Even as the season is a dumpster fire, Pete Carroll was still calm, even toned, and direct. I can see why his teams have been so good. He's a good coach, BUT demeanor in tough times says a lot.

Is there anyone else out there whose first thought when Rich says "They (The Jets) choose two times in the top five right now" was that it gives the Jets the chance to screw up two draft picks at the same time?

@psmith2403

2 жыл бұрын

As a Jets fan, yes.

@Wild_D

2 жыл бұрын

As a Seahawks fan, yes.

@psmith2403

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnpatrick6038 You think that's bad, just look at how many Quarterbacks they've had in the past 20 years.

Paid a mint for a safety. Not a good choice.

@DS00999

2 жыл бұрын

A safety who is best when playing linebacker

At some point. A coach just "loses it" he loses his confidence, his coaches, his players. Knoll, Gibbs, Parcells, Johnson. It happens to them all. I'm afraid Pete might be at that point.

@dodu8281

2 жыл бұрын

not sure about bill belicheck tho aha

@manolorivera156

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot bill belichick🤣

@glennschlegel7160

2 жыл бұрын

@@manolorivera156 Hahaha exception 🤣 to the rule.....so far

@glennschlegel7160

2 жыл бұрын

@@dodu8281 Hoodie hasn't reached that point yet 😂

@grahamsmith2022

2 жыл бұрын

@@glennschlegel7160 looking at last season though it looked like Brady had been the brains of the outfit and Bellichick was a spent force.😂

I've pretty much followed the Seahawks for over a decade having lived in the region for a long time. I think this is the first time I've seen Carroll that flustered and baffled. It's possible that after all this time, his message is failing to get through. Maybe he's not adapted to the current NFL. I don't think he forgot how to coach, but maybe it's just that point where the team needs to make massive changes and start a new era.

@brandonb.5304

2 жыл бұрын

Carroll is a pretty poor in game strategist. He has a game plan and pretty much refuses to adjust if it isn't working. In fact, he pretty much refuses to adjust during an entire season. He thinks his offense and defense should play one way and even if it isn't working, he won't change the way they play. Time for him to go. Bring in a fresh perspective, someone who can see the situation with clarity and isn't blinded by his own loyalty to his brand of football.

@Nate-kd5yf

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonb.5304 And by brand of football you mean 1960’s smash mouth, defensive-fetishized, run the ball 50 times a game despite having a generational signal-caller 😂

@rabbruce8232

2 жыл бұрын

Yes well said I feel the same aswel sad but we have to start again Cmon the Hawks get it sorted !!

@michaelm.1947

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nate-kd5yf "...run the ball 50 times a game" The other day, they ran the ball 11 times. And did so seemingly not so bad. When that generational signal caller isn't getting the job done (overthrows, underthrows, ignoring the short, middle passes), then you need a strong running game. I'm not sure what the solution is, but RW has been off since the middle of last season. He needs to get his head back in the game.

@tmorelli1982

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelm.1947 I agree, but he's not ignoring the short and intermediate throws, he literally can't see over the line. Early in his career he was getting outside of the pocket, he's not doing that now. All teams are doing is playing cover 2 and taking away the deep balls forcing him into the short throws that he can't see to make

Classy move coming back out to answer more questions,

@HardCold-Alquan

2 жыл бұрын

Was it classy to leave?

they have no draft picks... and the Jets are going to get a top 5 pick from the Seahawks (Yikes) the bonus for having a crappy season is a high draft pick and they already gave it away

people making suuch a big deal about 1 draft pick lmao, like 1 1st round pick is gonna save any franchise

He's done !!! When a coach throws his hands up saying " I don't know " , it's finished !!!

This man sure made my life a while lots better since he came to Seattle as I'm sure many will agree he's the best coach in the Seahawks history. Thanks Pete. No matter how this season ends, you'll always be our GOAT🙏😇♥️

It's a very difficult situation. I have been watching the Hawks for 25 years and I can tell you without any hesitation, I would not want to take my chances else where. This isn't just because he helped bring significance to this franchise and I am being biased, ( well maybe) but he is one of the best to do it. Still is. Most NFL coaches who leave after this much success is really just don't have it anymore because there want just isn't there. Pete you can tell his fire for football is still hot. The only reason this makes headlines is because of the success. 2 losing seasons.thats it! Most of these franchises have had horrible seasons. Multiple losing seasons for the last decade. Perspective is important in this decision. But it gets even more when there really is no one in charge. The late Paul Allen is gone leaving a lot in disarray. I truly feel the heart beat of any successful business needs a hungry owner.

@johnbrowntheprophet

2 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone who has the proper perspective. Well said. Thank you. 👏🏻👍🏻

@robertdenton6936

2 жыл бұрын

@Jack Tripper 100% These newer fans have no concept of what bad football looks like.

Reminds me the situation McCarthy was in. Time to let him go and rebuild through the draft.

@ID0XX

2 жыл бұрын

What draft Hawks have no picks

@Nate-kd5yf

2 жыл бұрын

@@ID0XX Obviously not instantaneously 🙄

@deanbritton4696

2 жыл бұрын

Long road ahead

@klohr311

2 жыл бұрын

@@ID0XX idk maybe trade down and pick up extra picks.

As a Seahawk fan, I appreciate how you delivered this message. As you and Pete said, this is uncharted waters for the Hawks and for us as fans. News today takes every advantage to kick 'em while they are down. Again, I appreciate the empathy in how you delivered the message. Thanks!

@wesleyjamesdurant89

2 жыл бұрын

How is it 'uncharted'??? Seattle was a grease fire for decades man... Until u drafted Russell Wilson, then all of the sudden Pete Carroll is a sure fire HOF etc etc even with a 1985 style of offense etc etc... U guys are just lucky that 12’s play style of running around saves ur 🥓🥓🥓

@rastiga9196

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Cardinals fanbase two years ago but not as bad except for draft picks, yikes.

Hawks haven’t made any serious adjustments to the lackluster o-line. We have a mobile quarterback who barely has any time to react after the snap. We also need solid corners and safety’s. Good offensive talent is easy to find. Defense is the sweet science.

Well, it was a good run. Pete is a HOF for sure, consider what he did in college as well. In the end though, everyone's time comes. The tricky part is Pete will have to retire as he just signed a 5 year deal and the owner is not very active, not really even sure Jody Allen likes football as she inherited the team from Paul. It is time for a change though, we have had the same season since 2015. Russ is likely going to get traded to fuel the rebuild too, not that I want it, but he isn't going to stick around for a rebuild.

@georgewashington1106

2 жыл бұрын

I must have missed the part where they put you in the NFL Hall of Fame for what you did in college

@tommyeden7896

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgewashington1106 see Jimmy Johnson. They do consider it, just like they consider what you do off the field. It's not all just about stats.

When the HC says he's running out of solutions he should step down or be fired - period. John Schneider can leave too, hasnt had a good draft in years, the current roster is an unbalanced mess and he traded possible future cornerstones for Jamal Adams who's an overrated loudmouth

Funny thing is I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they made a run at the 7 seed with that schedule. 9-8 might get you in this year and it always seems like Russ can pull things out when the chips are down and they’re SERIOUSLY down right now.

@eugenedenbrook322

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible. Also just kicks the can down the road. They need mucho help, Russ' prime is slipping away (and he's not playing well, since about Nov. last year), and have no draft capital.

@Samuel-ru1jb

2 жыл бұрын

@@eugenedenbrook322 Russ is just injured right now it’s his second game back I promise you he’s gonna get better vs Washington I promise you💪

@Samuel-ru1jb

2 жыл бұрын

Believe

@eugenedenbrook322

2 жыл бұрын

@@Samuel-ru1jb Well, him getting better doesn't fix everything that's wrong. Seattle isn't good enough even when he's healthy. Russ at his best can't get Seattle past the division round. He's great, but he also sometimes has shaky games when it matters most. That's when he needs his teammates to step up, but since Beast Mode and LOB left, that hasn't happened. They need an overhaul. Does Russ stick around to wait through that?

@Samuel-ru1jb

2 жыл бұрын

@@eugenedenbrook322 this is a team sport Russ can’t do everything

"Cookin' ?!? They don't know know where the kitchen is!" Brilliant metaphor!!!

This is what happens when you pay your QB a ridiculous amount of money each year

@michaelm.1947

2 жыл бұрын

It is a problem, but it's not just a Seattle problem. Green Bay seems to be paying their QB a lot, but it's not reflected in their record. I agree it's not ideal, but it's also not a one-issue fix.

@TobinPE

2 жыл бұрын

Russ ain’t ARod

Turn your volume up.

Us fans are hurting as is our team. Thank you for you quiet calm comments. This to shall pass. 💚💙💚💙

these records are getting ridiculous, how many times 4 games under 500 to prove a point. what about 3 games or 5 games under.

Hopefully Pete will get it together. I'm a die hard Eagles fan, but grew up in Washington around a family of Seahawks fans so they're my second team. The good news is, the fan base is loyal and remember how bad things were in the past (except Holmgren). Pete deserves patience. Now if Wilson ends up leaving, then I'd start to worry.

@flaviuscharlestango4098

2 жыл бұрын

I am a diehard SEAHWKS fan who grew up in philly!!! THE 12'S ARE THE BEST FANS IN THE WOLRD!!!

@christianalexander579

2 жыл бұрын

Nah your a bandwagon

@Helthurian

2 жыл бұрын

@@christianalexander579 Literally have been a diehard Eagles fan since I started watching football when I was 12, even had my childhood room painted midnight green, but go off.

Seahawks haven't been the same since the call to not give BeastMode the ball in the red zone in superbowl 15.

I wonder if Russel Wilson is throwing games to help get rid of Pete Carroll?

@Mr.alwaysmakingmoves

2 жыл бұрын

I think Russ dislikes when his skills are questioned and I believe he doesn’t like losing Lol but mannnn 🤔that’s a good point and that’s something I haven’t even considered

@salamipitza

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Russ using Rodgers tactics

@ANDYJNBA

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not built like that

Sometimes the end is not in our plans... But the end is always part of the plan.

The biggest issue with this team is Carroll. He's stubborn and conservative in a NFL world where teams are being more aggressive and open. He's gotta change and do some different things.

@spaceghost8995

2 жыл бұрын

What? Wilson throws deep balls ALL THE TIME!

@rastiga9196

2 жыл бұрын

@@spaceghost8995 When they are behind by 20 LMFAO

If we stick to the run like 22 times including 3 from Russ we will win. Also bag the up tempo offense and give our defense time to rest. Up tempo to me means snapping the ball while their not ready, have two calls made and go if we are behind, otherwise run the play clock down. It has to be right now nobody likes it. Until we prove we can play a 2 minute offense run it well mix in play action and force a one high safety . My 2 cents

@eugenedenbrook322

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense to me.

@arpnar1243

2 жыл бұрын

If we didn't abandon the run every single game and had some sorta tempo we would have a much better record than this

@chrissnape9537

2 жыл бұрын

@@arpnar1243 correct Colin's does well but it seems he is limited to 10 or 12 carries a game, weather that's his groin I'm not sure. DJ Dallas is better than he was last year he should get 8 touches and sprinkle in some Homer. Sometimes we seem to be chasing the game. We had a good thing going with the tightends, that dump off worked all but for Dizzly's drop. Pour guy looks like he is trying to hard. Finish the last 7 games 4 and 3 and I believe we have a projected $60 million in cap space, that will buy you 3 offensive lineman and a couple of consistent 7 sac guys. Russell salary is becoming less of an issue, we need to give him better vision by blocking so he can hit a pass right down the middle. The one disadvantage of being short. He still has good moves running the ball set him up to run. Thanks for the chat, it's good couch time without going to a shrink haha

I'm just worried we're going to be like Greenbay and have decades with one of the best QBs to play the game and only one Superbowl

@HardCold-Alquan

2 жыл бұрын

At least they had gone to two and most of the nation accepts that the 2nd one should have been theirs.

@SpelunkingRaccoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardCold-Alquan yeah it does sound pretty bad to be complaining about only winning one superbowl...

Ohhhh I forgot get rid of Ken Norton plezzeeeee, thats all i want for xmas!

The bad thing about the Seahawks is they can’t fire him because Paul Allen died Pete Carroll and John Snyder bought out shares of the Seattle Seahawks they would have to fire themselves it’s sad but I’m 100% sure they’re going to make big changes if we have a bad season which we are rn. I agree idk about the picks we gave up and be nice to have a running back

His first year at USC he was at 2-5 before running the table. By year 2 he had completely turned things around.

The LOB defense they tried to replace failed: an O-line that would've bettered their run game AND not a folding pass pocket to protect franchise QB, was never focal point!

Hey Seattle! Jason Garrett is available! 🤩

One bad season the fans want him canned? Be careful what you wish for…

@ibekingape

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair the same issues being brought up thus season have been brought up in the last two seasons. Their fans saw the dowmward trend but Russ masked it. Remember when rumors of Russ leaving started up the year Russ got his new deal. It's been "something had to change" since then, with more uncertainty around Russ leaving. Smart fans want to correct issues before they reach the basement bottom.

@rastiga9196

2 жыл бұрын

@@ibekingape The "faux news" media is gonna make sure that doesn't happen as well as over absorbent contracts, not the usual faux news by the way if you know what I mean.

I was just like the other guy when Rich asked the question I would’ve bet anything it was when he was the Pats coach because WE SUCKED!! Which didn’t make any sense seeing as how we were in the SB the year prior with Coach Parcells. He just looked in over his head with us but then he went to college and revitalized his career and he’s had a lot of success both college and pro’s. I just don’t think they ever recovered from that Malcom Butler pick in the end zone!

How is the new OC Shane Waldron any better? The offense nearly looks identical to Brian Schottenheimer's offense. At least Schotty's offense was able to score.

I still can’t believe they didn’t run

Would love to see Pete leave before things get even worse in Seattle. He had a really nice run

Russel Wilson and the team might be better off with him resting until he's completely healed

As a Seahawk fan I feel Pete has to go and Schneider should trade whoever for picks and retool the team, it sucks that it has come to this but Seattle needs every young talent we can get across the board.

@LordMelbury1953

2 жыл бұрын

I read he has been given a contract extension until 2025, he would be 74 by then I think

Come back to SC!!!!!!

I dont think he's getting fired because of one bad season. However, if he does, I'd love to see him in minnesota as DC.

Drafting a receiver with their top pick when they have two (2) top receivers and NO running backs says everything about this team.

1-2 man 🤦🏽‍♂️

Shoulda had back to back Superbowls. Early 2010s Seahawks were nasty

Anchored to Russell’s contract for the 2x trips to SB?

@misters4022

2 жыл бұрын

....YUP! lmao

Seahawks fans:Let Russ Cook Pete Carroll: WE GOT TO RUN THE BALL Opposing team:Stops the run Pete Carroll:Save me Russ years after Seahawks organization:Russ the problem Me: lol yeah right sure he is

Ain't no way out for the Seahawks. Pete's 70. Russell is out. It's over.

Russel wilson didkt give the team a chance to sign any off season players. He wanted to get paid but that killed the cap. It’s his fault the team can’t do well

@eugenedenbrook322

2 жыл бұрын

Partly. Seattle has done themselves no favours, with ill advised trades, poor drafting, and running off players who hurt Russ' feelings. When your QB gets paid, it's hyper critical to draft well and be frugal in free agency. Seattle has mostly failed.

@johnchedsey1306

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, teams like the Packers have sucked after paying their QB huge contracts. :/

The upcoming game against the Vikings will tell you where the 49ers are. If they win this game, I think they make the playoffs. If not, I don’t think so.

@highvoltagemedia7150

2 жыл бұрын

I think they’ll still make it if they lose but they’ll need the Saints and Panthers to lose a few to help them out

Why isn't the team "pumped and jacked" as he had with the Patriots?

Back to USC?

Solution: The Lombardi sweep. Put a seal here and seal there and we're gonna run it UP the alley.

Yeah, Seattle, let Pete go. Free Avents love signing in the northwest in professional sports. And, it's not like Pete Carroll would go back to coaching college kids and have big success after an NFL let down. Heck, could you even imagine Pete facing Nick Saban for the championship against Alabama in the Rose Bowl? I doubt USC would offer Pete more than 5 years at 65 million. It's not like SC fans are desperate for a return to glory or anything. Eric Bieniemy would make a great Seattle head coach. And, I hear Baker Mayfield might be available when Russell Wilson demands another trade. Go Hawks.

@joseayala8506

2 жыл бұрын

Jason Garrett to Seattle!!!

@anthonyc2781

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not Pete’s fault necessarily. They haven’t been able to draft well since Scot McCloughans departure.

@zacht2806

2 жыл бұрын

Just need to let John Schneider go

I like Pete. He’s sincere. He’s where the “buck” will stop tho

Bout time !!!says all us Niner Fans

Maybe Shane should abandon the Madden 93 playbook

In 2020 Wilson had a career high 40 TD’s and the team set a franchise record for points so let’s fire the OC Brian Schottenheimer.

Starts with an offensive line, they just don’t care enough to get one.

Russ was such a huge cover up for him.. Once he leaves this off-season it's a wrap for Seattle. It's a bout time, they had a solid 10 year run. Time to blow it up

It's Never good when you start off your comment with "I Used too" but I Used too love it when the schedule came out and we had 5 or 6 Primetime games because we WERE such a good team and Excellent in Primetime games almost unbeatable the best ever in Primetime games I believe and now this year we are so Sad and Pitiful that I Pray we don't have any more Primetime games it's EMBARRASING and nobody wants to watch it so take away all of our Primetime games NFL please they dont deserve them.

Carroll to USC?

Pete Carol needs to turn it around next year or retire.

Thanks for the 1st round pick Pete LMFAO 👍

Rich always seems to interject a comment about the Jets into every conversation.

You can always blame the coach, but remember, when you give the majority of available money to one player, you can't retain the skilled players you have, or bring in other skilled players. Look what it did for Luck in Indy, and the same thing will happen in KC. Your not going to get the best out of a 3-7 team. Unless a player is looking to prove FA value, you're going to get guys showing up for a check just trying not to get injured. The coach can only do so much with what he has-Jets, Giants, Panthers....

Nothing last forever folks.

ouch

PETE has let the team get soft and there is no fixing it !!!! NO DISCIPLINE !!! Start with the coaching all the way down to DK and Russell in to even 65%

I think Pete is having a case of regrets for the big deal he gave Russ, since then Russ has not been the same. Wild the NFC West so stacked right now Russ is probably fourth best QB in that division at the moment.

I think Russ either ends up in Miami or Carolina. I would think that Seattle would be more interested in shipping him out of the conference and Miami has the draft capital.

So, what you're saying is the Seahawks are the NFC's example of the Browns...?

They'll be lucky to go 3-4 in remaining games could easily be 2-5, hey let's trade a safety for 2 first rounders and a second rounder.

Say goodbye to Russ, Pete.

Two Jets picks who will be wondering why they entered the draft and when will they be traded.

Yeah, Pete's a good coach. HOF? I'm skeptical. I don't see "all time great" kind of coaching

They could easily be 8-9 and pray for a win if they don’t lose to bad teams like hou, chi, and det. Az and LA are losses automatically if they don’t sign Adrian peterson or some game changing running back. All our guys get hurt being bruisers instead of finesse guys. We need an AB style RB

Life long Seahawks fan ITS OVER PETES DONE

The way out is for Pete to retire. Start over with a new coaching staff; this team also needs a player overhaul.

Let Pete Coach! Russ wants to “cook” and that doesn’t equate to winning. Russ went Hollywood. He’d rather lose pretty than to win ugly. He’s got all the money and wonders where the O-Line and Defense went. Ship him to New York so he can be a “star.” Rebuild like the Pats did.

Imagine if the Seahawks trade Russel Wilson to the the steelers.

@lastpme

2 жыл бұрын

Broncos

@KLeeMr

2 жыл бұрын

Russ, and by proxy, his wife, have a no trade clause. She owns him. He’ll only OK a trade to a big market so she can work/benefit. Pittsburgh’s not exactly an entertainment capital. They have a great football culture but nobody who’s not from there wants to live there.

@theson22788

2 жыл бұрын

No arod already call dib

@markosekulic119

2 жыл бұрын

@@KLeeMr unfortunately for his wife all major markets are taken, Giants are far worse then seahawks., jets are dumpster fire. Rams and Chargers have their qb and Chicago just got their future qb.

@KLeeMr

2 жыл бұрын

@@markosekulic119 Do you really believe that he cares about winning at this point? He’d go to either NY team in a heartbeat.

He should go back to USC.

Russ holds the ball longer than any QB in the NFL Research, Russ was good when he had the legion of boom and marshawn lynch, Hike 1 2 3 4 run to the right 1 2 3 4 throw or get tackled

Maybe he could make a rule for Russell like Bill did for Tom? I mean, if we can't win playing football, let's alter the game to enact the Carroll Rule, whatever-that-may-be, cuz winning is important. And records are made to be redefined...ala' "let Brady throw it first" then we play normal rules.

make it a 19 game season that way russ can go 3:16

Pete should’ve been fired years ago honestly

@hamoody703

2 жыл бұрын

I think he should of retired after they lost the superbowl cause they haven't done anything but lose in the 1st or 2nd round

@johnchedsey1306

2 жыл бұрын

No. That's silly. This is the first season that replacing Carroll should be a discussion.

@vincehenriquez680

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnchedsey1306 completely agree. This is the worst I think I've seen them In a decade

well maybe he will abandon them like he did usc...

@Phoenix85006

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

get a DC Pete

It is clear that Wilson carried the team last year

A bit of an overreaction, the Seahawks are an average team in a tough division. They have a top defense and a dysfunctional offense, very similar performance to the 2021 Steelers, just 0-3 in games decided by fewer than 7 points and had to face the top two teams in the NFC the past two weeks. Aside from against the Rams, they're going to look way better the next six weeks.

@matthewarnold4557

2 жыл бұрын

Their defense is decent at best

Russell Martin is not the answer. Never has been, never will be.

Russ has been holding this team together for 2 or 3 seasons with a steadily declining roster, and with only 3 draft picks this year, the toll eventually becomes due.

Russell is gonna be fine he's coming off an injury people need to just stop 🙄🏈🏟️

@KatJ3st

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't doing that great before the injury...

Time for Pete to step down. If they trade Russ because of Pete not leaving he will be remembered as an idiot in the future.

@dogkungfu8510

2 жыл бұрын

Russ isn't coming back. Why would he want to go through a rebuild in the last years of his prime?

@LordMelbury1953

2 жыл бұрын

Not with his massive new contract extension until 2025 💰

@eugenedenbrook322

2 жыл бұрын

Need to do both. Dump the 2nd best coach in their history, and you still have a mediocre, depleted roster with no draft capital. Russ takes up like 18% of their cap, and his prime is slipping away. What do you accomplish? Next year, without Pete, they're probably still a 9 win team.

@Nate-kd5yf

2 жыл бұрын

@@eugenedenbrook322 He’s 33 and arguably the most physically gifted athlete in the NFL. I’m not so sure “slipping from his prime” is accurate. Honestly, I think his prime is still for another 5 years.

Carroll is/was a good motivational. But his accountability has never been more than lip service. His coaching, along with his entire staff, is pedestrian. To the pont where i think he's either lost or is going to lose the locker room pretty quick. RW is gonna take a bow at season's end & request a trade.

I don't understand why the Seahawks sucking is a problem.

This guy should have been fired after SB 49. The play calling is awful and we're wasting some great talent!!

Pete come back to USC

Center. Seahawks haven't had a really good center in years. Its just that simple. They need a brain at center.