I agree with Scooter. I’d like to add that if everything is “tuggy” you might not be prepping your face correctly or using the razors incorrectly. Good luck

Holy cow what a stretch of bad luck. It's heartening however to see the members of the community below offering to help:)

@MrDannycoutin

5 жыл бұрын

Well there is not really much help for anyone can do for him deff no one is gonna send him a $300 boker or dovo for him to find out what a good razor feels like

Wouldnt you know after one or two razors to stop buying cheap ones??? Also why not mention the brand name of the razor?

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Dexter thanks for watching

With all the money you've spent on crap you could've got a top of the line Dovo or Boker

@madscientistshusta

6 жыл бұрын

mario condello boker suck no dova or nothing.

@RWD.G

5 жыл бұрын

I bought a new DOVO and the blade was bent. Got mad, threw it in the trash, and bought a Thiers :). Best decision I ever made.

@walid7885

3 жыл бұрын

@@RWD.G Duh, Nothing gets close to a Thiers-Issard. Especially the high-end models.

@JimIBobIJones

3 жыл бұрын

@@walid7885 My dovo best quality quite honestly shaves as well as my very fancy "all the bells and whistles" 7/8 singing hollow TI. As long as its properly hollow ground any of the well established names are going to give you a good shape.

@inspectorgadget346

2 жыл бұрын

My first was a Boker. Figured better starting with quality. Though I had a quick learning experience how about Carbon steel and the smallest amount of moisture.

I looked into this and the start up cost and learning curve for proven quality equipment was more time and money then I was willing to expend at the time. There was no way I was cheeping out on a giant razor I was going to be running down my face. We all learn this lesson eventually buy cheap and spend a little bit of money over and over and over again or buy quality and buy once or twice and spend less in the long run. Thanks for your honesty I liked the video.

@ckiefer.0459

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I think the key is finding some one that sells razors that are truly shave ready. I have since found a few guys that are skilled at honing, and all my razors are good to go now

that really sucks that you have had some bad luck, but you got to remember that you get what you pay for. If you try to buy a cheap (price) razor, you're gonna get a cheap (quality) razor. I'd recommend you hold off on impulse buys and save up for a quality Dovo if you ever get the itch for straight razor shaving.

Wait a minute. You stropped the razor before even trying it out after he honed it??? Well there’s your answer dude. You can’t EVEN blame it on the guys honing if you messed with the blade without even trying it after he honed it. You said it in the video, you didn’t really know anything about strops. I’d say you most likely screwed up dudes honing with your stropping.

@jackharvey562

3 жыл бұрын

@the Game, Review and Reallife Channel If you pay someone to sharpen it to be shave ready and strop not knowing what you are doing you can't blame it on them.

I'm just starting to look into straight razors so I don't no that much about them my question is why would you strop the razor if it was just sharpened wouldn't you strop after you used it?

Trick to successfully using a straight razor to shave is easy (1) Grow a beard (2) wear a flannel shirt (3) drink artisan organically grown local coffee (4) Only drink craft brewed IPAs…

I bought a gold dollar a couple of months ago and it’s fantastic! Best razor on the market! It really puts a great point on my pencils! Buy a decent razor!!!!!.

@PANTERALEO56

Жыл бұрын

Your Dixons must have the finest points✏️👌

If you have wicked coarse hair like I do, and you prefer a nice close close shave, all razors are going to tug. Ive had razors that absolutely tear the HHT test to shreds, from multiple pro honers and my self, with all different types of razors. i have never NOT had a razor tug on my beard. Western razors are so thin and springy that on my coarse hair, they bite the hair, bend at the very edge, and then cut through and SPRING back into shape. Thats why your hear that lively sing when your shaving, its the razor snapping back into position. I feel ya on this man. I get much better shaves with DE, but DE blades tug for me as well. In fact, I love kamisoris and Japanese razors because the steel is very hard, and sometimes thick so there is very little flex. You don't get that tugging feel as much. Gillette invented DE shaving for a reason! haha, razors are a pain the ass, but I love them.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Crixus The Gaul thanks for watching! You make some great points.

@markdayoc3907

7 жыл бұрын

Crixus The Gaul good point. A razor is going to give a tugging sensation somewhat. Another thing some razors are far better than others. No offense but these razors displayed in the video are ones I'd walk away from. Shaving using a straight razor is really an awesome thing. I think questions should have been asked to those with experience before all these razors.

have you tried the new shavettes that use cloud / antelope 77 blades? sold on aliexpress

I really like Gold Dollar blades, I’ve honed some ZY blades too and they all shave well off an 8k plus stropping and I use cheap stones from eBay. One thing I’d always recommend is to keep hair short and use a lot of warm water on your face - anything more than a few days of stubble will pull with a straight

Hey Ckiefer this may seam to be an obvious question, but you do know how to use a straight razor? As in the right angle and such, as I know they do not shave the same way my disposable 5 bladed Gillette does. But if you still have that old antique one, which you first showed in the video I might be willing to buy it off of you. The other thing I will ask, is you did have the bevel set in the beginning before you started honing them right? I am asking as I have known guys that did not know these things, from the start and ran into all the problems you just described. But if nothing more you have a nice collection, and they do hold a value from the collectors aspect of things. But please understand, I am asking as a girl who does love a good shave from a straight razor.

i got my straight razor from my barber last year that he recommended.. so i just insert the gillette platinum blade to the razor and had my first straight razor shave myself...gotta say i pretty much did a crime scene on my face for a few times... as time goes by i learnt a lot and became quite good and started shaving for my friends as well .. the good thing that came out of this was that i was able to save money by not going to the barber for a face shave. my signature all time favorite the friendly mutton chops..

I just received my order today from knife kingdom. I was all excited and now I'm looking at it like "you better not be shit" if it is . I hope I can sharpen it . Like is it supposed to be effortless or kind of painful? Cause mine Str8 out the box cuts with a lot of pressure but nothing without and only long hairs not short

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Angel Ortega If a razor is truky shave ready, it should cut short stubble easily without pressure. It should glide relatively smoothly without tugging or pulling. All that being said technique and lather etc. Are all factors as well.

@angelortega4575

7 жыл бұрын

Ckiefer thx looks like I got some sharpening to do

I did my research before buying my first razor. I ended up getting a 8/8 Filarmonica, which is as good as you can possibly buy. My second Str8 was an Iwasaki. And again this is the very best Japanese Straight. I got a set of Shaptons, all the way to their 30k. After that I got numerous antique straights just to experiment with different brands, and I ended up with three or four that were worth keeping. . . You get what you pay for. And if you don’t do research there are a hundred scammers for every fool.

Interesting video thank you I think you are very close to making a breakthrough .

Thieers issard and Dovo make excellent razors. I'm a shaving consultant for a high end barber spa. And sell many straight razors. And shaving with one myself. You get what you pay for. The straight razor I sell maybe high end, but they come from very reputable companies.

try the tap test on a flat surface to check the bevel on those. i think Drmatt has some vids about it. vdry simple.

I have several razors, 3 by Case and several Wostenholms and one Double duck. I hone and strop all of them and they all shave fine.

I've been using a mug, badger brush, and shaving soap since I was seventeen...forty years yet I've never taken the plunge to a straight razor! My hangup is sharpening/stoning/stropping. Have you ever met a hunter-fisherman who can't sharpen a knife? You have now. But I think it's time to make the move. Perhaps in my old age...okay, middle age...I'll have the time and patience to learn the proper techniques. Anyone have any advice of razor models?

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

If you Facebook, here's a link to a honing group. Good group of guys. They can answer all your questions about stones, technique etc. Some of the guys sell shave ready razors for a reasonable price as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. Good luck with your journey into straights. May it go smoother than mine.

I’ve been using a dovo for years and it’s easy to sharpen and easy to use

What did we learn kids? Don't buy something without RESEARCHING

@ckiefer.0459

6 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Garzon Thanks for watching

@jonathangarzon2798

6 жыл бұрын

Wish you the best of luck if you ever try SR shaving again, I'd recommend practicing with a quality razor before you try to get into the whole honing side. I personally DE shave because it's almost as efficient but it's got a bit more error margin (not much), while also letting you get the feel for blade angle

CKeifer, I just saw your vid. Not sure how you've developed since filming 9 months ago. I found your video interesting because I made several of your mistakes in the beginning of my journey. I was so fed up with trying to get a bevel on my blades that I almost gave up myself. That was until I had the good fortune of having Lynn Abrams, the Godfather of straight razor shaving, give me some solid advice. First, take all of the razors you displayed on your video and use them for honing practice. That's all their really good for, and toss that Russian blade in the trash! As Lynn reminded me, it takes weeks for people to learn how to shave with a straight razor, let alone how to hone one. Straight razor shaving and honing is an art of sorts and a hobby to most. Don't focus on the shave. Focus on the edge. Once you've mastered honing, shaving will be much more rewarding. Use the blades you have to learn how to bevel set through shave ready, then buy a good quality razor to shave with. German or England only (Dovo or Broker, etc.) and don't purchase it on eBay or Craig's list. Use a reputable company. If your still in the hobby of honing, keep at it and it will click like riding a bike, and remember to stay clear of the bullshit videos out there. Only watch the ones from reputable craftsmen. I've graduated from honing to restoring vintage blades and I still have trouble bevel setting sometimes. So I feel your pain, but don't give up out of frustration if it's something you truly like to do. I hope my reflection helps you in some way. Good luck.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Razor Ichiban-Gakusei Thanks for watching, and the good advice

@MaZEEZaM

6 жыл бұрын

Razor Ichiban-Gakusei Helped me too, I was never going to buy a cheap arse razor off eBay given the obvious risk to such a blade on your face and neck. I wasn’t sure of the brand though, until your comment 🐨 cheers, looks to me the quality razors, dovo cost $2-300,

@peterrathbone179

6 жыл бұрын

Hear hear ! .. Exactly same experience. Spot on advice. Firstly the blade needs to be a good steel all the cheap ones won't keep a good edge. If you looking for a bargain forget new get vintage. Honing and stropping definitely takes a lot to figure out but once mastered is in fact easy. It only takes one bad pass on a strop to round off the blade edge thus making it useless ! Cheap steel will just be too soft and easily spoils due to strop technique . I feel your pain buddy as I too have made all these mistakes... Now happily shave with my vintage crown and castle off eBay. Very satisfying smooth shave especially after all the frustrating attempts in the past !

Just a bit of advice ( don't buy cheap shit) Dam man you have more blades than a surgeon ) try buying one blade for 200- 300 bucks. There is an ole saying you get what you pay for.

@MaZEEZaM

6 жыл бұрын

dick labobo Also one I grew up with, “You buy cheap, you buy twice” or in his case, vastly more than twice. I guess if you never buy quality, you would not understand the difference.

Feel for ya bro. I like the look of the traditional straight razor but honestly I just couldn't be arsed with the maintenance involved. I use a Parker SRX shavette with Derby premium blades. It's stainless steel with beautiful engraving, has a nice weight to it and it's sturdy. I get a perfect shave every time with zero hassle.

@JimIBobIJones

3 жыл бұрын

If you are buying new from a reliable company (Dovo, Bocker, Thiers Issard are the big 3) a good carbon razor is very low maintenance. Strop it normally before every shave and strop it once (or twice if you shave daily) a week with a fine abrasive/polishing compound like Chromium oxide and your razor never needs to touch a whetstone.

I hear you. I've been turned off from trying straights for a number of reasons. Like you mentioned, you need to do your research to make sure you're getting a good razor with a good hone, and then there's just all the maintenance. I have nothing against straights, and I can see why other people like them, but they seem really inconvenient to me. I know shavettes aren't as forgiving as true straights, but for me a shavette has all the advantages of a straight without any of the negatives.

I've had a similar experience even with razors costing $150 from "good" companies, they just don't shave. I did get a $50 razor on ebay that did shave well. But the best shave yet is with the Feather Artist Club DX with a Kai Captain Mild blade, nothing else comes close. Live and learn.

@1979_dot_kesu

Жыл бұрын

Factory blade needs always honing.

Poor guy with all those useless razors, he should have the best damn beard in America.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Bruce Davidson thanks for watching and commenting

I wouldn't mind honing one up for you if you need a good experience to keep the interest alive. My edges cut similar to Shavette edges but with less irritation. It's unfortunate that a lot of people offer honing services that aren't on par with what you need. I'd never send out a crap edge that I wouldn't shave with myself. Honestly, you get what you pay for for the most part, but I have yet to encounter an actual straight that I can't put a very nice edge on.

I have been using a quality straight razor, German high carbon steel for over 5+ years now. Here is some advise. If you can't hover the blade say 1/2 inch above your leg hair, chest hair, etc and move it slowly through a patch of hair and you hear and see hairs ping and shoot off. Then the razor is not properly honed and not sharp enough. I have very coarse facial hair and I will dull a disposable razor in 3 shaves which is why I switched. I will never go back but I learned to maintain my own razor and stones which I use to sharpen everything else to "Razor" sharpness.

The old adage, that you get what you pay for, is the perfect saying when buying straight razors. If you’re going to buy a shaving tool, that’s going to be used for years of shaving, never go cheap. Also, Dovo is a German company, and has had a long history of excellent quality products. You’ll pay more on the front end, but it’s worth what you paid for all the items you bought combined.

Buy a double edged safety razor. Those are the best razors I've ever used! Easy to use and affordable.

Sorry to hear you had so bad luck with your purchases. Buying online is a gamble. Sure you bought a lot of good things as well👌

If you have a razor honed the best thing to do as a new to straights guy is shave with it before you strop and then you'll know if it's you.

@charlescooperderose8872

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Monroe I can’t believe he would strop it without trying it out after the guy honed it for him. And then he’s gonna sit there and try to blame it on the guy when he said himself he didn’t know anything about strops. Some audacity.

Hey man just wanted to say you make some cool videos and I subscribed. Shit happens and when you have a bad experience with something at least you can learn from it. I would agree with some of the people's comments that german razors tend to be nice quality. My family had some older kitchen knives from the company J. A. Henckels which I knew had very high quality steel. When I went to buy a razor, I was surprised and glad to find they have also been making razors since the company's inception. I ended up buying an old unpolished Henckels Platinum 401 for $40 on Ebay which was not "shave-ready" but had an edge in good condition with no visible nicks. I soaked it in bleach about 30 seconds b/c I was paranoid of blood born pathogens and it was crazy how the bleach just wants to eat the metal. It didn't do much harm though. I had no idea how to hone the edge and was overwhelmed by how over complicated sharpening the razor seemed to be when you look it up on the internet. You don't need 10 fucking stones to shave a razor. I bought two stones and it's by far good enough. One 1000/6000 King inexpensive stone to set the bevel and begin honing and one 10,000 grit Naniwa to polish the edge effectively making it shave sharp. I actually shaved with it while I was waiting for the 10,000 to be delivered and it wasn't good enough... In hindsight at that point you are better off with a cheap disposable razer lol. The 10,000 grit Naniwa was ~$70 US from Japan on Ebay which I found a bit expensive but it's a 20mm version and it will last many years possibly a 10+ years with how little I use it (1-2 times per month). The best and most obvious test for sharpness in my opinion was to hold the razor in one hand with the blade facing up, take an individual hair and stroke it over the edge and see if it pops the single hair in half. If it does that you will get a decent shave. I think there are other videos of this hair test... Oh yeah and I used the raw leather side of a cutting from the interior of an old leather briefcase as a strop... Anyways good luck and just reply if you have questions.

@ckiefer.0459

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, and thanks for the kind words. Thanks for the tips. I use mostly shavettes and DE these days, but I'm still interested in learning to hone.

Haha! Very true indeed. thanks for watching and commenting.

The problem is that there are literally no proper honing videos out there. Even the ones by the "greats" like Lynn do a piss poor job describing the feel when honing, what to look for, how much pressure to apply, etc. You have to feel what's going on and use observation before progressing to a higher grit, etc. Its actually quite simple, the two faces of the edge must meet and then any blade will shave.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Joey Nuggetz Thanks for watching

I get mine from the old barber in town.. he buys them because he shaves customers.. and I buy them from him because he examines and tests them first. Never have bought a vintage razor.

Try a Dovo shavette with the Dovo long blade. Replaceable blade shavette, uses the Dovo long blade or an ordinary DE blade snapped in half. Boker now also makes shavettes based on the Dovo system. Eradicates the problem of honing and stropping. Alternatively persevere with gaining the knowledge of keeping your blades in shave ready condition. Like every art or craft worth learning it is an uphill learning curve, it also takes takes time and patience both to learn and carry out well. You just can't come home from the razor shop and become an artisan straight away, you know! Nothing good comes easy.

You should think about getting a Feather SS Japanese razor...they're even sharper than traditional straights and you don't have to worry about upkeep.

I just saw your shaving video with the GD 208 and it looks reasonable to me.I believe all straight razors will tug and give you what Lynn (SRP) refers to as "feedback". I believe this is because straight razors are not going to be as sharp as a shavette and an DE. I got 2 Dovo's. One I unevenly honed myself, but works, and one honed by a reputable vendor. They shave about the same than the GD 208. All three tug and provide this "feedback". I also saw your video using the Equinox shavette, which I also have. Less tug and smooth shave. I agree 100% with your assessment on performance, and I'm sorry you were taken for a ride with the Russian blade. The worst part on that razor is that the spine is gone. Which means it's going to be hard to hone and will not fold into the scales. It's basically trash. But at least the ones you got at the beginning of this video seem reasonable to me. One may have to adjust expectations. An like The Gaul said below, things do improve with time. I get better shaves with a cartridge, followed by a DE, followed by a shavette, followed by a straight. I do straight razors just cuz I think it's cool actually. But no plans to buy new ones. Thanks for you candor and honesty man.

Straight razors are very difficult to maintain, well in my opinion. When I got my straight razor it wasn't shave ready but I hit it with a 1,000 stone a 6000 and a 10 thousand then finally a strop and then it shaved great no pull and the razor was like $16 on eBay and it came with the strop, it came from Germany. So I know the razor has potential to produce a great shave but I feel like after 10 shaves it's not always great some shaves are nice and smooth and others tend to tug a bit more, maybe it's in the stropping? I like the idea of a single blade straight razor but I feel like it takes a lot of time and patience, I switched to a Cut Throat razor which is basically like a straight razor but with disposable blades, in my opinion that's probably the best offer because you don't have to deal with sharpening or stropping you get a couple good shaves, switch the blade and keep on going haha

@ckiefer.0459

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, I still use straights, but I have primarily switched to disposable blade straight razors. I like the lack of upkeep :D

lol,i like the last razor,from Russia with love,i feel for ya....lol!

I have about a dozen straight razors. Haven't picked one up in a long time. Stropping seems to elude me. I prefer shavettes. You should send off a razor or 2 to be honed, just to give shaving with them another go. I'd skip homing yourself. I have some stones as well. Some never used by me.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

ronnie greher You know, I've sent a few off ,and have had good shaves with them. I still haven't got the hang of stepping and honing, but I'm gonna' keep messing with it. Good thing is I'll always have my shavettes when I need them. Thanks for watching and commenting

Believe it or not but goto wish it's an app for very inexpensive shopping and they have razors and kits for few dollars I use the razors from them and they are shave ready no need to strop first just shave...great shave I was shocked since the razor is only a few dollars rather than 20 and up! Don't give up

the title should be The Lessons I Learned

@MaZEEZaM

6 жыл бұрын

William Boyd The moral of the story, don’t buy cheap arse razors.

hey brother send that artist and a gold dollar to me if you like.ill check them out and rehone them for nothing.cheers !

@ckiefer.0459

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the gracious offer! , I'll PM you on FB for the info.

That razor u bought from Craigslist looks like an american vintage most likely solingen blanks which is an excellent razor and probably better than anything u will buy today as long as it is honed well initially done period.

I know this is a old video now..I’m a straight razor shaver…I shave usually everyday.Like you I have only bought used vintage razors.What I did is 1.buy decent vintage razor(you have one) 2.Bought lapping film(do research it’s easy,use the gold dollar for practice. 3.Make balsa strop with diamond compound.(do research) This is what I did.I have not had to buy anything else since,other than soap.The diamond balsa keeps the razors crazy sharp.No need to rehone.Just maintain on the balsa ,then the leather strop.I have had good luck I guess.

My favorite razor is the 2 blade Gillette Sensor Excel.

to a certain extent..steel is steel. Sure there are grades, but if a freshly honed razer tugs from the get go...and the one common denominator is that you stropped it before you shaved, which from the video seems to be the case, one can only go with your stropping skills as the cause of all these razers, freshly honed giving bad shaves.

I like my magic shavette by master barber

Wow I am not too sure what to think. I have five razors, but all of quality and solid structure. I would rather spend a few dollars more and be reassured of performance.

Straights are awesome if you have the patience to take care of one but I prefer a shavette... Not as cool as a real straight but still more manly than a cartridge razor, and less of a headache too lol

I ordered a dovo rozor it didn't shave well at all so I no where your coming from

I make improvements and I can suggest a straight razor but unfortunately you will not able to shave after the purchase because all came not shave ready. So first razor will be a struggle to hone and you will damage it! It's inevitable. So if you need help tell me. Now I have razors shave ready but it was a big struggle!

Dude, just buy a used blade from a known dealer like Larry at whippd dog or razor emporium. Larry sold me a blade for 43 which is perfect for a new SR user. I don't think you got taken, when you learn to hone and strop, you will have them all working in time. A small ball peen hammer will fix that loose handle. Don't get down, the blood has not even begun to flow yet. Enjoy.....

Have you considered your beard prep? I've found that how you prep does have a lot to do with the quality of the shave.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. My beard prep usually includes bear washed in the shower with face wash, then preshave oil, soap then shave. Don't know what else to do besides that. That being said. I get pretty good shaves now after a few re-hones.

One thing you can do is get a disposable straight razor. I got one for 15 on amazon and ur using razor blades so it will always be razor sharp

@ckiefer.0459

6 жыл бұрын

Hugedickerino Kripperino Thanks for watching. I have become a big fan of the disposable blade straight razor, since I made this video. Great suggestion.

10 straight razors & you still don't have a clean shave

Always the best way to shave: straight razor. One and only way.

I'm really sorry to hear you had such a bad experience of buying/using straights. I don't know if you did give up on them after making this video, but if you did I'd urge that you try again with them, because once you have the right razor it'll be a joy to shave with. My advice to you would be to forget about those ones you show in the video and buy a new Dovo or Thiers Issard from a reputable dealer. Yes, they are expensive (several hundred $), but a good straight razor will last you a lifetime and for generations to come. Apart from the old razors you show, all of the others are poor quality and in my opinion will never work well; so it's not your stropping ability and how they have been honed that is the problem. Stropping really is easy and just takes a bit of practice. Honing is another matter ... I collect and restore razors and have worked on some that are 150+ years old. To hone an old straight that is in poor condition can take many hours. I only use Japanese super stones, progressing from 1k, up through 3k, 5k, 8k, 10k, and 12k. Once you have the right razor, strop (with a good leather and canvas strop) it before and after each shave. You'll then not need to hone it very often. Stick with it. Cheers, Darren P.S. I've a set of videos on straights that might be of use to you.

Damn what a shit stretch of luck.... I make, hone and restore blades... I wouldn't mind helping U out for free... let me know

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind offer. I think I've got it sorted out now.

@rebelgage6798

6 жыл бұрын

How much would a razor cost to have one made?

Many sharks in these waters! Caleb is a good and honest guy. You've had some bad experiences. Sorry about that.

Well, first off, sorry to see the state of that Ruskie razor, second.... throw those gold dollars in the waste, sorry to say but there is plenty info out there regarding them. the geometry on them is just not right and they take a lot of work to turn them into functioning razors, they are basically mass produced tat. i dont know what hones you purchased but i would say use the one with the steel scales to practice honing as the 2 with the black scales look like they may actually be serviceable functioning razors.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

pai pai thanks for watching and commenting.

why would you try to strop a freshly honed razor? I mean when you pay some one to do it they stroped it. might be your shaving technique.....

Use one with disposable blades

The moral of the story is: Always buy the best despite the price, so you don't buy twice (or three, four, five times). Cheers

younger barbers dont realize that you supposed hone tour own razor the true art of shaving is the ability to hone and stroppe your own razor self ,to have some else hone your razor is not right!

@madscientistshusta

6 жыл бұрын

steve oyas bet they also send their wife off to get a good fucking too hah

@MichaelJohnson-pk5sq

6 жыл бұрын

steve oyas I agree. Unless you are comfortable with having someone else pack your parachute and learn not to bitch. Anyone can learn to use a rusty butter knife to shave with if they learn how to sharpen and strop. It takes concentration and practice. Otherwise buy a disposable.

for $20, you can buy a bunch of stainless steel straight razors on eBay.

If you wants a good straight razor you need to get one with steel maid in Solingen Germany.

Well, you've got good stones...you can sharpen your knife collection if your honing skills aren't up to par enough to get a blade to "Razor sharp" status....

You have a nice house and I have 5 magic beans, what do you think? You want to trade?

a know the feling body a whas realy confusing whan a whas going to buy razors and stones. the thing whith razors there cane be alot of problems the steel cane be tempured wrong the edge cane be chiped and sharpend wrong.. there are even a company that makes straight razors in germany Dovo deay say that deay are shave ready but deay are not shave ready

@ckiefer.0459

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have learned my lesson for sure. Good to hear from you. Thanks for watching!

@straightrazorrevolution8578

8 жыл бұрын

no factory made straight razors are truly shave ready, by a shavers standard. dovo makes great razors, I have several and I love them, but you must hone them yourself. sometimes, certain vendors that are reputable, do hone blades you buy from them, too shave ready. ...but don't rely on that as gospel....as a strait shaver myself, I've found it invaluable, having my own hones and doing my own honing. yes it's expensive, yes there a learning curve, yes there are times that you won't get a good shaving edge, but you have your own hones FOREVER, and you will learn to be a razor honing monster before you know it.

You are supposed to heat your hair first with those razors, using hot towels. Also, watched one of the shaving vids . . didn't look too bad to me. Have your tried an angle grinder? lol

The actual question is, whether the straight razor belongs into DIY-shavers, or barbers. Its the latter. Straights require maintainance, much own skill + the shaving angle is not ideal, blood part of this business... My 6 straights now oiled n packed away, DE + SE hv taken ovr with fine results, providing fun.

Want a quality razor buy a max sprecher ,probably the best place you can go but you do pay for the quality he provides

Dam dude? I was shaving with my pocket knife? Then, after years of learning sharpening of blades, i broke out grandads eskilstuna, sharpened it up. Stropped it up with my wallet! Best dam shave! It's like buying a Classic Camero? If you can't tune a barb, It'l probably suck!

Wow sorry to hear that you have had such issues buying a razor, its such an amazing experiance when you get the right kit. as for straight razors you really do get what you pay for😕, i paid £297 for my tres izzard razor they cost so much because your buying somthing that should last you 100+ years. if you find a razor cheap then you can garentee its either a scam or defective, otherwise they would be charging what it is truly worth. Dont give up i would say invest in a razor from a company like tres izzard, if your not happy you can complain and they make the best razors in my opinion. Good luck

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

The way it goes sometimes. I have a few well honed straights now,so I'm good. Thanks for watching.

@johnpowers2627

7 жыл бұрын

Thiers Issard. Expensive but one of the best from France.

A good new razor starts at $150, and can easily go up to $400. If I was to buy a car for $10, I wouldn't expect to get anything good. I just bought an older German Modoso for $80 Canadian from a guy who makes them from scratch, and it's awesome. I know we don't want to spend a ton of money when we aren't sure if we'll stick to it, but stop buying crap, and you'll be happy. You will almost never get a good blade, in decent shape, and well honed for under $50 used, under 150 new.

It's the edge of the razor who puts it on there, you want something smooth not extremely sharp.

Just get a new Dovo or Boker. Anything from Solingen Germany should be good to excellent quality. Expect to spend at least $120 on a descent razor. Sounds expensive, but a good razor should last a lifetime. Compare that to how many Gillette cartridges you've bought and it's a bargain! I've got 2 Dovos and a Boker and never had a problem. Learning how to strop and hone yourself is essential. Not difficult either. Don't understand your problem. I'm new to straight razor shaving too. I love it and never had a problem. It was a bit of a learning curve, but not a big deal. ShaveNation.com is a good reputable source. He even has several "how to" videos.

Razors? It's enough with one, isn't it?

Wanna be safe stay far from factories like Dovo, Thiers Issard,, Boker, Timor, Rex Supply, Parker, Goldacches, Puma, Koorat. All horrific and not shave ready and with bad surprises: microchips, frowns, cutting edge no straight, steel keepin rust easily, handle not aligned to the blade and others unsolvable issues. First should learn with a Shavette like kai to understand what means shave ready!!!!

Don't you mean "I'm not buying anymore straight razors"?

@GoldPlatedGhost

7 жыл бұрын

Jon Phillip Any More* ...its 2 words. Come correct when correcting.

you might try a samurai sword

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watcing

Might want to spend a bit more money, $20 and $40 isn't going to get you a good blade. Expect to pay at least $100 - $200. I would also suggest to find a professional who can sharpen your blades, and maybe get some advice on stropping, I'm not sure if you're making the blade dull or not, but just trying to help.

@AbstractCoder

7 жыл бұрын

how much did you spend, what brand name, size, etc and how good did it shave without having to sharpen it etc..

I didn't listen to the whole rant but I counted 3 razors you thought might work but didn't bother to try so you called them bad. Dude, why not get a razor stone and put and edge on them and give them a try?

What part of the country are you located? I might be able to suggest someone local who can help you with honing in person. You didn't have bad luck, you had awful luck! The people you listed for honing are, in no particular order, incompetent or farm them out to other unknown honers. "Reputation" can be inflated badly when you only are selling to beginners who don't know any better. These are one and done sellers. They all are pretty "grim." Any time you get a razor from a competent honer, you should shave with his edge the first time without stropping. That way you know what the honer's edge does without any risk of your messing up the edge with stropping. Though, of course, you still have to be able to shave properly. I could not find one of your actual straight razor shaving vids, only shavettes. There is a difference in technique for the two. You need to shave at a much lower angle with a straight. That is, the spine needs to be closer to your skin. If you get tugging, then you need to adjust the angle. With experience, this becomes automatic in the same manner that someone riding a bike automatically maintains balance even though they struggle in the beginning. The "silver jobber" is a Polish Wapienica, also called a Wapi. There is plenty of information about them online in forums. You said that you have had offers to hone. I'll add another one. In fact, if you have not sent your razors out yet, I'll send you yet another Gold Dollar 66 for free to give you a chance to try a decent edge.

it could bee your shaving teckneak

Junk steel. At least 150$ for a good one. Buy a Dovo with German steel only and have it sharpened at classicshaving.com Use a 3" strop with rough and soft. You cant get a good shave being cheap. Just got mine back form Classic shaving ...way better than new. In order to properly sharpen these things after the factory...you need expensive Japanese sand stones both 5000 and 8000 grit. You may need to use compound but doubt it. Once you got it down no disposable beats it (you wont have shave for 3 days). Tip: Buy a lighted shaving mirror. Its not cheap if want to do it right.

Dont strop after a hone, strop is to realign after use not before

First,a couple of caveats. I'm a noob to wet shaving and 2 there's another common factor ( except for the last razor) ; your shaving technique . You shipped on Craigslist which in my experience is a crapshoot. You also admitted to not doing your homework. AIUI that is very important!

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I'm sure technique played a big part, but shortly after I made this video, I had 2 of the razors re-honed, and they shaved a lot better. That being said, my technique could have improved in that time.

Carl, Go to Shavenation.com and watch his tutorial videos. Remember Carl, you get what you pay for my friend. I can personally vouch for Shavenation.com . I am not paid by them, just a very satisfied straight razor and DE blade user of their products. No dissapointments here.

First of all, you get what you pay for. If your buying a $20 razor, or you get a razor as a free gift, ( oh my god...) expect $20 quality. Second, I've been using and honing straight razors since I was 16. I'm just shy of 40 now. Shaving with a safety razor now is comparable to using a piece of glass. You just cant go back. you need to learn how to do all your own honing to find out what works best for you, and also, buy the right equipment. I've spent almost $800 just on the honing equipment, stones, and diamond dust. Learn how to maintain your own equipment and do it yourself and you'll be much happier. Best of luck.

Would not criticize you for your purchases (except maybe the gold dollars), that being said... if you are looking for a shave ready professional grade razor you will need to be looking in the $100+ range. A vintage razor can be brought back to life if you have the skill with a hone and strop, but this too is a skill not everyone has the patience to develo.

Get yourself some honing stones guy.

@ckiefer.0459

7 жыл бұрын

Nate Ermine Thanks for watching

P in the Cyrillic Alphabet is pronounced R, therefore Raketa, not Paketa.