Always remember Ben Heck's lesson #1: Design things which can be easily taken apart later.

@TheOfficialFloridaMan

14 күн бұрын

That’s the main reason I got rid of my Parvum case, it’s a pain in the ass to do any type of maintenance without having to fully disassemble. My jonsplus i100 pro is much easier to work on

@def-po8tu

14 күн бұрын

​@TheOfficialFloridaMan that's why I got the haf700, I love working in this case. Everything is really easy to access

@a.x.w

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, you can either build a show piece or build for maintainability. I just use black soft tubes and clear, colourless fluid. Put a fill port at the highest point and a drain port at the lowest and you're golden. RBG isn't a headache either because there isn't any.

@TonyM-zi9rq

14 күн бұрын

That's the reason I'll never have a custom loop water cooling setup again. Had one in the mid 2000's and it was a royal pain to deal with if you had to take it apart. Not worth it at all.

@a.x.w

14 күн бұрын

@@TonyM-zi9rq They can be quite easy to work on if you design for maintainability. Add fill and drain ports, add some slack to the soft tubes so you can move components around and avoid coloured fluids. Obviously, it's never going to be as easy as air cooling but on the flipside, my system is barely audible under full load.

The more I watch Jay the more impressed I am with his water cooling and the Less I ever want to do any kind of water cooling.

@PhilJohn1980

13 күн бұрын

To be fair, I've watercooled with clear fluid, and ZMT flexible black tubing and have zero issues. It looks industrial though rather than the pretty hard lined builds Jay does.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

12 күн бұрын

I hate water cooling and it is overrated. Stick with Air cooling or sealed AIO

@jemborg

12 күн бұрын

​@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns I'm with you. 👍

@K31TH3R

10 күн бұрын

I have ran water for 20 years. I have always ran soft tubing and Valvoline Zerex at a 10/90 ratio to distilled water. I'm still running the same Laing D5 Vario pump and Swiftech MCR-220 radiator in my current PC that I bought in 2004 to build my first loop. I have never had any of the problems Jay has, and I have to assume he continues to use garbage pre-mixed PC coolants despite all the problems solely for views and controversy in the comments. If you use automotive anti-freeze and EPDM based soft tubing, your loop will last indefinitely, and you can feel free to push maintenance periods out to ~5 years, or just whenever you do upgrades or a new build.

@caffeinesippingman

8 күн бұрын

I know, I just watched Jay with the kit, and he said let me know if this makes you more or less likely to do water cooling. There are always videos like this to remind me of the answer. To be clear, because that is one of the top 20 most beautiful PCs I have ever seen, the answer is still no. But man I thought about it at 13:56.

Jay's experiences with opaque fluids are EXACTLY why I only use clear coolant.

@DGneoseeker1

14 күн бұрын

I would hesitate to admit to having "experiences with opaque fluids".

@Dexx1s

14 күн бұрын

The look of them is never worth the maintenance.

@ledoynier3694

14 күн бұрын

@@Dexx1s and they are impossible to completely flush. clear coolant after that will always have a slight haze to it unless you replace all parts, including fittings.

@Dexx1s

14 күн бұрын

@@ledoynier3694 and they're more expensive than distilled + biocide. I'm more of a black tube guy so I can't even see the fluid anyway.

@dangingerich2559

14 күн бұрын

@@ledoynier3694 Same with dyed/colored coolants. I tried out red for a little while, and it stained my carpet. Trying to flush it out of the loop was painful. After 10 flushes with just distilled water, I just left it slightly tinged red for several more changes, until I finally had to change all my blocks out for new hardware. Now it's clear again, but the only things left of the old loop are some old fittings.

And I got roasted for having the ugliest PC in the world that I can take apart in a matter of seconds. I feel like there's a middle ground between your build and mine for people that still have some sanity left 😅 Awesome video as always!

@MandoArtsudios

11 күн бұрын

No way, the Greatest Technician that ever lived

@81formann

11 күн бұрын

When it comes from people who spends more time making their tools look like a kids toy than they do using it, its a compliment. A PC is a tool, and what makes a good tool, is everything but looks. Every single dollar and every minute spent on RGB, parts with custom paint job, chrome finish and what not, could have gone towards improving reliability, performance, maintenance free operation, memory compatibility and QC of bios and drivers. Time spent by end user could have been spent on improving and/or acquiring new skills. Be it gaming, engineering or general life skills. In short: They would have been smarter and they would have had a faster, more more reliable PC. @Jay: Shame on you for encouraging the bright but easily influenced young people to this.. WOMBAT.

The channel known for water cooling has always done a great job in making me feel good about my choice to never water cool my pc.

@rockchalkv

14 күн бұрын

Signed, the Air Cool Gang

@wll1130

14 күн бұрын

Yea, it's such a pain in the ass. I fail to see why anyone who doesn't actually need it would want to deal with all of that bs.

@Zasaramel

14 күн бұрын

Exactly this.

@connor040606

14 күн бұрын

Maybe people will realize that Jay really does not know a damn thing.

@codemang87

14 күн бұрын

​@@wll1130 it's an art. It's not about need.

Seeing all those fan cables makes me even more grateful for how simple Lian Li makes fan management with the link together system

@Maradiaga23

14 күн бұрын

I have 3 brands of fans in my system, thankfully they are all either Lian Li or have very short cables designed for daisy chainning. That makes cable management that much easier and neater compared to my older systems where each damned fan had 2 long calbes coming off of it.

@peterpeter5666

14 күн бұрын

10 lian li fans in my system 1 controller and software that actually works

@daviddesrosiers1946

14 күн бұрын

I'm glad I went with Lian Li also. My rig is riddled with Lian Li/EK. I have their collab distro plate in an o-11 D-Evo.

@daviddesrosiers1946

14 күн бұрын

@@peterpeter5666 I had ten when I was running 12th gen i9 and an AIO. I of course went insane, got a 14th gen i9, threw a mortgage payment at EK and now I'm running six fans.

@peterpeter5666

14 күн бұрын

@@daviddesrosiers1946 same case no distro. was too expensive and difficult to get one in canada

Phil's laugh in the background ALWAYS kills me😂

A testament on how the hassle is not worth water cooling.

RGB is a double edged sword for me. The way it looks, when it works properly is glorious. On the wiring and software side of things, lies the bane of my existence, an otherworldy hellscape. I managed to get my rgb setup to work with one software only and that is a bliss. Once you start mixing several rgb eco systems you are in for a world of hurt and desperation.

@Xenoray1

14 күн бұрын

SignalRGB saved me, i dont need to have anything bloatware related to have installed anymore (asus, logitech, gskill crap), all of them just sync up nicely even 12volt rgb together with the 5volt argb makes good effects like waves of blue and red i have set up (ton of customs even reacting to ingame stuff), but only after windows sets up, until then its going rainbow puke (which can be turned off bios site but i like it^^) but i have half of the rgb jay have, so im thankfull

@sabermajora408

14 күн бұрын

Ive always had rgb die or bug out, like even on the gpu. Now I just keep everything off and use noctuas

@konrad1428

14 күн бұрын

I don't even see my pc from my desk so there's no rgb in it whatsoever :)

@stephenhood2948

14 күн бұрын

@@Xenoray1 I've tried Open, Signal, MSI Mystic Light, ICue, I just cannot get one app to control all my RGB. I have the Montech King 95 Pro case, and the case fan lights are the real problem ones. Plus my Galax 4070 has to have its own app to work the RGB. I would really like to get one program to control these lights. I think it may be the Montech case fan hub, I was thinking of trying some other hub. I did get some sort of message when trying to use the Signal RGB, something about a channel wasn't recognized?? I went to their website and tried their troubleshooting tips, still nothing. This case looks amazing, its just too much work to sync the RGB like this. The 4070 does have an RGB output connecter, I can see if it came with the plug and wire the hub up from there, but then Id have another wire running out of my GPU. OP is right, RGB can be very frustrating.

@daviddesrosiers1946

14 күн бұрын

The industry needs to get their excrement together and agree on a unified standard for RGB device communication and interface. A USB type standard, if you will.

Jay, put some heat shrink tubbing on the brush fleck shaft, this will protect the threads of the fittings hole and the anodizing when cleaning things, I've used similar brush styles and the spring coil will wear a groove into soft aluminum and plastics, all now prevented for $1 worth of heat shrink tube

@davidhines7592

14 күн бұрын

i must say i worried seeing that and hearing the sawing noise.

@billy5688

14 күн бұрын

This applies to us, but realistically to content creators, it doesn't matter. He'll replace it before that happens

Be sooo nice to be there and actually learn more. I've been into pcs for about 10 months and your channel was one of the 1st i came across and then many others. Now I can build one from ground up. Watch..seen.asked and researched. I built one for a friend and just saying thank you Jay for all your content. Really Good stuff. I don't subscribe normally but to yours, I did

Jay! Long time fan. I hope you are taking care of your health bro

At this point, i'm surprised you haven't just sourced frosted tubes and reservoirs. It'd give you a similar look with just water and (optionally) dye.

@jttech44

14 күн бұрын

Not too hard to frost them yourself.

@user-neo71665

14 күн бұрын

Scotchbright pad and a few minutes of elbow grease and everything he already has can be frosted.

@jarls5890

14 күн бұрын

With just water you will have growth in no time. Another issue would be galvanic corrosion. No matter how pure that water is - there will be spores in the air that is in the system prior to fill. And if you have a mix of metals - aluminium, copper and steel - it will eat through through the aluminium in no time (the least noble of the metals mentioned) Back in the day (approx 2004) when I built my first and only custom waterloop you could not buy most of the stuff you can buy for this purpose today. We used engine coolant mixed with de-mineralized water. This contains mostly propylene glycol - which prevents growth and galvanic corrosion. BUT - water is the best carrier of heat (unless you can source some heavy water) - so you want to find the ideal mix between water and the coolant.

@kratakiis

14 күн бұрын

@@jarls5890thats why they put biocide in the water…

@-Skratch-

14 күн бұрын

Frost looking tubes, Corsair has and I believe he is using. The reservoir tube is glass. He would have to go acrylic and scotchbright to achieve the same effect on the res.

This is why I don't bother water cooling anything anymore. Water cooling is really just air cooling with extra steps (because the heat ultimately has to go into the air for rejection to the ambient environment) and, frustratingly, a lot of extra stupid and extra expensive busywork. And with air coolers being as well-designed and having as much thermal capacity as they do these days, the differences are mostly down to being marginal. Really it's a no-brainer.

@spongesurf

12 күн бұрын

I notice a huge difference with noise. And less ambient heat. No way I'm going back to air cooling.

@wasd____

12 күн бұрын

@@spongesurf The placebo effect (a very real thing) notwithstanding, it's literally not possible you'd objectively have less ambient heat either way. The CPU/GPU don't know or care what you're cooling them with, they produce the same heat load either way so it's the same amount of heat that ultimately has to be rejected out of your system to the ambient environment. Less noise? Maybe, but noise is always an "it depends" thing and at the end of the day you're the one in control of your fan speeds so noise is really on you and your preferences in balancing noise vs. temperature.

@spongesurf

12 күн бұрын

@@wasd____ A LOT less noise. That was my biggest grief. But ambient temps as well. Water reacts differently to temp fluctuations. Look it up. Been aircooled all my pc gaming life. Once I switched to full water loop it is no comparison. Same case similar builds in same game room with same AC temps.

@TheCloudhopper

12 күн бұрын

@@spongesurf It's a lot less noise... until the moment the pump develops a rattle. Someting that i learned NZXT Kraken AIOs are VERY prone to do. Generally the pumps are the achilles heel of any loop. If you take a dual to air cooler with dual 140mm fans in push pull, like the Noctua NH-15D or similar ones from other manufacturers, you won't hear all that much and if one fan fails, the cooling will still be ok-ish until your replacement fan arrives.

@DocOrtmeyer

12 күн бұрын

I copied jays whole build in 2017, and I’m going back to air for my next build. I don’t want to worry about a possible leak, despite NEVER having had one. Just the idea, is too much for me

Not nearly enough "clean up" videos when it comes to hard line custom cooling - thank you for making this. There's so much content for making one - not much about upkeeping them.

Thanks for this. Just made my strong feelings against custom loops even stronger. I really-really don't feel the need to screw myself in every orifice by making such a loop ever.

I hate how the RGB/ARGB connectors are STILL a problem. They should not be reversible or just fall out because they have no latch or ridge to secure or hold them together.

@meneldil7604

11 күн бұрын

thirmaltake made latches for them and thay come with there fames

When 1 ball is working better than the other one

@RyanFennec

14 күн бұрын

💯

@douglasmclellan6702

14 күн бұрын

👌

@fajaradi1223

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, now I know why you kinda leaning left a bit when you're standing or walking.

@leonidastankiangaming

14 күн бұрын

💀

@Butterfingers1989

14 күн бұрын

Maybe you should find out how balls work...

This video was great in solidifying my mentality of only air cooling my builds.

Jay It's Great To See That Legend Back On Screen !!!

Same happened to me, this EKWB mystig fog shit fogged my whole system... Switched to DP Ultra - best move I've done tbh

@Simon_Denmark

14 күн бұрын

DP Ultra is good but you can't flush it down the drain because of ethylene glycol. I've been using XSPC's Pure clear for about 2 years now which you can dispose normally and I've been happy with it.

@webcodr

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, DP Ultra is probably the best fluid you can buy. I've had it in my loop for years together with EPDM rubber tubing from EK (I'll give them that, ZMT tubing is a really good product) and Watercool. It's not fancy, but it makes no trouble and therefore is absolutely reliable. Even after years, the blocks were clean like new ones. But I had my fair share of trouble with other fluids and tubing before I switched to DP Ultra.

@shinaikouka

13 күн бұрын

I tried CryoFuel Mystic Fog once and only once. I ended up going back to just distilled water with biocide and anti-corrosion (added again every 3-or-so months). Sadly, I had a feeling that Jay might've been using it when I saw the loop, and I cringed a bit once he mentioned it.

Jay, I've had this happen to me a few times as well. What I believe the issue is, is that EKs CPU water blocks have their fins very close together, so close in fact that particulate get stuck between the fins. I have an Barrowch CPU block (free hand-me-down) and it has been serving me fine. The fins on that block are farther apart than EKs, and I've realized real quick that I had no more 'fallout' over time. This is also why only your CPU loop is affected, the GPU fins are also much farther apart and allow all the particulates to flow freely between them.

I always love your "issue fixing" videos, because whereas you give great advice in all your videos (well, almost all), these are the ones where I learn the most. I've not built a watercooled system yet, but next one may be first I try - so before I start buying parts, I'm very happy for all input I can find on what to avoid, what to look out for and - should anything come up - how to fix it easily and quickly. The first thing I learn from this is: Make all parts easy to access and, ideally, easy to get out and/or replace. The second: Don't use ASUS (which I've already decided after I finished - more or less - my current system. Had random system lockups for almost a year until finally some firmware update fixed that, and it was 100% ASUS Armory Crate that caused the problems (when I kicked that, the freezes stopped, when I re-installed it, they were back). Another thing I'm learning is that frosted liquid looks cool, but also can cause problems, so for my first wc build I'll propably stick to clear.

I’m really glad you made this video. I’m planning a pc build and wanted all white rgb. Something that slipped my mind that you mentioned is white uses all the rgb colors so that draws more power. That is something I never considered and will definitely make sure I don’t run into rgb overload.

I'm glad I designed my system without RGB so I don't have to deal this these problems

Love your videos jay.

Jay and crew you guys are great not looking for any sympathy, but I just came out of brain surgery day before yesterday be catching up on your videos and you guys put a smile on my face every day. Just watching you guys work that tho the projects and all. An wanted to give you thank you for all the funny videos and pro tip. If it wasn’t for you 3. I probably would’ve made some big mistakes in my builds. An here it is!!!! THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart! Keep up the great videos please. No this is the only common I’ve ever made on any channel!!

Poor Jay, things just don't want to work out for him sometimes. Don't worry, it will get better.

There was a post from EK on their mystic fog and it separating, they advised to NOT flush with distilled water as it messes with balance. They advise to flush with just clear cryo fuel once or twice after distilled water

@OMGitsathing

14 күн бұрын

not a bad idea to push more fluid sales lol

Clearly what this build needs is a couple AquaComputer Farbwerk 360s.

@brandonhoffman4712

14 күн бұрын

And some boba!

Bro! Its been like 5 years since I been here. Rockin that gamer body ma boi...

So as awesome as it all is and amazing as it all looks. Jay has convinced me never to do custom loops.

Change the fluid out completely Jay, the CUMputer needs a different color

You recently asked why not more people try custom water cooling. Well that's another reason. There's so much maintenance and points of failure.

@BobBobson

14 күн бұрын

The maintenance isn't nearly as bad if you stick to distilled water with biocide. Opaque fluid falling out is a known issue, and isn't recommended to run long term.

@0Blueaura

14 күн бұрын

@@BobBobson there is near no issue in simply swapping a broken fan from a heatsink that will never fail you

@ledoynier3694

14 күн бұрын

Watercooling is way less maintenance than aircooling. a coolant change per year, 5 minutes job if you didn't skimp on a drain port. Radiators are easier to dust too and don't clog as fast. But.. if you use opaque coolants, absolutely, it's a nightmare.. coolant change = take the whole loop apart, brush waterblocks, brush fittings, brush reservoir, take pump apart to clean the ceramic bearing and maybe replace it because those damn particles erode the rotor.. It's aircooling cleanup with watercooling costs.

@garetht677

14 күн бұрын

stick with any clear with bio or a clear pre mix and you'll be fine. As to building one out...just give enough flex, avoid hard line...looks pretty but a total effing nightmare with maint. I have quick disconnects at key points around my system too, so I can essentially separate my loop into 3 parts, the radiator, pump and gpu/cpu. I have solid black tubing 11/16 and acatel blocks cause I don't care what the fluid looks like anymore, once upon a time I cared but now I don't, it needs to function and be pretty much idiot proof.

@NNextremNN

13 күн бұрын

@@ledoynier3694 There are billions of aircooling systems running for years without any maintenance. Just think of all the office PCs that no one takes care of. Water cooling is certainly not less maintenance than air cooling. Just look at this channel how many videos has Jay made about issues with water cooling and how many about issues with air cooling.

I’m so glad jay has brought Asus back to the channel, this is the third video I’ve seen so far featuring an Asus product since the whole thing happened last year

I'm in the midst of a clean/flush/swap cycle right now. Opaque/cloudy fluids look cool, but I only run clear because I don't like the buildup.

I hate RGB so much, I'd rather use my 90s tower than buying any modern case with RGB preinstalled.

My advice as someone who used to have a watercooled build. Just don't do it. It's absolutely not worth it.

@darkmaster2110

13 күн бұрын

AIOs are fine of course, but yes, custom loops are simply not worth the extra cost and work they require

@tarkov666

13 күн бұрын

Mixing liquid and electronics always seemed to risky for me

@dr.brennstab2201

12 күн бұрын

@@darkmaster2110 I don't know the current state of AIOs, but they were quite unreliable a few years ago. I even had a case, where a friend of mine had to contact corsair serveral times for a replacement, because of pump failure. The AIO was mounted regulary, on top of the case. That means, that not feeding the pump properly, couldn't be the problem. The performance also wasn't that much better than a good aircooling. I'd probabaly build a custom AIO, if I ever want to get back into watercooling.

@RicochetForce

12 күн бұрын

Exactly. Save your time, save your money, put it towards a better GPU or CPU.

@pseudonym5872

7 күн бұрын

As someone who has built liquid-cooled systems for myself and others for many years, I wholeheartedly disagree with the "not worth it" sentiment. I don't do hard tubing - only flex tubing. Just that in itself makes a huge difference - flex tubing is nowhere near as difficult as hard tubing, both in the initial build and in maintenance. With a well-designed loop, the entire system is cooler - not just the CPU and GPU. Plus it runs quieter. And you can run less expensive components but get the performance level of more expensive components. The clock speeds will be higher due to lower temps, thus giving you higher performance.

had this mystic fog in 3 systems simultanly, perfektly cleaned, flushed on tap at sink first with cold and warm water for ages, then used ek cleaning set multiple times and so on.. every 2-3 weeks i noticed colordrop and needed to add stuff... after colored stuff and this im on only clear for life now..

Tell the truth Jay. You set up builds like this to give Phil laughs and make the rest of us feel normal. Days like this make the good days feel soooo much better! Terry from Australia.

Oh man, you got EK stuff in there? Same thing happened to me man. Don't believe them, as soon as I switched their 2 products out of my loop, no more gross stuff!

I hate RGB enough that I'll pay extra for parts without it.

@MrEliaaaan

3 күн бұрын

I still can't believe I decided to go full r3t4r and do a full rgb watercooled pc. My next build is going to be inside the fractal pop mini silent, no water, no lights, pure raw performance in the smallest case possible.

@MrEliaaaan

3 күн бұрын

@@foehammerTrance politically correct way to say r-e,tar|ded (also can't be banned lol)

This is exactly why I don't have any of this crap on my custom system. Performance is worth way more than "pretty"!

"The pump" "the fluid" i love this channel, and i also can't stop sounding like Arnold in my head, when i hear few of these computer words 😂😂

I'm honestly shocked that they would make a connector that not only can be plugged in backwards, but causes damage if you do.

@jakajese5160

10 күн бұрын

What you meant to say was that you're not surprised Jay plugged it in backwards ... it's like saying you're surprised you can plug the power cord into itself.

@grants7390

10 күн бұрын

@@jakajese5160 every other connector in a modern computer is keyed so that it can't be plugged in wrong and break something. an increase in customer support calls costs a hell of a lot more than making the connector not able to be plugged in backwards.

@youbetterwakeup2449

9 күн бұрын

@@grants7390 Agreed. I'm having a hard time coming up with any other electronics which allow for such mistakes. Most electrical outlets and plugs even come with one side bigger than the other, so there's no mistaking which way it goes in the hole.

@jakajese5160

9 күн бұрын

@@grants7390 news flash, D-RGB connectors are keyed, but if you're a dofus and plug the source into itself, then I don't think you should be building computers and especially shouldn't be showing/teaching other people how to do stuff on youtube or anywhere for that matter.

@grants7390

9 күн бұрын

@@jakajese5160 11:00 that's not a D-RGB connector. there are 4 pins. D-RGB connectors have 3 pins. it's a 12v RGB header connector.

Good ol Skunkworks

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

14 күн бұрын

you know the draw back to the cpu running to cold is it allowed the growth to form in the cpu loop the gpu loop runs to hot and kills off any growth when it runs preventing growth to get out of hand you know🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I "had" to replace my entire case because it was not compatible with my A RGB software and it kept breaking my computer... So new case, all new fans, and $300 later my computer is all the same color.... what a waste of $300 freaking dollars just to fix my ocd

I love the looks of these custom hardline watercooling loops. But this video nice demonstrates why I'm an aircooled guy (with some AIO exceptions) and always will. I just dont want to deal with this.

Me when first getting RGB: nice! beautiful! work of art! After 3 days, I turned all my RGB off. They're either OFF or only on a Solid White.

@brandonhoffman4712

14 күн бұрын

Meanwhile philips hue lights can dance to music... Edit: coming from the PC.

@magman687

13 күн бұрын

I use this stuff once and I had fall out within 24-hours and complete Fallout within 3 days on a new properly prepped EK system. It cost a lot of issues because it got stuck in the sins of the heat plate in both the GPU and CPU and it took a very long time to clean out and then of course the radiators and everything. I was lucky and for my trouble EK sent me two times the fluid that I purchased and in a different color that wasn't pastel as well as two clear premixes and a full roll of replacement tubing. So I learned the hard way not to use Mystic fog because so many people have problems with it I have three friends that have used it and they all had the same issue however I do know online there are some people that have won several months with it working just fine

When will people learn to not use stupid coloured or pastel fluids ?

@def-po8tu

14 күн бұрын

I like the crystal clear look. Pastel can look really cool but all the dye is really bad for the loop

@zachcollins4442

14 күн бұрын

Maybe they like using something other than clear?

@Rashimotosan

14 күн бұрын

Why do you care?

@99mage99

14 күн бұрын

Why do you care what someone else does with their own time and money, especially when they're just messing around with a hobby?

@jolness1

14 күн бұрын

Some folks think it’s worth the extra maintenance. I don’t but idc if others do.

This was awesome, please do another video on OpenRGB and how you use it please. I'm very interested in customizing my RGB configurations because Aura Crate isn't working the way I'd like it to.

I'm dealing with a semi loose rgb control cable at present... gotta love it.

Jay: “seizuring” Webster Dictionary: “seizing”

My PC is called No Fuss No Muss for a reason. No RGB. No water. Just plug and play.

@kevinerbs2778

14 күн бұрын

So, it's basically a console, lol.

@Prophetian

14 күн бұрын

​@kevinerbs2778 a very EXPENSIVE console emulator.

@Ben-le3nr

14 күн бұрын

​@@Prophetian when consoles are pcs and pcs are consoles which came first the egg or the chicken?

@billy5688

14 күн бұрын

​@@kevinerbs2778 how do you get console from just having a reliable PC?It's still a PC with full fledged desktop OS

@kevinerbs2778

14 күн бұрын

@@billy5688 No Pc is plug & play anymore. Only Consoles are plug & play. consoles have OS's now too, so you point is moot.

4:16 I have to LMAO. That sound reminds me so much of the rooter tool I used to clean out my bathroom sink pipe.

Get a darn Farbwerk RGB from Aqua Computer. They even have overload protection.

It's like having an aquarium... Awesome, so long as you can pay someone else to maintain it for you. I'll stick with an AIO.

I love watching your videos but man you make me appreciate that I just went with a Fractal Torrent and a good air cooler for my system.

One of the most beautifully assembled computers.

Liquid cooled PCs make me chuckle. The futility of chasing such a fleeting state of maximum performance among hardware peers is astounding.

These are the sorts of mishaps that eventually made me abandon open loop cooling. Too many points of failure and just ridiculous fiscal and maintenance overhead in comparison to simply...dusting heatsinks, coolers and fans periodically. Loop building is fun; but ultimately I'd argue its inefficient long term unless you have a regular workload involving twin 4090s or something; and that's just not most folks.

@garetht677

14 күн бұрын

tbh I do it because of fan noise. in my current build, the fans are sometimes not even spinning as they have a zero rpm mode while under load the fans maybe go to 700-900 rpm and make no noise. I've got a good air cooler backup for my cpu I've used and it was quiet, but the gpu I had...was soo noisy.

These videos are the reason I don’t bother with water cooling

@Profetorum

14 күн бұрын

This is a custom loop

Pro tip: that is what maintenance hatches are for ;-) Reasons why I dont like watercooling: 1. very expensive 2. very very expensive 3. maintenance intensive 4. very very very expensive But I am not a cc so it is annoying for him to do this again but at least he can create something for the channel. And probably I am too poor to understand the reasons of watercooling.

I had a loop with EK stuff I built in 2018, using EK concentrate with anti-growth stuff. I had that loop running for 4 years with no growth or issues, only the occasional top off with distilled water. Fast forward to 2022 same setup changed out the fluid with the same concentrate and nothing but growth and problems had to disassemble my distro, blocks and everything and tried again. 3 months later same thing. I was basically done with watercooling after that.

Air cool everything 😎

@Esa826

14 күн бұрын

Hrrrrrrr, whooooos, What you say? I can't hear!!!!

@Robbie-mw5uu

8 күн бұрын

nobody tell this guy that water cooled computers still need loud fans lmao

@Esa826

8 күн бұрын

@@Robbie-mw5uu I know but you can run them on lower rpm, less noise. "Overall, though, liquid cooling tends to generate less sound, as the small pump is usually well insulated, and radiator fans tend to run at lower RPM (revolutions per minute) than those on the CPU heatsink."

Is it possible to put a few drops of chlorine in a loop? It may be a stupid question but I'm just learning and know nothing about the subject. Thanks

@Phr0z3

14 күн бұрын

There are already growth inhibitors in it. Chlorine would just dissipate as it reacts with light.

I had the same issue you are having. The premixed stuff didn't fall out but the stuff you have to mix did. Very frustrating. I can see that it's building up on the inside of my tubing and in the micro fins.

Open RGB has been the best solution I've found, I tried signal for a while but it's more resource intensive and I still encountered issues with my RAM. Open RGB does not have the most polished UI and you do need a plugin to get advanced effects but once you tackle the learning curve it's well worth the time investment.

I learned 10 yrs ago not to mess with custom loop cooling .. AIO is the way to go

@thetrainshop

14 күн бұрын

Yeah if you're no fun. Building a car with various parts versus just buying one off the lot

@emanggitulah4319

14 күн бұрын

True. For Jay it's free content, for us unnecessary trouble

@Mirza-dg3ur

14 күн бұрын

@@thetrainshop terrible analogy lol. It's more like someone building their own transmission, AIO users still build their own PCs

the greatest technician that ever lived

@brandonhoffman4712

13 күн бұрын

Audio technician?

Damn Jay got big lol, much love sir! But please take care of yourself.

Everyone always thinks they are gonna be the exception with Mystic Clog, but you never will be. Pastel coolants will fall out and this is one of the worst.

I hate unicorn vomit. It's getting harder to find parts without it

@MaddJakd

14 күн бұрын

Funny thing is, and wait for it..... You can actually CHANGE the colors 🤯 I know, shocking.

@gkipp3924

14 күн бұрын

@MaddJakd wow, you don't say 🙄

@MaddJakd

14 күн бұрын

@@gkipp3924 your type always wanna chime in as if your stance is something original or so.ething to behold. Don't get mad when you get a reality check.

@gkipp3924

14 күн бұрын

@MaddJakd not mad, nor do I take anything your type has to say serious. If you want a rainbow rig, have at it I don't

@gkipp3924

14 күн бұрын

@MaddJakd Jay asked the question, your dumb sarcasm was not needed, hence the eye roll, but good for you, thinking someone is mad lol

So why would I ever want to water cool my PC? It looks like an absolute nightmare for maintenance and troubleshooting.

@reeepingk

14 күн бұрын

It is, you don't. Water cooling is for people who have too much time on their hands. There is virtually zero advantage over an all in one or heck, barely any advantage over air cooling.

@BobBobson

14 күн бұрын

It sounds like you wouldn't. As for the benefits, that's a simple Google search.

@IntergalacticBrowny

14 күн бұрын

Because water cooling looks cool and works well. Custom loops are really for people who want them, if you want the function without the hassle just get an AIO

@doctahjonez

14 күн бұрын

Because it's highly customizable, and looks cool when everything it set up. You don't have to get the stupid water cooling if you don't wanna.

@DGneoseeker1

14 күн бұрын

You wouldn't. Unless you were planning on doing some kind of completely insane and completely unnecessary overclock.

To clean the Reservoir like that, you should print a nozzle for a flask, which spreads it out and thereby cleans the sides.

Built a new loop for my youngest in the Evo RGB case with EK cpu block, gpu block, O11D distro plate and Lian Li TL/TLCD new fans. RGB is driving me nuts. The loop is excellent and before I started I worked out where the drain plug would go plus ensuring I can remove RAM and the main Nvme SSD without draining the whole system.

RGB is an absolute waste of money, electricity, and time. Also, I have enough light from my monitors; do not need any more in the room.

@a3-radio

14 күн бұрын

Most hobbies and passions are a "waste of money"

@Robbie-mw5uu

8 күн бұрын

are you a basement goblin that you don't have any lamps in your room?

I hate RGB. That's why first thing I do when I buy something with RGB is to turn it off!!! I don't need colors, I need power :D

@emanggitulah4319

14 күн бұрын

So true

@LunaStar666

14 күн бұрын

Same here. I agree.

@GDOsmium

14 күн бұрын

I've spent hours trying to figure out how to turn off the rgb on my cpu fan only to find out that I can't lmao, so there's just one component that is bright rgb in contrast to almost everything else being dark

@emanggitulah4319

14 күн бұрын

@@GDOsmium waste of energy and money.

@UltrafineDeluxe

14 күн бұрын

It's also childish looking.

No RGB, no clear anything, automotive coolant. Life is simple.

I had a hardlined cooling setup with copper plates and brass tubing, never had growth and I just used plain distilled water. I went for the raw metal look, no nickle plating on my stuff.

Damn, Jay gaining weight.

Am I the only one who just won't put water inside a PC? Only because. Everyone I've watched. 10x better than me, has always had problems with water cooling.

@christopheoberrauch784

14 күн бұрын

No, you're definitely not the only one.

@FasuloA

14 күн бұрын

I’m with you man, they look like the equivalent of supermodels when they’re done - but apparently also are supermodel level high maintenance as well. My M.O. is to way overspend once every 3-4 years on a new top tier system (i do build myself but no custom watercooling, just AIO) but want to leave it the hell alone and just play and enjoy in between.

@davidtran9444

14 күн бұрын

As an old school water cooler, hard tubing is an unsustainable fad.

@tmoshamo

14 күн бұрын

It seems like its making things overly complicated.

My loop starting growing gunk with EK Cryofuel Clear in less than a year. Also my EK leak tester was leaking, imagine what frustration i went through until i figured that out. I have nothing but EK Fittings, tubing, coolant and 2 D5 pumps and I'm so done with that crap of a company.

I hate RGB. I insist on having as little RGB in my PC as possible, and I turn off any RGB on devices like RAM and GPU that come with it.

@Robbie-mw5uu

8 күн бұрын

k good 4 u

"Can you spot what's wrong?" Yes, you used water cooling. Never use water cooling.

I always loved any your videos that had water-cooling in it. Especially when you were making your own water blocks for GPUs.

i love this PC...!!! awesome JOb JAy!!!

I love this kinda water cooler videos (and RGB as well) :)

I have the same issue with residu forming at the top of my reservoir since I switch to ek-cryofuel clear... I guess we could be looking at a common denominator.

I have never done RGB don't plan on starting anytime soon especially after viewing this vid LOL Thx Jay

I love Jay's COSHH Cupboard , he is so organised

I had a friend run mystic fog 2 different times. Both times the particles fell out of the mixture and gunked his stuff up. I have a crazy water cooled rgb loaded PC built in a thermaltake tower 900 and mystic fog would look SICK. But i have always resisted the temptation because i know how much trouble cleaning it can be when there are problem

I went with air cooling for my custom PC build along with a single RGB platform for ease of customization. 4 months of heavy use so far and 0 issues. Only maintenance needed is cleaning the case fan filters every 2 months.

I almost went for the mystic fog -glad I steered clear and went for…clear.

Love your videos Jay I can't understand why chase Framers was bashing you on his KZread channel I can't stand people that have to just talk crap about other people just to try to look good that's all I have to say about that sorry you went through all that with your pc thanks for sharing

"I am not at liberty to talk about." Jay just did a "can't say, signed an NDA."

Take my strong hand had me dying🤣

Yes, I hate RGB with a passion. It's always a rat's nest no matter how long I take or how good I am about actually trying to manage the wires. That's why I'm so excited about Corsair LINK for my next build. Their pump/res combos, CPU plates and GPU blocks all communicate together, so I think they'll look and behave amazingly. Let's just hope v2.0 actually allows them to LINK instead of have to split!

Im so glad I dont care what my pc looks like. This seems like such a pain in the ass for something I would get really tired of looking at really quick.

Watching people make hardline cooling rigs has both inspired me to make my own, and kept me from making the mistake of making my own. I made one soft tubing rig that I loved, and will be sticking with air cooled or AIO for the remainder of my life. This hardline stuff seems like an intermittent nightmare.