also the running gag of Zenith wanting to instantly kill TheWhat 52:46 he just jumps between stairs to stairs and im not allowed to instant kill are you whats even the point

I'm surprised "Make the floor lava" wasn't the first thing they tried.

Im old. Id thought most tf2 content ran its course. Glad to be proven wrong, this was hilariously fun to watch

"why can't I instant kill thewhat its no fair" -zenith for 90% of the video lol

@santiaguo21

2 ай бұрын

TheWhat can camp but Zenith cannot instantly crash TheWhat's game. Truly 1984

this is honestly a really fun format and i'd be down to see more of it

Zenith being like "INSTANT TRANSMISSION!" half the video

I would like to see this again, a lot of potential. Whether something silly like adding 30 Snakewater snakes that are cosmetic and do nothing, or turning the capture point into the Necro Smasher

This is a really great idea, I would love to see more!

I gotta say I really like these long form videos with the other content creators, I find them very entertaining!

R.I.P. Bad Luck Brian, died on big boingy

Zenith is actually a creative name, mr beast sounds like it was made by a 12 year old obsessed with call of duty

@lowbudgetgamer9411

Ай бұрын

Yeah but now when I think of the word zenith, I think of the weapon from Terraria

@sssmoovy6019

Ай бұрын

​@@lowbudgetgamer9411thats a skill issue on your part

These greatblue hour long custom map vids are treasure, each one is an absolute treat.

this format has fantastic potential depending on the edits, hope you do more

If you decide to do something like this again, you can use premade prefabs of previously made logic to quickly drop in hammer and give players a list of em to pick from.

OG title:TF2 but if you lose, you edit the map

@BullerPerson

2 ай бұрын

Thanks i was wondering what happend

I would LOVE to see something like this again, it was so fun to watch

this is THE most entertaining thing i've ever seen for TF2. I absolutely need more of this PLEASE

1v1 Turbine arena as the map changes. This is perfect seeing Zenith and TheWhat fighting as they continuously break the map more and more.

@cluelessdenizen2258

2 ай бұрын

Artificial intelligence ass comment

@toxic_shr00m

2 ай бұрын

was this ai generated

@leetifier

2 ай бұрын

ChatGPT ass comment tf

@cluelessdenizen2258

2 ай бұрын

@@toxic_shr00m dude I said the exact same thing but I think my comment was deleted

@toxic_shr00m

2 ай бұрын

@@cluelessdenizen2258 KZread tends to delete comments that have links or swear too much, so that might be why? If you didn't do either of those I have no idea.

Video title changed from "If you lose, you edit the map" to the first line of the script. Hmmmmmmm

This is a amazing idea, I hope you guys do more of this on some other maps.

53:14 "The dementia show" You cant send that kind of joke towards me and expect me to live

After watching this from start to finish, I'm happy TheWhat won.

@Tyranitar.

2 ай бұрын

Half of Zenith’s requests are just “Can I win for free?”

@LordCrate-du8zm

Ай бұрын

Yeah same. Zenith's a jackass.

New chucklenut ep when

Dude this idea slaps, i would love to see more of it! Maybe also get other friends to duel the reigning champ!

@noahhamilton5974

2 ай бұрын

UCH with guns is brilliant