This channel's contraptions are so chaotic yet the presentation so chill. I love it

So, I have some ideas for the guides. I'm not an engineer and I'm not sure I can really explain it well, but I'm envisioning another arm added to the guide system fixed in place with a spring to apply tension to the guides. Obviously, some weight on the outrigger would almost certainly help.

This is maybe my favorite channel I've found on KZread. Amazing stuff, everytime!

You need a hedge trimmer mounted on the front lol

Go with your gut. Personally I believe the car to be safer. Lower center of gravity, too. Could you turn the bike into an escalator/elevator at the sand bar site? 🍻

Now that you mentioned 'airplane', that is all I can think about. I really need to see that bicycle fly now.

FWIW: Humor aside, I am glad to see you were not injured during that spill off your bike...👍

Maybe add the gas engine to the cart to give you hybrid vehicle benefits? Well done, great content, and keep going with new ideas!

What about a flange on the "inside" of the wheels? Then put a more sturdier outrigger with a train wheel and fix it the width of the track. Use the natural way train wheels react to the rail.

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

That's what my electric cart has. I wanted the bike to still be able to go on the road, so I couldn't think of a non-permanent way to do a flange.

@chrisstromberg6527

2 жыл бұрын

Run the flange on the inside of that bracket you have at each three points of contact. Just like a railroad High-Rail vehicle.

How about turning that little four stroke engine into a 12V generator and make your cart into a hybrid?

Mate cobba bro eels some flat bar on the back of the forks on a 45 degree pointing down .justs as long as u need it after ur measurement and on the front track bar as well . Drill locator holes to accommodate. Trampoline Springer inbetween the new mounts and holes .hope it helps mate a bro from australia take care cobba hope that sorts it 4 ya mate

If it is scary, it is not fun so let's "save it for parts"

7/10/22: Many years ago as a young man I constructed a rail-bike add-on much like yours. My experiences were also much like yours. Once a rail line is abandoned it quickly becomes overgrown with weeds and small trees(!). Joints in the rails had large gaps between them, occasional height differences, and even the distance between rails became substantially greater around curves. Bridges (open ties - no place to stand) and tunnels (dark as midnight) were frightening. Since my contraption used skateboard wheels, it only worked on well maintained (i.e. active) rail lines. Even when on a lightly used siding, I couldn't escape the feeling there was a bullseye on my back and felt the need to keep one eye glued to my rear view mirror. After a couple of injuries I scrapped the whole concept. In my nightmares the engineer of a cattle train spots me on the rails, slams on the brakes, and hundreds of cattle are injured smashing into the front bulkheads of their respective cars. Ooooh, the liabilities would be endless even if I managed to get me and my bike off the rails in the few seconds before the train flashes past. DB

I've seen some comments suggesting the rail kart gas-electric hybrid and I gotta say that sounds better than the rail bike. Just seems safer to me to have a lower and more centralized center of gravity; that outrigger has to be shifting your CoG off to the side which is not really a good idea for a bicycle, IMHO, no matter how small the shift.

Glad you where wearing a helmet. I wonder if you could come up with some device to cut the brush as you go along the rails.

3:36 what about a spring loaded guide? More metal and a stiffer frame around te guides, but still able to bounce if a large obstruction is present, or o be flipped out of the way if you want to drive it like a motorized bike?

Personally? I REALLY, liked your electric 'car'. It was quieter, you could sit on it, relax, haul more stuff...and it just seemed simple and 'neat' to me. I pictured you putting a roof on it and making it a tiny RV'ish thing. This bike looks nice though. ☮

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

I probably will focus on the electric flatcar deal (and I have another video on it ready for next week!). Electric is definitely simpler than gas even if a bunch of commenters say to stick a lawnmower engine on it! Only downside is I need more / better batteries.

@wudchk

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree! That's what got me started watching @saveitforparts! That rail speeder car is badass! There's a 8 mile stretch of track near me in central Texas (near Austin) that would be perfect for it 😁

I've (pedal powered) railbiked for 30+ years. I've had spectacular crashes.... it has always been the guide interfacing with rail imperfections (that mean nothing to a multi-ton loco), or rail debris. Suggestion: Come up with a completely different design, not an adaption of your present one. BTW, a rear guide is unnecessary. The rear wheel on a properly aligned bicycle always follows the front. Presently, I've no railbike now.... but I am in the process of a total redesign. The prototype gave promising results, allowing me to ride a road crossing, no-hands. Unbelievable, but true

Decades past, I had a friend that built both pedal and gas powered bikes and trollies to ride the long since abandoned narrow guage logging rails in the forests of the PNW. They worked much better than what you came up with, but he was a highly skilled millwright that built projects such as an all metal VW powered dune buggy that looked like a Jeep CJ2 that could be driven to the river and converted into a stern wheel powered pontoon boat steered with turning brakes.

Bro, build another, add a counterweight. Thanks for the ride.

that rail came up quick

You know how they used to put bulls going in circles, powering querns or wells? Use the bike to do just that!

At least you tried! How about the motor turning a diy generator to drive the electric cart. So you get the range of gas with the torque of the electric. Fun!

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

I have an old generator I was thinking of using for the other speeder. It only outputs 12v since the inverter is burned out, so I'd potentially have to modify it.

RAIL CART! Go Gas powered and then show me all the places to ride in MN. I purchased Wheels and Axles for a build after seeing your earlier videos and a few other Rail Kart Videos. It would be a Blast to go for a local tour with a few Rail Karts some day!

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

I usually don't share the exact locations but it's not too hard to find good spots with a little online research! Just make sure the line is 100% out of use and not capable of having a real train show up!

You need a second outrigger for your front wheel I think.

*_"Going off the rails,"_* *SaveItForParts* edition...😉

The rear wheel of a bike will always follow the front wheel, so throw the rear rail guide out the window. It's not doing anything there except for the additional drag and catch for the debris. You don't need either. The front guide is a must have with this design, but it may have to be improved a bit. I'd keep on developing this. It's much easier to carry a bike around obstacles than the cart.

@saveitforparts

5 ай бұрын

My rear wheel tended to slip off the track sideways, especially if the track is wet, dirty, damaged, or bent. I could see a guide-less rear wheel working on perfect, brand-new track, but then you couldn't use a railbike since it would be active track!

What about getting it to drive the 4wheel cart ?🚌🚌💗

make me proud to be a minnesota. thanks for the videos!

Can you show the burnt out trestle. That sounds cool. As a twin cities guy myself, I love seeing stuff I didn't know existed

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

It's towards the end of this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYGZ2qqldMerYZM.html around 8:24 I show the damaged part. The trestle isn't completely destroyed, just charred from a fire. The rails are separated and kind of floating in the air, so if a full size train came along it would derail.

@cerneysmallengines

2 жыл бұрын

@@saveitforparts If I may ask, where in the twin cities is this. It looks like it is in the New Brighton Area going off the architecture of the apartments

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

@@cerneysmallengines Every modern apartment looks like that around here. I don't think anyone uses architects any more, they just put a couple different shades of brown or orange on a box and call it a day.

@cerneysmallengines

2 жыл бұрын

@@saveitforparts this is true. I work for a bus company in Minneapolis. I see all kinds of parts hit our scrap bins. I'll keep an eye out for any rail type stuff if you want. I saw some steel castors a month ago that I meant to grab, but missed

Obviously you should find a couple rusty hedge trimmers and mount them to the front, so you have two horsepower of hedge trimming and a half horse of electric propulsion.

love this stuff😎

Well you gave it a try but the concept doesn't seem to pan out on the track that you have there with all the weeds and whatnot.The rail cart with 4 wheels seemed to work better in those conditions . Perhaps use the gas engine on the cart next time.Keep up the good work!

I mean this only semi-facetiously: Mount a _Weed Wacker_ on the outrigger to cut down tall grass. That will (1) Cut down tall grass, and (2) Put more weight on your outrigger.

About a minute and a half into this video, this occurred to me: Referencing your sail-powered rail car, if you were to use that thing commercially to haul mail for the US Postal Service, you could call it *_"Rail Sail Mail."_* {I will see myself to the door now...🤭}

@saveitforparts

22 күн бұрын

Lol!

yeah you sure need some weight, and some strength. I think you went too light. Also if you like the all electric, why not put this motor on it as a generator for off grid recharging?

I have a really cool idea for a train if you have some powerful magnets. A levitating train. You put a few magnets, arranged with opposite polarity on a spinning disk. This creates a inductive field on a conductive surface, which in turn repells the magnets. If you have 4 of those with some guides, you could make a hovertrain on regular traintracks. Look up the hendo hoverboard to see what i mean. I just hope it also works on magnetic surfaces without sticking to them. I only seen it on copper yet. Trying it out would be worth it tho

@Maddog3060

2 жыл бұрын

Look up the "WEDway People Mover" in Disney parks; that's basically the same idea of using magnets for propulsion, though I think they might use a different mechanism.

Here me out . . . Bicycle Helicopter!

To make the bike fly? You're gonna need a bigger potato gun. Potato artillery!

There are other rail bike Videos on KZread that you should watch.

Make a tunnel boring machine.

Shouldn't the guides be directly under the axis of the wheels?

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you mean straight under the wheel instead of ahead? I think that would allow too much twisting motion.

spring held pinch rollers on front and rear roller guides?

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

I actually started with spring-loaded rollers, thinking they would self-adjust to different sizes of track. I found that with weak springs they wandered around too much and with strong springs they introduced too much friction on the track. For this test the track was all one size without many variations, so I just went with fixed rollers.

@asn413

2 жыл бұрын

I see. hm. How about an H configuration whereas the top and bottom of the H would have springs across them as tie-rods, pivots at the cross bar, and the wheels at the corners. each end could track independently yet remain parallel. The springs would allow for slop.

Estou curioso para saber se você já tentou andar em um trilho sozinho sem ajuda da roda pra estabilizar?

@saveitforparts

Жыл бұрын

Eu posso andar em um trilho, mas não sou bom o suficiente para andar de bicicleta em um trilho!

Modify the cart with the bike motor that will speed it up

You're a Madman ! LMAO

NOOOOOOOOO! 😥😥

Make an hybrid car

I would give up on the rail bike and stick with the rail cart.

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

That's my plan, the cart seems much safer and relaxing!

Wouldn't the concept of the rear wheel following the front wheel only work if the "arm-rig" was connected to the center of the wheel? Seems to me like you have way to much play from your current contacts of the arm on the bike, to the track, no?

@saveitforparts

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure, I thought about linking both wheels or doing more of a full-length "skate", but I also wanted to be able to pop the guides up for riding it on the road.

Oooow ... You better go back to 4wheels much safer stay safe .