“Okay so jay’s a douche, but he has good ideas” 😂 well spoken my friend. Excellent build and results! Let the war of the [ionic] currents begin. My V2 will need to beat this.

@JsemPO12

Жыл бұрын

Hi plasma channel

@christopherkarr1872

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't be hard, considering the gap spacing in this implementation.

@nefariousyawn

Жыл бұрын

Can either of you speak to the efficiency, or possible efficiency of moving air in this manner vs the usual way? I'm not sure how that would be measured, CFM wattage?

@sarchlalaith8836

Жыл бұрын

I was about to say that this was done first by plasma channel. I love how you guys just mess around though, having a laugh and not taking it seriously.

@christopherkarr1872

Жыл бұрын

@@nefariousyawn It's extremely inefficient. Ionic wind devices would be prevalent if this were an energy-efficient method of producing air-flow. The method of measuring the efficiency would involve a few things - Velocity of the air at the 'exit' of the system, Volume of air moved over time, Wattage of system in normal operating conditions, and a few others. The biggest problem in such a system is the production of chemical reactions within the air, such as creating ozone and nitrogen compounds. Over time, this will cause the system damage, leading to further loss of efficiency and eventual failure. Even so, the fact that such chemical reactions occur shows that energy is being dumped into changing the air, rather than pushing the air.

Video Idea: What about a small jet engine (from a RC airplane) shaft connected to an electric generator? Calibrate it to run on ethanol and you´ll have a carbon free electric generator 🙂 - Also keep in mind that tomatoes are disgusting

@sidoslaven2056

Жыл бұрын

such a great idea, ngl

@richstaubin333

Жыл бұрын

This is a scam.

@computertutorials1286

Жыл бұрын

Welp, someone's getting a free 3D Printer.

@TheyCallMeHacked

Жыл бұрын

Ethanol isn't carbon free though. Recall the reaction equation: C₃H₆O + 4O₂ → 3CO₂ + 3H₂O

@richstaubin333

Жыл бұрын

@@computertutorials1286 no one is getting a 3d printer. I reached out to integza he emailed me back and this was definitely a scam. I see the scammer deleted its comment on here.

I think we should work on building it's outer shell first.. Then we should go over the noiseless jet

@apparitiions

Жыл бұрын

😔

@muhammadowais8838

Жыл бұрын

@@apparitiions why so sad??

@geffpeterson2383

Жыл бұрын

Bot comment

@apparitiions

Жыл бұрын

Seriously tho did you really just sub bot your comment? I find it weird that your comment had 4.7k likes and no comments whatsoever. (until i commented) It’s really sus 🤨 Maybe im thinking too much.

@muhammadowais8838

Жыл бұрын

@@geffpeterson2383 yes I am.the bot 🙃🙃

The secret is airflow. The grids and cathodes need to become increasingly smaller in each stage. I thought criss-crossing the grids would be OK, but it results in turbulence. You also need to create an airfoil on the surfaces in order to achieve optimal airflow.

@ericgriffin6486

Жыл бұрын

with re. to ducting airflow etc, what do you think of incorporating some magnetic pinch and polarization by coiling one of the leads around the ducting, a single coil at first but later I think they could be tuneable at each stage!

@cwwisk

Жыл бұрын

@@ericgriffin6486 I think that inductance would counteract the ionic flow by sort of "squeezing" the fields created by each set of anodes and cathode, but I could be wrong about that. Ducting might be beneficial if you could calculate velocity gain from a narrowing duct and then fine-tune the system in a compromise relative to velocity gain vs loss caused by induced drag. In aerodynamics, there are 4 basic forces: lift, drag, thrust, and gravity. Gravity and lift are not an issue as they will remain constant for the device. Adding surface area within the airflow will create drag and friction, which will slow the flow. Reducing the drag for each stage will optimize the potential flow. If the goal is simply moving air, a duct may not be the right answer. If the goal is directional airflow, it may be the right answer.

@ericgriffin6486

Жыл бұрын

@@cwwisk I am sure improvements could be made by synchronizing magnetic spin in the positive and negative fields and by aligning the ion flow in a negatively charged conduit so that as the particles move through the system and pick up charge they are organized into large ionized particles being accelerated down the center of the fluid body and the smaller unionized particles being forced out of the way by the larger excited particles. it seems possible to me that un-ionized particles being dragged along adjacent to the ionized fluid body might be accelerated and heated to more readily accept ionization. Personally, I am equally interested in what could be done with this tech in a closed system and mixed gas. Could a mixed argon-enriched atmosphere be safely energized and contained to offer to gain atmospheric buoyancy?

@cwwisk

Жыл бұрын

@@ericgriffin6486 this is definitely worth researching. You are right about ionizing the particles, I guess.

@general_prodigy

Жыл бұрын

At that point it's just about ways to increase the speed rather than the basic of the wind being produced in the first place

In order to improve your "bladeless fan" you should space the anode unequally from the cathode. the more you add a stage the more you need to space the anode from the cathode. it make sense because the particles are accelerate at every stage so at every stage they come in with an higher velocity. The same princip is used in the cern accelerator. I hope this will help Sorry for the possible grammar mistakes I'm not English

@shankardivate1041

10 ай бұрын

could you perhaps eleborate here, i am trying to build my self a ion thruster as well

@TlalocTemporal

4 ай бұрын

​@@shankardivate1041-- You want later stages to have faster ions, so they need to be spaced further apart. Same idea as a coilgun.

I guess the next step would be a true bladeless jet engine

@_imnxtxk_

Жыл бұрын

True

@Gabriel.-_-.

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if blowing different types of gases through the fan would affect the Ion wind

@glitchygarden6973

Жыл бұрын

Or a pulsejet.

@Gabriel.-_-.

Жыл бұрын

@Fillip sir. Ramjet doesn't use Ionic wind tho

@godseed7984

Жыл бұрын

Ion purpulsiom

Fabricate a duct to direct the air and then add a Venturi similar to the Dyson to see if you can increase the air speed.

@Teqnyq

Жыл бұрын

@@agent-33 unfortunately it's a game of probability - they will get someone to bite 😔

I love this guys goofiness, the outfit, the way he acts and speaks but it’s still in a way that teaches you stuff. Awesome channel (: stay true to yourself and keep doing what you love!

@darby5987

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Great teacher. With his goofy outfit he is teaching you how to die while working in your shop. How "goofy" will it be when his tie gets caught in the table saw blade? At least his death will be fairly quick assuming he face plants into the blade. If his face misses the blade his death will come in the form of strangulation. He could also get the tie stuck in the drill press thus avoiding the saw blade face plant and not avoiding the strangulation. What fun!

One thing to probably note is that this will generate a lot of Ozone while it's running, probably best to continue your experiments with a fan in the window to circulate air. This is the same principle in which old air purifiers work.

@glennboyd939

Жыл бұрын

Ozone is good unless you're in an enclosed area. It's the gamma rays that are a health hazard. Edit: don't breathe ozone in concentration. It's easy to smell.

@e0478

Жыл бұрын

@@glennboyd939 I recommend you follow that epa link and update your post

@lawabidingcitizen5153

Жыл бұрын

@@glennboyd939 This by definition can't produce gamma rays as there are no decaying atoms, even x-rays aren't a concern since there's simply too much air in the way for the electrons to reach the speeds required to be able to produce x-rays

@glennboyd939

Жыл бұрын

@@lawabidingcitizen5153 any electric arc will produce gamma rays.

@unknown_10453

Жыл бұрын

@@glennboyd939 ozone is bad even in an unenclosed area. It's incredibly toxic

Would be interesting to see how it performs when all stages are encapsulated in a tube (so you do not loose any air flow to the sides). Another idea would be to rotate every second stage by 90° to get more even static pressure across the surface area of the outlet. In addition you could put a nozzle at the end of the outlet to increase air speed.

@butchgarner3911

Жыл бұрын

This is what i was thinking as well, also maybe flared on the intake like a big funnel with the workings in the middle.

@anglerfish61

Жыл бұрын

now youre thinking

@Craigelz

Жыл бұрын

I'd be interested to put an ozone sensor at the output to make sure it's not creating o3 from o2.

@KACPER050599

Жыл бұрын

@@Craigelz corona discharge will definitely generate o3, thats how most o3 generators work

@butchgarner3911

Жыл бұрын

if it was you could probably smell it right off. I may be wrong, just speaking from what I know about my ozone machine...

On a whim, I decided to ask GPT4 if it had some ideas for optimising the design. These are some of the suggestions that seemed to have some merit: Pulsed operation: Operating the thruster in a pulsed mode, rather than continuous mode, can help reduce energy losses. By applying high voltage in short bursts, it is possible to generate strong ion acceleration without creating excessive plasma or initiating unwanted chemical reactions. Optimize dielectric barrier: The dielectric barrier plays an essential role in preventing direct electrical discharge between the electrodes. By optimizing the properties of the dielectric barrier, such as its thickness, permittivity, and breakdown strength, it is possible to minimize energy losses due to plasma generation and chemical reactions. Use of magnetic fields: Incorporating magnetic fields can help guide and confine the ions more effectively, reducing the likelihood of unwanted plasma generation and chemical reactions. This can be achieved by using permanent magnets or electromagnets in the thruster design. Active cooling: Implementing an active cooling system can help maintain optimal operating temperatures for the thruster, reducing the chances of unwanted plasma generation and chemical reactions. This may involve the use of heat sinks, heat pipes, or other cooling methods to dissipate excess heat generated during the thruster's operation.

Love these guys who do all their shop work without ever putting on safety goggles. Five years from now there are going to be a lot of KZreadrs wearing eye-patches.

@catbert7

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's really dumb not to use basic safety gear.

@methos-ey9nf

9 ай бұрын

And the loose necktie...

Maybe if you used grids in descending diameter, inside a cone like shell open on both ends. This might be enough to make use of the Venturi Effect to accelerate your airflow.

@mouserr

Жыл бұрын

nope. the grids should remain the same size or you overload the system and burn out things. the waste of this design is tragic to an embarrassing degree

@retromodernart4426

Жыл бұрын

@@mouserr Do you have a nice video demonstrating your hypothesis?

@owenkegg5608

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, grids being the same size has nothing to do with burning out things... CRTs have had high voltage across irregularly sized grids for literally a century with zero problems. Any sort of amplifier tube ALSO has irregularly sized grids. If you're concerned about overcurrent, that's entirely misplaced since HV grids, especially in just open air, allow very low current flow.

@RustyTaters

Жыл бұрын

I was going to suggest this very same concept.👍🏻

Future Video Idea! 🎉 We want a 3D printed RC vehicle that can travel by air, land and water! 😁

@koiplanez6294

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Back in the 1970s I used a 10,000 volt oil furnace transformer. To make something like that. Glass jar wrapped in 600 volt wire. Inside of jar covered with aluminum foil. You could feel the wind at the top of the jar opening. Still have the transformer. Will have to try your setup. Great video.

@carlosdgutierrez6570

10 ай бұрын

Post a video of the results.

You could use smaller versions of this fan to create a bladeless drone! That would be so cool and would impress Clara for sure!

@jishan6992

Жыл бұрын

Ionic wind is not that powerful tho

@j.a.p.818

Жыл бұрын

I have made this same suggestion at least two times in the past. I agree good project idea. Good luck.

@giin97

Жыл бұрын

@@jishan6992 it can be that powerful, but it requires more power. US Air Force did some experimentation in the 60's, got a system to work, but it required a small nuclear reactor to generate sufficient thrust :P

@jishan6992

Жыл бұрын

@@giin97 my point still stands then? By making it powerful enough it clearly becomes non-practical

@fholiday

Жыл бұрын

THIS!!!! I would love to see this.

Technically, it is not only a bladeless fan but also a particle accelerator. That would be an interesting development :)

@jacobhargiss3839

Жыл бұрын

Technically, a regular fan is a particle accelerator.

@tvrkm6897

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobhargiss3839 Technically, @Integza is also a particle accelerator.

@monad_tcp

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobhargiss3839 a particle accelerator has to use electric fields, no wait, damit

@olivarra1

Жыл бұрын

and an ozone generator too

It's a great idea. Especially if you want to slowly dissolve what the fan is pointed at. Mind the ozone, Integza!

@Christopher-yn3sk

Жыл бұрын

👍😄

@benshakespeare268

Жыл бұрын

@Integza like a few people have mentioned here, ozone generation is a real concern here. You would have noticed a strange electrical smell while this operated? That is ozone and it occurs naturally in low levels, however breathing high levels is definitely bad for your health.

@JoeBlow-zr2ru

Жыл бұрын

This was my first thought too ... nice poisonous gas generator! 🤣 But cool science project. Just be careful with high voltages and toxic gases.

@alexanderthomas2660

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have a commercial version of this, whose purpose is not really to generate wind but to catch fine dust in the air. It is placed close to my FFF 3D printer in order to catch the nasty burnt stuff that results from the printing process, and it is actually pretty good at that. But what it is best at, is generating ozone. In the large room where the printer is, this is not really a concern because I also avoid being near the printer for long while it is operating. But leaving this device turned on in a small room for an extended time is a bad idea, unless you want to completely nuke all the fungal spores.

@benshakespeare268

Жыл бұрын

Health issues aside, it's worth mentioning that ozone interacts with organic compounds. So as well as fungal spores and lung tissue, it's also petroleum based products like some plastics and particularly rubber. Constant exposure to ozone will gradually brake down these compounds until they eventually fail. Periodic use of ozone generators is generally acceptable as the gas will mostly interact with the organic compounds on the surface and not so much parts themselves.

I was relieved to discover you did these experiments with the garage door open. ...also every great scientist needs a Clara in their life for encouragement and inspiration 😉

I use vacuum pumps/chambers a lot and using this type of air flow is a way of pulling an even stronger vacuum. Pushes air molecules towards the output to be removed.

Biggest fan here, out of every dangerous episode, nothing makes me more nervous than that tie so close to power tools, stay safe my tuga friend!! Keep inspiring the next generation and entertaining us all 😊

@8546Ken

Жыл бұрын

Replace the tie with a bow tie.

@rons96

Жыл бұрын

Me too!!!! Lol

@gayusschwulius8490

Жыл бұрын

@@8546Ken Or a security tie that can't strangle you, security guards wear those.

@larrybud

Жыл бұрын

@@gayusschwulius8490 Not about strangling. If that tie hit that table saw, his head could be pulled right down into the blade. Absolute stupidity to wear it while using a table saw.

@gayusschwulius8490

Жыл бұрын

@@larrybud Yes, of course, I only wanted to say why security guards wear security ties.

Several tips to improve the fan: 1. Use a high grain sandpaper instead of razor. It will create more "sharpy" surface on the wires and should improve the performance by 10-20% 2. Use aerodynamics optimized design for enclosure. First easy way to do this - close the sides of your fan. Secondly, you can use wing-like curved casing (like in duct fans) on the side where air gets in - it will create low pressure zones and will help to suck air in more easily. With all this tweaks you'll go beyond 20m/s for sure. P.S. Also, instead of rods, you can just use one drop shaped smooth copper piece to improve air flow. Or just make the rods drop shaped.

@ImmortanJoeCamel

Жыл бұрын

Possibly. This "fan" has multiple drive stages. It could be possible to take more advantage of the Bernoulli principle to pull more air in for each stage. But it's really a balance of velocity vs. volume.

@jacobhargiss3839

Жыл бұрын

You wouldnt really want to encolse this. Since each stage adds in surounding air, cutting that supply off would make a serious bottle neck.

@vedritmathias9193

Жыл бұрын

#2 would be.... Venturi effect, no?

@deathofallthingspotato9919

Жыл бұрын

I'm also curious if there is some fun to be had by lighting a flame near the input, as this would pre-ionise the air somewhat, which may help the high voltage to pull the air - although it might do nothing, or cause arcing. If not a flame, then some other way of mildly ionising the air.

@Victor-056

Жыл бұрын

...I think a loop of wire works pretty well. The original Ionic Levitator uses a loop of wire that does not interfere with the airflow.

Love it! As has already been mentioned, careful with the tie around spinning tools 😉👍🏻

I just noticed that you are using cylinders as the ground terminals for the bladeless fan, and I think that changing the shape to aerofoils actually might increase the flow speed, thereby giving the air more energy when it separates from the ground. Sure, it would complicate building, but the improvements probably could be worth it.

IDEA#1: Instead of the thin wire going straight across, wrap the thin wire in a coil around a thin insulator about the thickness of a toothpick. (basically replace each thin wire with a coil of thin wire - to get more surface area). score the coils across with a sharp blade like you did for the wires on opposite sides perpendicular to the the plane of ionic motion and score it the direction of motion (don't score the back). This will cause the pointy fields to pull in more ions of air than a single wire (kind of like a dyson fan) to amplify the effect (for the positive ions). Basically, you will play around with the laminar flow.

@thatSkyKosmoTactical

Жыл бұрын

I wish this comment to rise higher in the ranks. Help men

@thatSkyKosmoTactical

Жыл бұрын

@Alex Smith good point

Future video idea: Improvements to the generator: 1. Use iron shavings on the wires to increase surface area 2. Use springs instead of straight wire 3. Make a loop of ionic generators so they cascade in such a way to get super high speed (ie infinite stages like a resonator)

@greenaum

Жыл бұрын

Incandescent light bulbs used a "coiled coil" for their element wire. That is, you coil wire like a spring, to create a very long floppy spring. Then you take that long spring, and put IT around a rod to make it coiled again. A coiled coil. It's a way of getting lots of length of wire into a small space, useful in light bulbs where the hot wire makes the light. Man, can you believe those were the light bulbs the entire WORLD used up until the 1990s? So wasteful, heating tungsten all over the place! Now it's all 5 watt LEDs instead of 60 watt hot wires! The colour rendition is crap, tungsten's was very good. But still, LEDs cost almost nothing to run, it was worth it.

I would like to see your take on the ionic levitator from that video. Acoustic levitation also seems pretty cool where small objects can be lifted only by the power if sound waves. Keep up the good work!

@weirdlookingbologna9484

Жыл бұрын

agreed

My sons and I have a few ideas. - how do sling rockets work can we apply that knowledge to something around our house? - how can you combine two engines on one vehicle? - can you make a water rocket that would carry a human?

Question: How much power did this bladeless fan use? This is just to compare efficiency of a standard fan or "bladeless" fan. Would be interesting.

@DiabloVal

Жыл бұрын

+1

@andersson.l.e

Жыл бұрын

+1

Try connecting the wire grid with the tubes of the stage before it. At the moment you are creating a backwards wind between stages. You increased the distance between the stages wich reduce it but you could stack them back to back if there is no voltage potential between the stages

@suddeneevee9441

Жыл бұрын

I think it is better to use ground/neutral and positive charges. Neutral makes the molecules, well, neutral. And positive can remove electrons, making it charged. Wich is then reppelled by the wire with charged it. A neutral molecule has no 'sense' of electric fields. And with this setup you get P-N-P-N-etc. So there need to be spacing since each P pushes charge in either direction. But further distances have weaker fields, so having P-N-[space]-P-N-[space]-etc. Makes wind go one way. The larger the space, the more effective, but it also becomes bulkier. So if I had to guess, an alternating positive and negative with a larger spacing 2 or 4× the size of the smaller one seems good. But the spacing ratio is just a guess.

@JasonMitchellofcompsci

Жыл бұрын

@@suddeneevee9441 Buttered side down is right. Your suggestion is basically the same configuration as before. If he just grounds them where would he put the negative lead from his power supply? Also to "ground". That's the same setup.

@suddeneevee9441

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonMitchellofcompsci The idea is that the negative of the supply is ground/neutral. So the charge at the negative of the supply is at 0V, while the positive is at a positive voltage. Ground isn't carrying any current, it is just there to keep the negative side neutral.

@xxportalxx.

Жыл бұрын

@@suddeneevee9441 or you could say that the positive lead is ground/neutral at 0v and the negative is at a large negative potential, -V lmfao. Physically identical. The only thing of importance here is the electric field produced by the potential difference.

@dekutree64

Жыл бұрын

Even better, combine the collector for one stage and emitter for the next into a single streamlined tube with sharp trailing edge. Perhaps serrated from the cutter on the aluminum foil box :) Alternate polarity on each stage so you don't get any reverse wind.

Love the videos, I would love to see a fully FDM printed project or a tomato smasher that uses magnets.

Brutal, como sempre! Continua o excelente trabalho.

I always thought it would be really cool to build one of these into a Tesla valve. Imagine the internal "teardrop"-like shapes as the high-voltage elements, either alternating positive/negative, or having the "points" of the main structure as the positive element, and the "teardrops" as the negative elements. I've actually had the idea in my head for while. Though I'm not *sure* when it first came to me, but I got really excited when I saw your video, because I think you'd be able to pull it off. You'd be the PERFECT rogue engineer for the job! I know how unlikely you'd settle on my idea for development, but how cool would it be if you DID?! At any rate, I simply had to share my idea, to put it out in the world. Maybe it will inspire someone else, even if not yourself. Cheers, and keep up the great work! Your projects and videos just keep getting better!

You can build a wind tunnel to use along with your bladeless fan. Wind tunnels rely on laminar flow to work properly, and this thing looks like it can generate a good laminar flow. It would be a cool integration of two projects. Nice work!

@greenaum

Жыл бұрын

Yeah except it'd spit lightning everywhere and toast any electronics nearby. Probably a great big fan and some tubes is still the best way to get laminar airflow.

@amentco8445

Жыл бұрын

@@greenaum Would using some more plastic as a tube not avoid this?

@necrobynerton7384

Жыл бұрын

@@greenaum EMPs that big of a problem? Maybe shielding?

You'll definitely have to turn this concept into a full fan that you could use all the time, that'll be awesome to see

@wally7856

Жыл бұрын

Did you see all the plasma being formed on the grid when the lights were turned down? That plasma would be reacting with the 02 (oxygen) in the air to create o3 (ozone). Not something you want to breathe in every day as ozone is poisonous to your lung tissue and at elevated concentrations for prolonged periods of time can cause permanent damage. It's great at eliminating odors though so would be great to freshen up a car interior.

It would be interesting to see what different blade shapes do on a fan or if you used actual airfoils for the blades.

The round Pipes actually introduce a lot of drag. Try to give them an airfoil design. The biggest amount of air resistance comes from the turbulence behind the tubes, that's why in the original image they are only round on one side and pointed in the other.

Video idea: make a turbocharged camp fire

@johnmcwick1

10 ай бұрын

I saw your idea and I wish it had more likes lol

bro this is only legit my 2nd video and i have enjoyed both, i applaud as I really wanna take on engineering and want to give it a really bright image for motivation, again I applaud you, Sir Integza

Try enclosing the assembly so you make a wind tunnel type thing with an inlet and outlet. In the inlet try adding a bell mouth to improve inlet flow and reduce drag.

Real engineering has a fantastic video about a MIT team that powered a tiny plane using something very similar, so you could potentially track down a paper or two on the concepts. Also ion engines are very similar and fairly common in the space industry, so there is likely plenty of papers available on those too. Good work as always!

I wonder what effect (if any) rotating every other set of wire and tubes by 90 degrees would have? Or maybe even a gradual rotation throughout the stack. Would be interesting to see if you could create a vortex...

Got me thinking about the number of scratches on the wires. There’s a fine line between polishing and scratching. If you hit it with a really course scotch-bite pad to get thousands of tiny microscopic scratches would that do anything or if the discharge nodes have to have a bigger surface area than that. If the size does matter, maybe a stranded wire through a dowel where you fray the ends of the wire and run it on slow could be a way to get slightly bigger scratches.

About the flyback transformer from the TV, it has a built in rectifier diode, because CRTs work with DC also. They should put out around 25 - 30 kV DC.

I remember Mythbusters making an ionic lifter ages ago when doing myths around levitation, and they mentioned the ionization of air creates ozone, which apparently isn't good for you to breathe, so try to be careful with using that thruster as a "bladeless fan".

It would be interesting to see how well the ionic bladless fan would work as the driver for the oval shaped diffuser on the Dyson "bladeless" fan.

@weezyy1945

Жыл бұрын

@Duck I don't believe this would produce enough ozone for it to be dangerous

I really liked it and I will explore this research to use in other projects. Very cool congratulations!!!!

you can use iridium spark plug tip to increase ions, higher voltage always increase air speed, coanda effect also helps as in dyson fan

When I saw you take the fly back transformer off the motherboard, all I could feel was a deep sense of pride. I am so proud of your growth Integza. You have taken the art of tomato hating to a whole new level. Keep learning and stay safe.

From a safety standpoint, wearing a tie while doing woodwork (especially with any rotating saw) could end in catastrophe. One of the few lessons I remember from high school.

Reminds me of the 'Ionic Breeze' bladeless fan and air purifier that was put out by Sharper Image back in the early 2ks.

@Lazy-Monkey

Жыл бұрын

@OfficialIntegza Oh thank you for the scam! It's just what I wanted to start out the new year. I'll be sure to dox myself to you soon.

this mans here doing reckless science while having a face thats built for physical comedy... and that there is some kind of special combination. i love it.

Very cool concept and great results! You should try doing a smoke test with your bladeless fan, I think it would look interesting!

@alfonsmuller2318

Жыл бұрын

Great idea. He could also submit it to the fan showdown!

@tof22

Жыл бұрын

Plasma is also usefull for cleaning air of very small particules as fumes and dust.

@adriand00

Жыл бұрын

smoketest like in software development or smoketest as in aerodynamics reasearch? please be the second one

@alfonsmuller2318

Жыл бұрын

@@adriand00 smoke test like getting a smoke machine and blowing some smoke through it. This makes the airflow visible. The vaporizer from that hipster friend we all have will do fine too.

@TonyHammitt

Жыл бұрын

Is smoke machine smoke in any way flammable? Because if anything could set it on fire, it'd be this rig

For air handling, you'll want to create a duct for the air to travel through with minimal losses, i.e. put the contraption in a tube. You have a lot of interaction with the outside air via the sides right now. Plus you can drastically increase the air speed by putting a simple nozzle at the end of the stack.

@LeutnantComanderData

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU. maybe even passive air intake along the way ? maybe chamfered air intake too. thinking of maybe even .... nozzle and butane injection for afterburner ? make this a fuel "efficient" "jet/rocket" engine of some sort ?? haha

Amazing Video ;) tryied it by my selfe and it works!!! thank you so much!

This is as a sick project! I love this channel!

For a future video: it would be interesting to see if you can get the power to weight ratio to a point where you could control multiple fans individually and make an "ion copter"

@reaganharder1480

Жыл бұрын

Well... Your craft would have to be incredibly light. I suspect it could probably be optimized to a point of being able to lift some control electronics, but getting the power supply off the ground I'm pretty doubtful of.

@mrbmp09

Жыл бұрын

Not going to happen, a few milligrams of thrust would be difficult to achieve.

@markdarragh6620

Жыл бұрын

You’ll never achieve the needed thrust to weight ratio for atmospheric flight. But ion drives could be applicable for space flight.

@KaiHenningsen

Жыл бұрын

@@markdarragh6620 Ion drives are used a lot in space flight, actually.

@tacotaquero1680

Жыл бұрын

not really possible, it was only done in a plane and it was tiny and made out of wood

Design a wind turbine having Tubercles on the leading edge of it's blades. It has greater efficiency than simple blade turbines...

Nice safety tie! Colin Furze would be proud 🙂

I haven't tried this, but you'd probably get better results if you switch to an ultra thin tungsten filament. Cut them into strips, then stand them up like hairs in an array. You may have to coat the wire in lacquer or varnish before cutting to only get the arc coming out the tips.

I'm sure many people have said this before, but you should consider wearing eye protection when working with machining equipment. I used to work at a brewery and when pressing bottlecaps on bottles with a press, a shard of glass or metal flew off, bounced off the table and flew right underneath the rim of my eyeglasses and into my eye. I got lucky and didn't get any permanent damage, but after that I've always worn protective glasses in those situations. Sure, could have flown under that too, but it protects from a lot! Anyway, GREAT video! ❤️

@platypusdreamtime

Жыл бұрын

Wearing a tie is also a good way to get your head pulled rapidly towards the various sharp spinning things. Is it worth it just for the sake of fashion? If you really must wear a tie then please consider using a tie clip.

@richstaubin333

Жыл бұрын

Please contact integza there is a scammer in the comments. Look for comments with just one or two replies. It says you win a 3d printer

This is really interesting! I have so many questions; 1. How does the power consumption fair against a regular fan with similar power? 2. Is the air it produces warmer than the ambient room temperature? 3. What’s the noise level compared to similar regular fan? Also, could the same concept be used to make a bladed motorless fan? Great work as always!

@retromodernart4426

Жыл бұрын

Answer to number 2 - it's cooler, due to 'electrostatic cooling'.

@naasking

Жыл бұрын

It's also toxic due to the ozone it produces. They use ozone generators like this to sterilize rooms.

It’s adorable that you build an entire woodworking project in a classic 1930s tux and tie 🤵‍♂️

I'm late to this comment section, but it seems like what you mainly need are air guides. That's one of the things that the dyson products typically do well and you can do easily with a 3d printer or just paper(probably wanna line it with that aluminum insulating tape in this case, so it doesn't catch fire).

Can you make a wind tunnel? So that in the future you can see how your projects' aereodynamic behave Is it possible ? This is my video idea Hope to see more videos from you Love y Integza

Integza, you are essentially the sole content creator that has gotten me into my passion of engines as a whole! Thank you! Also Video Idea: I would love to see you make a thermo acoustic engine! It seems right in your alleyway.

@Lulu-bx6ry

Жыл бұрын

@Dev 2022 Hi!

You should use a dyson "bladeless fan" and replace the original motor with the fan you build. So you can maximize the air flow with the coanda effect and entrainment. Also maybe the wind will be faster when you hat up the negative wire so the electrones can get easier out.

@lostboytnt1

Жыл бұрын

FAAAAKE

that was awesome!!

Hello Integza! I'm only 12 but I really like all your experiments! To win a 3D printer sounds great and could help me to make my own projects like you do. I have no influence on it, but I've got an idea for your next video. Can you make a plasma popper? You could shoot to your hated tomatoes ;-) It looks fantastic, especially in the dark and slow motion, and make a lot of fun. If you really build one, I'm shure that your video would help me to build my own small plasma popper. Have a nice day! I can't wait for your next video!😃👍

Definitely should do a collaboration with electroboom to test the "child safety" characteristics of the fan design.

@spider-juan1568

Жыл бұрын

yeah

@309electronics5

8 ай бұрын

​@@retromodernart4426dont say that! He is super smart and he stages the blunders to teach people in a fun way what not to do with electronics he seems dumb on camera but in rl he is smart and knows what he is doing

@retromodernart4426

8 ай бұрын

@@309electronics5 Yeah, that comment was not nice, I deleted it, thanks for pointing that out.

How this could be used in real world applications would be a video I would love to see! Truly amazing technology 👍💯

Lifters don't use copper wire, but ionising wire, which I think is steel or tungsten. You could also use permanent magnets to speed up the flow.

here’s an idea, try changing the distance from the two “dishes” and see how that effect performance. in addition to that try getting more voltage through it. if possible I’d also try different size wires and tubes, maybe using tin foil would work better instead of the tubing for sets in series. love the videos man, keep it up!

I think the best improvement for the Ionic Bladeless Fan would be to make it a Ducted Bladeless fan so that the Air stream would be confined and Accelerated by each stage without loss or turbulence from the sides. simply enclosing it in a clear tube would help, and still let you see what's happening inside. making a tube that exactly matches the inner diameter of the printed frames in sections and then sealing it all together would be even better

@InsufficientGravitas

Жыл бұрын

Even better it could be integrated into one of the "bladeless fans" to make use of the phenomenon they use.

@xXShadDragXx

Жыл бұрын

Every build of ionic thrusters I have seen is open. I think overall the stages aren't strong enough. The first stage couldn't push enough air to feed the next and so on starving the thruster without being able to pull air in from the sides on each stage.

@PlasmaChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@xXShadDragXx that was the issue I had a well.

@p1p3

Жыл бұрын

​@@PlasmaChannelAn interesting experiment would be to vary the size of the stages to prevent starving the later stages

Take a look at how the Dyson fan is configured. Especially the air flow. You can also check the design principles of a scram jet.

It would be really interesting to see how powerful or efficient you can make this concept. For how simple the concept is, there’s surprisingly little information on this online.

You could try to make an RC airplane with a motor type from all the ones you have made so far. Let's see a practical application of a motor

Congratulations. These lifters were one of my early passions. 🤩 I really wish they weren't subject to some of the physical limitations with higher energies and sizes. Otherwise these would be amazing in aircraft. If you're going to keep working on this, there's all kinds of room for improvement in your design. Surface along your flow channel is one of the critical factors you need to optimize in the absorption. Time is the critical absorption Factor not space. If you want optimized emission grids, I recommend looking at something called hardware cloth. It's a pre-woven wire mesh that will give you structure as well as increased emission surface. I also recommend hitting it with a coarse grit sandpaper. It's a lot less work than the razor but does the same thing

@mouserr

Жыл бұрын

meh id expect better advice from someone who claims to have a passion for these things

Love your Nanami Kento cosplay.

Integza, you always ask for soldering tips, so, one you already have have: soldering paste, this is not enough. you need a clean stained soldering iron tip to work with the paste. Use a copper sponge (palha de cobre, para os intimos) to clean the tip before each soldering. Make sure you have a shiny tip to make the solder

You may want to use a crosscut sled on the tablesaw to cut longer pieces. A riving knife on the blade helps, but if the angle of the wood comes off at all it can fling the wood back at you and pull your fingers toward the blade. Love your videos ❤

@DylanRiordan

Жыл бұрын

Yea, one little twist and those fingers are gone. Careful man.

@FarceeTheFire

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, kickback is no joke. I still have a cuboid-shaped scar on my abdomen from tablesaw kickback

@clarkcase1059

Жыл бұрын

And maybe ditch the tie - I wants to wrap itself up in the machinery and pull your head into the blade.

@TremereTT

Жыл бұрын

This is a Einhell table saw... it's basically a noname brand used by hardware stores to sell to people who need a tool that lasts about one project....It's not a real tool you would want to buy spare parts or modules for. If you buy an other table saw blade chances are the table saw blade would outlast the livetime of the Einhell tablesaw.

@FarceeTheFire

Жыл бұрын

@@TremereTT Even still, it's incredibly easy to make a crosscut sled or slide from scraps. Even a cheap tool can be dangerous, it doesn't take a lot of power to hurt a person.

Build idea: make a jet engine using household items. You could use HHO as fuel. A HHO generator is pretty easy to make with stuff found in a kitchen

@kingmasterlord

Жыл бұрын

an electrolysis compressor built into the stock of a pellet gun. no more pumping

@5failedbubbleo489

Жыл бұрын

You are the future winner i think 🤔

@sigmamale4147

Жыл бұрын

Safety idea: dont store or send the oxygen and hydrogen through the same duct/tank

@WilliamHollinger2019

Жыл бұрын

I want an gasoline engine to run almost forever with hydrogen.

@trailswithtyler7427

Жыл бұрын

@@sigmamale4147 with my experience having a flashback arrester should help a lot but ya probably not the best idea to have them mixed

I would like to see what happens if you swap the cylindrical tubs for ones that have an air foil shape. It would also be cool to see if you could increase velocity by adding a cowling around the intake and inclosing the rest. Maybe add some holes to the enclosed part to allow the Venturi effect to pull more air in.

Your videos are really cool the only downside i see is the eventual meltdown of plastic parts(past engine designs), here is an idea for you: put your brains into making the most compact fuelcell, which anybody can make at home. Use any of the styles: PEM, Alkaline, or solid oxide

I’m happy to see someone finally make this. This was in my journal for the longest time.

Well since you want more flow speed what you could do is actually copy the Dyson fan, use the ionic thrusters as the base of the fan and point them up, and use a round diffuser to make use of bernoullis principle and have faster flow (a flow that passes through a lattice will create a low pressure area and will moce faster), also this way you can control hhe flow of air and increase the efficiency of the fan. Another way to imrove this setup is also to instead of using strings that go across to use a flat spiral of wire, like the shape of a conduction heater, and use perhaps smaller tubes to achive more surface area and to pregent the tubes from slowing down the air due to drag.

Use it in your RDE to increase air flow rate Also place the the grids at some angle to rotate the air flow or genrating vortex which will help your RDE to gain momentum

Enclose the blades on a tube, narrow the final output to increase pressure, mount the whole thing on a model boat and it makes a nice bladeless swamp buggy.

I played a lot with the 'Lifters' when I was young and even killed one TV. On your drawing you showed that the second part should be a bit round but you took very thick tubes. I would recommend the Idea from the 'Lifter' and use something that is round at the beginning and then flat so you dont have that much resistance on the airflow. The Aluminium Foil (or copper plates) have to be bent over a round surface and then straight down. That will increase the pull on the plasma. You could even increase the effect when you use a increasing voltage on each stage (and a larger gap) because the wind on the second stage is already accelerated. When you have enough stages you will end up with someting like an linear accelerater.

If it makes wind it also produces thrust. Sounds like you have to make TIE fighter now!

@lio1234234

Жыл бұрын

I believe this technology can produce thrust even without the wind component. Ionic propulsion I believe it's called

darn your Christmas music! Thanksgiving forever!🔥💯

Definitely need to make a hover board. Can even make a series out of the idea. Such as what type of engine/fan makes for the most efficient hover board. jet engine? ionic fan? Or maybe even a combination there of.

1) try scraping the anode wire a bit more 2) try hooking it up with an air multiplier( like the one your Dyson blade less fan use) 3)try uneven spacing for each generator module instead of keeping the them all equal 4) a curved pyramid like housing could help in more concentrated air at the outlet like the one used in a jet nozzle And for a theme suggestion for the next video a wingless aircraft with the principle of ionic wind and magnetohydrodynamic propulsion doesn't sound bad Anyway love your videos as always and got to know so many things from your videos

What about a ferrofluid control system for a video idea? You create ferrofluid, use solenoids/magnets to move it around a torus shape to induce a torque for attitude control for satellites.

@angryguysangryguys9537

Жыл бұрын

Thats a freaking cool idea!

@TmanTrickShots

Жыл бұрын

@@angryguysangryguys9537 Thanks!

@tobiwonkanogy2975

Жыл бұрын

I like this idea for a switch application as well. electrically insulated until the ferro fluid moves.

@Intgza I recommend you making/getting a tie tack. While you were operating your powered equipment I was worried that your very cool looking tie might get caught in the works. Fortunately it did not. 😀😀 Great content BTW. Thank you. 🍻🥓🖖🏻

At 1:20 the flame from the candle is also moving because the positively charged plasma is attracted to the negative high voltage, I'm not sure but it might be the only reason why it's moving, since I'm not sure that would generate enough wind.

This is like the ion thrusters NASA uses in space. You gotta send something to space for a future video, you’re already so close!

Build idea: Would be cool to see some sort of drone or RC plane build with bladeless fans ✈

@seskalarafey9285

Жыл бұрын

or an Hovercraft Power. This is way lighter then the Old Turboprop Fans they are using to create the Air cushion effect, right? Mr. Tom Stanton are you reading here? :)

@murmenaattori6

Жыл бұрын

The MIT has done this already, search for example 'Ion Wind Plane'.

@nissearmentv5769

Жыл бұрын

​@@murmenaattori6 that's true - I've watched them all :D I just think there is much more to this topic and that we'll see a lot more to bladeless aircrafts in the future. What Joel just did with this video is not that different from what MIT has done with their gliders etc. Every video is pushing to the boundary of this these days and I want to see much more of it.

Just an FYI, the geometry of the dyson bladeless actually multiplies the airflow of the small blades. The obvious next step would be to use this ion fan to power that same type of geometry.

U could do a leafblower like the ones used in gardening, a lot of that systems in a tube. Hugs