I Bought a 1987 Buick Grand National for HALF PRICE with Hidden Issues!
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It's not everyday someone offers me a Buick Grand National for 50% off the average sales price with paint that looks better than showroom new! I bought this sight unseen and found out it has some pretty crazy issues. It was stolen in 1997, the tires rub the fenders, and it's running very badly. Can we fix this for cheap or did I make a really bad decision?
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Was that sparks at min 41 from the plug wires?
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I’ll be… Yes those are big lightning ⚡️ bolts shooting out!! Thank you!
@misc_
7 ай бұрын
That explains it running rough
@brianmooney7009
7 ай бұрын
@manefreshh22mix. Woww great eye. You might have just fixed one of the issues. Well done 👍 😊
@eddie3500
7 ай бұрын
I saw what you saw if you zoom in on the video you can tell its just some debris hanging, at first it did look like some spark flying everywhere but it's way to big to be that
@jason7078
7 ай бұрын
That looks like a piece of debris blowing around.
You now have a monte ss, and a grand national. I think its safe to say you've found the automotive G spot lol
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
😂 epic comment!!
@90scarguy
7 ай бұрын
@@AutoAuctionRebuilds Hey, I commented below, but ill comment here. I'll send you an email, but I have 4 wheels for this car. I bought a wrecked one in????? 2005???? And I took the wheels and tires off of the car. Most of the parts have been sold, but I know I still have the wheels buried. I have an 87 GNX... And your issues are not that major, ill email you or Instagram message you.
@jllucci
7 ай бұрын
@markpease9575 Agreed. He needs to complete the trifecta. No. Quadfecta there was also a Pontiac GrandPrix particularly the aero-back version
@justme-pf3yz
7 ай бұрын
now he needs to add the 83-84 hurst/olds cutlass to finish it off
@Truetv1
7 ай бұрын
He needs the Smokey n Bandit Trans am before hitting the G spot and the Hurst Cutty like the comment before me said
Randy, I'm an old school GM tech. I can tell you that design of MAF was used on a lot of the GM SFI engines back in that day. The interesting thing was, the C3I distributorless ignition system was prone to popping back through the intake during cranking on occasion. It normally happened when you just didn't hold the key QUITE long enough for the engine to catch, and it would pop back through the intake. Trouble is, that particular MAF would get blown the hell apart nearly every time it did it. I replaced COUNTLESS MAF's on these, 88 Royales, 98 Regencys, Rivieras, Bonnevilles, you name it.......pretty much all the GM cars that had the early C3I system, with this design of MAF. Guaranteed, you have a bad MAF, and the intake pipe situation is trash - fix these two items, and that car will probably shock the hell out of you.
The horsepower numbers were underrated for insurance prices back then. Quit a bit above the factory numbers. If it has an aftermarket boost controller it most likely isn’t stock. From those that I’ve known who have/had Grand Nationals they don’t really like anything less than 93 octane. Those tires are meant to keep you from spinning in order to plant all the power on the ground so they are the better option. Guarantee when it’s running 100% right it will still spin them if you really want it to.
@Legend_1754
7 ай бұрын
I thought it was because they didn't want anything to be faster than the Corvette on paper...Didn't they do the same for the Turbo Trans Am ?
@P-J-W-777
7 ай бұрын
@@Legend_1754 you are correct in also saying they didn’t want it beating the corvettes on paper however they knew everyone would figure it out soon enough. They underrated several cars back then for insurance purposes. There were cars in the 60’s and 70’s that produced over 400 on the dyno but the manufacturers would rate them in the 300 range. For one reason they knew they would be buying the cars as well and didn’t want to pay the higher insurance costs as well as not scaring potential customers away with the higher coverage prices.
@manoman0
5 ай бұрын
They did it with any GM that even came close to the Corvette. @@Legend_1754
It is your car, your money. Do what you want with your car and ignore the negative, sad people.
Even with all of its faults, I still love that Grand National Randy! I think that one fix you mentioned using a LS1 maf sensor is the way to go. At least you can get replacements for them. I can't wait to see all the fixes on this one. Those replacement ties and wheels you put on don't look that bad for now. They will work. Running around on tires that scrape and rub all the time sucks. Ask me how I know. When those other 15x7's become available, you will get the G.N back to what it should look like. Great buy Man!
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Hey Randy, Alex @ Legit Street Cars bought a Grand National with the same engine issues and wheel and tire issues. He has several videos on what he did to fix it all. This might save you some time in diagnosing the problems. Nice car. Watch all your videos.
@Deepin210
7 ай бұрын
He rebuild his motor and everything Dunno if randy would do the same
love love love the GN and the SS just need another Marauder to complete the trio
Looks great. I had a 1987 Buick t-type metallic blue with the limited slip differential. It was a fast and nice car up until it was stolen and burned 7 years later.
@carlbernard4197
7 ай бұрын
Aww that sucks 😢. That is a shittiy way fir such a car to go out. I feel bad for you😮
I would loose all the after market junk like that nasty boost gauge . That entire air intake system is wrong. That clamp is a no hub plumbing clamp for a drain pipe. The car itself is in amazingly good condition I would search for the original air intake. Great find Randy ! I absolutely love the t tops .
@markratony7630
7 ай бұрын
Damn Jennifer, you do know something about automobiles. I was reading this and my jaw dropped by what you wrote. My daughter is the same way. She owns a Honda Civic and I caught her one morning changing out the CV joints. She never even told me they were bad. She just took care of the problem herself. It ran great after. However she had me retorque everything after a few day's past because she noticed it felt loose. She could not get the strength to tighten certain things. That's when I shared a little secret about something called a cheater bar. Surprised that she is so smart to take on CV joints but didn't realize you can use a torque wrench or cheater bar to tighten all the bolts.
@jenniferstephany9231
7 ай бұрын
@@markratony7630 Thank you for your compliment 💕
I have a 2004 Buick Park Avenue Ultra Supercharged Series III and my engine did that and I had to get a New OEM fuel pump and Fuel Filter and use no ethanol gas as these older cars were not made for it.
We do really want this Buick Grand National and the Monte Carlo SS be part of the power tour 2024 cause that would be so cool looking forward for it! Your fan from the Philippines!
Hey Randy, If I remember correctly....I think Alex at Legit Street Cars purchased after market wheels for his Grand National.
Its a blast from the past. Ok it needs some work but this car diserves it. It needs some love thats all.
This street car has literally starred in one of The Fast and Furious movies, so it’s iconically noticeable to call a race car for drag duels🏁🇺🇸🔥 My brother does these types of old school cars well
Wow, you just brought back some great memories with that Grand National. How nostalgic!!! I love that car. I dont mind the new rims at all. To me they fit the Era of the 80s. I look forward to seeing more on this car. Love your videos always
Be careful driving the car without the MAF Sensor not being plug up. The car could be running lean while in boost which is dangerous for a boosted car. The fix for most of those cars to get rid of the MAF and go aftermarket ecu to run only a map sensor which is built into the ecu and make the car go from a MAF base car to a Speed density car which can run only a map sensor. That is big money to do all that work tho and you have to find a tuner.
3:05 All turbo Regals had A/C. And 3:46 355lbf.-ft at 2000 RPM. The only difference 86-87 was the EEPROM, which kept boost at 15psi vs. dialing it back to 13psi after a few seconds at WOT.
Great find Randy and WOW it looks pretty damn clean as well as being all there! Seems like price wise you bought it mucho bueno. 😊
Love the videos Randy! This is a great looking Buick and I bet you will love it. Keep up the great stuff and can't wait for whatever you got next!👍👍
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Wesssss ..that last test drive gave me chills omg reminds me of the days of YORR
It needs 36 lbs of air pressure in the front tires to make it run properly. I guarantee it. I love your videos. They're like the mechanics version of 'Shreds'.
Hi Randy! Try typing in "aluminum wheels for 87 Buick GNX" instead of Grand National. I found a bunch of them. I saw Classic Industries and avoided them. Please note: those wheels come in 15 x 7 and 15 x 8, with the 8s on the back.
Great video Randy! looking forward to see what you are going to do with the Grand National.
Congrats Randy 🚘👏👏🤘. My old man had a T type back in the day🎬👍.Salute 😎
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I love the T type!
Mann honestly i think u should look in California for grand national for 24k I think u would have found a seriously solid example..but imma ride along ..your channel is awesome 😊
Been Waiting on this one. My friend had a Buick T Type similar to the GN
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Love the t-type!
I had a 82 regal I pulled the wimpy 6. Cylinder and put in a built 70 455 olds engine in it. Passed anything but a gas station. Dynoed 538 hp and 673 lbs torque at the wheels. Fun to drive Bought the car in 89 from terry Staffords used cars in Pensacola fl Hopped it up a few months after purchase.
I absolutely love the Grand Nationals. I follow all the Mecum and Barrett Jackson actions and I think you got a pretty decent deal. Great video and looking forward to seeing all the progress.
This is an awesome car! The cutting out is the mass airflow sensor and theres also probably a boost leak somewhere
My neighbor had a 1983 or 84 GN I was about 18 or 19 just out of HS I had just gotten my Cutlass at that time. Drooled over that car.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I need a cutlass in my life
@jennaemullins7612
7 ай бұрын
@AutoAuctionRebuilds Yes. I need to send u pics of it. Show car for awhile.
ANS was a performance garage here west of Chicago. It specialized in GN's, Syclones, Typhoons and Turbo Trans Ams. Since it has the boost controller on it, it also most likely has a chip too. No telling what grade fuel you might need to make it run as is.
Here it is! The absolute dream car
Some friends that were stationed with me in the military, bought one brand new in 87. He would take his out and get it up to around 70 to 80 mph then shift to overdrive and the back wheels would spin. Gem of a car and is still one of my dream cars.
Another great car that has been through too many of the wrong hands until now. It's now entering it's second life.
Great find Randy! So excited what your going to do this GNX!!
@turbojay70
Ай бұрын
It’s not a GNX
Sweet find! Not many 1987 Buick Grand Nationals still around that are in that kind of shape. Nice work Randy. Looking forward to more video's.
Awesome job on getting it. Keep up the great work.
Congratulations Randy! I love it!
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
I love your enthusiasm. Very good video. Thanks for Sharing!!!😊
With some work Randy she’ll be a great GN! Glad you picked it up! Yes it seems like it’s the mass air!
from what ive seen, the only option car is missing on inside is electronic touch climate control. and under the hood, looks mostly all stock, but you have a adjustable wastegate for the boost. be careful if you still run the stock fuel pump and its not "hot wired". usually most people run their own 12 gauge hot wire back to fuel pump as stock wiring doesnt deliver much power to it. this is almost a must to do when upgrading fuel pumps . also, the flex tubes connected the turbo to maf, most replace with either a polished metal tube or chrome tube intake. good luck and have fun with it, she looks nice!,, also, your brake light is mostly the "acummulator bulb" that is stuck on the side of the power master. this is most always the source of brake light. if thats not it, the pressure switch. and as a bonus, theres an idiot light on the right hand side thats not used, doesnt even have a bulb behind it its about halfway down the plastic panel that reads "power injection" , well i put a bulb behind it, and hooked it up to a boost switch that would turn it on at boost. yes this was a factory warning light that was never used on the gn, as GM was planning to put a water injection system on it to spray water into the intake upon boost. if you take off the dash and shine a light on the right side warning light panel you will see the power injection label :)
@stevencovington4715
7 ай бұрын
Electronic A/C was not an option on the 1987 model Regal cars. The rest of your information is correct.
She's a keeper.... very nice condition Grand National. 😊
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
The grand national is a great car for what you paid , the custom rear wheels are nice but if they are rubbing like you said you can just change them back to stock or aftermarket . Those wider ones will sell quick . I agree the air shocks got to go. A little work and you got a gem . Great purchase
You’re going to love this one Randy way to go !!!!!!
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I’ll love it or hate it 😂
Great videos keep up the good work mate❤💯
It says premium fuel on the dash. Great car.
That GN is absolutely timeless, great buy! Greetings from Spain.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@derondewitz2463
7 ай бұрын
I love the wheel depth but yeah you're kind of screwed when it comes to having fun. They made it look kind of goofy With the Mickey Thompsons
@22099dscott
7 ай бұрын
Doubt it's a GNX. The GNX cost about $10k more, and they only sold 547 of them. Mclaren/ASC built the GNX.
@jln2612
7 ай бұрын
@@22099dscottwasn't aware of that, thanks!
don't fret of it, Ryan u got a really nice car ... the guy did what we all did at the time, not knowing it would be a collector. The temporary centerlines don't look bad at all btw, most of those problems seem mechanical. I can't wait to see what u do next to it. maybe u should start a second channel with the restoration and auctions on the other if ppl complain..just a thought.
Beautiful car mint condition congrats randy
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
That was an outstanding choice of automobile
Classic Industries makes a 15x8 aluminum repop of those wheels and it shows that Goodmark has them in stock
@user-tu8qm9wf9x
7 ай бұрын
Sorry. I got that backwards. Goodmark makes the wheel, Classic Industries has them in stock. 😂
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I don’t want the 15x8 I want 15x7
Wow that buick is sick !!! Makes that carlo looks a lesser ride… u Rock Dude ☝🏽
I had the pleasure of driving one of these years ago. It was so much fun..fast lol! Very nice car Randy.
Hello Randy I love that Grand National we will get it running very good
'80 hella awesome decade....had so much fun.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Man they were cool times for sure.
@carlbernard4197
7 ай бұрын
I agree 💯 on this. Had my best times when these cars came out. 😌
The pipe connecting the turbo compressor with the MFS should be present tight. It is present in European cars very solid, especially in European cars there is a special mesh that protects the measuring "hot wire" in the MFS. (this "wire" is very delicate). Moreover, you can see how dirty it is "Venturi nozzle" (it must be clean there), the task of the air filter. I think the computer is having difficulty selecting the fuel dose by failure to determine the correct amount of air sucked in by the engine. There is also a "left air" option further into the intake system, as you mentioned. Sorry for any mistakes, I'm writing using a translator
Its like you took us to the candy shop with these back to back GM videos. Its always a great day when you upload. Awesome finds Randy!
Please LS Swap that Monte Carlo and use it for a power tour rather than the Grand National but if you get GN all fixed up it would be a worthwhile investment to keep
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
No LS is coming to the Monte. It’s going to be a 383.
Thanks Rebuilds 👍
Keep up with the great videos mate. 👍 Mike from Scotland
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
Randy those wheels are AWESOME. Love this car!! Can’t wait for next video!!
Nice car, Randy! Get it ready for Power Tour.
I hope your having a great weekend randy love your cars they are so cool ❤
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thanks! You too!
I have a buick regal grand national, yes this the correct name.if you put as little as 2000 dollars will blow your mind.with a cat delete down pipe exaust,chip and col air intake it will run low 12 seconds quarters mile.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I need help with this 😂
Enjoy both the cars bud I'm glad to see them I can't wait to see what you going do with them thank you for video
Nice car Randy!!! The new wheels look great on it. Can’t go wrong with original or “period correct” wheels and raised white letter tires on an older car.
Loving the G Body collection, Randy!
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
I appreciate it.
Good choice getting right size tires and wheels.
Thanks for the video Randy can't wait to see this girl run smooooth.
The 3 plug on the passenger side is for a analog dash if it came equipped with one. They had it wired for both. And the red and green wires are for a aftermarket power antenna that isn't hooked up.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info sir!
@derrickgause8419
7 ай бұрын
That's not the correct maf for that car. That's a replacement they don't run well on these cars. I think that's for a fbody . The original has the plug that goes straight down not to the side. Put a maf translator on it. And the ls1 maf is the same part number for a 99-2005 buick century with a 3100 engine. I have 2 of these cars.
That is an awesome car. I drove one brand new in 87 It felt like the front wheel lifted right up. Once that car is running good, you're gonna love it more.
Both the Monte Carlo SS and the Grand National are two of my all time favorites! Great video Randy!
Great find! I’ve dealt with ACV before plenty of times and found that a lot of car issues are aren’t discovered until after delivery. ACV is good overall.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Well as good as this thing looked I figured there was something wrong with it for the price lol overall very happy with the car though
@Jjay-tw1yy
7 ай бұрын
@@AutoAuctionRebuildsit’ll be alright!
@rocketcityclassiccars3969
7 ай бұрын
@@AutoAuctionRebuilds You’ll come out on top like you always do. Love the channel! Been a subscriber since the beginning.
My first car was an 87 Regal. I'd love to find one to fix up. I'm not looking for a grand national or a show car. I'll probably catch hell for this, but I'd probably v8 swap it and update the suspension a bit, but it would be my car so it would be my choice.
Great car looking forward to seeing a update on this car 👍
I love it, it is so clean like holy crap
Excellent work getting a GN for the channel! Also, shocked that you invoked “LSC” in a video, but that video series was informative… kept up the great content!
Good video & project Randy I like the temporary rims on the car good choice for the cooper tires can't wait to see what else you do to the car I love the G Body's & El Caminos The coopers stick to the road have a good day
Another great one! My reason for subscribing to Randy's channel is because Randy delivers content of cars that I grew up around. Its nostalgia for me. Born in Atlanta back in 1988 and was raised in Buena Vista, GA (small rural town outside of Columbus,GA population 7,000 people). Well growing up in Buena Vista back in the 90s was a blast. I grew riding around in Chevy Luminas, Oldsmobile Ninety-Eights and Cutless Cieras, Ford Tempos, Buick Regals and Centuries, Pontiac Sunbirds and 6000s, Dodge Spirits and Dynasties, Chevy Cavaliers, Corsicas and Berettas. Randy maybe slightly older but Randy would be someone My brother and I would have hungout with back in the day growing up. 😊 But the main reason I subbed to his channel is because he delivers real life stuff for people who aren't rich.
@mtrgv
7 ай бұрын
I was born in 1961. We still rode horses back then, lol. I now have a 1992 Thunderbird Sport, a 2 year only production run. 1991 and 1992, only 17,400 made. Is it as fast as the Buick no but it's a highway cruiser with lots of torque.
Those new wheels do look awesome I also like the originals but new ones pop.
Love the new look great video
You picked up two very nice cars at reasonable prices. Now all you need is an '87 Olds 442.
winter jacket is back, great video!
Looks great Randy! Those wheels look like you put the race track wheels on it. Lol! And yes, everyone would love to own one of these, me included. Still love my 87 Mustang I bought instead of it, but it is one of my favorite cars from the 80's. Hopefully you can get it running right soon.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Hey I love an 87 Mustang too! Great car.
Try get in touch with Vice Grip Garage or maybe Junkyard Digs maybe one of them might know where to find the mass air flow for you that wont cost you a arm and a leg
Great car for the Chanel love to see you bring this one back to its glory days
My friend had a 1987 Monte SS back in the 90s and her step dad said there were to many cars on the property and made her get rid of her beautiful beloved car. Now she gets so upset every time she thinks about when she gets drunk.😂 Sweet cars...hope you get the bugs worked out of them.
This is going to be a great video series with all the little weird issues you’re having. Still seems like it could lead to a solid profit down the road. Those AR rims are better off on the Grand National IMO. I know they’ll eventually make it to the Monte Carlo, but looks so much better with the stocks!
Loved This Video!
Wheels look great. Hope to see more videos :)
A true movie! I’m so excited for the G body series! Keep it up randy!
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@bk_goatkim679
7 ай бұрын
@@AutoAuctionRebuilds I did! Thanks for always being awesome and nice on Instagram!!!!
There actually was a GM TSB in the late ‘80’s to disconnect the MAF on some cars and run without.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
How can you run without a MAF?
@mindblownwatcher8536
7 ай бұрын
They found that if the engine had a MAP sensor that with the fuel maps in the computer the MAF wasn’t needed. It ran by (SD) Speed Density instead. That GN is a sweet ride hope you hang on to it . Oh ,and you’re right , I remember guys putting those new wheels like yours on back then. They look sharp!
@22099dscott
7 ай бұрын
@@AutoAuctionRebuildsif I am understanding you correctly, you seem to feel the MAF should not be wide open aarroound thee outside of the actual sensor. That sensor is designed to read a set percentage of total air flowing through MAF. There are different ways to measure the air entering the engine, MAF is the least reliable parts wise.
The video that I have been waiting for and probably a lot of other people
Looks like Granatelli sells compatible MAF sensors for less than $500, and LS ones with adapter cables for less than $300. Looking forward to this build!
Love it all. If the alternator is not charging, look for the battery light. If that's not working the alternator will not charge. Finally a turbo regal. Awesome Randy!
@stevencovington4715
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I found out about that faulty alternator light the hard way myself about 25 years ago.
Check to see if the mass air flow arrow is facing the right direction
Rumor has it the "Big Al's Bike and Auto" is drooling right now 😎
I said it before- now time for the G-Body Olds 442! I have been loving the videos recently.
@autoactionrebuilds Try to disconnect the MAF sensor & see if it runs better. The fuel sock on the pump may be collapsed which could be causing a restriction.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
7 ай бұрын
Will do man thank you.