I see you in the video analytics with your dislikes, I know you suck furry toes at night

@JewelWildmoon

8 ай бұрын

😭

@kishascape

6 ай бұрын

Eating Dem beans baby

Honestly, even as a furry myself, I heavily dislike closed species. It's just as you said in the video, I don't get why others should have to restrict anyone's creativity and imagination.

@GodzillaPowerPuffFan

8 ай бұрын

Same closed species are the worst

@sexygirlmax2019

8 ай бұрын

no ones restricting creativity. its not creativity if you feel the need to copy someone elses idea 💀 like if ur truly creative u can come up with something without purposely ripping off an existing concept, RIGHT????

@MarkMaker

8 ай бұрын

@@sexygirlmax2019 You should take that last sentence of yours and apply it to people who _make_ Closed Species. Okay bye sweetie 🥰

@G00d_dayzz-NuggetTopss

8 ай бұрын

​@@sexygirlmax2019but some creators of closed species do not allow "illegal, unpaid" copies of their species. They restrict other's creativity so that they would earn money.

@ChronicTweaker

7 ай бұрын

​@@sexygirlmax2019u could say this about literally any furry artist

"closed" means literally nothing lol. Just draw the character you want to draw and don't worry about it.

@jumperjuny7773

Ай бұрын

They'll send their little white knights to harrass you if you make an OC out of a closed specie, trust me.

a lot of species go to far but there's absolutely nothing wrong with making a species and saying "they have these traits and don't have these, if your character doesn't fit the requirements that's fine but they just aren't part of the species". that's a good thing!!

@TrixyTrixter

Ай бұрын

This I agree with. If you make a spiecies you can make the rules for how that spiecies are. So if they do not have horns and aomeone makes one with horns... Its not part of the spiecies. Its onky when people try to tell others that they cannot make a spiecies because they drew it first

@user-fy9wg4vg4w

Ай бұрын

I'm with you, there is just so many bad closed species that it's given them a bad rep sadly

As a person who did spent 1k+ on one specific closed species and god know how much in total that I spent over the last 5 years, I just hate the concept of closed species as a whole now that I'm done with them for good. Some community just gatekeeping their stuffs so much it make everything extremely awful for people who wanted to join them. And not forget the harassing part lol

Ngl when i was younger i made thousands of mochi raptors for fun, i never posted them or shared them, I just used the base to practice my color combinations.

@needleslocal6809

Ай бұрын

Time to make "illegal" mochi raptors just because closed species are stupid

@needleslocal6809

Ай бұрын

Jk but I still think they are stupid

I commissioned a Primagen from a devout anti closed species artist. Just because he said he’d love to say he just can

paying 200 dollars for oni fangs is stupid, i could probably draw my own mochi raptor w/ any king trait for free

@TrixyTrixter

Ай бұрын

Do it. Make one with all king traits just to really stick it to them

Its ironic that the community based around creating OCs would be so easily upset when people make OCs. Imagine unironically paying royalty fees so your made up character can look a particular way.

Sounds like the trademark system but unregulated.

Tbh i always found the concept of closed species a complete fking joke. Paying for just the right to being allowed to draw this and that/own the character? Nuh uh! This crap is like NFTs with extra steps except more yucky.

@SUNKIW.

8 ай бұрын

Mr Krabs

@Flour262

Ай бұрын

Fr lol

Reasons closed species are bad 1, Do i seriously have to pay do draw something *by* *myself* Like dud i can draw what i want 2. Fear somebody will come after you after making a similar character to their species. Some of them will come after you if you didnt even know about their species but made something similar to it 3. As the person said the prices are incredibly high just to give it an extra small trait or even drawing it yourself 4. Mods and owners of the websites are sometimes horrible people driving people out of the community (If yk yk)

When it comes to making money off of Closed Species, idk why they don't just let people make their own (they can ask to be credited for the species) and offer doing the design for them for a price for people who either can't draw or can't come up with a design they like. I feel like they'd get more money for it since more people would be able to hear of them and might want one.

@roxas9121

Ай бұрын

oh yeah those are called "customs" but it's way easier to sell a "Make Your Own" where the creator doesn't have to do art or anything at all to fill their pockets!

The only non-money reason I can think of for having a closed species is sentimental value. People make a creature and lore, and they don’t feel comfortable throwing it out to the world to do whatever it wants with it. I get that, but I don’t agree with it. If you want to have control over a species that you made, there’s a way to do that: don’t post about it. Keep it in your friend circles, or hell, keep it to yourself. Setting the “qualifications” to make a character of a closed species as “being my friend/knowing about said species in the first place” and not “paying me $2000” is not only more effective, but also a lot more fun when you and your buddies have this cursed alien creature only you know about.

@sexygirlmax2019

8 ай бұрын

$2000? id see that for maybe a grem2, ccat, or primagen or something, but most closed species dont cost nearly that...plus...no ones forcing you to pay them $2000 and if youre creative you can come up with something unique without ripping off an existing concept, ya feel?

@thepyritizedgardevoir2389

8 ай бұрын

Ok, I admit $2000 was a little dramatic, I just pulled from my head whatever big number came first. And yes, I acknowledge that people can just make one without paying. My point was that if you don’t feel comfortable with people doing that to your original species, then a more ethical way to deal with those limits is to not let the world see it in the first place. But that’s just me.

@colorbar.s

8 ай бұрын

"keep it to yourself because we aren't gonna behave" lol ok. people like the mochi raptor people 100% go too far but expecting people to respect your creation should be normal

@alienalien3609

7 ай бұрын

I heavily dislike closed species and think they regularily use predatory tactics, but artists should be allowed to decide what they want to do with their creations. If they made a thing just for them, then don't use it. It's respectful.

@TechTchno

Ай бұрын

ME. I HAVE A SILLY LITTLE alien species that's specifically only for a very specific type of content I made and only my friends know about the guys. I would cry if someone else made one /hj I'd even prefer my friends asking and running it by me since their lore is so specific

You changed my perspective on closes specs, thanks! And also this video content is actually really good! This needs more attention tbh.

I make original species, and the only time I ever close a species is when I'm working on it so no one makes an unfinished species LOL. But the fact that some people make super basic species and make it closed is not cool.

I honestly really like original species. Most are pretty lame yeah. but when you find one that actually has a good design, and fun lore to read and intergrate into the character, its super exciting. I honestly ignore closed species you have to pay for. Yeah, i might get a little sad. But if i really want something like it, i can just take a bit of inspiration and make a totally different character. I dont like making off brands, it just feels weird, and kinda mean to purposefully just, disregard the rules. Im sure everyone will think thats a dumb opinion. But its just how i see it. I dont care too much about other people making off brands tho.

I dont really like closed species unless there actually closed for a reason, like with Primigens where the creator made the species only for themselves or there close friends.The ones who make them only for profit I hate so much ngl

I understand it if you're doing something like D&D and making a whole rpg world but when you're forcing people to buy certain traits for a species they already bought then you're hindering peoples creativity and essentially scamming them so most of the time people are going to start leaving your community because of that.

@sexygirlmax2019

8 ай бұрын

how does it hinder creativity if youre copying from an existing concept? if youre truly creative you wouldnt have the need to copy an existing thing someone made

I think there is people defending closed species are looking through their high middle class lenses like the rich nft bros.

Damn, you must have seen the worst of the worst in the community... Sorry about that. And closed species are just... weird really.

I didnt know primigens existed when I found out protogens existed so I made a protogen with wings then I found out primigens existed and you have to get permission to draw wings on them… Funny thing is, I changed the character to make the wings for show and gave them rocket boots instead which way cooler than mech wings imo

I recognize that Nakimi base! I still own a few of em used to go on their amino quite a bit when it was alive 0:53

0:36 thats a bloody masterpiece

@pompe11badboy

8 ай бұрын

finally someone noticed lmao

Finally, NFTs.

I personally think closed species are a non issue. The stupid ones yhat arent very original dont ever seem to get very popular and i guess its a good way to ensure the people using your intellectual property actually care about it and wont just draw the character once and then let it set and collect dust (you know, because they paid for it). I used to be the person who let anybody make a character of my species once. I even made some free adoptables that people really liked. The only "payment" required was that you had to draw the character within 30 days to keep them. Everyone drew their character once and then never did anything with them again. It was a little insulting. Now all my species are closed, and I don't plan on selling them either, I just don't want people making characters of my species anymore. Especially if they're gonna neglect them.

@vladaowo6367

8 ай бұрын

Well, people buy just characters and can pay 700$ (Saw that personally) and never do anything with them anyway. A lot of adopts look very pretty, detailed, and people give a lot of money for them, but those designs work only as a nice picture that you simply glad to have. You will never draw them because the design, even though is pretty, is just too detailed for most artists to draw. And still, everyone can make characters of your species, well, with traits of your species, and you can't stop them. Yes, they won't be considered your species , but still can look exactly like them, without copying a specific character of course.

@PrettyRubbish

8 ай бұрын

@@vladaowo6367 ime when people do that other people are more than happy to shame them into taking it down. It happened to me once and the character I drew only vaguely resembled another artist's character (they had a couple similar traits but it's not like they were identical at all) and I got targeted and harassed and told to take it down. The art community is pretty big on canceling people who don't have ethics. Copying a character's or specie's traits is considered a pretty big dick move in the art community. As for people who spend money on characters, but don't use them, I'm sure it happens but I don't see it very often.

That intro felt kind of petty.

Honestly i just dont post my stuff, i am neither getting money from it nor do i do it professionally so yeh people can just screw off if i draw a mouse with 4 arms :/

"I am not a furry" - That's how it always starts...

I love ur accent and you're pretty funny!! You earned a sub ^^

I'm looking into the whole furry community thing. This is the strangest to me. So imagine a 'closed species' is a doggy with unicorn. What if you didn't know about that species and thought of it, yourself? Why would you have to pay for permission cause you thought of it yourself? Same idea It's not because someone named a new animal some kind of thing, that that someone is the first person to have seen that animal, right?

subbed, i love your videos.

0:30 ayyy its sonicfox from videogames!

I think it's overall a good video depicting why closed species are an issue, but I think you missed the part on open species. The whole point of an open species, is that it doesn't require money. Open species are artists saying "Hey I came up with a silly thingy and I wanted to share it! Why not try and make your own?" That ain't the same as someone expecting money from you to be allowed to slap horns into a bunny Also, no need to drag the whole ass furry community down for the bad eggs in it, some people just like imagining themselves an an anthro bat or smth, nothing wrong with that

@pompe11badboy

6 күн бұрын

Not to shamelessly plug, but I go over these issues more concisely in my other recent videos. Also the furry community is riddled with issues and criminal activity. Hope this helps!

I am a furry myself, and the things you said in the beginning were hurtful…

@pompe11badboy

3 ай бұрын

Please just block me already

@Pixel_thefurry

3 ай бұрын

@@pompe11badboy nah I’ll spare your life

@dragonqueen9452

Ай бұрын

Womp womp

@Pixel_thefurry

Ай бұрын

@@dragonqueen9452 :/

was looking for top furry cringe and finally got recommended this nugget of a video. I didn't know this was possible.

@pompe11badboy

Жыл бұрын

Being an ex-furry pays off!... Sometimes...

@tikimillie

8 ай бұрын

@@pompe11badboy once a furry, always a furry, its in your blood, waiting to go back into bloom upon the next furry moon

@timrosswood4259

8 ай бұрын

​@@pompe11badboywhy are you "ex-furry"?

I personally like closed species, and I even have my own species. I know a lot of species on toyhouse often have free events. i prefer humanoid species tho