I Don't Like Rumours|Vinyl Monday

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Welcome (or welcome back) to Vinyl Monday! I’m Abby and is my weekly series where I chat about classic albums in my collection that I love. Most of the time. Here are my thoughts on the record I just can’t get on board with: Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours (released 1977.) Subscribe for more Vinyl Monday and vintage fashion!
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Timestamps:
intro - 0:00
Rumours - 1:31
track listing/release - 13:40
my thoughts - 16:37
thanks for watching! - 32:48
Music:
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  • @abigaildevoe
    @abigaildevoe Жыл бұрын

    what classic album do you just not like? comment below!

  • @davidellis5141

    @davidellis5141

    Жыл бұрын

    The Wall by Pink Floyd

  • @luissegovia8205

    @luissegovia8205

    Жыл бұрын

    Any of Bruce spreengsten álbum

  • @georgemathie8123

    @georgemathie8123

    Жыл бұрын

    The Eagles hotel California no matter what I've tried just can't get into it

  • @kelistigerz9898

    @kelistigerz9898

    Жыл бұрын

    Floyd's Animals! Everyone loves it & I just don't get it.

  • @ianemery4355

    @ianemery4355

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I'm going to be controversial I am a minority but I do not like Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen!! I like Darkness on the edge of town album! I like Bruce Springsteen but I just don't like Born to run!! When I hear the title track I have to run!! Sorry for upsetting millions of people who have this album!!

  • @vangrod8510
    @vangrod8510 Жыл бұрын

    Christine is truly the unsung heroine of all... loved her from the first hearing, singing in the Morning Rain.

  • @archieleechjb

    @archieleechjb

    Жыл бұрын

    In a just world, "Why?," "Heroes Are Hard to Find," "Remember Me," and "Show Me a Smile" would have been Top 20 songs which would pop up on radio occasionally.

  • @bobstuckrath1805

    @bobstuckrath1805

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes!@@archieleechjb

  • @MauriceBoone-jm2xu

    @MauriceBoone-jm2xu

    11 ай бұрын

    Her voice is angelic.. "As Long As you Follow"

  • @chrismarzoli2170

    @chrismarzoli2170

    10 ай бұрын

    You said it! Spot on. She was the MVP.

  • @MundaSquire

    @MundaSquire

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@archieleechjbLoved her pre Buck/Nick's stuff. Spare me a little was a grateful tune.

  • @chaunceyphillips
    @chaunceyphillips Жыл бұрын

    When I was in high school, there was a girl who claimed she was dating Lindsay Buckingham. Many of us were sceptical until we saw a Ferrari pull up with Lindsay behind the wheel. He took off with the girl. There's a story you won't get anywhere else. Sleep tight.

  • @PaulBryant-cc8ox

    @PaulBryant-cc8ox

    4 ай бұрын

    Someone at my school claimed the same about Glenn Tillbrook from Squeeze, but he never pulled up in a Ferrari.

  • @BrendanJSmith

    @BrendanJSmith

    2 ай бұрын

    Lindsay Buckingham is many things. A groomer is not one of them.

  • @crichards1986
    @crichards1986 Жыл бұрын

    If the record was rawer, it would never have sold a gazillion copies. It's the production blend combined with the emotional heft that sent it off into the stratosphere. Of course, there are better records, more emotional records, grittier records, but few records that balance it all as well as Rumours. It's not perfect, but it strikes an emotional chord for many, unlike few records have ever done. There are strong feelings in the lyrics here, and the production makes it go down easy for the masses.

  • @philuribe7863

    @philuribe7863

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly this. Rumours was the album that us teenagers could play to our parents and they liked it. Usually this would be a kiss of death, of course, but Rumours got away with it.

  • @tgforty5
    @tgforty511 ай бұрын

    Here's a strange thing....even though I agree with everything you said, I actually like this album even more after hearing your review.

  • @BABYCHAOS26
    @BABYCHAOS26 Жыл бұрын

    I think Rumours is perfect in every way, it is what it is, couldn’t imagine it any other way.

  • @reverb508

    @reverb508

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here. Perfect album

  • @williamb.8059

    @williamb.8059

    Жыл бұрын

    Perfect album. I totally enjoyed this episode. You are such a great hostess. Thanks!

  • @kingofthesnakes2396
    @kingofthesnakes2396 Жыл бұрын

    I love every era of Fleetwood Mac. If i hadn't heard rumours, i never would have listened to their early stuff.

  • @tikaedits
    @tikaedits Жыл бұрын

    I love Rumours! When I discovered the album, I listened to The Chain probably 100 times 😄 But I don't see the problem with other people not liking it. We all have different tastes, which makes your channel that much more interesting!

  • @astronomical13
    @astronomical13 Жыл бұрын

    I like how you can talk in all caps but you’re not really screaming.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 Жыл бұрын

    In 1977 I was washing dishes in a restaurant on Maui. I slept in the restaurant as rent in Hawaii is insane. My boss would host visiting rockstars and often they would take up his offer to accommodate them. I met George Harrison. Half of the songs on Rumors owned the radiowaves. Fleetwood Mac (I owned a few of their earlier Peter Green albums back in the day) came to Maui to look for houses to buy and play a local concert. I snuck into the concert and left because besides the awesome rhythm section I couldn't stand watching Stevie Nick's performance - she's fine, I just don't like her performance, singing, dancing...Stevie, for a few weeks, would waft into the restaurant with her entourage of 5 or six folk. She always looked miserable, like she could barely hold an expression of indifference. I thought, this is the number one album on Earth and she's miserable. I made 2 bucks an hour and lived on leftovers and mangoes. John McVie (who I had seen in the Bluebreakers in 1969) would come in the late afternoon when there were few people about, sit in the long center table in the main dining room and he would nurse a drink for an hour, staring straight ahead, then he would leave. The employees like my music choices, I would keep the kitchen humming with Iggy Pop and Television and blues greats, all from my cassette collection.

  • @joepermenter7228

    @joepermenter7228

    11 ай бұрын

    Art courts misery, not to mention staying up all night all the time on cocaine.

  • @VallinSFAS
    @VallinSFAS Жыл бұрын

    And actually Silver Spring is one of my favourite Macsongs. I had a lovely time in that city in 1977, and I'm a constantly heartbroken witch.

  • @stevecowder4774
    @stevecowder4774 Жыл бұрын

    To a certain degree, I can understand the ridicule of the songs on this album being bludgeoned to death with airplay. But it’s really no different from hundreds of other classic, legendary albums out of the 70s. Tensions were obviously high between band members and they were having to depend on that Southern California “ Snowball “ scene in order to get by. However Abby, you’ve provided some deeper insights to this piece than what I already knew. This album may have been an overplayed soap opera, but all things considered, I can appreciate the valiant efforts put forth by FM in releasing one of the most treasured albums of all time. And yet I’m still a fan of the Peter Green era as well. Go figure 😆. As always Abby, an excellent review !!

  • @keithhanisek2465
    @keithhanisek2465 Жыл бұрын

    I love all the apologists who just "now" decided Rumours sucks. 😆. It isn't my favorite album in the discography but it's a classic album for a reason. Solid gold

  • @jeffkaufman9875

    @jeffkaufman9875

    Жыл бұрын

    @keith I believe these “apologists apologizing” are closely, incestuously-akin to those “players only love you when they’re playing” players shamefully shamelessly-courting the approval of their hostess!..

  • @Gearhart_Music
    @Gearhart_Music9 ай бұрын

    There's a saying that keeps coming back to me. "Don't shit where you eat" Your comment about "don't Fuck your bandmates" is very much along the same vein, if not more direct and to the point.

  • @ronaldiii9416
    @ronaldiii9416 Жыл бұрын

    I got this album as a birthday present in '77 or '78. I stayed with marijuana use and never went on to harder drugs, unlike what people were saying at the time. And I attribute that to this album, hard to believe.

  • @freelywheely
    @freelywheely Жыл бұрын

    Favorite Mac albums are definitely Bare Trees & Future Games. Danny Kirwan was incredible! Rip Danny

  • @syater

    @syater

    Жыл бұрын

    You said it !

  • @tuskedbeast

    @tuskedbeast

    Жыл бұрын

    My two favorites as well!

  • @cindyurban150

    @cindyurban150

    Жыл бұрын

    Both very beautiful,"Cerebral" albums.

  • @glennandadriansrocktalk

    @glennandadriansrocktalk

    Жыл бұрын

    exaclty mine too. agree on Danny.

  • @marktait2371

    @marktait2371

    11 ай бұрын

    freely 100.degess here today so delving into records repkaced the sleeve on bare trees

  • @KansasRocker
    @KansasRocker Жыл бұрын

    I like this album, but I appreciate your take on it. It's always refreshing to get a different perspective. Keep being your amazing self. You do such a great job with your content. Thank you!

  • @richierugs6544
    @richierugs6544 Жыл бұрын

    the video of Silver Spring is so awesome the way she sings --you'll never get away----the look in her eyes speaks voluminously

  • @abigaildevoe

    @abigaildevoe

    Жыл бұрын

    yes 1997 silver springs was incredible

  • @effdonahue6595
    @effdonahue6595 Жыл бұрын

    I heard a rumor you don’t like rumors 🤓

  • @TM10000
    @TM10000Ай бұрын

    An amazing song like Silver Springs cannot be put in a drawer. 'I know I could have loved you but you would not let me' is one of Stevie's greatest lines.

  • @starshiptrooper7670
    @starshiptrooper7670 Жыл бұрын

    Oh Abby, you may have ruffled some feathers on this one girl. I was 20 when this one hit. Every girl loved it, and their boyfriends better have the 8-track or cassette for the car. The radio wore it out!! I never had it, but I thought it was very good for what it was. I see why it sold. The album before, 'Fleetwood Mac' was more for me. It's the first with Stevie and Lindsey in the band. I love it. Watch your back, I've heard "Rumors" of the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club putting out "hits" on people who've done much less. Abigail, we've all grown too fond of you to lose you now. Don't go out unescorted at night, young lady! 🤠

  • @kwd-kwd
    @kwd-kwd Жыл бұрын

    those balls are older than this LP, he is wearing them in the "rattlesnake shake" video here on you tube. that video has Peter Green on vocals. Silver springs was played here in my area, so we knew it because Stevie got the Idea for the title when she saw a town in my state on the sign, which was "Silver Spring" MD.

  • @fernandoperdomomusic
    @fernandoperdomomusic Жыл бұрын

    "she's not like most girls" ...... This is why Im an Abby Lifer... thank you for being honest and thorough... keep on being you ...

  • @lindaeasley5606
    @lindaeasley5606 Жыл бұрын

    Despite all the problems with the production of this album ,it still wound up selling 40 million copies worldwide making it the 6th best selling album of the 1970s and 9th all time . Lindsey was a perfectionist and a damn good song writer. Their intent was stated up front to make it a pop album and they made it one of the greatest of all time. I know Fleetwood Mac was not everyone's cup of tea but they put out some classic hits that millions of people loved .That can't be denied

  • @KitKrash
    @KitKrash Жыл бұрын

    My favorites: 1. Then Played On (the best Fleetwood Mac album) followed by 2. Future Games 3. Bare Trees and 4. Kiln House…the rest I don’t care for. What is in common? Danny Kirwan

  • @abigaildevoe

    @abigaildevoe

    Жыл бұрын

    the danny kirwan era is my favorite too!

  • @CasperLCat
    @CasperLCat9 күн бұрын

    I admire you for your honest opinion on Rumours. I bought it upon release, loved it, and still enjoy it, like many ex-teenagers from the 70s. But music is no place for groupthink and dogmatic opinions. Keep on being an individual, as long as that’s still allowed.

  • @cradio52
    @cradio52 Жыл бұрын

    There are a great many highly overrated albums out there, but I passionately believe that “Rumours” is not one of them. It deserves every bit of praise that it has gotten over the years, but different strokes for different folks and all. However, might I suggest trying out the 2-LP 45 RPM cut that was released a few years back? It was repressed recently and it’s an absolute revelation. It truly makes you hear and appreciate the music and all of its wondrous layers in a completely new way. It’s full of the depth and richness that I’ve never heard the album have before prior to this particular remaster… I’m rarely completely blown away by a vinyl remaster/reissue but this one had my jaw on the floor. At around $50, it’s a bit pricey yes, but worth absolutely every penny. Though I’m not sure how willing you’d be to drop that kind of cash on an album you don’t care for just to try it out in a new way, haha. Maybe a friend will have a copy that you can give a spin some day.

  • @richardelliott8352

    @richardelliott8352

    Жыл бұрын

    I have an English early pressing on white vinyl that plays so well, it develops the intricacies of the performances to a dergee that cannot be ignored. , so although the songs are overplayed into tedium, after a few moments of play, the sonics of the album catches me up and I become engrossed in the performances, every time.

  • @paisleepunk

    @paisleepunk

    Ай бұрын

    that 45 rpm record was cut by kevin gray, so of course it sounds stellar! i would also recommend (and this _might_ be heresy, idk) the 2001 dvd-a remaster for it's slight rejig of the album in order to include "silver springs"

  • @gregorybrown3272
    @gregorybrown3272 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!! I can't wait to see more! It is important to keep the artform of Music Albums alive. I like how well you expressed your mixed feelings about this record, it is a thorny record to love. You just earned a new subscriber, and I am looking forward to seeing more of these deep dives!

  • @timnil
    @timnil Жыл бұрын

    This was great, Abby. Your analysis is spot on. Can’t to hear you take on Tusk with Buckingham’s further madness, the USC marching band and further alchemical stimulation. 😂

  • @ailurophile71
    @ailurophile71 Жыл бұрын

    Having first really listened to this album via the 5.1 surrond DVD-Audio some 20 years ago, what I heard was spellbinding. I'm not the type to dig into the lyrics until later. So while I'm not disregarding their importance, this album for me is first and foremost a frankly wondrous creation of melody and harmony and expert songwriting and musicianship. Whether that or the production then turns out to be in the best service of the "breakup album" emotional/lyrical content is subjective, for sure. Stevie described "Dreams" as an "open and hopeful" response to "Go Your Own Way," personally I always heard it as a sort of darkly beguiling but resigned "just-you-wait-and-see." I think depending on how you hold that song and her delivery up to the light, the production can be considered quite lovely. But maybe the band would have agreed with you about too pretty, restrained, and reserved because at first they found it too boring to include. It sounds like you might have a crummy pressing; here's how one person described Dreams on a good pressing, "Ideally the bass is very prominent on this track. It should be way up in the mix, loud, tight and note-like, with the guitar and kick drum clearly separated. It absolutely drives the song; the copies that got the bass right on this track really came to life." A.k.a., not thin. The best pressings are considered demo-your way-too-expensive-system-for-your-friends quality. Anyway, great video as always, brave; mad respect.

  • @ailurophile71

    @ailurophile71

    Жыл бұрын

    BTW it's clearly not apples-to-apples, but if anyone really wants to hear more of what's going on on this album, highly recommend seeking out a band-approved (I'm not sure about this spatial audio stuff) surround mix. The songs really open up and breathe, while enveloping. It's a "you have to come hear this" moment.

  • @paisleepunk

    @paisleepunk

    Ай бұрын

    yeah that disc is amazing, if perhaps a touch bright for some (not nearly as bright as some of the 80s vinyl cuts though!)

  • @CasperLCat
    @CasperLCat9 күн бұрын

    Lindsey’s prolific ability to grow hair is criminally underrated.

  • @c11p
    @c11p Жыл бұрын

    A Ghirlandaio reference??? Abby, I hope you have a long life with your channel. You are must-watch viewing every week, and you get better and better.

  • @abigaildevoe

    @abigaildevoe

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks! the ghirlandaio nod was bound to happen eventually haha

  • @PeterBondeVillain
    @PeterBondeVillain Жыл бұрын

    I love the format of including albums you don’t love! Good stuff

  • @InWalkedBud752
    @InWalkedBud7526 ай бұрын

    I'm obsessed with your kaleidoscope/austin powers transitions. You really nailed a great aesthetic with these

  • @andrews527
    @andrews5272 күн бұрын

    All the excess on Rumours lead to the total artistic collapse of Tusk.

  • @mattbarr7050
    @mattbarr7050 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all you do; great job on this one!

  • @michaelshiflett4835
    @michaelshiflett4835 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the silver spoon reference was about the subject being born into wealth? It just hit me after all these years.

  • @mrazteacher
    @mrazteacher Жыл бұрын

    Being a young person you’re able to be objective. I find that most of my favorite albums from the 70s fall into 2 categories. Albums that are genuinely amazing and albums that are amazing because I associate them with fond memories.

  • @johndrx165
    @johndrx165 Жыл бұрын

    I saw them live during this time and they were a great live band!

  • @tuskedbeast
    @tuskedbeast Жыл бұрын

    Very cerebral review, and your perspective, 46 years after it was released, is fascinating. I was a SoCal teenager when this LP hit, and the place this music lived was on FM radio. It's produced to sound good in a car or at the beach, not to be listened to too critically, and to sell gazillions. On those terms it was a total success. So it's interesting to hear how this comes off to a smart young listener in 2023.

  • @dominikdaigneault7095
    @dominikdaigneault709511 ай бұрын

    Very interesting and thought-provoking perspective, thank you for that! It is fascinating how Rumors has consistently been widespread over so many decades and there is something about the artists' emotion and talent that will undoubtedly keep the album beloved by many. Personally, I love the album but also agree with your perspective and it has made me see the album in a new way, I need to listen to the alternate version to compare the mixing/feel of the work.

  • @nordland2235
    @nordland2235 Жыл бұрын

    Their fan base felt let down when they changed from a blues rock band to a pop rock band.

  • @BrendanJSmith

    @BrendanJSmith

    Жыл бұрын

    Pre-1975 Fleetwood Mac and post-1975 Fleetwood Mac are basically two different bands.

  • @donleblanc2669

    @donleblanc2669

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrendanJSmith The Peter Green original band was completely stellar in every way ..... The Rumours " POPPY " version MAKES ME WANNA VOMIT !!!!

  • @fallspeed

    @fallspeed

    Жыл бұрын

    That happened years before Buckingham & Nicks joined.

  • @stevehoran5595

    @stevehoran5595

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrendanJSmith The lineup was in close to perpetual change before 1975. It was a gradual change from blues to pop and that started while Peter was still in the band.

  • @konowd

    @konowd

    Жыл бұрын

    Tom Ross, a major music agent at CAA, came up with the idea to put Buckingham Nicks into Fleetwood Mac and the rest is history

  • @michaelwilson2340
    @michaelwilson2340 Жыл бұрын

    They were an example of why the Ramones were needed.

  • @adamfindlay7091

    @adamfindlay7091

    3 ай бұрын

    The Peter Green Mac is earthy blues and pure stripped down blues not unlike the bowery boys' ultimatum 53&3rd.

  • @BrendanJSmith

    @BrendanJSmith

    2 ай бұрын

    No, they really weren't. The late '70s punk movement was more an antithesis to indulgent prog rock, arena rock, and disco.

  • @namesameasu
    @namesameasu Жыл бұрын

    1978 was the year the 60s were officially dead and the success of Rumours being officially categorized as "soft rock" helped herald in that tragedy. All it needed was some guitar feedback somewhere. Rock and roll could've been saved!

  • @creeder44
    @creeder44 Жыл бұрын

    Love your video more than the record. This came out when I was just starting to work my way through college by doing radio airshifts at night, so I heard all the singles a million times. I thought they were okay; good pop songs, but I never had any strong feelings about them one way or the other. I was more into Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson at the time. I do recall that when "Tusk" came out, my partner George and I were doing a college morning show. The PD got the advance single, rushed in and told us to play it. George asked, "Have you listened to it?" He said no. George said, "I'm not playing a record that nobody's even heard yet. What if it stinks?" The PD insisted that we had to play it just because it was Fleetwood Mac's followup to "Rumours," but George didn't care. It was the first thing played after our show ended. It eventually stalled out at #8 on the charts so I think his refusal to let bands coast on past successes was correct. PS - In that photo of Lindsay where you said he's your type, he looks a bit like Cliff Campbell from the group Fair To Midland, who is my cousin.

  • @ralphbolton4865
    @ralphbolton4865 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Abigail, We got to see Stevie in concert last year, and the version of Gold Dust Woman was amazing the way the band stretched out. What a backing band! I am looking forward to the live Rumours record. Always look forward to your videos, thanks!

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison84786 ай бұрын

    Some people say they like analog tape because of its "warmer" sound. Well, I guess if you play it enough, it gets to be a lot like a down comforter. Or maybe oatmeal with brown sugar.

  • @7bestthings
    @7bestthings Жыл бұрын

    A great and very informative review, I learned a lot about the making of Rumours. I love Rumours because it is so polished, but I did not realize just how far they went in perfecting the sound of this album. Once again, Patty Boyd, the muse of all great albums, is somehow connected to the making of this album. Thanks for all your great work!

  • @ericfultz9429
    @ericfultz9429 Жыл бұрын

    well done Abigail, good job of story telling and i like your analysis of the record, maybe what you said about the song being overwhelmed by the production sums it up well. cheers

  • @rickstahl6839
    @rickstahl6839 Жыл бұрын

    I thought it would have been funny if she said "my personal favorites are none of these songs I hate this album."

  • @DivebombDemon
    @DivebombDemon Жыл бұрын

    I just wanna say that I am a big fan of Fantano moments.

  • @pierangelomusumeci2556
    @pierangelomusumeci2556 Жыл бұрын

    this girl i've been dating for a few months knows i collect records andd she gifted me rumours by fleetwood mac i'm grateful of course but i didn't have the courage to tell her i've never got the rumours hype and i think it's really meh, thanks abby for making me feel seen

  • @jmfloyd23
    @jmfloyd23 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Abby! You went in-depth on every track. I was in 5th grade when Rumors came out. I can remember it as yesterday coming home with the dreams 45rpm single and playing it several times. The recording production of you make loving fun is really good.

  • @abigaildevoe

    @abigaildevoe

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks! i try my best to at least address every track, since it's a single LP i can go in depth

  • @malcolmsmith5271
    @malcolmsmith5271 Жыл бұрын

    I’m fairly ambivalent about Rumours, it’s an album I have to be in the mood to listen to. I can certainly understand why it has achieved classic status. The songs are, in the main okay which paint a picture of the LA/West Coast scene at the time, and break ups always seem to get the creative juices flowing. If I recall correctly, it was a slow burner here in the UK and only in later years was its cultural relevance taken on board…but I might be mistaken about that as it was a long time ago. Congratulations, another really cool deep dive.

  • @Nick-qf7vt
    @Nick-qf7vt8 ай бұрын

    Oh thank God someone who feels the same way I do about the album. This is pop music for cokeheads still stuck in the late 70s. Makes me so thankful that punk rock came along to kick it in the ass.

  • @polycube868

    @polycube868

    6 ай бұрын

    At least it ain't disco!

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu8 ай бұрын

    I had to back into Fleetwood Mac. They were so big in the 70s that you were almost required to get their albums just because they were so big. And I didn't really start buying albums until around '80 or 81 in my high school years. I loved Stevie's first solo album, and then went back and dug into the Fleetwood Mac albums. It's only much more recently that I started digging into the earlier pre-Buckingham Nicks albums. And the Buckingham Nicks album itself, before they joined Fleetwood Mac. I really like the 70-74 period, because you can clearly see a band in in development, and going through changes. You can see, album by album, Christine coming into her own as a songwriter, and feel the pain and regret that they didn't have more success with Bob Welch in the band.

  • @williamkinsey8174
    @williamkinsey81749 ай бұрын

    All people remember is the final album They have absolutely no idea how stressful the whole process can be Particularly if you're brilliant guitar solo gets erased!🤯😭 And this happened all the time That irreplaceable moment was lost to carelessness in the studio.

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 Жыл бұрын

    My parents used to crank this on the Pinto when we headed to Malibu to hang out with Julie Andrews and Blake Edwards. I've known a lot of interesting people.

  • @LesleyHunter-ic9to
    @LesleyHunter-ic9to Жыл бұрын

    You did a fantastic job featuring Rumors! I first heard Rumors when I was around 3 years old remembering hearing The Chain and You Make Loving Fun with my mom. I have been a Fleetwood Mac fan and collector ever since. Thank You.

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black7 ай бұрын

    Also, I enjoy how much of a clever person you are with these lyrical insights. I think you’re usually very much dead on.

  • @glennandadriansrocktalk
    @glennandadriansrocktalk Жыл бұрын

    Yay contrary views! I've always considered this to be a covertly semi-psychedelic album. I think that keyboard at the top of "Don't Stop" that sounds stringy is the ARP String Ensemble - found in lots of 1970s-80s recordings such as Elton's Someone Saved My Life Tonight or Zebra: Who's Behind The Door. You just showed us that you can do a great overview even for albums you don't like. Just think of that door swinging wide open! :) Great job. - G

  • @BillabongJim
    @BillabongJim Жыл бұрын

    I am trying to listen to more music than just the beatles, bob dlyan, and pink floyd. So from now on i will be listening to whatever album is covered weekly.

  • @geodog6854
    @geodog685411 ай бұрын

    As a high-schooler in the late 70s, Rumors was inescapable. It was everywhere on the radio, so I didn't bother buying the album until much later. A local DJ, here in Austin, would play "Silver Spring" on the radio now and then and I thought it was amazing. When they came out with the boxed set, it mystified me why it wasn't included. Now I know why!

  • @mjproebstle
    @mjproebstle2 ай бұрын

    I get it - you like what you like. Certain groups just have a collective pull be it nostalgia, marketing/promotion (Dreams has long since been worn out being still over-played yet to this day ad nausium on the radio), and touring frequency. I did see them live a few years back with the full group including Christine. They were flawless. Your comments regarding Lindsay Buckingham being a d*ckhead are probably warranted, however I will say that seeing him live gave me an appreciation of his contribution to the band, his incredible talent and musical flexibility. Talent of that level can unfortunately aspire to an other-than-worldly opinion of themselves. I’ve heard this is also true of Joe Walsh, whom I’ve also seen live, who is also an amazing talent and incredibly gifted, very demanding and settles for nothing but perfection. Also Rogers Waters as you so eloquently pointed out in your review of The Wall album. Awesome channel! Cheers!

  • @PhilBaird1
    @PhilBaird111 ай бұрын

    Thanks Abby. Having just watched your video I think you're too easy on it. It's nowhere near as emotionally raw, truthful and real as Blue or Blood On The Tracks. Any magic it had was ironed out and mostly lost in the studio. There's a reason that Christine's 'Songbird' is the best track on the album. Subscribed and a thumbs up.

  • @thatguy7410
    @thatguy7410 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, You Make Loving Fun is about Dennis Wilson. He and Christine were dating at the time, and that opened up the chance for Lindsay Buckingham getting his hands on some Smile tapes that inspired the songs on Tusk

  • @randyoleson

    @randyoleson

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, it was inspired by an affair Christine McVie had with the band's lighting director, Curry Grant.

  • @bfish89ryuhayabusa
    @bfish89ryuhayabusa Жыл бұрын

    I prefer the earlier versions of the band. Then Play On is a psych/blues/folk/rock masterpiece, Kiln House is a nice whirl of 50s rock and early 70s songwriting, Future Games is a gorgeous relaxing drift through a summer day. Their early singles sometimes get overlooked for not being on albums, Bare Trees is awesome for melancholic classic rock, and Mystery to Me is great for more a polished sound. It's incredible how this band transformed from album to album, and I think too many people disregard the iterations of the band that aren't like Rumours.

  • @terencestephenmoss2159
    @terencestephenmoss2159 Жыл бұрын

    Love the album 🎉 Your knowledge about the in's and out's of the events backstage, onstage and band politics are very impressive 🎉

  • @venomdust1
    @venomdust1 Жыл бұрын

    Got to admit even though I’m more of a metal head i thought it was a perfect album . On par with Carol King Tapestry,. So saw the description and instantly got ready to defend but in a moment of clarity realized i just might learn something And I did . Dropped some knowledge on your viewers today .🤘

  • @Yakaru1

    @Yakaru1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @ChromeDestiny
    @ChromeDestiny Жыл бұрын

    Whether it's Peter Green era Mac or Buckingham Nicks era I like my Mac in small doses. The greatest hits albums for both eras are my go tos.

  • @jasonarsenault3791
    @jasonarsenault3791 Жыл бұрын

    You explained your point very well Abigail. I was Leary to hear someone sh*t on this 😂… but I totally get your point. Basically, it’s just not gritty enough to reflect the time the band was having outside the studio. Interesting take. Appreciate it. Also. Love your take on gold dust woman. It’s my fav track.

  • @johncollier9280
    @johncollier9280 Жыл бұрын

    I've been a Fleetwood Mac fan throughout all the evolutions. For a rare glimpse into what eventually became Rumours I recommend a live album from 1975, a radio broadcast recorded in Passaic, NJ shortly after the Fleetwood Mac (with Buckingham/Nicks) album was released but before anyone knew if it would take off called Life Becomes A Landslide. They included Station Man 'n Hypnotized in the playlist as well as tracks from the recent album. Here's the "new" Fleetwood Mac givin' an excellent performance but unsure what the future would hold. Great stuff!

  • @derekduncan-tm2yj
    @derekduncan-tm2yj Жыл бұрын

    I do have to say I am fond of Rumors , maybe it’s sentimental as it was my introduction, but all the points you have I totally agree with, and I am more of a fan of Tusk. I do have to say last year I bought the 45rpm double edition of Rumors and it does sound so much better than any other edition I have heard, including the original pressing, it fixes a lot of that thin sound you speak of.

  • @wvbeatlefan
    @wvbeatlefan Жыл бұрын

    Excellent review as always. Rumors came out when I was10 but I didn't buy it until a couple years later. Since then it's been in my top 10 (ok, maybe 20). I still love it but you definitely opened my eyes to some of its flaws.

  • @david-vp4ku
    @david-vp4ku11 ай бұрын

    I find the "We're cheesy pop stars" statement of the album to be a moment of sarcasm from the Fleetwoods in view of the relationship problems. I dislike Parallel Lines for it's smoothery. Plastic Letters is my favourite Blondie.

  • @stereo999
    @stereo999 Жыл бұрын

    If you grew up in the70s you heard DREAMS on the radio so many times that you were totally sick of all things Fleetwood Mac by the end of the decade, but like all classics, it has endured over the years. 1977 was the time of Steely Dan AJA and it became a contest to make the smoothest and slickest mainstream rock albums possible in the music industry (and punk was emerging to fight against this and for music fans it seemed like a war and we had to choose a side). Thanks for another video that possessed me to dig through my records to see if I had everything you were talking about. I looked everywhere for my crusty CD of Rumours to see if it had Silver Springs (it didn't - but turns out I do have the 45) cheers

  • @EmmanuelPehau
    @EmmanuelPehau Жыл бұрын

    I too prefer the live versions of the songs. It took me a while to fully embrace Rulers. The "tuxedo and limousine" production certainly functioned as a barrier for me. But I kept coming back to the album, mainly because of Christine McVie's out-of-this-world voice and her affirmative and almost peerless songwriting. (With the years, I've learned to put her right up with the best pop songwriters of that era, right on the same tier as Paul McCartney and the Bernie Taupin / Elton John combo, which were in actuality her neighbors on the charts.) And after a while I git used to the production and even get feelings of nostalgia from it since it is so typical of the late seventies / early eighties, which were the years of my early childhood. As always, it was a pleasure to get through your delicatefully distilled and carfully expressed feelings about the album. Thanks.

  • @jasonyoung5628
    @jasonyoung5628 Жыл бұрын

    I've heard that Christine McVie wrote Songbird in like 15 minutes. I dont know if that's true, but i can believe it. Pianists are generally great writers, and her talent is undeniable.

  • @jmckenzie962
    @jmckenzie962 Жыл бұрын

    When I first saw the title I immediately sang it in my head to the tune of "I Don't Like Mondays" lmao. Great video, nice to finally see someone else who doesn't really get all the hype around this album.

  • @daveeckels6479
    @daveeckels6479 Жыл бұрын

    Had to throw it on as a protest listen to that nonsense!! 😂😂 Just messin with ya! Keep it up, dig listening to your mondays!!

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Жыл бұрын

    Rumours does future the awesome track ..The Chain ⛓️ ..Love The Bass 🔊

  • @paullynn473
    @paullynn473 Жыл бұрын

    1977 many young males were saying thank god for Punk Rock.

  • @ChromeDestiny

    @ChromeDestiny

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember Henry Rollins saying he had a girlfriend briefly in the late 70's who "Took Rumors and Tusk really seriously" and was scared of his Ramones and Devo albums.

  • @CzKiefer
    @CzKiefer4 күн бұрын

    You're incorrect about Lindsey forbidding her from using it, it was Mick Fleetwood that wouldn't let her put it onto her "Timespace" album, because it was already planned to be released on Fleetwood Mac's "25 Years: The Chain" box set.

  • @philowens7680
    @philowens7680 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with your view of the production choices, but I'm presuming that was deliberate sweetening, intended to sell more records. I also agree with your opinion on Christine McVie. I used to play guitar and bass (and vocals) in a covers band in the late seventies. "Don't Stop" was one of my favorites. We played it after our cover of Eagles "Already Gone". I still love the album. I clearly remember the night I first heard it! Thanks for the review. I appreciate your analysis/interpretation of lyrics,

  • @butterflyparalyzed
    @butterflyparalyzed Жыл бұрын

    this is the first time i've listened to an album specifically for vinyl monday

  • @johnw706
    @johnw706 Жыл бұрын

    A very interesting video I have always preferred Fleetwood Mac”s “ White album” , to Rumours . There’s less of a fatigue factor when listening to it , plus it has Rhiannon , Landslide , World Turning , and Crystal . You are correct when you said that the songs on Rumours were better live . I saw them live in Toronto , in the summer of 1977 , and Rumours’ songs were great live ( as were the white album’s ) . Cheers !

  • @mikeknowles5848
    @mikeknowles5848 Жыл бұрын

    I think you've nailed the shortcomings of this record.

  • @neil6958
    @neil69588 ай бұрын

    You do really great album reviews!

  • @Emet.V
    @Emet.V9 ай бұрын

    I think live performances of the songs are actually better than the record . The chain on the dance for example is killer always brings chills for me when it does that bass break down into a unhinged Lindsey Buckingham screaming his ass off and playing the guitar like a mad man 22:29

  • @abigaildevoe

    @abigaildevoe

    9 ай бұрын

    maybe my problem with rumours centers around lindsey being a little too "hinged" - i prefer tusk in part because it's total coked-out madness from him

  • @Emet.V

    @Emet.V

    9 ай бұрын

    @@abigaildevoe He looks like a mad scientist in the tusk recording sessions.

  • @djinnmagik2003
    @djinnmagik2003 Жыл бұрын

    I love Fleetwood Mac's "Rumors" album 😁💖🎶 Magik from beginning to end

  • @peterjetnikoff
    @peterjetnikoff Жыл бұрын

    My memory of this record is fused with the previous one. Back in '76 there was a live clip of the band doing Rhiannon which had this brilliant frenzied outro with Nicks screaming her lungs out. It got my attention but I didn't get the LP. Then in what seems about two minutes later this one came out. My brother and I were in adjacent rooms which, in form with old North Queensland standards featured walls that stopped short of the ceiling to enhance airflow. So, when Stephen, whose musical tastes were entirely determined by what other kids at school preferred, got a friend to tape both he listened to the cassette in a portable from the '60s with a scratchy speaker. And then he listened to it more. And more. When he wasn't listening to that he was waking me up with short wave radio casts of the cricket when Australia was playing in England (in U.K. time, of course). He was more violent than I was so I really had to let him and those who are allowed do. And he did. I was long on the path with punk by then so this was already sounding like old people's music to me (see also Eagles, Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan and I'm already exhausted from writing those names) so hearing Rumors like this was like witnessing the Hindenberg disaster every night until even Stephen got sick of it. Later, mixing with other musos who had taken the record up as a kind of indy rock template (no, they wouldn't be informed), I gave it another listen. Gave it a few minutes before visions of The Hindenberg returned in massive fiery torment. So, I dislike it for different reasons. Great video though. For which, thanks.

  • @MrModelworx
    @MrModelworx Жыл бұрын

    I have to agree Abbi, I like the songs, I hate the lack of cohesiveness and the "rumours" package. Subjective because it's one of the most popular albums of the 70s. Just good to hear from you what I've been thinking for years. Excellent review.

  • @jonvought700
    @jonvought70011 ай бұрын

    I got my copy of Rumours when it was the new Fleetwood Mac album. As I recall, it was slightly more expensive than other albums. The record company figured people would pay for this one. Besides, as you say, the cover is beautiful. Still a terrific value. At least nearly as good as the previous LP, I loved it at the time as I loved the previous one, and Rumours worked effectively as sides three and four of that album, for me. I don't think I ever loved Rumours quite as much as the first LP with this line-up, but it definitely came close. I love these two albums to this day. Gee, damaged tapes? I didn't know that. Pretty sonically impressive end result, considering. Never again would the band quite measure up (for me). Hey, me too, I love Christine. Enjoyed your thoughts and observations. Hey, y'know what? I don't think you dislike this album all THAT much! :) Y'know what else? I think you're brilliant.

  • @emdiar6588
    @emdiar658810 күн бұрын

    Couldn't agree more. It has its moments but all in all, this album leaves me cold.

  • @llamasarus1
    @llamasarus12 ай бұрын

    I don't love everything on Rumours but I think Second Hand News and I Don't Want To Know are exceptional tracks on it. If I heard the other songs from it on the radio I'd probably change the channel out of indifference.

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 Жыл бұрын

    Stevie Nicks is a self-involved drama queen.

  • @jeffkaufman9875

    @jeffkaufman9875

    Жыл бұрын

    @j Yes, absolutely, and a very talented one…

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite Fleetwood Mac track is Hypnotized with vocals by the late Bob Welch from Mystery To Me. Smooth Groove ☕️

  • @abigaildevoe

    @abigaildevoe

    Жыл бұрын

    emerald eyes is one of my favorite FM tunes!

  • @davidellis5141

    @davidellis5141

    Жыл бұрын

    @abigaildevoe Another standout on that album. Glad Bob had solo success & Stevie & Mick frequently would turn up at his live shows & do a few tracks with him .

  • @freelywheely

    @freelywheely

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda shitty Bob Welch wasn’t included in Fleetwood Mac’s Hall of Fame induction.

  • @davidellis5141

    @davidellis5141

    Жыл бұрын

    @freelywheely R&R HOF declared the " Welch " Era not HOF eligible but Peter Green Era eligible. Band should have used their clout to rectify that nonsense.

  • @NoOne-sn2si

    @NoOne-sn2si

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@davidellis5141 This is the same organization that gave Jethro Tull "heavy metal album of the year" award a while back... Coked out Morons, the whole lot of them...

  • @archieleechjb
    @archieleechjb Жыл бұрын

    @abigaildevoe Don't let the album's reputation lead you away from the real heart of the band. They were stone romantics, always wanting more from love and life. The bitterness that sometimes washed over them was just the result of disappointment, the sorrow that comes from loving too hard, giving too much, always wanting more. Clapton felt that way once, supposedly, and came out with Layla (it was once my favorite album). But you know how much BS was caught up in Layla, and Clapton went on to be the most anal-retentive of guitar gods. Fleetwood Mac have carried their blazing torches for years - like I said above, you want raw emotion, turn to Say You Will. But Rumours was buoyed by its hopefulness, the feeling that there was good love, and good sex, somewhere around the corner.

  • @konowd
    @konowd Жыл бұрын

    Everyone’s entitled to their opinions and bad reviews of albums can be really fun to write and read.

  • @brennensbootlegs1968
    @brennensbootlegs1968 Жыл бұрын

    I love the early Peter Green Fleetwood Mac, but I have heard Fleetwood Mac too many times. I can't really even listen to later Fleetwood Mac. Listen to the 1968 Fleetwood if you haven't.