Excellent discussion on your thoughts and feedback. Ignore the stupidity of people hiding behind their computer to upload insults. You have a unique high end audio channel. Keep up the great content!

Jay, I truly enjoyed the Pandora/Mephisto combination! I will Pray you find what you are looking for! Always follow your gut calls and don't allow double mindedness to take hold! Love your passion!

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

As usual... another great video, with down to earth, honest, useful information. Thanks Jay👍

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Thank you for taking us along on your Gryphon journey, Jay. It is because of your reviews that I actually purchased a Diablo 300…thanks!

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Kevin

The sales tax alone on this process would probably buy a typical single family home.

This is a unique channel, no reference system, but a continuos exploration and matching of ultra hi end components. A sound journey. Love it.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

@Piyath thank you

@hushpuppykl

3 жыл бұрын

I realize after watching this channel that we all have a sickness. It’s upgrade-titis. Hehehe … Yeah … it’s a great channel. It feels more personal, more real …

@scottkasper6378

3 жыл бұрын

You’re absolutely right. And my offer to bring jay whatever beer he drinks still stands.

after 25 years of screwing around with different hifi components, i now have a complete 'audio note uk' system. best decision i ever made!

I hope you will keep your Wilson's... classic gems and probably hard to find... can't wait to see what's next... thanks for all of your expert analysis!

Look forward to what is coming next. I guess the Soluution's amplifier(s).

I purchased a Diablo 300 for my new system and thanks to Jay i also got the VIP interconnect and speaker cables which i have to say is a great match. Driving a pair of power hungry Thiel CS 3.7s, bass is unbelievable with the Diablo 300! All of my power cables are Audioquest Firebird.

@danlivni2097

2 жыл бұрын

How do you like the Thiel 3.7S speakers

@bricedoan6695

2 жыл бұрын

@@danlivni2097 They are my favorite ones, i've had several Thiel speakers since 1997. My favorire speaker brand even though they do not exist anymore. Jim Thiel is my all time favorire designer.

It's to bad that you don't compare using vinyl? Would love to hear the Gryphon phono stage in the Pandora and others.

The quality of the musical signal coming out of the source component defines the ultimate ability of a hi fi system. Every other audio component in the system merely passes on this signal with greater or less accuracy None can enhance or improve it. With that being said, you will probably never find an amplifier that completely satisfies you.

Jay, If possible - I kindly recommend you to give a try to YPSILON products. I have purchased Ypsilon Phaethon Integrated and it really sounds super close to sound like a powerful SET amplifier (I had 25-30 SET tube amps in the past). Recomended

Hi Jay! I know it would have been too much to ask, but I wish you had the opportunity to try the DAC Kalliope in combination with Pandora and Mephisto ... In any case, thank you very much for your channel ever! I join Giuseppe's opinion. Greetings from Madrid

Hi Jay. With all your experience with great amps, I was wondering if you've found a correlation between what you consider "good sound" and amp's damping factor. Some top notch brands believe DF is fundamental, while some other, don't really. Your experience on this would be an excellent stand point. Thanks!

Jay has the pipes you need to work with such heavy equipment. Match made in heaven!

Great channel just subscribed, I would really like to hear your thoughts on ASR Emitter along with some Tenor Amps. It would be really cool if you could have some videos on setting up good budget systems for people getting into this hobby

The title of this video scared the hell out of me, i thought there are some serious issues that the gryphon might have. The Essence stereo and preamplifier is the gear i am going to buy.

Stepping into 2022 it’s funny how this video relates to the new Gryphon Mephisto Solos you now own and the Wilson XLF you just removed and replaced. We never really know the future.

Thanks Jay for bringing all the Gryphon amps in your cave😊 Now its time to move on into the new chapter like Soultion 7 series or Lamm Industries or Audionet or Burmester to bring. Happy listening.🤘

Thanks for the Gryphon round up, I’ve been looking forward to it. It did take me a bunch of videos to figure out that the thing that looked like an air purifier was actually the Colosseum 🙂

its amazing how much time of your life you could save if you watch yuoutube videos in 2x the speed! Get the point twice as fast and get the point sooner, then move on! thank you Jay

@jaysaudiolab

8 ай бұрын

Good tip!

No mention about their 300 integrated and where it falls in lieu of their separates? I did see the review of the 300 integrated

Hi Jay, I just bought Esoteric N01xd with Accuphase E-800 and Focal Sopra 2, can u recommend some cables for me please? I listen to everything.

Excellent Jay, thanks

Great sum and content

Yep, "end of game..." Time to sit down, relax and listen to music.

This is absolutely a unique channel and one if the best and most enjoyable.

What are you looking for from a sound system that you haven't found yet that keeps you searching that's missing?

@TheOrthodoxMachine

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly - is there still better to be had out there? Jay is on a serious mission!

I have a pair of Wilson Watt 3 puppy1. Also a pair of Witts. I need a sub. What in the used market can you recommend. Watch Dog??? Not a huge budget

sounds like you can best Bi-amp with the Mephisto on the bass?

Thanks so much for everything you do jay. you definitely get to play around with a level of equipment that i just dont think i get to ever afford. love the reviews and opinions im really impressed that you have strong opinions i often lament that when i go into a poorly run audio shop the guy there may as well be the netflix algorithm and dont really challenge me as a consumer. was wondering if you listened to the musical fidelity titan monoblock back when they were floating around. i never heard them but had that stereophile mag with them in there and was pretty in love at the time!!

@jaysaudiolab

11 ай бұрын

Thanks

I use 3 x Theta Citadel for the front channels of my theater set up. They are desktop computer shaped. Have to say, I'm impressed with them driving my Dunlavy SCV's. No complaints for the price.

Jay, another great post. Do you have a post on those new Magico's? How do they compare to your beautiful orange Wilsons?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't use them with xlf

Hi everyone, I'm seeking some unbiased opinions. I currently own Sonus Faber Amator III speakers and have two options available to me. The first is a Gryphon Diablo with a built-in DAC, priced at 100k NOK from the dealer, which I'm considering. The second option, from another dealer, is an older Diablo 250 with RIAA but no internal DAC. However, it comes with an AURALIC ALTAIR G1.1 streamer/DAC and Nordost XLR cable for 70k NOK, making it the cheaper option. My question is: in terms of pure sonic performance and synergy with my Amator III speakers, which amplifier would be better? Would the older but more powerful Diablo 250 outperform the newer technology Diablo 120, or vice versa? I understand that in terms of pure synergy, the Gryphon Diablo with the built-in DAC might be superior, but it comes at a 30k higher price tag

Man, love this channel I've been into HiFi for 50 years and never herd someone talk with such conviction and knowledge the beautiful thing is Jay isn't trying to sell you nothing so he's opinion cares a lot of weight keep up the good work!

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Jay.. it would be beneficial to add the topologies used in these amplifiers for the output stage since it affects the character of the sound. Bipolar, MOSFET, VFET, etc… This would help narrow down the type of sound some are looking for. Many of these boutique brands are a mystery when it comes to details of the design. I enjoy the wide variety of amps and other equipment you review and discuss. I don’t have access to most of these brands locally and haven’t been to a hi-Fi show in many years, so it’s nice to see this gear in a user environment. Thanks!

@jameswarren1831

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, The engineering of the amps is generally left as a mystery, they are always opened up but no gain stages or output devices are shown. It's like talking about clothing and how it feels and looks but never talking about the material used to create the garment.

Gryphon is my favorite hifi. you really had a great journey with the Danish brand. 👏

Thank you Jay

Glad you’re moving on. You really spent your time listening to their lineup, time to see what else is out there.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

That was my point

Jay, if you had to decide ….what was your favorite Gryphon power amp (in combination with the Pandora) with Wilson speakers ? 🖖🏼

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

That is going to be addressed on a future video :)

@bikemike1118

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab okay…. 😎

This obsessive level of audiophilia gives me anxiety

@Sloimer

Жыл бұрын

Same.

@BruceCross

3 ай бұрын

Yes, if I were driven as hard as Jay, it would tear me apart.

The most recent edition of Hi-Fi News & Record Review reviewed the latest Mono Power amp and Pre-amp from CLASSE AUDIO. The reviewer was completely blown away by how good they sounded. Would you consider reviewing them?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Sure

@reidbounsall9098

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab Sounds good. Thanks, Jay. I appreciate your reviews!

Terrific video! Very thoughtful introspect on your journey with Gryphon components and a very positive final note on your experiences with the brand. I was anxious to listen as I thought you had a bone to pick. On to different - not necessarily better - pastures....but who knows, a few jewels will surely come up along this fantastic ride. Cheers!

Where does it end? And just as important imo... Where does it lead to? At some point....

Why don't you start playing with the resistor settings in the rear of the speakers J? Are they at default, or were they dialed in upon set up?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Wilson advised not to mess with them

@bjhemingway5496

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab Therefore, Wilson knew that the resistor configuration was optimized for your gear and room upon ordering? They are in the rear for a reason, I would think. Perhaps it is optimized for the grand majority of setups. Please educate me J, or anyone else.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

@@bjhemingway5496 they don't advise of anyone touching them before you buy the right amps and preamps first

@bjhemingway5496

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab Understood

hello,have you own the Colosseum?I work with Gryphon since the mid 90´s,and steady for the last 9 years in a store called Ultimate Audio,did many shows with gryphon,and other brands that we represent and for me Gryphon electronics are still in the podium,especially if you have Rockport speakers.And BW 800D3 with Anthelion Evo is amazing match.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Please see my early videos of my channel where you can see the colloseum

I have B&W805D3, planning to upgrade the amplifier. I mostly listen to pop music. Which of the following amplifier would be suggested? 1.) Gryphon Diablo 120 2.) Hegel H390 3.) Used Classe CP-500/CP-800 Pre Amplifier + CA-2200 Amplifiers Appreciate any opinions

@jaysaudiolab

11 ай бұрын

Diablo

@iankemp73

11 ай бұрын

Rotel ...RB991

Try Karan…. I have owned Audio Research, Gryphon, Krell, Tenor, Pass, a.o….. The Karan blew me away 🤩

Can you do a review on a German brand called Analog Domain ? They have a 4kw amp that would be interesting to hear about.

I notice a damping device on top of the amps? What are they?

@michaelw3090

3 жыл бұрын

Artesania discs to dampen vibration. Artesania is a Spanish manufacturer making very high end racks. Google the name...

The share price of Gryphon probably fell by 20% on the day this video came out.

You are missing on FM acoustics , Soulution and CH Precision

nice journey , hi from Greece

Hello Jay, another terrific review of the Gryphon line. There is absolutely nobody who has done the sort of careful listening that you’ve done and then tried it with many top notch cables. I will never forget the Essence monos and the Magico M6 combo, wow! That was such a great combo, and for me, one of the best on your channel. Thanks for all the hard work in bringing to us this out there magical gear that the majority of us will not be able to afford, unless one of us wins the Lottery! So thanks a million for bringing us cutting edge gear, and pairing it up with other super quality gear. You’re the best Jay. Take it easy, and keep up the good work.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Any thought on setting up links on your Community page to what you have for sale before putting them on the public for sale sites?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

I am thinking of that

Jay, Mis mejores deseos en busca de Holy Grial del audio, espero tu lo encuentres🤜.

I think that you should try Rega amps now...

Hi, sure you owned all of them? What about S100 and pre Elektra?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Old stuff. Nobody buys that

Could it be because Flemming once joined Nelson for coffee and a friendly chat?

Why did you never try any of they're loudspeakers if you liked they're pre and power amps so much? They make whole systems unlike Magico and Wilson.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe it's a wise investment.

I dont think I can afford to watch this channel

Where are you selling the Gryphon components?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

I'm selling them privately to serious buyers

Jay , after i follow your channel , i sell my Classe system .. I buy Gryphon Antileon , Gryphon Athena and Gryphon Scorpio ...

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Good !

What about the Gryphon audio Apex?

How do you jump from one to the other amp speakers etc, without breaking the bank?

maybe there are some ideas to use Lamm monoblocks? 😊❤️

Very nice system hi end...

You've owned the best of the best , what else can you possibly buy that's going to satisfy you ?

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Don't know yet

@danielhifi3147

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab T+A is the only thing left. Best saved for last.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielhifi3147 maybe

@danielhifi3147

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab If you try them you need the High Voltage line... skip everything else. Class A for first 50 watts.

Its time that the Naim Statement gets an airing...?

you need to try Spectral Nagra or Audio Note UK. + maybe Kalista

I think Rowland makes better looking equipment. Really works of art, and I have always loved the sound and comparing to some of the price points out there represent excellent value.

Did something happen between you and Gryphon or the dealer. Didn’t understand your rationale

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing

@billiondollarbaby3276

3 жыл бұрын

Gryphon dumped all their old dealers for your info. Many people lost their source (Dealer) for Gryphon. That means no good deals to be had

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

@@billiondollarbaby3276 yep. You're correct

Jay, can I suggest a series on Jeff Rowland products? I'm curious to hear your take on JR after hearing the Gryphon, Boulder, and Pass Labs gear. Also, how about a review on some of Legacy Audio's top speakers with DSP, like the Aeris, V, and Valor systems? Again, I'd love to hear your thoughts compared to your Wilson's and Magicos. Legacy Audio is a brand with a long history that I think gets overlooked in the industry, and there aren't many reviews out there. Curious to see what you are getting into next!

I just can't figure out what Gryphon dislikes so much about Leon?

Personally I'd love a pandora/mephisto combo one day

Are you done?

Jay could you do some subwoofer reviews? I struggle with subs. I’ve done dual subs… Small subs to my current 15” single sub. Do you prefer to get sub signals directly from the speaker terminals or from sub outs via rca cables? Maybe you don’t even used subs for your music system and only use it for theater…

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

I don't use subs unfortunately

@BrianGarside

3 жыл бұрын

Try some REL's. High level inputs are going to match the main speakers much better than a LFE .1 RCA feed. Rhythmic I think has High level as well as KEF.

Ok, you're done with Gryphon.... Its all the same because nothing bettered the Boulder mono's with Wilson on this channel so far to date. Patiently waiting.

Hope you get rid of Wilsons soon too. Probably great, but uninteresting (IMHO)

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

They will stay for sometime. There is nothing better for under 100k. Don't worry

Good review which I like over shootout. Please look into affordable prices for amplifiers like audionet

What about their speakers? I haven’t seen any reviews on them.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody buys them lol.

@zencoatlrios2648

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab Search pages from Hong Kong, Vietnam, Malaysia, Japan. There are many comments and reviews about those speakers and speakers and amplifiers more expensive than these, Jay thinks he is the center of the world lol, he could not even have a Pilium Hercules or a Goldmund Telos 5500 much better (by far) than a Boulder 2150 and slightly better than a 3050 according to my experience ( I listened to them with a Magico Q7, Focal Grande Utopia and Marten Coltrane Supreme). But it's still fun to see how his path evolves at the end of the HIFI.

@zencoatlrios2648

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysaudiolab I sounded like a hater, sorry. You do a great job.

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

@@zencoatlrios2648 no problem

"Courtin' is hardship, & parting is woe..."

I make amplifiers myself, now I use a great amp and I want some new amp anyway, so I understand you

klipsch is a live sound you can adjust them to your liking with an equalizer, without a doubt for home cinema I use them with a yamaha Class AB and a CROWN XLS1002 class D without any noise with a great sound there really is no reason to spend tons of money buying Luxman, Accuphase E 380, Gryphon Diablo 300 with a DISTORTION

Best system

the mephisto and antileon mono DO NOT sound exactly like their stereo brethren. You are missing something by omitting these in your journey …

@jaysaudiolab

3 жыл бұрын

I don't feel like trying more Gryphon. I'm done

Try Nagra, Audio Note and Spectral.

Go for the music

What I am hearing is that all of these extremely expensive components sound different. If the ideal is the "straight wire with gain" goal, then these systems fail. In a blind test where the price tag that gives you boasting rights is hidden, I'd bet there is a $20,000 system that sounds just as good as a $500,000 system.

Time for an Apex and Commander

Thomas and Stereo for the Hi End.

Jay you have been stellar with featuring Gryphon, the premier Danish amp manufacturer. Everyone, there is a simple reality regarding hi end components. It's far easier to package American brands ( USA & Canada) than European brands to make a deal for a new purchase. Again, this truism applies to high end. European amps, speakers, cables, dacs all sell well new, but their value doesn't hold compared to american lines. This is due to the fact that high end dealers carry three times as many american brands as they do European.

MBL!?!

AudioNet Stern and Heisenberg!!

To me, Gryphon is not my end game system. It just sound “unnatural” to me. I will be happy with a FM Acoustics Pre/amp set, even their entry level is musically more satisfactory than Gryphon or other big names out there

Toss the gryphons!

Gryphon Are You Breaking Up With Me? 😂

Dear Gryphon, I think we need to take a break. it's not you... it's me

You are just contradicting yourself when u said you are done with Gryphon. If Gryphon are awesome as you mentioned, why gave up on it, I still don’t get it