Having owned the Xperia play personally the best part of it is that it was not only moddable but highly overclockable (mine ran stable at 1.8-2 GHz) and there is an app you can download for PC that converts PS1 games to run on the inbuilt Sony emulator. All controls worked perfectly.

@blunderingfool

9 ай бұрын

And to think, the PSP runs at 222/333mhz depending on the game.

@marcbusby3625

9 ай бұрын

@@blunderingfool slightly different running native code on the PSP vs emulating it but I can see your point. This was a very capable phone once overclocked but at the time it came out most flagship androids where moving to dual cores so it quickly got outclassed. In saying that PS1 games smoothly emulated on it even at its stock clocks which was all the more impressive (and kept battery life reasonable)

@blunderingfool

9 ай бұрын

@@marcbusby3625 I was more slagging off my Radiant Red PSP 3000. Don't worry. ;P

@rowaystarco

9 ай бұрын

The PS1 support was pretty cool on this device. These days most phones can run PS1 via emulation, but not back then. My biggest issue with it was the lack of at least one proper analog stick (instead of those touch fields). Also, I had a PSP and it got the job done.

@oliver7416

9 ай бұрын

Damn thats so cool. I remember how much i wanted this phone when it released, but I could not afford it

Linus constantly discovering how cheap phones used to be is so funny.

@littlebuch

9 ай бұрын

I think he means it in the other way... He factors in inflation meaning that most of those phones were expensive af

@wlan2

9 ай бұрын

They weren't cheap at that time, especially for the value and benefits. Think about inflation.

@Henrix1998

9 ай бұрын

​@@littlebuchif the prices were corrected they would be even cheaper

@G0A7

9 ай бұрын

@@Henrix1998 229$ in 2003 is 384.53$ today, so its more expensive

@rowaystarco

9 ай бұрын

Inflation is a thing. Games are one of the few things that wasn't hit by inflation for many many years. If regular price inflation hit games, they would cost 100 bucks now. That's why they started pushing DLCs, loot crates and so on instead.

As someone who is somewhat of a PSP fanatic, the Xperia Play is such a cool device. I remember being super jealous of a classmate who used to have one. Also very interesting how much they borrowed from the PSP Go for the physical design

@therunawaykid6523

Ай бұрын

I briefly had an Xperia play but found it too Chunky to carry everyday as a phone in my pocket also was quite a weight when moving around with it in pocket all the time ended up selling it and got the much thinner Samsung galaxy s2 😉

@HenryVarn

17 күн бұрын

I remember wanting one so bad, even though I was a nintendo handheld fanboy as a tween.

You feel kinda old watching this video and remembering the majority of those phones 😅 Sidenote about Nokia - they were just so big at the time that they could do all kinds of crazy phones, the lipstick one was from a series ''La Fleur'' if I remember correctly, all of them were kind weird like that, but considered very cool at the time

I had one of those Sony Play phones, it was amazing! Linus missed the fact that it came with a custom version of Minecraft which fully worked with the buttons and it also had a store for other popular games which had the controls integrated, it was great!

@serialexperimentsdave7213

9 ай бұрын

yours had Minecraft pre-installed? I had Crash Bandicoot but no Minecraft. Hmm I wonder if it was a regional thing

@ArtForSwans

9 ай бұрын

IIRC (it was freaking ages ago so I may be remembering wrong) but Minecraft Pocket Edition came out first on the Xperia Play and only came to other devices later. So it was genuinely the first device to get what would eventually become Bedrock Edition.

@Wess_A

9 ай бұрын

It was my first smartphone and I absolutely loved it!

@TamNgo84

9 ай бұрын

I had the Play when it first came out back when I was a big Sony guy. It was a really good phone especially for emulation. I would play PS1 and GB games on it. The only thing that wasn't so great was the "analog sticks". Really, at around that same time, the Vita came out (which I still have in my possession) and seriously didn't understand why they couldn't have built that OS into the phone. Sure, it would have been missing like, all the apps, but a Vita that you had with you at all times seemed like such a real thing that should have happened.

@ItsHatlolOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Fun fact: Minecraft pocket edition was actually exclusive to this phone for a while

It's crazy to realize how far tech has come when you do videos like these

@a1r592

9 ай бұрын

It actually makes me realize how little innovation there has been. Like, sure it's faster, but at least back then companies were willing to take a risk by trying out something new.

@IdentifiantE.S

9 ай бұрын

Its really really impressive tbh

@sladehunter

9 ай бұрын

@a1r592 uh samsung literally takes risk all the time. It wasn't that long ago that they risked a big phone that was mocked. Today, everyone adopted it. Samsung took a risk with the Z Fold, etc. It payed off. LG relied too much on risks. They no longer make phones.

@orange_handle

9 ай бұрын

@@a1r592 cuz its already innovated till perfection, what else do you want from a phone?

@DxTrixterz

9 ай бұрын

Especially when you now have phones like Fold which can work as phone, tablet and even mini laptop. Basically a pocket PC.

I feel deceived, that isn't Linus' hand in the thumbnail photo.

I loved this episode. Brought back memories of all the Pre-Smartphone Era mobile phones I used to own. I had a variety of Nokias, Sony's and Motorolas growning up. The 2 phones I remember most fondly fom those early days where the Sony Ericsson K800i and the Nokia N95-2, which was the Black version and I think I remeber it being pre-loaded with a full movie on it (I think Spiderman or something like that) 😁

@HonklerUnitedInc

5 ай бұрын

my first nokia was the very first MP3 phone they released that version later on got changed to become the nokia n gage! the nokia 3300

@pierssegal5910

4 ай бұрын

Those two were fantastic phones.

I worked at a mobile phone retailer for 15 years starting in the early 2000s, I not only remember but used, sold and set up every single one of these phones over the years... aah, memories.

@garbanzogarvin

9 ай бұрын

@@chutcentral lmb

@painreliever83

9 ай бұрын

@@chutcentral Jealousy is an ugly colour my friend.

@davidboltbear147

9 ай бұрын

My brother had the Playstation phone and it hard to use now

@painreliever83

9 ай бұрын

@@davidboltbear147 It wasn't much easier when it was new 😂

@paishocajun

9 ай бұрын

a few of these were before my time or outside of my offerings but i very much sold the echo and play station phone at RadioShack back in the day

Would have been nice to have someone there to explain the phones after Linus was done guessing and exploring. Seems like there's a lot of cool stuff going on in each phone that's being glossed over.

@adwaitgoku27

9 ай бұрын

Watch Mr. Mobile's 'When Phones Were Fun' series. He does cover most of the phones that they had here, and goes in deep for a few phones.

@lukasnielsen1034

9 ай бұрын

Get dankpods in for a collab 🤩

@s8wc3

9 ай бұрын

@@lukasnielsen1034 He would just tell you about how much of a smelly dingusnug the phones are

@uzetaab

9 ай бұрын

I remember most of these phones, or ones like them. Honestly, he managed to figure out the most interesting things about them. Although yeah, some of them are interesting enough that they could have had a video all to themselves.

@caodesignworks2407

9 ай бұрын

Having had a couple of these, the most interesting thing about these phones, and most old phones in general, was the shape of the phone. The only notable exception would be something like the phone with WinMo on it since there were a ton of apps you could get for it and, like windows desktop, it was very customizable. It's biggest downfall was the power of mobile chips of the time would often mean the display was kind of laggy at times. Other than that, the rest were just standard phone software outside of the playstation phone.

Can confirm the N93 was an amazing camera. First phone camera I owned that allowed me to take a picture of both pages of my school book and be able to read the text on all of it. Previously I had to take a pic of one at a time. Saved me loads of time and effort carrying my text books home.

Linus: Should i get this rectangle or this rectangle...or should i rather have this... Me: **Pauses** **with full mouth** A bin of phones

The funky Nokia shapes absolutely did sell massively. Most people had standard brick phones but there were bragging rights with having one of the weird or high end ones. Phones didn't do much and designs were so varied that a weird keypad wasn't really a problem

@aritakalo8011

9 ай бұрын

Yeah. It was a fashion accessory. Not like it was meant for every day user. Those leafs and lipstick phones were something one would see with fashion models and rich people who wanted something fashionable. Probably not even their only phone. Plus the classic: if you are rich enough, you don't need a complex phone with lot of features to get stuff done. That is what the always hanging around personal assistant is for. The VIP couldn't text for the death of them on their lipstick jog wheel. They didn't need to, they had an assistant with communicator or other big productivity phone to text around organizing bosses day and ordering stuff. All bos needs is a phone with phone book (maintained by PA) and call and answer buttons. You call other people you care to talk to and answer friends and other important peoples call. Would every small town have person for such phone? No, but Nokia had global reach. Globally they would absolutely sell thousands of even the lipstick oddities. Plus those were statement phones by makers. Engineering and design statements. There was a war going on for example for *smallest* phone. Not the today's, who makes biggest blank. Exact opposite. Lead to stuff like the Nokia Zippo model (nick named as such for being about size of zippy lighter, big feat at the time.) and the lipstick model. I was little surprised hey didn't have the taco talk N-gage for this round up.

@ayporos

9 ай бұрын

Reasonable people bought the reasonable Nokia phones. I owned a Nokia N95 8gb... I still consider it the best phone I ever owned. You could slide the screen up for the keypad.. or down a tad for access to media controls. It wasn't super fancy compared to some of the phones Linus showed, but at least it was functional. :)

@user-ue6iv2rd1n

9 ай бұрын

@@aritakalo8011 A lot of people didn't text at all so it didn't matter.

@unlokia

9 ай бұрын

We weren't in a frenetic, insane RUSHHHH to send messages, life was slower-paced, even that recently.

@Lobbelt

9 ай бұрын

@@unlokia You are so right and it is strange realising this was ~10 years ago. We weren't in 100 group chats, you just texted your mates to meet up or your mom to tell her you've safely arrived somewhere and that was basically that.

The StarTAC was a GodPhone: You could have a thin or "bulge" battery (as seen in video) on the lid, and then one of two sizes of backpack battery on the other side of the phone... this gave you the ability to A/B batteries without dropping a call. I called mine, a blue Brazilian-only color, "The Endless Customer Support Phone" and it was. It helped me sell a company. Still have it, with both batteries!

@fede81s

9 ай бұрын

I think the Startac was the phone that i kept for the longest time. Like from 1998 to 2003

@tiobetio9501

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. This version that Linus got is hideous but back in 1996 when this came out all the cell phones were fat ugly monsters. Here in Canada they retailed for 1700 when they first came out but they were as you said, God Tier.

@danielpope6498

9 ай бұрын

I still have my Startac too, still turns on. That was THE phone for a while there

@loslosbaby

9 ай бұрын

@@danielpope6498 Annnnnd, it was just a PHONE

@mlittletn

9 ай бұрын

I loved mine too. That thing could also take a beating!

Imagine if Sony make a case that slides a gamepad as the old Xperia Play. That would be a smashing hit.

@jamesalexander5559

9 ай бұрын

I think Razer has a patent for that. I remember they made a slide-out gamepad case for the iPhone 4. I believe LG tried to make a magnetic gamepad but it never got anywhere.

@ZizoMass

9 ай бұрын

@@jamesalexander5559 I remeber the Razer one. I doubt that they have any copyright for that or that anyone will have any trouble with Razer because of it. Also, the mobile game scenario in the iPhone 4 era was completely different from today. Back then we barely had mobile games that took advantage of a gamepad like that.

@HappyZavulon

9 ай бұрын

I had an Xperia Play and the thing was freaking awesome for emulators back then. I played so many SNES and PS1 games on it haha

@ZizoMass

9 ай бұрын

@@HappyZavulon me too! That's why I saying that if we had a phone case with a slide gamepad that would be awesome. I used to play a lot more mobile games back then, because whenever I had to wait for something or felt like it, I just slide the gamepad and I was ready to play and I didn't have to worry about always carrying a Bluetooth controller with me. Like, I finish the hole GTA III on it just playing little by little when I have to wait for something. Now, every time I go to play mobile I have to play casual games because I never have a bluetooth controller around and I simple hate playing more complex games with the touch-screen. A phone case that use this same concept would be the perfect solution and I would buy it without a doubt! You are loosing money, Sony!

@HappyZavulon

9 ай бұрын

@@ZizoMass yeah, instead of the god forsaken abomination that is the new PS5 handheld they should just release an Xperia Play 2 or an addon case pad for one of their Sony flagships.

I owned the Nokia 7380, the updated lipstick phone with a 2MP camera. The rotary dial for typing was really fast & one handed. Perfect for banging out quick text on the go! Back then we were very used to Nokia's T9 predictive text & knew what would come up ahead of time which would further increase the wpm of our texts. Loved that phone, I still regret selling it when I did finally upgrade! My father had the Nokia N93i, the upgrade to the N93, most notably it did have expandable SD card storage, so no limits on recording! It also had 3x optical zoom & in a very stylish packing.. complete with a little screen on the outta case to say who's calling with out needing to open the phone. Do I love my current phone? Yes! But do I wish phones were not always slabs still? Yes! Nokia 6800, 6820, 9000i, e90, N95, 8910 & 7650 are some other very cool, practical & stylish phones!

Pretty cool to see how different the designs get compared to today's phones.

@kundasemkundatam7461

9 ай бұрын

Do you want camera lenses in compact rectangle or long row? Notch yes/no. That's how it is today and it's pretty sad.

@timestimesx7535

9 ай бұрын

The increasing need for conformity is kinda scary. It's supposed to be all about choices but customers don't even have the choice to have a replaceable battery.

@rumplestiltskin3441

9 ай бұрын

This is because as technology progresses, real value lies in the software capacities not the hardware designs. In reality most people care what can be done with it after the first thought than what it looks like

I really do miss creative design and taking risks with phones, they didn't always work out but it was wonderful when they did.

@olotocolo

9 ай бұрын

the xperia psp, camcorder phone and dual screen phone could very much be brought back, heck dual screen was but changed. So there is good reason to try bringing them back. If you think about it... rog phone has attachable controllers swtich-style but it could be considered bringing back xperia psp concept of half phone half console

I had a Nokia 7600 and absolutely loved it, easily my favourite pre-smartphone phone. It didn’t take me long to get used to the split keyboard and there were some great games on it.

It really is mind blowing how far phones have come in just a couple of years.

Time when Nokia made cool and fun mobile phones. Just looking at the in displays or on advertisements was a moment of wonder.

@bepamungkas

9 ай бұрын

Owned Nokia 6760 and it was the most memorable phone I've ever own: slide up with qwerty, gps, symbian with PyS60 for light scripting. The amount of available customization back then was great (relative to its peers). Only drawback is the screen size.

@timurklc4431

9 ай бұрын

They didnt have as much data as before, so they just tried everything that could have made money. Now the companies play on guaranteed sales.

@vasiliyt8600

9 ай бұрын

@@timurklc4431 Nokia Mobile was *huge* during the 90's until early 2010's (it ended when Microsoft bought Nokia's smartphone division). They had garanteed sales, because of the quality and plurality of their devices.

@MJ-uk6lu

9 ай бұрын

More like so incredibly stupid that they were alluring, even if once you got one you wanted to smash it into wall due to them being so ass to use.

@0x1337feed

8 ай бұрын

Well from those videos we can understand how they came to bankrupcy. Literally 1 out of 2 phones they made was completely unusable

when you happen to have notifications off but it was posted 30 seconds ago

@someguy5661

9 ай бұрын

For me 3 mins

@poluefemus

9 ай бұрын

plez change it to when you happen to have notifications on (if that’s what you mean cause it hurt my pea brain reading this a bit)

@SpeculativeDust

9 ай бұрын

I'm just getting mine now, 12 minutes past posting. Thanks KZread Severs 🤡

@DaMexAlex408

9 ай бұрын

@@poluefemussame 😂

@disolsole9847

9 ай бұрын

For me 39 seconds

man i had a 7600 back in the days, absolutely loved the thing. the split keypad was super quick to use with predictive text. had a lot of great app support for the time too, like clients for irc, ssh, msn, html (of course), and a pretty dope version of tetris ah simpler times

@williamcampbell9859

9 күн бұрын

A client.... For HTML?

"It's android so it's not that old" Meanwhile, android is approaching 15 years since v1.0

Retro/old phones are fun to collect and brings back nostalgia. Cool video Linus.

@GetOffMyPhoneGoogle

9 ай бұрын

I miss my Motorola Boulder. You could throw that thing off of a mountain and climb down to make a call.

@DacLMK

9 ай бұрын

Yes, and I've been collecting old phones for over a decade now. I have close to 50 phones in my collection, mostly populated by my past phones and from relatives/friends giving theirs to me.

@cyanidesoup

9 ай бұрын

​@@DacLMKthat's really cool ngl would love to see your collection

I knew the Xperia Play would show up in this list. Underrated device - well, appropriately rated device, but the IDEA was underrated. Shocked we have not seen more devices in a similar style - not sure if it’s a marketability issue or a patent issue. Would love more Play-style phones.

@TheAkashicTraveller

9 ай бұрын

Pretty sure it's a google are horrible issue. I.e they don't let manufacturers ship with google play services and third party stores at the same time. Sony would have absolutly destroyed mobile gaming if they did this well with a curated store.

@Stuntfrogger

9 ай бұрын

I got one on release. When it came it didn't have the latest gen OS and apps stopped working less than 2 years in due to this. They also promised to release a lot of playstation games for it.. which they never did. My biggest problem with it was that it came with large games preinstalled in main memory that you could not move to a SD-card and the remaining memory was not enough to do anything really. Good idea, bad implementation.

@TheQuinn50

9 ай бұрын

I wanted it because they had minecraft on it before the original mobile version came out lol.

@unfazedmonkey874

9 ай бұрын

i had this back in 2011 and it was a blast especially when you download all the emulators... i remember one night i was trying to get metal gear solid to run on the ps1 emulator with no hope then at about 4am i finally got it to work... you should of seen my face when mgs loaded up

@PlanetRoxas

9 ай бұрын

It worked reallllly well for emulators back then

I have a Sony Ericsson Play that I still occasionally use today. It was amazing back in the day using it with a Gameboy emulator because you could map the physical buttons to the buttons in the emulator meaning you didn't have to deal with the janky screen buttons while the screen was so much better than an actual Gameboy Advance. Love that phone!

Those phones were so different and so original! Just think of the lipstick one, imagine how weird would it be to carry it around and how cool it would've been if it had like a roll out keyboard or a laser keyboard! Now every phone has the same features because it is what makes companies sell their product (even if they're pretty much saturating it and it's becoming difficult for them to have the customer find a reason to buy their smartphone with respect to others) but in the old days of experimenting with new stuff it was incredible the number of designs they came up with.

I had the Xperia Play, and loved it, great for emulation as there weren't a ton of games that supported game pads in the play store at the time. They dropped the ball with those specs though. Wish Sony would give it another go. The native game market has way more options than it did back in 2011. Also there was probably something wrong with that hinge, mine never had that much play.

@TheIyudha

9 ай бұрын

they actually did, kind of, there's an Xperia 1 IV with gaming accessories that makes it a gaming phone (but no slide out controller like the original)

@me2olive

9 ай бұрын

IIRC the Xperia Play had the same specs as the Xperia Arc, their flagship phone of the time, so the specs wouldn't have been lacking vs other devices available then. I remember playing Galaxy on Fire on my Arc, which was a fantastic gaming experience vs what we'd had before.

@joshwantsmaccas

9 ай бұрын

@@me2olive it was comparable to their own highest end but there was alot of other phones with superior specs, I also owned one and was very much disappointed compared to what it could have been! Was a fun novelty for emulation even tho n64 emulation struggled on it at the time 😢

@milkyy4168

9 ай бұрын

I remember seeing ps1 games running on it. Didn’t Sony include ps1 games with that phone? As a little kid I was amazed that there was a sort of psp that worked like a phone.

@Psythik

9 ай бұрын

I still can't believe that nobody ever made another phone with a built-in gamepad ever again. Back in the day I thought the Xperia Play was the future of mobile gaming. To this day I *still* don't play phone games cause I can't *stand* to put up with gaming on a touchscreen. All I need is my PC.

Unexpected blackface at 6:15

@sparklefluff

9 ай бұрын

I noticed that too. I don't know how anyone ever thought that was a good idea

@senddoods7805

9 ай бұрын

Its insane how no one is talking about it

@defnotatroll

9 ай бұрын

That had me like 😧

@santiagoaguilar8429

9 ай бұрын

They must’ve re-uploaded because it’s gone now 6:14

@defnotatroll

9 ай бұрын

@@santiagoaguilar8429 how did that make it through quality control the first time around

I legit want an updated version of that last one. It looks dope af

The quality control on the Sony Ericson xperia play was somethin that needed to be done better, because I had one with me that went through several situations most phones wouldn't survive today. Yet my buddies play wouldn't even open an app without crashing. I can even still use mine as an emulation player, though the screens about had it with scratches.

Never felt as old as I did today remembering how badly i wanted some of these phones when they came out 😂

@benwu7980

9 ай бұрын

I was hugely surprised how cheap the Matrix phone was, but in hindsight it makes sense

The Xperia Play was amazing, but you definitely needed a custom ROM and kernel to get the most out of it, you could OC the CPU to 2Ghz. I developed the Aurora Play ROM 10 years ago for it and still use it sometimes today, runs all PS1 and below consoles but since android 2.3.7 is dead now you need to side load most APKs.

@Arun-yl8kc

9 ай бұрын

Wow cool to hear that. 😮

@pablinskiller

9 ай бұрын

As an emulation device it was pretty cool indeed, software restrictions killed it :c

@PsRohrbaugh

9 ай бұрын

This is absolutely amazing! Wish there was a way to keep legacy tech like this more current.

@litlsnek

9 ай бұрын

@@PsRohrbaugh back when oreo was still new someone got a nexus 4 to run oreo

@PsRohrbaugh

9 ай бұрын

@@litlsnek This is impressive. Honestly the hardware can handle it. The issue tends to be with mass market phones and locked bootloaders, and other anti competitive practices. My first smartphones all ran windows CE, before it become windows mobile. I've been in this game for a while. I honestly hoped android would bring the desktop Linux experience to smartphones - but the hardware became so locked down it's terrible. - written on a 512gb note 9 with 1tb MicroSD that I paid $1500 for on release day that you'll pry from my cold, dead hands. Long live headphone jack! To say nothing of the pulse oximeter which I use frequently.

Love these videos! I love seeing tech from when I was in middle/high school. I completely forgot that a lot of those phones existed

My father used to own a StarTac, the standard black model though. He used it for many years until they upgraded the phone network and it wasn't compatible with the new antennas. That phone is immortal...straight up indestructible. I swear at some point it even got splashed by sea water and it was still working fine. I bet it still works to this day.

My friend was so hyped to get the Kyocera duel screen phone, fun fact, it came with 2 batteries because with the duel screens they knew it would burn through them fast.

@lioneification

9 ай бұрын

I remember loving Kyocera. I feel like they always had the coolest phones and features in the day

@animeloveer97

9 ай бұрын

@@lioneification i had one of their slide out phones in 2013 with the keyboard and i used to love it because you could map keys to the controller ingame. was so fun

The StarTAC was the pinnacle of phones during it's day, maybe not the rainbow one, but the normal ones. If you were a serious user of mobile phone, that's the phone you had.

Who ever wrote that sponsor transition NEEDS A RAISE, deserves one. I’m expecting more like this. Those transition make me wait and see and actually be interested in the product

Congrats on starting this beast once again 👏🏻 I'm waiting to see this one ripping through the streets once again 🎉🎉

Given all the old tech LTT has gathered over the years, I think it might be a heck of an idea for them to open a tech museum. I mean why not! That way all the tech is preserved and people can go somewhere to learn about it all!

@tzxazrael

9 ай бұрын

sounds neat, but how's it gonna make any money? they'd need (yet more) physical space, and then have to have people come visit it, etc. nerds would like it, but how many times would they go? and normies just wouldn't care.

@bubbledoubletrouble

9 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@tzxazrael > How’s it gonna make any money? Already existing museums: “That’s the neat thing, you don’t” Everything you’ve described has been a problem faced by every museum ever. Up to a certain point they’re all kind of solved problems, so long as LTT actually cares to attempt it.

@tzxazrael

9 ай бұрын

@@bubbledoubletrouble except that LMG is a business, and doesn't get government funding. so whatever they're going to do it needs to at least pay for itself somehow. literally paraphrasing what Linus himself has said in a recent video; if it doesn't make enough money to pay for itself, they can't really do it.

@desiredditor

9 ай бұрын

$20 entery fees

@tzxazrael

9 ай бұрын

@@desiredditor won't even put a dent in what it would cost to buy the space.

13:33 the best cut in the history of LTT

Missed out on my old favorite, the Moto Backflip which was like the flip out but came out around the same time in a much more usable form factor.

13:06 Hey Linus, just wanted to say that DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) is an terrestial Standard, not IP based. It's a very common Standard in Europe. Although the Standard the phone supports is the old one. Nowadays there is DAB+ which works with a new audio codec and is much more efficient. Btw. I think it is included in this phone because DAB transmitters are located in the old analog TV Band.

I still have my original Nokia N93 that I got when it was new, so I definitely want to give more info on it! It actually has an optical zoom lens, a real lens that moves when you zoom. It had for the time a powerful GPU that was rumored to give you PS1 level graphics, and I was very impressed of some 3d games that it had, they were buttery smooth higher resolution, meanwhile every other phone had pretty slow games that lagged. It also has an external display that you could use to see what music you were playing and control it from the side buttons without opening the phone, making it a very good MP3 player at the time. The screen also rotated horizontal so you could lay it down like a laptop and play games using the arrows as a pretty easy dpad. It had a Symbian OS that didn't really have a lot of software. It was pre android and I always felt the phone was ahead of its time. The audio quality and volume on the speaker was actually pretty good too, since it had a bigger secondary speaker just below the external display. It came with a fancy cloth pouch that I used to carry the phone with me. There was also N93i and N92 models, from which the N92 model was veery interesting, it actually had a tv tuner inside that you could use to watch tv channels live from your phone. It used DVB-H technology, at that time, it was crazy and neverheard really. Even this day when phones are super fast and intelligent, they don't really come with TV tuners inside, so it was something that we didn't see much after that. Anyway, good times, it was nice to see that phone in your video, so thank you for that.

@lincolnlu9869

9 ай бұрын

I really wanted the N93. But it never came to Canada

@tiadaid

9 ай бұрын

I remember the Nokia N93. I coveted it, but I ended up with Sony Ericsson phones by then.

i owned 2 xperia plays between the years 2011 and 2015, The phone was actually amazing at the time, With lots of support on XDA around custom roms it extended the life on this phone quite a bit.

Im really enjoying these types of videos on the channel. Keep it up guys

This makes me feel so old. I remember seeing most of these come out. The StarTac was a lustworthy object back in the late 90s, only bested when Nokia brought out the 8210, or the CMD-Z5 from Sony. I kinda miss the weird quirkiness of everything tbh.

7:49 The larger port is most probably Nokia‘s proprietary headphone-microphone combo jack. I had a similar port on my Nokia 6020.

@RobertDragoun

9 ай бұрын

Also used as data cable when connected to PC

18:00 I love this phone!!! Someone needs to do a remake!!!! ❤💙💛💚 (Or maybe just a modern phone protector with this color scheme. Let's go!)

@DomhnallMolloy

9 ай бұрын

D brand better get on this

I remember having the Nokia N97 in 2008, with a keyboard that you could slide out. It was amazing for texting in those days and the design was awesome

I remember a few of these being a Nokia engineer in the UK. A recent mechanical and cool phone to check (and are cheap now) is the LG Wing that may get linus attention once he realises it's abilities 😎

@Fetidaf

4 ай бұрын

i love the LG Wing, i want one as an emulation device but i cant justify spending 3-400 dollars on something which probably wont work how i want to with the controller on the bottom screen and the game on the top

Ah, good ol' days when you wasn't able to find two similar phones in classroom and two similar charge ports from one brand...

@ronanwaring3408

9 ай бұрын

Unless it was a Nokia, which was why they where the go to for buisness people like my parents, uncle's and grandparents, they always could use 2 types of charger, either the barrel or the proprietary one with the two slot clips on either side, and they normaly used the same battery.

While I really liked this video that the price was mostly not in dollars made it really hard to tell how close Linus' guesses were. I think it would have been a lot better if you did a currency conversion for the year the phones were released just so it's easier to tell how well he's doing

@fungalgrowth

9 ай бұрын

completely agree, seems like such a basic oversight

@TheRedneckAtheist

9 ай бұрын

@@fungalgrowth Historically, since 2000ish electronics prices have been right around 1:1 despite exchange rates.

@NatoPotato347

9 ай бұрын

Especially since he’s guessing in dollars when like 80% or the prices are in Euros.

@DimT670

9 ай бұрын

Plus it was kinda never made clear whether he was guessing with or without inflation. Is it today's dollars or whaf

@Jezee213

8 ай бұрын

@@DimT670 yes exactly, what it's worth now or when it came out.

that feeling when since you are just a school kid by the time these phones released, the only phone you had used that was mentioned in this video... is the fisher price one 18:05 LOL

The surface Duo 2 screen gap is awesome, if you use two screens for productivity. I hate the crease in most folding. Plus being able to fold all the way back is a huge plus

The golden age of phones - predating the iPhone launch - were the best years, literally something for everyone. The Sony Ericsson P910i was my daily driver, I was the unofficial source for Samsung sliders on Howard Forums (D500 mostly), and the sound of closing flip phones still coloured the soundscape of daily life. Good times - but only after 6pm.

@Girvo747

9 ай бұрын

The M600i and then the P1i were the best smartphones ever made

@lioneification

9 ай бұрын

To this day, my favorite phone was my LG Rumor 2. If I could get a smartphone version I would be the happiest boy

@cameronliddell9533

9 ай бұрын

i had the w910i walkman phone. still one of the best built in audio players on a phone

@Demonslayer20111

9 ай бұрын

Oh God. I forgot about the weird phone plans that were time specific. Unlimited calls after 6pm. Unlimited texts on weekends.

@Goncalvesbrunot

9 ай бұрын

Howard Forums. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.

I bought a used Xelibri 2 years back, still have it and love the ringtones on it, they were mad dear and designed as fashion pieces. The keys were akward and difficult to use, however, fantastic and love mine.

I had that blue Motorola, it had a really great Breakout style game on it. We didn't have the accessory that turned it into a more conventional phone, you had to use the headset.

@anthonycutt8854

9 ай бұрын

Always wanted that Nokia lipstick phone, too expensive though. A chain of stores near me sold that Nokia 3G phone. It went from £399 to being free if you bought a SIM card within six months.

I had an earlier version of that Motorola flip phone as a preteen and I think it's the phone I've loved the most in my entire life, I still miss it to this day. The specs nowadays are horrendous and it's quite janky for today's necessities but goodness gracious did that phone bring me joy. I still have a 2009 selfie I took with it on my Google Drive too. Good times.

@The11devans

9 ай бұрын

I had one like that too! The hinge had a hole in the center with rgb lights that turned on when it was charging. I thought it was the coolest thing ever lol

Man, I wish the LG Chocolate had been included. That is still, to this day, my FAVORITE phone I've EVER had, including the Fold 3 I currently use. The camera was surprisingly good for the era, the screen was not terrible, the slide up for the keypad was still considered cool, it came in a bunch of neat colors (mine was lime green), and that thing was basically a knock off MP3 player. I definitely used it more for that than actually making calls lmao! I will say my generic $150 Motorola slide phone with a full keyboard was much better for once I got into texting. My nerdy college-age self did full text RP on it while at work when nothing was going on. Pretty sure I had an entire single-person campaign through the Vampire Bloodlines game universe on it, never showing up anywhere else. I made a pretty terrible magic vampire.

Missed talking about the Bang & Olufsen Serene, made in conjunction with Samsung. I had one for a while, inherited from my dad who was B&O mad. Clamshell design, it had the screen below the keyboard, the camera was in the clamshell hinge and aimed out sideways, the keypad was CIRCULAR and had a spinning dial in the middle. The thing was pretty mental for 2005.

@pmp1337

9 ай бұрын

1000 EUROS!

@marram101

9 ай бұрын

@@pmp1337 in 2005 too, accounting for inflation that's €1500 now. That was silly money!

I had a Nokia 7600. It was weird AF, but... Remember that T9 was the main thing at the time: with a little practice you could text faster and more reliably/accurately than any standard T9 set up

I remember when I was in middle school, the Motorola Flipout came out, and I was ready to do just about anything to get one. Unfortunately, that was high into the time when At&t was restricting what phones could be used on a basic plan or something. Same thing went for the Playstation phone, which I also never had because we were on At&t.

HTC HD2, that is what you should get, runs Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro (Original OS) but can also be upgraded to Android (which came after the phone did interestingly) and it can even run Windows Phone 7. For the record you can actually triple boot this phone.

@realgamer1998

9 ай бұрын

triple boot on a phone. mind=blown. people barely did dual boot on PC/laptop ten years ago.

@Duncan_Campbell

9 ай бұрын

I actually thought about buying one when they came out (as my contract was ending ) I was looking to upgrade from my HTC TYTN II, I waitied and got a HTC desire HD a year later.

@Pasi123

9 ай бұрын

Few years ago I tried to run Minecraft server on a HTC HD2 running desktop Ubuntu 10.10, it ran noticeably better than on a Nokia N810 (which has the same TI OMAP 2420 SoC as the Nokia N93 in the video). Not that you'd really want to host a Minecraft server on either of them

@Avil450

9 ай бұрын

One of my friends was kinda rich and had this phone . As teenagers we were confused when this mf pulled up on a Sunday and told us his phone is running windows . We were like what ? you got a low powered pc running there ? We thought windows meant computers .

@Toastie

9 ай бұрын

I had a HTC HD Mini and it was the worst phone I ever had,

This was super fun going back in time with you and guessing the year and price along with you! 😂

you missed the Siemens SX1 :) that was one crazy phone and I absolutely loved it, even managed to type fairly fast on it :D

Had on of those Ericsson Experia Plays. Dropped it off of a roof (slid from my pocket lol). Found it on the ground with one tiny scratch on the back, still worked.

Why yall gon throw Doug DeMuro under the bus like that at 5:47 😭

@Forrest_O.

9 ай бұрын

Should we tell him?

Now I'm become Linus, the destroyer of phones

The Xperia Play was my first smartphone and other than the screen getting pressure damaged and the general lack of long term support I've gotten on all Android phones, I fudging loved it. Wish they'd make a new one.

Man, i loved my kyocera echo back in the day. You could run an app on each screen, sure they had to be "supported apps" but still neat

14:59 thats exactly the reason why nokia started dying even before smartphones. they came out with whackier and whackier designs but nobody actaully wanted them. i know many people that bought one nokia "innovation" and never bought nokia again.

The Nokia 7600 was my first phone and I loved that thing! I learnt to text on it. It came with headphones and had space for 3-5 mp3s. It had a camera and a very locked-down version of internet connectivity. I also based my school project for graphic communication around it. It definitely didn't cost that much when I got it though. Nice to see it again!

@tehweh8202

9 ай бұрын

That just reminded me of how scared I used to be, to accidentally open the Internet and burn through the entire prepay card money in half a minute.

@Demonslayer20111

9 ай бұрын

I think they adjusted for inflation. I don't remember those old phones costing that much

@s8wc3

9 ай бұрын

@@Demonslayer20111 They were probably using the launch RRP. A few months down the line or on contract through a carrier it would be much cheaper.

The last one 1997 i think that thing would have been awesome during its time. Ive seen CP the size of Army Radio being used around that time, lol.

I actually worked on multiple of these my self in my line of work, the kyocera from the start was actually one of the cooler ones

@10:23 I guess Linus isn't old enough to realize that isn't full size SIM.

More vids like this please. Love this style of weird old tech content!

@daggern15

9 ай бұрын

LTT likes to mix things up so I doubt they'll do more of this. Mr Mobile has got a whole series for devices like these.

man, you've got to love the era of feature phones. Every phone is like a concept phone and stand out from each other.

I came from this era and there were some key features that we take for granted these days. For example, the Motorola Razer was really popular due to the flip mechanism but had the fatal flaw. When typing long SMSes, the key response gets slower the longer the message gets. These had T9 typing, so you had to press 2, wait a moment, press 2 again just to get a single letter 'b'

I absolutely loved the Xperia play. It was one of my favorite phones. I was really surprised they didn't include the "Palm Pre", that phone was awesome!!!

@TamNgo84

9 ай бұрын

I had a Palm Pre when it first came out, alongside the Tablet, think it was called the Pad. The Synergy idea where you could find something interesting you wanted to view on a larger display and easily load it from the phone to the tablet was such a great idea. I loved how small the Pre was, but all that excitement ended when everything went fire sale and Palm just poofed in a matter of months. I really wanted Palm to succeed.

@ericl5093

9 ай бұрын

@@TamNgo84 Absolutely!! Me too

@a1ansxe

9 ай бұрын

Palm pre was amazing, especially overclocked!

The fact that even Linus is so off on the prices shows you how normalized the expensive phones got nowadays.

@rumplestiltskin3441

9 ай бұрын

Adding inflation from mid 2000's, actually most of the phones compare to a $500 - $700 phone today and buying a modern phone is way more useful than these were for their price.

I remember my uncle getting one of those startac phones (blakc no rainbow) when I was younger. I remember being blown away by how small it was considering my dad still had one of those bag cell phones in the jeep.

16:07 my dad had one one of those before got an iphone 6. he had emulators on it and everything, I loved that phone

9:25 My OnePlus 7t Pro had the front facing camera stop working after a software update (wtf) and the wide-angle stopped working a little bit later. So, yup, not that reliable.

Seeing phones like the Motorola Flipout and the Xperia Play got me nostalgic, as I was born in the end of the 90's I grew up dreaming with a lot of phones, unfortunately in Brazil through the 90's and mid 2000's having a phone was out of this world and only for the rich. I remember my mom saved money and got a Nokia 5110, it was fantastic (and a brick). A year after she upgraded to a 3210 and I remember asking her the phone to play Snake. About the Motorola Flipout, I knew friends who had it but the Xperia Play was "the must have phone" for gaming. Damn, thank you Linus for bringing back so much memories...

The StarTac is my all time favorite phone. I'd still be using one if Verizon hadn't kicked me off the network. The phone could have two different phone numbers at the same time, one for work and one for personal use. The directory access was easy to use and the phone was tough. You could bounce the damned thing off the wall, reattach the battery and get on with life. The Starfish PDA was a bit goofy, but the home phone/landline adapter and handsfree car accessories were awesome.

I had the motorola flipout. Indeed, it was the last phone I owned with a physical keyboard and I miss it so much. The phone itself was a bit of a novelty, but tbh I really liked it. The OS was a bit sluggish. I wasn't much of a mobile games or pictures person, so it was good enough for me.

For some reason I had it in my mind that the StarTac line was as popular as the Razr was after it, surprised Linus didn't immediately recognize it

@Torabaito

9 ай бұрын

I think the problem was that the StarTac was very focused at business professionals

@MrJest2

9 ай бұрын

@@Torabaito Back then, pretty much every cell phone was. And they were priced accordingly in most cases... but yeah, the StarTac was still coveted by anyone who could afford it.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

9 ай бұрын

In absolute numbers it probably wasn't nearly as popular as the Razr. But as a proportion of the market, it was probably the most popular phone ever. I think 80% of phones in 1998 were StarTac.

Thank you for the trip down the memory lane. I remember looking at most of these as a kid and dreaming I'll buy at least one of them one day.

You left out two of my favourite phones (loved both of these):. 1. Nokia Ngage. I loved this phone. It even had an some great exclusives: "The Elder Scrolls Travels: Shadowkey", "Glimmerati" and "Pathway to glory". 2. LG FLex. It was a flexible phone with a self-healing cover. Cmon.

I had the flipout, was perfect form factor when Google maps began to do navigation. Also, as student in computer science, I could run ssh session. Also great for Pokémon with gba emulator with the integrated direction pad

These are actually really cool, I wish they still made weird phones like this

@DrSmugface

9 ай бұрын

that nobody buys ?

@maevwat

9 ай бұрын

there was the lg wing

@ltcuddles685

9 ай бұрын

@@maevwat ngl, I liked the idea of the wing.

@williamowens2063

9 ай бұрын

They're cool but let's be honest no one would buy them. Maybe as a collection piece.

@rosskrt

9 ай бұрын

f(x)tec actually makes phones with the integrated keyboard. I recommend checking them out

Kinda weird that you didn't mention that some of those old nokia's (at least the N93) were smartphones, running Symbian. Symbian was kinda awesome for the time. A smartphone OS designed for T9 interface. I remember having youtube and dos box on my Nokia E51, as well as an SMB server for ease of file transferring. I'd say most people who had Symbian were not even aware they were smart phones, as there was no "app store", just binaries off the internet.

@Redbikemaster

4 ай бұрын

I had one Symbian phone: a Nokia Nuron. I think I still have it somewhere

So two of my 3 big loves are tech, and cars, and I have to say seeing these call outs across battle lines lately has been so cool. Now if you could just do a collab with Ola Englund my life would be complete.

I had a Nokia N93i the N93's successor for years. It came with the best version of snake game ever.

I remember browsing the cingular (now AT&T) phone offerings in like 2004-2005 when I was about to get my first cell phone. I feel like there were hundreds and hundreds of options back then. My first phone was an LG C1300 from 2004.

With their last dying breath Siemens Mobile hoped to reignite the fire for Siemens phones by producing a whole series of mobile phones that were meant to be treated like stylish accessoires. Soon after Siemens "sold" the mobile branch to BenQ and within a few months BenQ closed the whole thing down. Those were the wild days of my mid-20s when I worked for S in the Munich HQ. But I have a lot of fond memories of those crazy last Siemens phones. One even looked like a necklace.

Good lord this takes me back. I had a friend who had the Nokia 7280 and it always amazed me how they were better at typing with it than I was with a Nokia 6670 (and back then I was typing FAST and usually without T9). Most of the special phones were rather weird, but damn I miss when companies experimented with design.

You guys should do this again! Very funny. I think there are crazier phones than the one in this show ;) I am from a time when cameras were not even a thing on cell phones and sms was brand spanking new