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@2UGamingProductions

Жыл бұрын

We did a video on alot of grading companies cases being in water for 5 hours and the Landry. Watch it before you select your grading company.

@timhackman9488

Жыл бұрын

This video was one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen. Definitely showed my what I wondered many many times about crossovers. Thanks and I’ll definitely check out your website to get some of mine graded for the first time

@robertaustin5244

Жыл бұрын

I'd have the Tua autographed at a private signing and PSA auto the grade only and go from there.

@theshecktheeich

Жыл бұрын

Do you accept non sports cards such as Pokemon or Magic to be submitted through grading through your bulk grading service?

@FortyBreaks

Жыл бұрын

@@former5-0trustjesuschrist57 but you're just randomly making that assumption. You have no idea.

I typically soak the slab in diesel fuel and light it on fire....once I feel like the slab is melted down to the actual card, I use a fire extinguisher to put it out. Then I pull the card out and use turtle wax to clean it with a soft brillo pad. Once cleaned, I submit the card to HGA and typically receive a Gem Mint grade. But that is just me.

@brianarmstrong2482

Жыл бұрын

lololololol

@stevenswancoat1150

Жыл бұрын

Thats a lie, HGA doesnt give out any Gem Mint grades.

@warriorwarehouse206

Жыл бұрын

one of the funniest takes I've read anywhere. I can't stop freaking laughing 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣..... thank you for making my day!

@staytight6340

Жыл бұрын

Omg you so funny😮

@MATTAVELLIE

Жыл бұрын

I pee on mine

What's interesting here is that Geoff was able to contact PSA about why his card was graded a certain way (15:33 mark), but us normal folks can't get an explanation of grades from PSA at all. PSA says they don't have that information, but clearly they do.

@leefeegreenz

Жыл бұрын

It's called clout. It's just the way it is and will always be. Life isn't fair.

@L3GENDZLuLKeK

Жыл бұрын

All companies cater to KZreadrs. It's annoying but with all the eyes focused on KZread that's how it goes

@titusremy5268

9 ай бұрын

If you have a very expensive card or coin grading company's 100% respond faster i have a top pop ancient gold coin literally the only one graded in the world and they responded so fast.

All the grading companies say their grading is all subjective, the problem is these are mostly new hires with no experience

@deep3reviews

Жыл бұрын

Yep agreed new hires who have never seen certain cards as well which makes it way worse

@themandalorian400

Жыл бұрын

@@deep3reviews This is why you have to have a senior grader whose been grading for years... preferably over a decade. double check the grade before it is sent back to the customer. I don't know about PSA, BGS, or CSG, but as stated by SGC's president Peter to Geoff in that behind-the-scenes videos SGC does have a pair of 15+ year "veterans" double checking all the cards before they are sent back. It's not a perfect system but eliminates some of the subjectiveness of only having one person with potentially little experience.

@joshc5625

Жыл бұрын

The problem IS that grading is subjective. If there was a science to it, each grading company would give the same grade for the same card.

@MainStreamRegimeDemocrats

Жыл бұрын

No, they must give expensive cards to experienced guys, that's just common sense

@elee712

Жыл бұрын

The money they make and the value of these cards should justify paying graders more, but they would need to go through some extensive training.

Use a thinner flathead, AND ALWAYS crack with GLOVES EYEWEAR and put the slab INSIDE a ziplock bag when cracking!

@FortyBreaks

Жыл бұрын

All very good advice

@tranceman14

Жыл бұрын

Doug is a wild man! Some country boys just don't learn til they lose an eye!

@2UGamingProductions

Жыл бұрын

I'd just us a drill a small hole then pry with a eye glass screwdriver and use like a crowbar it comes off easy

@OutsideDuhBox

Жыл бұрын

@Clint Clinty that might work as well

I think PSA needs to create a new grading category outside of “Trimmed”. If a card is for sure trimmed then label it as a trimmed card. If they think it was mis cut or under sized from panini/Topps/UD/Leaf or whoever but not trimmed then it should be labeled as such and just just labeled as trimmed. Trimmed comes with a stigma of the card being altered which I think pushes buyers away for sure. A must cut or undersized label would not be a harsh in my opinion.

@CryptoChef99

Жыл бұрын

It would be great if they could blast the companies on the back for bad off centers or anything else. Like " Severe off-center done by panini quality control " "Holo foil cut short by Topps quality control" & keep a database on it. To show how many cards we all get are way past what they charge.

@stop....hammertime

Жыл бұрын

You ever get a card and it was too big? I got a Waddle that won't even fit in a one touch, cause it's a bit too tall. Panini cut it horribly

@joeshmoe2746

11 ай бұрын

​@@CryptoChef99lol thats what makes mint cards have value though its luck of the draw. Would be kinda lame if everyone had perfect cards wouldn't it

Wild I just thought about if you uploaded. And new video came up lol. Thanks for the content bro!

Awesome video. I'm sure we all appreciate not having to wait months to see the results

“What it means” is that PSA can’t tell with 100% certainty if a card is trimmed or not. That’s a problem. They got fooled on some 2021 nfl contenders autos and it went public and now they’re just throwing out that cards are “trimmed” it’s bs. We should expect more from the “top” company that we pay the most for fees and wait the longest for turnaround times.

@genesmith3582

Жыл бұрын

problem is with a monopoly, they don't care. They have all the market share they could want.

@glyn420

Жыл бұрын

Beckett is awful at determining if cards are trimmed awful.

@TJJulkowski

Жыл бұрын

Hold on. Why would you “trim” a card unless you were trying to cheat? Any card undersized by manufacturer, or purchased is “altered”. That is the price honest collectors pay for the cheaters. Any altered card is simply not worth grading.

@SwanseaGCOCK

Жыл бұрын

SGC all the way.

@zebraallday8332

Жыл бұрын

Simple fix. ..all collectors dump psa and use the best grading company SGC. Collectors that have been collecting long than 4 years know this. Even if a card is graded I still examine the card. If expensive enough then with my loupe.i care about the condition of the card. Not what some 3rd party guy says. I have my own set of eyes. All you need is magnifying glass and black light n loupe

Fantastic show! All guts Paisano; God Bless! Keep up the great work, truly enjoy watching your videos. Of course, you have cost me a fortune bringing me back into the arena. LOL

This was a great video. It had all the ingredients in it to make it watchable - drama, intrigue, plot twist and a happy ending.

Great episode guys, loved seeing the the whole process and getting the results too 👏🏻

Great video guys! Thanks for not making us wait to see the grades!

The fact you can do that tells you how fucked card grading is. It's damn near a scan or criminal.

@KMK623

Жыл бұрын

Very true, especially when you advertise this practice, it opens a can of worms in my opinion, you wanna to keep submitting until u can deceive the grading companies so you can deceive the future buyer 😂. My eyes do all the grading I need anyways, if people want to pay way more because it says PSA 10 even though the card looks like the same as a PSA 9 or PSA8 or even raw, then that’s on them. Getting magnify glasses out is too extreme, I get it for vintage cards when people didn’t take care of them and whatnot, you wanna check for fakes or coloring, shit like that, but these days it goes from pack to top loader not to binder or bike spokes 😂

@sarahandbrettSCAM

Жыл бұрын

Yea its a joke

@elee712

Жыл бұрын

@@KMK623 grading the card really has nothing to do with the grade of the card. Like you said , there could be no difference between an 8, 9 or 10. If you never plan on selling, it probably doesn't matter to you. But say in 10 years you do, that 10 will theoretically make that card increase in value at a larger percentage than an 8 or 9. It depends on the card of course. I'm with you in that this crossing over of cards back and forth hurts the hobby unless there was a way of actually tracking this. There's cards that have higher pops than actual cards produced...

@tch1724

Жыл бұрын

Agreed... Possible survivorship bias. Only those making profit are more likely to share the story.

@sarahandbrettSCAM

Жыл бұрын

@@KMK623 paul you nailed it 🙌🙌

Glad you got back the 9.5 on the Tiger Woods, but for some reason the once "10" auto is now a "9", and the surface grade is now a half point lower. That, along with the Soto coming back at a 9... just shows how grading process can be subjective. It kind of makes you wonder how accurate the multi-stage grading process really is, and if in some cases you just have to get lucky... and have the right graders on the right days.

@booner1252

Жыл бұрын

fr. I am new to cards and i have no idea why everyone gives these companies so much money. at the end of the day it comes down to one person's choice lol

@mrshorty4313

Жыл бұрын

Its a flawed system but if buyers are willing to pay extra for a highly graded card then cardholders will continue to pay these grading companies for their subjective grades. Also once a card gets graded, it doesnt mean the card stays that grade but people still take the slab grade on its face value. And if PSA doesnt give subgrades, why are they most favoured than other grading companies? I have plenty of high end cards but still havent decided if I'll be a sheep and grade them like everyone else

@alecbest5236

Жыл бұрын

Oh, you definitely have to get lucky…

@SwanseaGCOCK

Жыл бұрын

@@mrshorty4313 Agreed I feel like SGC is more consistent. CSG is on it's way too.

@SportsCardInvestor

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I didn’t notice the drop in the auto grade until after. You are right though.

That video was so much fun! That's for the great content!

Incompetence is running sky high right now with PSA graders so anything is possible -- which is what everyone who's paying attention has seen lately.

Great video I loved it!

If you crack, you should be able to send the old graded label in so it can be taken out of the pop count. Cracking its over saturating the pop counts.

@quintonwood532

Жыл бұрын

AGREED!!!

@laknicks

Жыл бұрын

Pop report is a scam in itself PSA uses it to control values

@nick6.0wen

Жыл бұрын

They already do that.

@subzero4524

Жыл бұрын

Great point👍👍

@ngwalker00

Жыл бұрын

If you send in the label, they will remove it from the pop count.

Very cool idea for a video. Love this type of stuff

I enjoy seeing the results of crossover videos. The one thing I can’t understand is why people are still using screwdrivers and jamming them into the case. A painters 5-in-1 tool works much better. The wide blade can be used as leverage to easily pop the case open without risk of jamming the tool into the area of the card.

Definitely exciting to see, you should do more of these if possible

I'm always waiting for your videos to come out

Great video Loved it!!

Awesome video I enjoyed it how you showed the whole process have to do more like this thanks

Doesn’t this really mess with the pop count? For a sports card investor I feel like this drops the value of the cards because now technically you have 2 9.5 bgs woods cards

@tranceman14

Жыл бұрын

yep, pop count can never be accurate with all these crossover attemps. it's all smoke and mirrors at this point.

@brianadams6204

Жыл бұрын

It sure does POP counts are so far off that you should not even care about them unless it's a low numbered card.

@HereForAStorm

Жыл бұрын

I heard once that if you send the labels back to PSA they will remove the card from the pop. No clue if that's true or not.

@Tommy.OrginalvideosPhilly

Жыл бұрын

@@HereForAStorm true

@Ozhull

Жыл бұрын

Never rely on pop counts, it's ridiculous to do so. So many people resubmit

Great video!! Thoroughly enjoyed this one. 😉👍

The one that comes to mind is a Dak field level sliver RC. It was graded BGS 9. I offered the guy $450 for it but he declined in favor of eBay auction. I won the auction for $240. I cracked the slab and crossed it to a PSA 10.

Love your channel keep it up

This is your ONE OF YOUR BEST VIDEOS TO DATE!!!

For the future I do recommend using the snips on both of the top corners. It makes it much easier to separate🙏🏼

@FortyBreaks

Жыл бұрын

Solid advice.

Great video man

So moral of the story is to not crack and resubmit 🤣

What a fantastic video!! Great job!!

This was amazing ! Could watch this all day.

The size thing with PSA is ridiculous now. I had a similar situation, but not a big card. They have far too many new graders with no experience. Just sad and why I have pulled back from PSA.

@williammal2166

Жыл бұрын

i use beckett

Thanks for another great video

Instead of a flat head screw driver, I use a decent size pocket knife(its thinner then the flat head). Also, I am too scared to crack BGS 9.5s because you never know with PSA what grade they will give a card.

@jessieurgea9899

Жыл бұрын

The thing is that a pocket knife is smaller and would need more force to pop the Slab..I myself like that size screwdriver but with a more flathead....

@ja1720

Жыл бұрын

I go around the edges with a bottle opener to break the seal. It’s a lot more easy and safe to pry open

awesome video! tough luck on the soto!

Very cool experiment here, thanks for sharing!

Awesome episode, Jeff!

Always think it's funny when an autograph gets graded. "You didn't sign your name well enough so we're giving you a 9."

This is why grading is a sham.

Poor Doug 🤣 well done sir!

Nice to see what happens with some big cards trying to get crossed. Crossed a Trae Young Blue velocity rookie BGS 9 to a PSA10. Centering had an 8.5 and all other subs were 9.5. Thanks for sharing!

@scottjohnston2799

Жыл бұрын

yea just shows as i’ve seen many cards the past few years centering is a joke to psa

@eurostar0711

Жыл бұрын

@@scottjohnston2799 PSA is the grading company for flippers and "investors"

@scottjohnston2799

Жыл бұрын

@@eurostar0711 to an extent collectors still like a psa slab

Best Sports cards video I have seen in a while

Hey Geoff, if I submit to grade with you all, what are the policies on if the card was to get lost or stolen ?

Thank You Mr. Geoff for the knowledge *hats off*

How much did the grading fees eat into your profit? Also, not sure if it was addressed, but why did BGS drop the Tiger auto grade at the end?

Awesome episode my friend!

Nice love your channel

This is really cool! :)

amazing video!

The guys facial reactions were funny as fuck at the end lol 😆

My heart was beating! lol so nervous for you all

The anxiety lol awesome episode

Just started collecting baseball cards with my son. With the in person autos on cards we are getting, when should I consider getting authentication on autos and when should I grade? Trying to learn the basics for making those decisions. Ty for any help!

Safety glasses. LOL!

Your best video yet. More please

Great video!

Awesome video!

@jacobsherman4398

Жыл бұрын

Love your videos!

I don't know why you are so happy with the tiger woods back with a 9.5 (with a 9 sub) and auto 9 when you had a true 9.5 with auto 10. And the auto 9 label is heavily damaged lol.

@SportsCardInvestor

Жыл бұрын

It’s better than the alternative! I didn’t notice it was an auto 9 at that moment. That does stink.

This was a great video!

Where’s your safety glasses?!?! 😂😂

Now this is content. Thanks!

BGS is more consistent with their grading in my opinion, cuz they show you the sub-grades

There's a card show later this month in Melbourne that has onsite grading. What risks are there to on sites so I can be prepared? I have watched and pre-prepped from your vids in earlier posts

Have not watched yet, but absolutely love the idea!

Early on the grades show some good consitency between the two companies when it comes to the grades. That Soto just shows how PSA is 10 or bust a lot of times. Subgrades do matter.

Wow one of the best shows I have seen so far. Lol

I just had a card I got from a Prizm football break come back from PSA as trimmed. I put the card up against another prizm card and the card is the slightest bit shorter from top to bottom. I doubt the breaker trimmed it and I certainly didn’t trim it so I guess it’s just a factory defect

@stop....hammertime

Жыл бұрын

I bet that's it, brother. I got a Waddle black/purple /199, and it was actually a tad too tall for a One Touch. It was a tiny bit taller than my other prizms when I put them up against eachother as well. I just collect, so I should've learned how to trim it, cause I tried to trim it so it would fit in my one touch, and I totally destroyed it😂 Live and learn, baby!

Can you do this with the same card and get it graded at PSA, BGS, CSG, and SGC? Would be interesting to see how different the same card gets graded by different companies.

@cardgirl2890

Жыл бұрын

And then over again to each company to prove that a different grader at the same company will give a different score.

@cardgirl2890

Жыл бұрын

And then over again to each company to prove that a different grader at the same company will give a different score.

I'm not surprised about the Soto b/c it's not serial numbered. Essentially, they're looking at the card for the first time. The Tiger card is serial numbered, thus, all they had to do at BGS was look through their archives. That being said, why the different auto grade? Maybe they were punishing you for trying to outsmart them! Fun video to watch! Keep em' coming.

@cardgirl2890

Жыл бұрын

Good point

That cracks me up every time you you show the card he takes a deep breath lol

At 3:00 " we are gonna send that to psa 10 " 🤣

Awesome episode

I use Burt’s card care wax to clean my cards. It takes the grime and dirt off. You can see the dirt removal on the microfiber cloth. Brings a good shine back to the card.

Love this kind of vlogs. 👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Gosh... you have too much spare times guys! Me too watching this video lol.

Nothing wrong with this practice if you would put up with the gamble, effort and time, My take is if you have a Bgs 9.5 keep it as it is. More power Fellow collectors and SCI

@tubenachos

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure because several years ago I crossovered a 86-87 Fleer Magic Johnson BGS 9.5 to a PSA 10. You never know

would be interesting to see how PSA and BGS responds to this enlightening video. don't think they will be too happy with it. way to shake things up and maybe improve their inconsistencies! BGS seems to be all over the place with that Soto.

This might be a silly question will stuff like this affect the pop count on greaded cards? Great video though keep up the good work i like your videos

So when I cracked a LT rookie I sent to sgc. It came back with a A for authentic. They didn't grade it why is that.

What's the best grading company for old cards? I'm upset with my PSA submission return on my old cards.perfect 59 Topps Rocco cavalto only got mint 5

What an episode!

Cracked open Two BGS 8.5 Jordan Fleer RCs. Both with 9.5 centering. Submitted both to PSA at last year’s National in Chicago hoping for PSA 9s… Well… One came back altered, other came back trimmed…. I was devastated… 😭 So, this year’s National, I have resubmitted both to Beckett hoping for 8.5s…. They both received 8.5 but I lost .5 pts this time… 😓 It is a gamble for sure, so at the end, I simply wasted 1700 in grading fees… 😭

@GemRippers

Жыл бұрын

That makes no sense that they came back 2 different things because trimming a card is altering it, right? Did they give you codes for both? And they charged you still for both, correct? I recently got back a N5 aka "altered stock" on a Ripken rookie for someone that ripped from a pack when he was a kid, and it's been in a sleeve & top loader since. But I also had an UD Brady rookie came back "EVID TRIM" but no code, too. But the most frustrating is ultra-modern cards coming back ungraded like a Burrow Select that we had come back with the N5. I just wish they would give you an explanation as to why they didn't grade...or maybe they do if you just ask? Like when I get upcharges, I always ask how they got to the new price and PSA is very prompt in getting back to you the comps used. But ya, nothing really worse in grading than your card coming back "gradeless". Great video tho, I am all about cracking BGS SGC HGA CGC slabs to send to PSA, it is a VERY lucrative part of the hobby if you know what you're doing. We have a video cracking an HGA 9.5 Brady Select Cosmic that really was an eye-opener lol

@robdemare8250

Жыл бұрын

@@GemRippers Grading companies love guys like you...

@GemRippers

Жыл бұрын

@@robdemare8250 It's a mutual love my friend!🤑

Awesome segment

I watch all ur vids...this may be my fav. Please do more vids on this subject matter...although u dont hav to do such expensive cards, lol.

I like how they converted some PSA cards to BGS and BGS to PSA

Great content

Great idea for a video…I’ve always wanted to try this

Wait a minute wasn’t tiger a BGS 9.5 10 auto. You got back a BGS 9.5 9 auto

@sfl3417

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir it was Didn’t mention it And what did he say ? Ah consistency Right…

Wow! Amazing!

I love your videos so much

Psa all the way!!!!

Awesome Ovechkin, congrats!

Nice to see the Tiger come back a 9.5 but they dinged the auto grade one notch down to 9 from 10.

@SportsCardInvestor

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I didn’t notice that at the time but you’re right they did :(

@spic0li

Жыл бұрын

@@SportsCardInvestor yes that part was unfortunate as it looked to have a very crisp autograph but kudos to you overall for doing this high end crossover experiment & great job on the OV it still has alot of room for growth as he will be breaking some records to come.

The absolute randomness of this at these price points is insane.

This is fun!

@Jesusistheway8

Жыл бұрын

Yo

You have definitely peaked my interest to return to investing back into cards. I will continue to learn from your videos and if you have any advise to share I would appreciate being pointed to read any material you suggest. Based on one of your most recent videos, you spoke with a new grading company, Transparent Grading Company, I was wondering if you learned more about them and why you may not be using them instead?

@bdavis0718

Жыл бұрын

yes. this is my first time posting and I just subscribed!