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@kolwolf7871

Жыл бұрын

Hi Mtashed as a fellow TCG player I can understand where you are coming from though I must add just like with the base game with the addition of new cards and characters and hopefully balance changes or reworks the game might be flourishing for a while. Basically I think its way too early to tell I recently quit hearthstone not because of this but because of the hidden % chance of certain mechanic that makes the game feel very non transparent to me... and me not knowing this information is critical in decision making and hens the outcome of a match (*example* tony two tusks in Hearthstone BG - the amount of times he will die before his effect triggers makes it clear to me that there are hidden metric that I as a player have no detailed knowledge of and me as a player not knowing this information impact my decision making negatively so I no longer found the gameplay enjoyable because in atleast some ways critical information about the game is hidden from me on purpose)

@alexhan305

Жыл бұрын

oh man FACK TSG! this the most awful parody on hearthstone

@gogoavril

Жыл бұрын

please QUIT. I don't want your frowning face and negative exaggerating lying comment showing up on my KZread 'genshin' search result. It's really disgusting experience. I disliked all your vids but KZread still showing up your vid. Get a job. don't make money by exploiting genshin fans.

@I_upload_Akira_memes

Жыл бұрын

The Dice is Rigged

@I_upload_Akira_memes

Жыл бұрын

I can understand what your point Mtashed, An example would be If your opponent has good dice while my dice sucks, I know I can change the element thingy but my opponent can use their card to do combo and if they also have a good element rolls, therefore my Opponent will win because of RNG broooooo

It’s kinda crazy how a normal attack takes up half ur dice

@remondewa6224

Жыл бұрын

I played runeterra, master duel, duel link, hearth stone etc. Dice energy system is doomed, i play the tutorial and sudden "it will not work like this". Energy system is hard already bcs your card draw etc, and they make gacha energy ? Pokemon TCG better than this

@HuTaoSimp53

Жыл бұрын

@@remondewa6224 That's why YuGiOh is awesome game. It doesn't require energy to do your stuff.

@sikkouvol.1996

Жыл бұрын

@@HuTaoSimp53 facepalm x 100000

@remondewa6224

Жыл бұрын

@@HuTaoSimp53 modern yugioh still doomed, i play master duel and if got second turn and no hand traps is either i got First turn killed, seeing enemy 5 minutes juggling card, cant play anything on my turn or enemy playing in my turn

@songbird427

Жыл бұрын

Right?! And the opponents have OP decks spread out and mine are gone instantly. They don’t work either!

I think this is just yet another case of genshin-ism. It's not designed to be tryharded, mastered, or even get skilled at. It's designed to log onto and play 1-2 games a week. It's made so that even if you play badly, just by getting lucky you can win a match, which makes it more appealing to a lot of more casual players because they get that dopamine hit of "Oh I won!" Without understanding what really happened. It's mindless fun, which is okay to enjoy, but it leaves players like us really unsatisfied

@BangSuRo

Жыл бұрын

This tbh

@blackstarksakata5050

Жыл бұрын

there is literally no variation in this yugioh ripoff..wdym ...its the same as commissions and resin...its going to get repetitive within a month or two

@TFGh0st_VC

Жыл бұрын

This I agree to this I honestly win by stupid luck with out learning how I did it I just stack and attack

@Shiwayari

Жыл бұрын

This sounds right and I feel insulted by Hoyo for this constantly tbh. Realistically, who the hell are these players that don't understand what's going on? Do they even exist? It constantly feels like Hoyo doesn't think their players have comprehension capabilities beyond those of a 3 year old. All while having wide doors open to spend thousands of $$$ on the game. It just doesn't fit or make any sense. Even with events like once again the Misty dungeon - totally agree with MTashed you can literally not even do a rotation with a full team of trial characters, like what the actual F.

@rozee8516

Жыл бұрын

@@Shiwayari This community is the minority if you look at genshin impact player base. Even a big content creator like jake is the minority

I use their TCG as a time gap filler. If my resin is at 18 or 19, i play a few games then use resin for artifacts or whatever when it's 20. I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously or played competitively, just entertaining side content. Kinda like decorating your teapot or hangouts.

@WastedTalent83

Жыл бұрын

i think so too, even because it has a pretty crap system for a card game, and its way too slow.

One of the first things my boyfriend noticed watching me play the card game for the first time was that there are a lot of animations and phases that take up "too much time", like having to roll the dice every round and all the texts that appear like "Select your first character", "You attack first: round 1", "roll phase", "action phase", "your turn". They seem pretty fast at first but then when you play a lot of it it sorta just gets annoying.... I find myself trying to drag my cards and do things before the game lets me do anything. There should at least be some setting that lets me skip all this (now) useless text since I already know everything, or at least make it somewhat less obstructive and obstrusive. Another thing that happened a lot is that whenever he'd ask what i just did I'd just keep saying things like (these examples are much more simplified than my actual explanation btw): "this card gives me more dice if I do x", "this one swaps 2 dice with elements with 2 omni dice", "this one gives me more dice", "this one let's me use no dice to swap", and at some point he just laughed and said "so like if you could have 1 extra dice at the start you'd roll them in one round?" and I just had to laugh too, it feels like any extra dice makes too much difference. Just feels a bit annoying how everything depends so much on the dice, it feels like a loss-loss situation, I either use all my dice in cards that will give me more dice, and lose a lot of time not attacking as much and doing this only so i can have more dice, then I get rolled, or I use my dice to use skills and bursts and equip weapons and whatnot and then I have no dice to use the support cards anymore. I personally found hard to find that sweet spot of having fun using lots of dice but also using my abilities a bit more, without one or the other it just feels a bit annoying and repetitive. That's why I stopped trying to play PvP and now I only play against the hardest bots :(

@Azel49

Жыл бұрын

You're right. Everything is played around the dice rolls. If you take this into account the best team builds will be teams with 3 elements rather 2, because it gives you a better probability of getting dice you can use. The cards you draw are all strategic, the ones that turn dice into omni and switch characters are really strong, and no card you use damages the opponent directly, its all base on your characters. The major rng factor is really set to two things, the dice you roll and the cards you draw. The best way to play this game is just understanding resource management and if you can take on the hardest bots then you should be already a natural. I think things could improve, but for me I understand what they were trying to do with this game, its a good distraction, but not something I will care about long term.

@Diency.

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBud85 my bf is definitely much smarter than you if that's the type of shit you do with your life LMAO

@Diency.

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBud85 lmao you're like 8yo

@dcvirus90

Жыл бұрын

Your comment regarding "too much time" reflect just like your long comment. JK.

@ame_goblin

Жыл бұрын

I wish I cared enough to read your long ass comment

I haven't touched the TCG since getting the initial 60 primos. I have no interest in card games, I barely have enough energy with playing the game. I am happy for the people who enjoy card games though, and the animations look sick. It's just sad that one of the main, great things about Genshin, the combat aspect or using your characters and team has not been receiving much progress in the game's 2 years. My poor characters who were tediously built, farmed, and ascended are sitting in bench waiting for difficult content.

@karenwang313

Жыл бұрын

My characters aren't even well built out and they obliterate everything, the game's content is a total joke.

@richcast66

Жыл бұрын

I am with you on the combat and game difficulty, but I love card games so this tcg has been entertaining me well. I still haven't gotten my 36 stars in abyss because it is more of a choir than an exciting or engaging thing to do, and it's always so easy

@kerticus

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, card game is not for all. After getting the initial quest with primo, I'm done with it. I'm just playing it weekly for the BP quest. Still level 2 and refuse to ascend my player level. If I want a card game, I can simply install a separate - more successful card game.

@-fenrisulfr-690

Жыл бұрын

Quit game and go play mtashed mobile game under this video its just for u :] mecha doge for dogs like u

@sonalita_

Жыл бұрын

@@kerticus you get more gems with each level up so you should do the ascension for the primos

I bet they thought the players would be "anxious" if they made it more strategy based than luck based. They don't want to make any game mode that needs a decent amount of skill and brain 😂

@rayzeckz4573

Жыл бұрын

Ironically, the puzzle for quest n chest needs high IQ

@chrisgodfrey1880

Жыл бұрын

@@rayzeckz4573 That's always a factor I've found hysterical. They don't want to stress out players and make content easy but created puzzles in the world that are just extremely obtuse and difficult to solve. I just kind of gave up on most of the puzzles and hidden chests once Inazuma started because the time and effort just wasn't worth it when the rewards are such crap

@zacharytan1883

Жыл бұрын

This TCG is not even made for casuals. Though its a card game, it requires you to think strategically and spend lots of time in understanding the mechanics/combos/patterns/etc, which most casuals dont have much time to do so. Its the end game feeling we've all dreamed of but its not one weve asked for, where we maximize the use of our built characters.

@chrisgodfrey1880

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharytan1883 Though even understanding the mechanics and combos is pretty pointless when RNG plays such a heavy factor on matches overall. I agree with Mtashed completely, I've played a bunch of TCG and none felt even near the level of RNG dependent as this one

@kawaiimika7974

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisgodfrey1880 There are cards that guarantee you which element you'll get. I really don't understand why are you people making an issue out of this.

Haha! This feels like those damage per screenshot videos where the one being showcased has a very low crit rate but huge crit damage then quit and restart the domain or abyss floor until they land that big pp numbers. Overall it is still entertaining. During Co-Op match: "My deck is OP, I just gotta have those dices soooo... is it okay if we restart the match?" 😅

@oscarguerrero943

Жыл бұрын

1000000 % true XD

@vulture348

Жыл бұрын

I mean If you actually plan your deck instead of mindlessly using skills on characters you can somewhat combat the rng. If your deck is full of cards like Liben, Timmie, The Jade Chamber, Paimon etc. you get at most 1 round of stacking supports until you can actually act.

@luckysgi-5karrow378

Жыл бұрын

Yep, reminds me of that. DPS(creenshot) for the views!

I can completely agree with this, if its mechanics were changed up a bit and it were a physical card game i might consider it. but in the actual game i would rather be exploring Teyvat then playing a game in a game

@mihaelatrpevski3857

11 ай бұрын

Literally

My biggest gripe is how streamlined the best strategy is. 20+/30 of your cards is literally involved with either getting MORE dice. Using LESS dice or drawing cards. Leaving you with less then 10 cards to actually play with.

@StormiGenshin

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@westarrr

Жыл бұрын

That's just because there's a lack of cards right now. The game is still very new, so these rudimentary strategies are the only things we have. Hearthstone had the exact same issue where SMOrc Hunter absolutely dominated, because there were no other systems that could deal with "I just attack 1 time more than you do"

@EC-rk2zl

Жыл бұрын

Amen, its so underdeveloped right now. Much like the fishing and teapot. That they were forced to timelock it. Time locks are the epitome of artificially extending a game with not enough content. It drives me insane. Cuz the time lock is not just the main deck cards. But the actual interesting characters (Like the Maguu Kenki card)

@ivangalv

Жыл бұрын

They are gonna do more cards this is the first patch

@PlatinumO

Жыл бұрын

@@ivangalv I'm also sure they'll release more cards. But the key with online TCG games are balance patches. And that takes a lot of planning and foresight. Which unfortunately they haven't had the best track record with if you look at the current mini/side game line up (tower defense, the various combat events, hide and seek, etc. Without even factoring in that they dropped the permanent side activities like teacup and fishing almost instantaneously)

The moment I get all the primogems that TCG offers I AM OUTTA THERE.

@glennsotelo

Жыл бұрын

Same

@moonykash

Жыл бұрын

Same

@ferdgerbeler8494

Жыл бұрын

ohh, they got primos? Not even sure if that's worth it, i mean, whats the point of primos? to get a new 3d model to stare at and wish there was content to actually use them in? eh, so much potential to flush down the toilet, just like raiders and star wars should have been taken from lucasfilms to prevent their destruction, so should this game be remanded to the custody of the players to prevent its destruction by greedy devs.

@wolbach865

Жыл бұрын

it do be like that. kinda like teapot, dragonspine, and enkanomiya but minigame lol

@Kuragari_

Жыл бұрын

same

genshin impact is a combat/exploration focused game, i don't get why they added a card game as a permanent game mode. this is gonna be like the teapot all over again.

@blazn0

Жыл бұрын

Lol no. Its an story driven exploration game. It has a decent combat system. The combat in this game was never the focus. And it's just decent. What do yall even think is so great about the combat system?

@evilyohoverse150

Жыл бұрын

@@blazn0 the combat is literally the main purpose, you just haven’t noticed what the game is about yet.

I think what I dislike about the dice is the fact that you have to roll them EACH round and the rounds go by pretty fast. I really think it’s going to get really annoying, I feel like I’m rolling dice half the game lol. I know some people say it doesn’t take much time to roll the dice, but it actually drives me insane having to roll each round. I feel like it takes up so much time and I just want to get straight to attacking without having to roll the dice all the time lol.

@lakindusadumina150

Жыл бұрын

same here. they need to reduced animation time. i like the strategy. but with this animation there are so much time wasted

@mica_s

Жыл бұрын

i hate it to a point where when i play i build yoi in the first turn and ellie (cheaper attacks) so ayaka can ungabunga everyone with senho in the second turn

@wuck2226

Жыл бұрын

True but in Yugi Oh Master Duel I rather roll dice than to wait my opponent 5 mins before they finished a single turn xd

@leounlimited712

Жыл бұрын

I agree... rolling should have been a small window. Easy and fast.

@chickensky1121

Жыл бұрын

I wish there was a way to disable all the little animations, or at least make them just short enough that you still understand what is going on. I also feel like the NPCs take huge breaks in their turns. Sometimes I don't realize their turn is still going because they'll pause for like 5 seconds before their next action.

To me the card game in Genshin fits like a cat in a key hole. Don't get me wrong, it's good that some people like it but I just simply wish we had more development towards the actual endgame content.

@shorden

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, you're not alone. I agree with you!

@ironheadedDoF

Жыл бұрын

Agreed... all the time the staff put into THIS tcg game could have made another battling zone, more quests with voice lines, and more progres towards Fontaine.

@tannen3339

Жыл бұрын

@@ironheadedDoF what do you mean by more progress towards fontaine?

@shorden

Жыл бұрын

@@tannen3339 I suppose quests or battles that reference Fontaine. Which is for example now so 3.3 only a little bit, but as we go to 3.4 , 3.5 - 4.0. More and more references to what Fontaine is. Or what could be continued is the development of Fishing. They brought that in and it's not worth much (about 2 weapons and catching fish and that's it)

@AverageFurinaEnjoyer

Жыл бұрын

This IS the endgame content we need 😉

Other than RNG, my one issue with the dice is, why they make you choose an active character BEFORE rolling the dice.

@fireblade295

Жыл бұрын

That'd help one of my problems. The other is getting 4 FUCKING CRYO DICE. I have no Cryo characters. Nothing to fix...without just getting Omni for fast pve matches.

That's why I didn't have much expectations. Genshin is a casual game so it was obvious that they will make the TCG casual as well. Nothing can be difficult is the name of the game.

@iksar1

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but the Genshin TCG is a very hard core PVP game, from someone playing TCG for almost a week, 8h per day. The core system is very deep for pvp, but if you only play PVE then you can play the way you like

@nerio1227

Жыл бұрын

@@iksar1 I'm smoking 99% of my oponnents with half assed decks. I wouldn't call this a deep hardcore pvp game. Especially not deep since there is barely any deck variety.

@freddie5005

Жыл бұрын

@@nerio1227 just wait until they add Cards GACHA ohhh boiiii 😂😂😂 and implement PvP Ranked mode

@nerio1227

Жыл бұрын

@@freddie5005 I'm willing to bet that ranked is the last thing they want to implement. I doubt we will get packs aswell, considering we already have some premium characters there.

@SetsuraPAD

Жыл бұрын

@@iksar1 thought u were being sarcastic but ur now a clown

I’m playing it, but a few matches everyday, instead of grinding it. I can’t deal with grinding anything on GI anymore.

I don't like playing the TCG but I love looking at Ganyu's card

I'm gonna miss your commentary on this game if/when you fully move on. You're very entertaining and honest and your videos were very helpful when I first started a couple months after the game came out. In relation to the video, I'm hardly doing the TCG too, but I just don't like card games much. I pretty much just do the two easiest battles for the BP points and am stuck at lv 2 because I don't feel like doing any of the challenging stuff/messing with the deck lol

@UltraInstinct509

Жыл бұрын

same mtashed is best genshin KZreadr

@fitlife8234

Жыл бұрын

Agreed mtashed saved my account too when i started playing the game

@valk5041

Жыл бұрын

He's never gonna move away from this game don't worry. He has a family to feed.

@twistedfate9475

Жыл бұрын

@@valk5041 he is probably waiting for better game to release so he can get away from genshin , with that he can start having fun again and build a new fan base on a trending game . If that game also come from Hoyoverse then he can still attract old viewer from genshin because Genshin content is dry very quick anyway

@JhonnyStone100

Жыл бұрын

same, i find it boring and really don’t give a shit for TCG. how are you doing the BP quest? does it take long?

Let me start this by saying I'm one of those genetic freaks that just loves card games lol, I started playing magic nearly 20 years ago and haven't ever really been bored with the TCG genre as a result. So I may be a little biased in favor of the genshin TCG. That said I've been loving it so far, not everyone is going to enjoy it as much as I have been, sad but fair. The dice mechanic, while maybe not the most fine tuned mana system, is very refreshing and brings a new element of strategy to the game. The game isn't trying to be hearthstone or magic where you slowly ramp up your mana and playing your cool cards towards turns 4-5. The cards are the supporting cast of the TCG currently, not the driving force, as weird as that may seem. The closest comp off the top of my head would be somewhere between the Pokemon TCG and the Pokemon video games. You brought up that every deck is running the same cards, but that's not because of the dice system like you claimed, it's because there's simply not enough cards available to the player. But even with more cards, isn't that a problem every card game faces? I'll speak to magic as it's the game I'm most familiar with. In magic roughly 20-25 cards of an average 60 card deck will be land cards. You'll almost always run 4-5 removal cards, half a dozen to a dozen ramp cards depending on archetype, at least one or two mass removal spells if you can find the space, etc. After all that you're really only left with 20-40% of your deck space to actually be creative and run interesting cards. Currently the problem isn't that the dice are too rng dependant imo, it's that the only cards worth your time are the super aggro ones that mitigate the dice risk since everything else is too clunky or niche to run. I'd happily sacrifice one of both paimon cards for some better food options, give us spell cards that summon minions rather than just character abilities, field spells that apply elements or even force reactions on both teams, there's so many things they could do and I cope they someday will. For streamers resetting games to get the perfect dice to pull off their crazy 60+ damage diluc combos, that's just clickbait anyway. It's like bad exodia, Mona+Diluc+Bennett The only big issue I have with the game itself (obviously no ranked system and really the lack of pvp rewards in general are disappointing), is that pretty much every card needs white dice. If they'd switch like 80% of cards from needing 2-3 of the same type of dice to just random ones the game would feel so much smoother and take much less difficult resource management.

@fireblade295

Жыл бұрын

"not everyone is gonna be enjoying it" because the dice RNG ruins it. I play for casual fun, not wasting TWO hours just restarting constantly.

That's why cards that give omni-dices are kinda op, but it takes them some turns to start working, also if you don't get one in your beginning hand even if you re-roll cards, it makes it rough

@fireblade295

Жыл бұрын

Which is why they need to just make dice Omni for players, ele for AI. It'll make casuals happy and tryhards/meta can just stop ruining things.

I think you make a very good point about the limited cards, spells for variability in the play and decks - and once familiarity kicks in - people will get bored with it.

@HashMyth

Жыл бұрын

Serenity Pot anyone? 😏🤣

@susbedo9258

Жыл бұрын

@@HashMyth at least Serenith Tea pot has some creative expansions and small audience. Fishing is literally a waste of space and zero playability.

@HashMyth

Жыл бұрын

@@susbedo9258 it really has a small community of creative builders who make AMAZING designs. But you can only go so far and once you have that "perfect" setup, you rarely go back and only show it off from time to time.

@susbedo9258

Жыл бұрын

@@HashMyth I see some creators really have amazing designs on their tea pot - it sometimes blow my mind. But you are definitely right, it is kind of saturated, mainly because Co-op play is literally almost dead for Genshin now :( my last guest was more than a year ago.

@leostiffer530

Жыл бұрын

@@susbedo9258 if only they make global chat like honkai impact .. people feel like dont need to enter other player world anymore (bcouse they strong already and some factor is player having problem of suddenly accepting random stranger to their world and enter someone else world . i mostly refuse them coz i dunno them . if only they can chat bfore in the world i think it will change a bit even not much atleast can get rid of both party anxiety ..

My only problem is wanna do that specific combo but have to play it a bunch of times for RNG to be in your favor.😅

@mmdinnovations2990

Жыл бұрын

OMG, you're so dang right; in the last match I played, I had the other team almost down but had to wait like 3 turns to finish the match due to the lousy dice RNG not giving me sufficient elements/dice for my characters to use their skill(s).

@icekiller1594

Жыл бұрын

First card game?

@Rezzz10

Жыл бұрын

@@icekiller1594 yes first shitty or really bad card game stop defending this shit if you are going to defend

@markangelogarcia2136

Жыл бұрын

@@mmdinnovations2990 this is why you should always put all 4 paimon cards in your deck.

@wuck2226

Жыл бұрын

The game still infant state. Have u seen Yugi Oh before and after?

my biggest gripe with this game is that there are almost no cards to disrupt your opponent. a card that removes equipment or support cards from play would go a long way. would yoimiya decks be op if you could remove gambler's earring or counter minty meat rolls? and even if there were, it gets complicated by the turn/round based system.

@hoppie4263

Жыл бұрын

More cards are coming so it will get better the TCG just came out so it will improve

@wuck2226

Жыл бұрын

The game literally just came out. They’re know what they’re doing. As who plays master duel In highest rank. It’s normal to start the game slow and simple before they add complicated cards in the future.

@Am4t3r4su

Жыл бұрын

@@wuck2226 Bruh... original yu gi oh was so much more relaxed tho. I highly dislike how complicated new age got.

@wuck2226

Жыл бұрын

@@Am4t3r4su If u think abt it its the same as this Genshin TCG. The Old school Yugi Oh feels clunky to play, bricks a lot, other players get lucky enough, ppl playing the same cards. All same complaint what Mtashed mentioned In this game. So I disagree pretty much what he says.

@eherden2169

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, lets see what we get in future patches.

They need to make it that for every unusable element you get, you have a higher chance to get one of your current active character that stacks, other than that, I think the dice in GITCG is one of the more unique ways, and i love it cuz of the theme

@ohreally3500

Жыл бұрын

I don't know man but if you are only thinking of just getting the element dice of your active char to attack without proper setups to get the dice you need means you are playing it inefficiently Dont get me wrong not trying to belittle others its just that i saw how my friend play and it's so sad to watch that he just thinking of putting damage out(or healing) instead of thinking for the end game/ late game So my point is if you think the dice is a problem then that means you haven't played this or other tcg enough to learn proper skill set (its like how everyone can play chess but not in a higher level)

@ayad953

Жыл бұрын

@@ohreally3500 man you give me hype

@Sanguiris

Жыл бұрын

Or they could just make it so you always get 2 Omni-element Dice so that you can always attack no matter how bad RNG

@WastedTalent83

Жыл бұрын

well, just make switching character, not using up a turn, and you solve the dice problem. Thing is, "there are cards to do that" lol

@CallieBlader

Жыл бұрын

@@Sanguiris there are cards that do this for a few turns

I respect your opinion, for me this is my first card game and I think it’s a pretty fun side game

@fireblade295

Жыл бұрын

Play Magic. Ignore the haters. You'll see how much better it could be...

I completely agree. I got to level 7 already and have a fair amount of cards unlocked, however most of the cards in my deck is just so it can run smoothly. I’ve had turns where I didn’t get a single useable dice. Then others where I had to spend all my dice for a little bit of set up and the opponent wipes me first turn

@Blueniter

Жыл бұрын

Take me for example I threw 8 Dices total of 4 times with Ninguang card and I play Ayaka, Keqinq and Jean. Keqinq was my active card and I got 1 Electric Dice first round vs The Water Spirit Card which summon pesky water minions. The problem I face mostly is - You get the cards but not the dices or opposite. There is No way to wait for next turn if you do not get x2 Paimon Cards which gives you Omni Dices.

I'm doing the TCG like I did the teapot, I've builded it, got my primos, but now, in the teapot I get in once a week to get the rewards and that's it. I think the TCG will be pretty similar.

Interesting points, even if I partly disagree. I’ve never played a TCG, never had any interest in them. Wasn’t very hyped about it before. But I was actually surprised how fun it is. I’ve done more TCG than farming the past week. For a TCG noob it’s easy to pick up because you know the character, elements and reactions from the real game already. I like the dice. It adds enough randomness to the game so it’s not just about grinding the absolute best deck. Part of strategy is to plan ways of dealing with the bad dice rolls. I understand how this could annoy someone. Maybe compare it to really in real game: some very invested meta-math player versus someone who thinks about reactions but plays with the character they like even if not optimal. Longevity issue is real. It’s true that I might not keep playing it if there are no more rewards. In the future I can see TCG being just one part of the game. Like teapot. Or doing weekly bosses or bounties or the abyss run. Adding four duel challenges into the weekly BP is going to keep it as a one more aspect of Genshin. Some enjoy it more, some less, but it’s ads variety and gives more things to do in game.

Yup. The remaining dice should stay there when u end rounds. Not just cards. Maybe also add cards where u draw corresponding to ur remaining dice too. The basic concept of the TCG is fund, but not sustainable in long run

@josephlouisg.bondoc3612

Жыл бұрын

I like this since I play LOR like really there is no left like reset like wtf

@rayzeckz4573

Жыл бұрын

@@josephlouisg.bondoc3612 reset everything n wait to lose

@Jstanillusion

Жыл бұрын

Does the tcg gamemode give primogems? Haven't done it yet.

@StevenCruz711

Жыл бұрын

@@Jstanillusion yes

@Grapejellyification

Жыл бұрын

This is why liben is such a broken card

Finally someone who has the guts to say the truth tcg is simply a new shiny toy to play with just like the tea pot like get your 600 primo and get out

@alicg7829

Жыл бұрын

For me, TCG > teapot/fishing

@kawaiimika7974

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but they are all still great side things to do when you're resinless 💀 You can decorate your teapot and unlock the shop to get extra materials. You can do fishing when it hits you and get yourself some weapons to use. You can play the TCG whenever you feel like it because it's quite a fun game mode.

@RuggedPanther

Жыл бұрын

@@alicg7829 Yeah. The TCG is pretty luck based but it's at least somewhat fun. I could barely get R3 catch before I rage quit on fishing. And the teapot? Never got past trust level 3.

@joaocurado5277

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@@kawaiimika7974 i play it during boring classes

@Manishrana854

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@@kawaiimika7974 yeah agree with you tcg is fun where i could have gotten a dungeon like game mode to use my raiden hu tao with 5* wepons for more than 15mins and not repeat the same floors of the abyss ☠️but yeah tcg is better than tea pot and fishing 😂

Just say goodbye to Genshin tashman. You will never be happy. Just leave forever.

Speaking as someone who both plays fairly casual and loves table top games, I freaking love it. It reminds me a bit of Marvel Champions, which is one of my favorite card games, but absolutely the most annoying thing is the dice. I have Ganyu, who can do great damage, but so far the dice haven't given me much cryo so I've had to use other characters more. Although i don't think it's as unreasonable as you seem to - plenty of games rely half on luck and half on skill, fx; Marvel Champions also has an "energy system" where you "pay" to use you skills, however, you very RARELY won't have ANYTHING to do, AND you always have the option to not take damage a round and heal - this just has other consequences, but regardless, you don't feel as stressed about dying when your hand is unlucky. So yes, I agree that the limit of the energy system is a big issue, but I honestly think it's really fun and I've been spending all my playtime these days on this 😂 Im not a very strategic player, the amount of time I've spent studying MC to get good and get familiar with my chosen character is solely because I have a friend group to play with regularly. I don't want to think that deeply when playing Genshin, so this is sort of the best of both worlds for me. I hope they update it a bit, but i do honestly enjoy it a lot.

@westarrr

Жыл бұрын

If you find yourself with nothing to do in TCG, you are relying way too much on your Elemental Skill. They are rather greedy for usually only doing 1 damage more (and then another 2 when you get your reaction off). Hell, if you're staying on that character to do your burst, you're probably best off just using 2 NA's and then your burst in the next turn, since that would have applied the element you will react off later anyways (in which case, Skill+NA is just 1 more damage and that rarely is the difference between a kill or not)

@moomooha234

Жыл бұрын

@@westarrr if your opponent gets the right dice and you don't every round, they will be doing 1-2 more damage up to 3 times every single round. that adds up over the course of a game and this will make them a lot more likely to win.

@westarrr

Жыл бұрын

@@moomooha234 Without extra rerolls or otherwise fixing dice there is a 83% chance to roll 4 dice of 2 particular elements. No way in hell you get 3 turns where you can not use an elemental skill and a normal attack.

Does this guy ever fought opponent Player deck with his deck build?

@SnakeTGK

Жыл бұрын

He did not go beyond the tutorial. What do you expect ? Tash is done with the game and milking views with drama and bad takes.

I think either ranked rewards (with good rewards even in the bottom tier) or a new system in the matchmaking (currency if you win in the matchmaking + shop for resources) would be great.

@benjaminmallari106

Жыл бұрын

Them putting ranked rewards in TCG will bring us back to the same issue with spiral abyss. In fact, I think TCG is more "anxiety" inducing because it's technically PvP

@chrisgodfrey1880

Жыл бұрын

Good rewards in Genshin? That's just hilarious

@kawaiimika7974

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminmallari106 Not really. Cookie Run has ranking rewards in that arena game mode. They could make it like that. You get primos as you move up the ranks and at the end of the certain time period, you get the rewards based on which rank you're in

@hartonigio69

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminmallari106I agree I think they should double down in the PvP rather than spreading themselves too thin like this sudo PvP without rewards thingy...

@hartonigio69

Жыл бұрын

@@kawaiimika7974 yes, maybe not primogems but like some resin/resource

I'd play the tower defese minigame all the time if it was like the spiral abiss kind of thing. By the way, I try to make decks not RNG dependant by focusing on the normal attack witch uses only one elemental dice and the other two random because I don't like to leave to chance my odds to win (even it's a not super-meta-one-hit-deck). So far so long, I find it fun but i see what you're talking about and understand your point of view and I agree than when there will be no rewards attached it will be gently put in the oblivion.

it's kinda hard to match tcg when no one plays it 💀 only thing that kept me in tcg was destroying everyone I see now there's no one 💀

I disagree. Cards for dice manipulation still require the player to think when to use them and how to make a good combo with characters. There is a risk/reward opportunities, the need for sacrifice sometimes and already insanely strong decks. It's just that you won't see it right away in PvE against easy NPCs. Almost any card game is a kind of gambling with RNG, so the dice system is just another form of it that you don't like. It seems obvious to me that the game is made as a fun mini-game like Gwent in The Witcher 3. It's just like other things in Genshin really, it's not about hardcore 24/7 tournament sweat, but there is still room for messing around with different decks and have fun.

its not what original genshin players signed up for, combat is the most fun part of the game

Oh boy, don’t show this guy to yugioh, where you need to sacrifice half your deck for handtraps and boardbreakers, and GAMES ARE STILL DECIDED BY WHAT YOU DRAW

the more Hoyo refuses to give us end game content, the weirder the game becomes, it doesn't have a clear identity.

Clearly ur bad at the game losing to npc lmao

One big change the could do without doing much is rolling BEFORE you swap out your starting deck Cuz you could swap out your cards to charge up an early pyro attack, and then you don't roll any pyro or omni... and then your whole first hand is completely useless and you just have to either swap character or outright end turn; and then the enemy DOES get lucky and they get an uber combo on their first hand + roll and nearly kill you Imma play it till I get everything but unless they add rewards beyond collecting all the stuff in the TCG, I will never touch it ever again

I downloaded Genshin impact for the combat and storyline not for no card game. Hoyoverse needs to give us a better spiral abyss and Co op mode. I would have even preferred the hide and seek mode permanent with a leaderboard or something.

I played magic cards in the 90's to early 00's. I understand what you are saying mtashed, but I think you are looking at spells as a seperate card. The spells here are mostly an ability of the character. Keqing reminds me of an instant spell with buyback. The game really is about when to swap, when to use a skill and managing resources. Im used to blue black control deck, so maybe its just me, With magic having 60 cards, this one is smaller. Im used to making deck that grants you the bigger possibility to get certain cards and be able to control the game. I dont think this is a card game where you treat your characters as "Summons" or the main attack. This more of a set creature with set instant and sorcery cards based on character to use. SO all you really are drawing are enchanments and spells that give you control. several times i lost in this game was because I made a bad timing not because of resources. this isnt one of those things where you have that creature and you attack. I felt TCG feels so close to Magic the gathering control deck. other than that, I do agree with you. The bigger problem is less option in cards. But its understandable. Think of it this way, if you love TCG cards that are meant to spam a creature, or have that one solid creature which you pump. you wont enjoy genshin TCG. But if youre into timing, playing with probability of optimizing deck, timing attacks, and see creatures as nothing but a card that use for combo to have certain effects to deal damage, then you might like this one. thats the reason everyone has fix damage. the difference is the skills of those cards. Now you are right about rewards. It needs that or it needs a rank match where there is a leaderboard.

@musashimiyamoto9504

Жыл бұрын

He decided he didn't like the game before it came out. Strategy and deck building do matter and every person playing it and making content on it spends a lot of time showing how that matters and how deep the game actually is. Can RNG burn someone, yes, but that is true of poker, black jack, magic the gathering, uno, and almost every other card game that exists or has ever existed. If a poker noob gets four of a kind they will probably win, but you can't really depend on that kind of luck to get you through a tournament. MTashed played it for 5 minutes and is assuming all sorts of things on a game he didn't really try because he likes to complain about his literal work from home million dollar job for a living. Imagine if a co-worker complained about their job to you every day for years. I've actually blocked his channel butI see the click baity thumbnails when I'm not logged in and this one just tilted meda. To each there own everyone can have an opinion and he doesn't have to like the game that is a given, but its like getting a movie review from someone who watched only 5 minutes. He literally said in the video before this he was going to stop complaining and making negative trash content. Stuck just like him quitting the game 5 times a year sticks.

@gregrodrigueziii8075

Жыл бұрын

@@musashimiyamoto9504 to be fair all mtashed criticism is valid. I just think we are seeing things in different perspective. Now in general, i think the genshin community needs more who can critciize the games flaw, when the majority just takes everything that are given to them. I always think such thing is a problem when there is no sense of balance. I mean this is one of the few games where the players defend the devs to an exaggerated manner, to the point they could make the ugliest mini game and they will be praised. Nothing wrong with what Mtashed said, its just, he is looking for a different TCG kind of game. Like I mentioned im used to Blue Black control deck before i quit magic cards early 2000's. So how the TCG is now is okay for me. I could bet that someone who played Mono Red, or red green beatdown magic cards will hate this genshin TCG.

@musashimiyamoto9504

Жыл бұрын

@@gregrodrigueziii8075 That's fair, personally I'm biased and no longer give his opinions the benefit of the doubt. Criticizing Genshin is fine and there are content creators like Walrus or Zajeff who criticize the game and it leads to an interesting discussion, but I think he actually is just drama baiting the community. Its like the 5th time he "quit" the game, then big surprise he starts making videos saying he didn't really quit and is still streaming it, and then in that video starts criticizing people in the "community" for being toxic toward him for having an opinion. Its like how he tells people not to pull on banners because its trash, then pulls on the banner, gets the unit and then makes a whole thing how its not trash. My main point being I don't think his opinions are done in good faith a considerable amount of the time and all he is doing is trying to click bait and rile people.

@96Kohaku

Жыл бұрын

Very good points! I've been playing Invokation a lot for the last couple of days (mostly in coop) and most of the times when I lost, I could point to a certain moment where I made a bad judgment call (didn't swap when I should have, incorrectly predicted the other person's intentions, didn't use a card I had in my deck when it would have been good to do it, etc). Throughout most of my games I didn't feel like the dice influenced my results too much - I can recall maybe two or three games where I truly didn't stand a chance because of how unlucky I was, but that does seem pretty typical for most card games. (Then again, I'm a person who loves resource management games in general, so Invokation is really to my taste haha) Also I am hoping they will add more cards eventually, we'll see how that goes

Nice video. Though i do like the tcg rn, it is interesting hearing a differing opinion than what everyone else is saying

You can always count on Mtashed to ground stuff and keep it real. Good job!

Since you're somone who wasn't excited for genshin to have a TCG, and you've declared you're no longer streaming genshin so you're not as invested, I really couldn't care less about your opinion on whether the TCG will do well.

@ebby3215

Жыл бұрын

Then why tf are u here

Absolutely spot on about everything. I'm only rank 3 (or 4?) and it didn't take long for every match to be the same. Pick a character, find all the dice were of a different element, burn a turn changing, burn all my cards to try and do some damage. Wash, rinse, repeat. Every match is just a DPS race which only works if you have the dice to keep up. I feel like a very simple change to the game could fix it too. Let us keep the leftover dice between rounds. If I have more dice then I have more options and I won't feel the constant need to do as much damage as possible each round because I have the dice to spend on setting up defenses and can make the most out of a bad roll. But as MTashed alluded to, Hoyoverse have a consistent history of doing everything to a level of "close enough is good enough" because they chase too many rabbits at once. If they focussed on polishing something to perfection instead they wouldn't need to bribe everyone to play their game.

@juanhurtado7244

Жыл бұрын

100% This. The cpu waste all his cards and dice buffing, when you can burn all and just attacking and literally is now 3 main cards vs 2 cpu main cards or at least one is with very low hp.

@senseioct8564

Жыл бұрын

Liben card exists

Tldr, mtashed got owned by tutorial Fischl, didn't go play the tcg further for more in depth review of the game.

As a competitive card player i have to disagree. Rng is way more prominent in other card games even without mana. You could just NOT draw a card you need 10-1000 games in a row. Adding the dice isnt bad, especially when theres no ranked system. Its just a little fun aspect for Genshin and you shouldnt be hyper focused on winning and having the BEST deck. Just have fun or dont.

Agree to disagree, I feel like the card game is at least more complex than the combat in Genshin itself lol. You get to mitigate bad rolls by sacrificing cards, you get to make strategic decisions about when to end your turn. Different elemental bursts have different effects and elemental reaction make and even bigger difference. I haven’t played all that much and so far only lost one battle but I won it on second try by adjusting my strategy.

@blackdontcrack5648

Жыл бұрын

That’s what they don’t understand.

@ThiagoHenriqueDS

Жыл бұрын

How is this complex? I've played only the tutorial quest and knew exacly how to build meta decks. Yeah its more complex than knowing that fire + ice causes melt but being more complex than that doesnt make it complex.

@ShinSnipes

Жыл бұрын

It's not complex at all. The game is made to where anybody can hop in and quickly understand how the game works. It doesn't take a genius to understand the rules. It's the fact that the game comes down to complete and utter luck. It comes down to whether you can get good dice rolls every round. I would say that the luck to skill ratio here is like 10:2. It just came out and it already needs a gigantic revamp

@supernova9453

Жыл бұрын

“You get to mitigate bad rolls by sacrificing cards” Yes, you go -5 in card advantage just so you could play the same as your lucky opponent. You would never see this much reliance on luck in other card games

@blackdontcrack5648

Жыл бұрын

@@ShinSnipes complex does not mean difficult Though. When people found out Diluc Mona and Benny still applied in the card game the parts and sequences got put together

it feels like serenitea pot 2.0. im just gonna do it until i get all the rewards and never touch it again

I ve played Yu-Gi-Oh, i ve played hearthstone, i ve played runeterra, this game is honestly fine, there are tons of things you can do even with "shit" dice, most of the cards you play don't need a specific element dice, just 2-3 of the same element. I think tashman just decided he didn't like it before he even played it and thats fine, but at this point he just spreads negativity for no reason.

@jinjaesan9622

Жыл бұрын

Copium

I don't know if I have good luck but I have not run it to a serious problem with the dice system, and I have played it enough to the point where I'm at inazuma now and played against people in co-op. There's a decent amount of cards right now that helps you to reroll the dice or even have garenteed elemental dice for your current active character. Plus the card game was added a week ago so they can still add more cards in future updates and with more cards comes more diverse decks between players

I do like the game casually but may not once I max level it but I feel you. When I play I noticed whenever I have a character as my lead my dice always roll my other characters element trying to force me to switch characters! But like you said I do what I can to mitigate the dice rolls

Mtashed sounds like an employee who always complains about his company by saying a lot of bad things about it, yet he can't resign because he can't find a better paying job..

@Tony-eu2ip

Жыл бұрын

So true XD

I think a good way of fixing it a little would be make the dice universal but have elemental favorability, as in any character can use any dice to perform their attacks but when all the dice are the same as the attacking character, they gain a bonus, for example: this skill deals more dmg, you get 1+ more energy (those points required for a character to use their elemental burst), this character would heal themselves or teammates, draw +1 card. Also, as mtashed suggested, giving us stronger spells to make it more worthwhile to use rather than dumping them to change the dice's element.

@sgt_byte

Жыл бұрын

the game mode's been out for like a week. give it a break. a lot of players are new to card games, and again, it's meant to be a game mode for casual players, not hardcore deck builders. you can't just introduce a game and have all these cards, that would be information overload. and the dice roll I think is pretty unique too. like, you won't hear anyone say they're "copying" yugioh or etc etc they had to start somewhere. even yugioh started w less than 50 cards. cmon.

@FooFooBoss

Жыл бұрын

I like this idea i also believe it would be a good idea to add more spell cards that can revive characters or reflect damage (think "call of the haunted" or "mirror force" cards from Yu Gi Oh)

@stoink_6056

Жыл бұрын

In all honesty, i think they just have to remove that stupid dice reset every round. And also add more card that are very high cost high reward. And also the way mtashed say every mechanic in this game always been build just to be thrown away, As a programmer, I will rage quit to develop this game if my playerbase doesn't treat the thing I programmed the way I put effort into it even if I get a lot of money

@ymw1107

Жыл бұрын

If u had been following leaks, yes that's what they are doing next patch, it's already in progress. Your starting dice would now all be omni instead of random dice roll

@wuck2226

Жыл бұрын

The game should start simple. Before they add complex cards in the future. Yugi Oh is way diff from where it was before and now.

I remember getting to level 4 or 5 and the cat saying their are new cards in the shop...i got so excited only to see it was stupid ass dynamic skins that cost a crap load of coins... but yes this game needs newer ideas and cards not just dynamic skins

I'm having fun with the tcg so far, rocking co-op opponents with Rhodea Lawachurl and Noelle, and I've played a ton of Hearthstone in a while back so I know issues card games have. Flaws that I can see with the tcg is that general cards like Paimon will be slotted into everyone's decks until the end of time because it's too general and good. Hearthstone has a class system so there are deck variety, but for the tcg, because there isn't a class system, my deck is almost 60%~70% the exact same as my opponent. Hoyo could release more cards to improve card diversity, however due to the limiting format and mana system, I think it'll be hard to innovate any kind of expansion pack. With Pokémon tcg, there are deck varieties because each deck consists of two to three energy types, and your opponent might have different type matchups too. Yu-Gi-Oh have monster attributes and monster families to specialize in, and cards that are very good in one deck may not synergize with other decks. With genshin tcg, you can't specialize or experiment with niche deck types. Overall, I think the genshin card game is meant to be a casual rock paper scissors card game.

This channel is turning out to be a doom and gloom genshin channel

@weregretohio7728

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, been saying it for a while. The negativity was getting tedious, so it will be good when he finally goes and plays something he actually likes.

@freddie5005

Жыл бұрын

But Genshin is doomed and gloomed 😂😂😂😂

@Pendaemonium

Жыл бұрын

Well if these out of touch Developers would actually start listening to their Community for ones (outside of their Casual as fuck Userbase from their homeland) then maybe just **maybe** it wouldn't be so "doomed and gloomed" in the first place.

@slasherzone

Жыл бұрын

@Freddie for people who have no life except for gaming then yh

@mdiaz013184

Жыл бұрын

@@slasherzone lol i have no life and have been playing this for 4 months nonstop and still after 100% everything I still find ways to have fun with it...all subjective I guess

Honestly I'm just doing it for the primogems and achievements, once I collect anything I'm probably not going to play it that much, since I was never a huge fan of card games tbh. Well, at least the live 2D art looks amazing, I'm always a sucker for that kind of art. XD

I’m still looking forward to the new cards they come out with, there could be some game changing cards that are put out after everyone gets used to the game. We could all be playing with a beginner deck. But then they all might be character cards.

@WastedTalent83

Жыл бұрын

this is gonna end out like costumes, and fishing. they do a nice start, and they proceed with not giving a fuck after that. Haven't you noticed this on genshin from mihoyo? Its almost faster you get a new nation release than a costume XD fishing even worse, and we still have the SAME expeditions reward since 2.5 years ago.

@rottingmaggots

Жыл бұрын

​@@WastedTalent83 brain dead take alert. The fact that you'd compare genius invocation TCG with the fishing system tells me that you were the type of person to skip kazuha's first banner because you blindly listened to the herd about how he was the 3 star sucrose. Genius invocation TCG is way more in depth than the fishing system. Please don't speak when your ignorance is this apparent. not a good look.. xD. I have faith they will add plenty of updates to genius invocation TCG, just as they've done with the teapot. Also if I remember correctly, mihoyo actually did update the liyue rewards for the expeditions not that many updates ago. so, yeah. your argument is just riddled with fallacies

tbf I used to think the die were the reason i was losing.Yes it was, but as you play more you kinda learn there are still things you can do, I started to reroll die, (you can also get some cardsfor this) and you learn to do as much as you can with the shit die you get given. You can get cards that give omni die, or reroll die, so you learn to use these to your advantage, and learn to make a good situation out of a good one I will say the annoying this is needing a weapon, artifact or attatchment of some kinda and not pulling it, sometimes i pull too many, sometimes i dont.

I definitely agree here. I mostly play because of rewards and its something different in this stale game currently. I definitely liked the beginner deck and thought of like cool skill combos of using Kaeya skills into a burst with the Shenhe kill card and swap into Sucrose then have her swirl and burst into Diluc who gets free melts and its fun when I get to pop off with that...but its so fucking rare because majority of the time I dont get lucky with the dice. I even miss 2-3 rounds and dont get to start woth Kaeya because cryo dice wont roll and its frustrating. Ill mostly keep playing to get all the rewards and mess around with my geo deck but in the end this just feels like the teapot system, people will do it for a while and forget about it aside the weekly visit for transient moon. Such a shame

@glyphgraph8436

Жыл бұрын

The moment i saw that it's a one off level system rewards like the trees, adv rank & teapot i knew i wouldn't look at the tcg much... too little primogems for too much time on card battle..

@senseioct8564

Жыл бұрын

Bro there’s like 15 cards that let you manipulate energy, use them and think ahead before you rush into the game and have energy problems

it's true that genshin's tcg lacks complexity. sadly, it was probably too much to expect that a frustratingly casual game for casual players wouldn't also come out with a fairly basic and casual tcg...

Remember when they first announced the housing system? The teapot? Its permanent too. Its dead now. Only used to get extra resin and friendship points.

@musashimiyamoto9504

Жыл бұрын

There is an active teapot community and there are some big tea pot creators. Its not for everyone but teapot mains exist and right now a lot of them like to publish their designs and share them which they couldn't do before. It's actually pretty impressive how creative some people are with it.

As an MTG player(and a few other from time too time) for over 20 years, TCG's with strategy as the main component are what tend to survive the test of time. You said it perfectly. You can't think several turns ahead 99% of the time with this game. It's frustrating. I'm going to collect the Primo's from it, and then quite! never looking back, unless i'm offered more Primos. And I have almost all the cards, multiple decks and have breezed through the PVE, and even a good handful of PVP online, where the good decks all do the same tactics. I would have loved to see them put all this TCG effort into making a co-op abyss dungeon that they change every 15 days instead. maybe a couple puzzles and a hardcore boss at the end.

Good video. I agree. One thing they can do in the future is to add more interesting cards, or even rework the energy system to make it better. Also I have a feeling, that they will have specific events that reward primogems for the card game and make people play it that way.

@RavenShugo

Жыл бұрын

Looking how hoyo don't want to fix and rework anything in 2 years, it's a slim chance they will do something about TCG

@Blackaquamariene2

Жыл бұрын

@@RavenShugo Expect we already known they will from the leak info.

@impostorsyndrome1350

Жыл бұрын

@@RavenShugo bruh, new cards are leaked for the 3.4, look at things before being a negative copium lord

@FilmFlam-8008

Жыл бұрын

Nah. The dice are fine. He is just bad at the game. He takes about a character getting nuked in the second round and couldn’t do anything. That was because he was still setting up. It’s called a counter. He lost fair.

@beyond5405

Жыл бұрын

@@FilmFlam-8008 The dice really is not a problem. It can be altered so easily

absolutely valid points you make there. I am having fun with it rn but I doubt it will last long. I am already feeling the dice rng pain when I 1v1 my brother. In pve it doesn't matter much, since you can just restart the same game. Genshin is a lost cause. I am personnally planning on slowly decreasing my play time, because it is super annoying not having any medium to use the chracters you pull. I guess I ll just enjoy story when it comes out and stop when there isn't.

@impostorsyndrome1350

Жыл бұрын

Bruh what are you talking about, did you watch too much content of this trash person? What do you mean you can't use your characters? Are they locked behind 9 walls, 10 chains and 100 magic spells? You pull them and you can instantly play them...

@kawaiimika7974

Жыл бұрын

@@impostorsyndrome1350 😂😂😂😂😂

@impostorsyndrome1350

Жыл бұрын

but you probably don't even care what I'm saying bcs you're closed in your own world just like Mtrashed and all other people believing him

@farissan6631

Жыл бұрын

@@impostorsyndrome1350 I am an AR60 player and I have been playing this Baby game for 2 years with on and off brakes and all I am doing is sharing my experience. There is a certain point in the game where it gets too easy, even for someone as casual as me. Dude I don't even remember when was the last time my Resin wasn't capped. Probably since 2-3 months at this point. Most of my characters have shit artifacts with less than 20 CV, yet I still manage to beat the hardest content in this baby game every 2 weeks first try. The usability of a character in an rpg is the damage they output on enemies or their usefulness to the team through buffs, heals, mobility, etc. . My poorly built characters can one shot everything in the overworld, which means I can't use them cuz the enemies die while I am setting up before I even use the intended character's skill or burst to check out the number. There is no content to use them on, literally. But that is besides the point. It is plain disrespectful to call someone trash just because that person disagrees with you. The man is having mental health issues because of inconsiderate people like you. He has his audience and he made millions playing paimon game, because he is passionate about it and all the criticism he gives is because he wants to see the game be better. This "Mtrash" probably made more money than you will ever make after graduating. If you don't like him just don't watch him and don't take the time to shit on people in the comments. Your fellow whitekinghts are already shitting on people on twitter and reddit, leave them the only place left to vent their frustration. Your time is probably better wasted decorating your teapot or role playing character ships with your online friends. No judging, but not everyone enjoys the way you like to play.

@kawaiimika7974

Жыл бұрын

@@farissan6631 He makes money off of drama. And people tend to be attracted to negativity more than positivity. His only positive videos lately were when he got Tighnari, Kokomi and Keqing in almost the same time. Everything else is just him complaining and repeating the same things over and over and over again. And the reason the game is easy for you is because you've already built your characters well enough to clear any domain and you use those characters to get the artefacts and materials for new characters. If you were to use your newer characters exclusively without their sets and talents the game all of the sudden get's hard DOESN'T IT! The game isn't built around the difficulty constantly ramping up, it's building up to the point where you can clear Abbys floor 12 with 9 stars, and that's it. Now do we need higher optional overworld levels, yes we do. But is anyone going to advocate for that. No. Why. I have no clue. But that's probably because they don't want to make players feel like trash just because they want to explore the world a bit and make them feel like they can't beat the game.

Is this TCG multiplayer or co op? Like a pvp card game? Sorry I haven’t tried it yet.

As a veteran tcg player with some competitive experience and a few tournaments under my bet I think mtashed is right. The game is cute but it’s nothing more than a mini game right now. There’s not enough depth to make it competitive even if you wanted to. Anyone who has played MTG, especially the old school Richard Garfield mtg, knows that a great competitive card game comes out of an environment where the rng is extremely bridled and controlled. Honestly it’s clear that the guy is harshly burned on genshin and I don’t feel the same since I barely get to play 30 to 60 minutes a day, I’m still behind on so much stuff, but the guy’s got a point. A lot of the content in genshin is meant to be played once or twice to claim the gems and there’s not much replay value to anything beside the spiral abyss, the daily commissions, and maybe the bounties. And giving mtashed or any other creator that says this a load of crap because they speak their mind is literally shooting yourself in the foot. He’s right. Hoyoverse needs to do more and needs to do better. This game deserves it and the players deserves it as well

@zanzatbc

Жыл бұрын

@@winghong3 you are correct in the assumption that in magic, mana is a big part of deckbuilding. but by having the energy system being part of the cards in your deck, mtg actually adds a lot of diversity to it, while keeping the rng element in a tight grip. It’s a long story and I don’t want to bore you but basically there are many ways to produce “energy” in mtg, or as we generally call it, mana. Not every card that produces mana is a land and there’s a lot of “engines” that are able to dish out infinite mana or very fast and precise mana ramps to speed up your game in the first 1 to 4 turns. Also, when you place a mana source on the field, like a land, the type or types of mana that land/artifact/enchantment/creature produces will always be the same, or at least will always follow specific rules, allowing you to make precise calculations regarding your mana pool. A set of 8 dices that you roll every round is a lot more unstable and uncontrollable as a form of energy generation. Even heartstone, one of the games that tried to cut the energy generation and management to the bare minimum, decided to go for a method where the energy is extremely controlled, and easy for the player to calculate in advance. I could go more in depth and we could also look at other card games such as Pokémon to analyse this concept further, but I don’t want to bore you or sound pedantic

I hve completed the TCG completely even every single serious cooldown. Even now only one achivement of collecting 150000 coins remaining. I have 96% of achievement completed. Now I am just going to do guest battle every week until my achievement get 100%. And I am not gona do anything else with this mode. I did this for just primogems which is maximum 10 pulls even after completing all of its achievement. I am not interested in it anymore. And co-op, not a chance. I am not interested in its co-op mode.

@banditdoggo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah coop is ruined by ayaka and yoimyia combo. Ayaka can atk and melt your whole team in one go and I haven't play it since that meta appeared

@vivekdubey7920

Жыл бұрын

@@banditdoggo their is also a triple geo deck which I used to clear every.

Lol t g already died for me I ain't even getting the rewards it's like tea pot to me

@Thearmiktz

Жыл бұрын

Bro I enjoy the tea pot but there isn't RNG there...

@garvkhullar1703

Жыл бұрын

@@Thearmiktz by tea pot I meant it's just kept there and I will never go there at all to play /build something

@good-cl6pt

Жыл бұрын

I surprisingly really enjoyed the tcg

I like the idea of the dice, but adding more options to mitigate bad rolls is good. Maybe the guarantees you get from things like artifacts / locations are built into the system. Some ideas: -Before rerolling, you are automatically given 1 Elemental die matching each one matching the element of your 3 characters. When a character is knocked out, it gives you 1 of the current active character's element in the place of the knocked out character's element. (If this overkill when combined with mulligan (which it probably would be in mono-element decks), maybe just make 1 guarantee matching active character, then +1 for each knocked out character, OR only apply to one element at a time not counting the knocked out rule) -On the very first round, choose your character AFTER you roll. Pretty indefensible it isn't already like this. -Elemental Tuning (sacrificing a card to convert energy) applies to up to two energy at the time (or maybe just on the first time you use it during a round, if that's too strong.) Some cards may need their effects changed to make them viable. Then again, there are cards in the game which are bad without considering that (how many people are running 3-cost artifacts anyway?). Another approach, which is harder to balance by far, is to give die of various elements special benefits, so they don't feel dead when you get them. Like spending an anemo die to switch characters causes it to not take a turn. Seems like this would backfire pretty bad if the benefits weren't weak though (which the example I listed is not).

Genshin TCG + all of the achievements is exactly like fishing or the housing system in my eyes. If you're one of those endgame players who want to get their hands on every primogem you can, you're gonna want to do the achievements in the game to get those primos, but it's ridiculous that you need to put in so much time for some of the TCG achievements (some of them requiring victorious matches so further increasing playtime if you lose). The game is so slow and boring, it'd be more entertaining to watch paint dry. And there are those people that'll say "you aren't playing the game right" but how can you play the game right if literally 99% of what happens in the game is pure RNG? It's EXACTLY like the gacha system. Some players are unbelievably lucky while others end up scraping the bottom of the barrel and doing all they can to get the character they want. Just like TCG. You roll the dice, barely get any that you need, do a reroll then only get enough to do one attack before ending your turn. Such a shame how that's our endgame

It's trash the hour long tutorial aggravated me. Not to mention how slow the game is. It's more of a chore than fun.

Massive “skill issue” moment here. Genshin TCG’s most important skill is learning how to adapt, and it definitely gives you the tools to do so. And as a self proclaimed “universal good cardgame player” Ive personally only ever had 1 loss I blamed on RNG out of a hundred or so games, most which were wins. I say this not to brag, but to establish that you can in fact outskill a lot of the issues he’s complaining about and I don’t think its fair to fault the game just because it asks more from you for some hands.

I enjoyed the card game up until level 7 got my first loss...maybe my luck up until now has been good as I didnt realize the issues this game had until watching this vid...still fun though(i do hate fighting human opponents as it seems their luck is amazing with the cards and dice they get also cant see what moves they are going to make)

This is a very valid argument, the Dice add a exstra layer of randomness thats not really needed, add to that the cost of most cards and skills is 3 energy and u have a game thats all about attacking once and then playing 1 card if u have the right dice and it feels very boring after a few matches. The fact u have to grind to be able to buy new cards or get them from NPC's alot is also a turnoff for me. If they want to make this mode a real succes they need to rebalance it ALOT for future content and thats gonna take time they might not be willing to spend on it. I'm curious to see how it will go.

With TCG, the same thing will happen that happened with the "dates" that were made to reveal 4* characters. How long ago was the last "date", at the end of Inazuma with Kuki Shinobu. And they all forgot to hell about it all while doing this TCG doing something else, and so it will be with these cards.

@LuZErTX

Жыл бұрын

Last one was heizou

@TangledRivers

Жыл бұрын

Last one was Heizou right before Sumeru’s release. Only five 4* characters have been released since. They’ll add more hangouts soon. Nothing ‘happened’ to hangouts. They’re still a popular game mechanic.

I mean the card game still new, it's fair to wait for it to become more complicated. The game is like a second tea pot, Hoyo will definitely update this casually, there are so many other cards that they teased in the trailer, we don't what they do and I do think it's fair to enjoy it.

@FilmFlam-8008

Жыл бұрын

Because they really expanded the teapot. Or fishing. Or the hangouts. This will be minimally supported in a few months.

Are u even try blue protocol cbt yet?

I reached player lvl 6 and lost only once against the guy with 2 Maidens in Inazuma and once against a friend. I won every time where I used all my cards to change the dice and lost when I tried to play the cards so I’m probably not gonna play it much anymore. It took all of my playing time too. What I want is combat of pvp with the characters I took so long to build , not cards that took me 3 days to get.

my only complain is it's too slow: rolling dice is slow, using support card is slow, the announcement like " your enemy will start first" can't be skipped.

Mtashed is the prime example on why you never build your career in a single thing, now that he doesn't seem to enjoy the game as much/the game doesn't have the kinda content he wants to make, he cant just switch games, cause nobody will watch him and his channel will die.

@MTashed

Жыл бұрын

I'll be fine lmao. Literally just waiting for a new game. I've always popped off with new games

@kakerumasumoto3275

Жыл бұрын

Truth

@KoritsuShita

Жыл бұрын

@Mtashed We will still be watching you even of you don't play Genshin anymore so please don't force yourself to play the game if you really don't want to, What brought people to start watching you in the first place is not just Genshin but the way you are being yourself. Your commentary, personality, and honesty you fun to watch so I would gladly watch you play other games and I actually really want to see that. People just hope you don't quit Genshin because they had a lot of fun watching you play it and so do I and if you disappear I feel like the community just won't be the same anymore. People think of you as that one guy who plays, commentates, and makes guides over Genshin and your fun to watch so they don't want you to go.

@nyawawarik7624

Жыл бұрын

@@MTashed said the dude who threatened to quit the game since last year but until now majority of vids is still abt genshin

@catsouplover7745

Жыл бұрын

@@nyawawarik7624 lmao true, mans been saying he is done with genshin since inazuma, literally cried when end game content was quote on quote "denied" by genshin devs and makes 100 clips a day, and 7 videos a week complaining about the game, he knows his non genshin vides flop. I guess he is just gonna wait for the next wagon to jump on and save face. This is what happens when you build your followers around the game you play and not around yourself.

they should make it optional to download the TCG content, cause for me it will just take up space. I got to level 5, played against some friends, and with friends I will get more into it than NPCs, but im still not driven enough to go out of my way to level up, even WITH primos waiting for me. It's just meh. I have way more fun in windtrace with friends and i could legit play for hours on end without the rewards on there.

personally I love the dice system but then I'm pretty sure I've never had a game lose because of some bad rolls if there's no energy I need I'll usually have some trash cards I can sacrifice to get the correct energy types but 9 times out of 10 I'll usually have the energy needed to play at least 1 of the cards I want to play, switch characters, and then use at least one of the attacks I want to use about 50% of the time I can play multiple cards and then do multiple attacks without a single card spent to tilt the energy in my favour now, it's entirely possible that I've just gotten lucky, not gotten any particularly bad rolls yet but so far I feel like there's enough of a safety net built into the game itself that a couple of bad rolls really doesn't matter all that much. as for deck homogeny I'd say that's currently just because the game is fairly new and there just aren't that many cards yet (and most people probably don't even have them all yet). a bunch of cards (looking at the weapon and artifact cards) are just sets with some just being straight upgrades over others. once the game has been out for longer, updated a few times, ect, there should be more deck options resulting in more deck variety. now, this might just be an indication that I'm building my decks badly (though I'd expect to be losing if that's really the case) but I find that my decks often differ pretty wildly from the decks that I see the AI bringing to the table. perhaps playing against other players is different but I can just go off of what I know. ultimately my deck is an Oceanid/Fischl deck where the summons just trigger electro charged during all the end turns allowing me to chip damage the enemies to death, I find it super satisfying. some more interesting spell cards would be nice though

I get your points. thats why i use a deck wich is not centered about chars rather than centered to generate & convert dice or avoiding using dice: double rosaria double ningguang, all 4 paimon cards, double Jade chamber, double parametric transformer. thats the way to go. i only lost one multiplayer match since release with that.

I hate the TCG…why?? Give us content for our 3d characters we brought for lot of money!

@nikhilr.fagedia4678

Жыл бұрын

true that

@evilyohoverse150

Жыл бұрын

Genshin needs endgame content.

@veraoliva972

Жыл бұрын

You brought it with money ? 🗿

tldr, mtashed can't make a content out of the tcg so he rant about it and made it a video

If you want a good example of adding a new gamemode and it being super successful and get supported with new characters added you can look at elysian realm in honkai impact. They tested out the mode with on and off events and then added it permanently with streamlined mechanics and a really good story to back it up.

I mean “I like” the TCG but I really don’t “love it” like some trading card game enthusiasts would. In the end I’ll probably play to get all the cards & rewards for, admittedly, just something to do in general.

When people ask why hate the tcg..? Like bro this game has 3d characters that you pay and build to use. For tcg, make it a seperate game. TCG is like playing football in a baseball Rugby stadium.

@SnakeTGK

Жыл бұрын

Do you say the same for other rpg games like RDR 1 & 2 or the witcher ? They also have very detailed fun &/or intricate side game. Why genshin can't have the same treatment ?

@rishirajukil236

Жыл бұрын

Because, those have everything with some side mini games. Genshin doesn't have end game content, it is full of mini games.

@palplays1220

Жыл бұрын

@@SnakeTGK those games also have truly challenging combat (should you choose higher difficulty) that you spend most of your time gearing and leveling for. Then you can go do the side games. Those games prioritize there combat and story first. Genshin has no difficulty scaling past Max world lvl which becomes trivial once you are geared so you cant challenge yourself at max lvl. Genshin gives you story ever patch but what about combat? Radio silence for a system that should get as much attention as the story. When I log onto Genshin I shouldn’t be looking at the card game to give me more gameplay and enjoyment then the actual core gameplay the game was built around. You said it yourself it’s a side game. People wouldn’t be so critical if it really was just a side game but Mihoyo don’t give you anything to actually fill your time with(aka combat with the characters you pay for) so people are looking at this as if it’s a cornerstone of the game which it’s not it’s a side game.

@SnakeTGK

Жыл бұрын

@@palplays1220 The fuck ? rdr , witcher and challenging combat in the same sentence ? are you high ? These games are story driven all the same and there is no endgame too. You frabicate stuff on the run. You can complaint for not having new combat gamemode, but what do you care if there is a new card game on the side ? Just don't play it and move on.

@evilyohoverse150

Жыл бұрын

@@SnakeTGK Genshin is a live service gacha, whiteknight, those are not. Learn the basics.

There's a card that make you get the dices you want especially for standby character and let you get less rng dices it's like you get 2 dices that aren't the element you want

@ironheadedDoF

Жыл бұрын

But that was covered in his vid- people use the same cards to mitigate the dice problem.

@kikinomedia7592

Жыл бұрын

@@ironheadedDoF i know, but let's not forget the crad game just released recently there's a big room for improvement like there's only a few cards and few character cards and monsters so let's give it time and see. And always the community have the power to make the feedback

@malmal26

Жыл бұрын

@@kikinomedia7592 the last time the community had the power to make any change was when zhongli got released. they dont give a shit about player feedback

@kikinomedia7592

Жыл бұрын

@@malmal26 and in the anniversary about the rewards yeah to be truthful they are kind of greedy especially with primosnwe get 1 gold every single patch in the banners and now we have rerun banners at least 2 golds in a single patch but in what I see, that they doing there best to improve

@joshuam.6027

Жыл бұрын

@@malmal26 and mind you, its the CN community that really let the devs to do some meaningful changes to Zhongli, half of it is due to national pride. They'll sit and relax until their loyal CN playerbase is enraged or else they'll lose majority of the profits if they ignored them. lol

this is exactly it for me tashman. I'm here looking for content to do in 3.3 and can't find anything to do. completely forgot the TCG existed.

Thx for talking about it I might experience it in 2 years or something when I finally feel like doing it

I think it's great! ...as a separate hoyoverse game, with a separate app/launcher. Maybe in-game progression could influence things but having an "inspired by" mini game INSIDE the reference game is an awful idea (from my experience as a warframe player (conclave? Frame fighter? Never heard of 'em))

Lol it is hilarious the points mtash is making. He clearly didn’t even play the card game and has no clue what is going on. He has no idea on how to resource management

I agree wiuth you. WTF are they doing? The misty Dungeon offer 0 challenges, so i felt just annoyed running around. We couldn't even use our own characters collection if we wanted. The TCG is fine, but it feels useless given the absence of end-game content. I'm not playing Genshin to play cards.