Thank you for the incredible response! Not only has this outperformed (like for like in its first 24h online with my other uploads) my next best piece of content by 10x but the kindness and enthusiasm in the comments has been superb. I was a bit nervous about potentially poking the Porsche bear and its cubs but thrilled that it's been the warmest welcome yet. If you have a car you'd like to see on the channel then please let me know - petrolpoodle@gmail.com or find me on Instagram @petrolpoodle

@T0mmyTune

5 күн бұрын

@13:41 100%. I personally find it disrespectful (great word choice btw) too. Further the vehicles owner could do a portion in a video where they throw it around a bit if that serves a greater purpose. Otherwise, this video, your style, all perfect to inform us. *Hype Check*, That is what we are after in this video

@petrolpoodle6617

5 күн бұрын

@@T0mmyTune thank you very much ☺

@paulkearney4565

3 күн бұрын

I've a 997.1 the last pure flat 6 with out any intermediate assistance like fuel injection etc.. I am intending getting to my kubla khan which would be a 2019 Carrera T but after watching this I'm now thinking 1982 911 SC!! The joy of Porsche!! "Which one??? please tell me god, which one??"

I purchased my first 911 about a month ago. It’s a 79 911SC Coupe. I literally have wanted one since I was 15 or so, I am now 57. Wow…what a fantastic driving experience.

@Hulley29

10 күн бұрын

Hi Jay!

@evelcustom9864

9 күн бұрын

Congrats! Hope it gives you 50 more years of joy

@ft7039

8 күн бұрын

congrats!!!

Brilliant. And I don’t disagree. However, you will get a 996 or a 997. I guarantee it. And after a ‘while’ you will long for this experience and regret having not just gotten the air cooled first. And then you will find the resources, come up with the cash, and buy one at whatever price the market commands. Because we all do. We all start rationally and practically and responsibly. Then you get older and reassess and weigh time versus money and what you sincerely value most. I cannot wait for you to get here with the rest of us fools who have ‘spent too much’ as most would say, for one of these. Great review, glad you did it.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

I absolutely love this comment, I read it outloud to my non-petrolhead girlfriend and even she loved it! Thank you sir!

@AJ-el6bj

20 күн бұрын

100%, that’s exactly my journey. First one was a 996, then 997 then SC, then 993. Tried a C63, it lasted 6 months. Nothing compares.

@kstark2298

20 күн бұрын

I started with a 914 in '79 at the young age of 16 and then bought a 73.5 Targa in the early 90s and still regret selling it in '04. Having been through a 996(a poor replacement for the 73.5) and now with a completely refreshed 997.1 I prefer this over all of the previous 911s I've owned as it meshes the new with the old, BUT nothing will replace the raw nature, smells and feel of an early 911. SHHH, don't tell my wife I'm looking for another early long hood 911 as she thinks 4 in the garage is enough for now...

@stallion427

17 күн бұрын

I had a 997 and 997 turbo, now a 1979 SC and was never addicted to the drive like I am with the older porshe

@Mafiacat2023

17 күн бұрын

I had a 1986 Carrera. I've had a 997 and a 996. Still got the 996. I agree that air cooled are nice but not nice enough for the money. I would get a GT3 any day before another air cooled.

I had various 911SCs for about 7 years in the 2000s. I couldn't believe how reliable they were.I dailied them every day,..rain or shine. Loved owning them. The engine note was to die for...if ever there was a usable classic.. It's an SC

@RUfromthe40s

8 күн бұрын

he´s a kid or millenium or whatever, they don´t understand life, things fall in their hands as they want them and don´t have a clue about life

I just picked up my first air cooled 911 and I can't stop smiling. Just an unbelievable experience.

I own a 996 myself. And I'm the first one to admit that air cooled Porsches look a million times better. Especially the 993, which is my favorite. But they're so crazy expensive that no ordinary car enthusiasts can afford them anymore. And because they made 964 and 993 only about 65 thousand of each and half of them cabrios/targas/automatics, the manual coupes will be appreciated even more in the future. They made over 1.5 times more of 996's alone than 964 and 993 COMBINED. They also made 212,964 units of 997. That's also why 996 and 997 prices are lower. But as you said 996 is definitely the best value for money Porsche. Still drives like an analog, small 911 and has just a bit more power and performance.

Aircooled 911 will give you more sensations and pleasure at lower speed than 996. This is why I own a 964.

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

I have to say, I've seen the light! I just wish they were value-wise on an equal playing field like they used to be! Great news for the long-term owners who've put in the love to keep theirs in top condition though eh!

Great video. Happy to lend you my 997 C2 manual which I won on Classic giveaways last year if you like for a review. Love the idea of aircooled but so happy with mine too for daily driving and still feel like the luckiest person around. Welcome to the addictive world of Porsche.

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Thank you so much, this has absolutely made my day! I specifically wanted to pin a comment saying 'Can anyone with a manual 997, ideally C2 or 4 please let me review it!?' and thought... don't shut down other models, but it's what I want! Hallelujah! hahaha That would be incredible, could you pop me a message on Instagram (petrolpoodle) or pop me an email to petrolpoodle@gmail.com? I'd seriously love to organise this!

@petrolpoodle6617

10 күн бұрын

Hey Spookybus! I'm super keen to shoot this 997 review if you're still up for it :) If you want to pop me an email to petrolpoodle@gmail.com or petrolpoodle on Instagram I'd be delighted to organise it!

Great video. I agree with your assessments of the steering and other aspects of this model. I've got 217k miles on my SC and I've owned it 40 years. I also have a 993 C4S and a 996 Turbo S. Prices on SC's went through a period where prices were flat 10-15 years but they have never dropped after they initially bottomed out in the mid 80's. . If you find the perfect air cooled car for you, and your budget agrees, I would get it. For every 911 I've bought there has been no shortage of people telling me they were over priced at that time. I could have bought a new Datsun for what I paid for my used SC in 1984 and i had many that reminded me of that. The SC is just special; from the faint smell of oil and hot metal to the sound when the door closes. Just my opinion.

Excellent video, the best first time air cooled evaluation I've seen. Too bad you didn't have the opportunity to push it on track or mountain road. Very informative anyway, good work!

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Thank you, that's very high praise and I'm honoured! I would love to have been able to explore its dynamic capabilities on a perfect road, to really discover that next level of magic. One day perhaps that opportunity will come but man, just so lucky to have been able to drive one at all!

Interesting review. I'm fortunate to own a 1983 911 SC which I have owned for 24 years. Coincidentally, I drove it yesterday for the first time since Covid, when it was laid up during the first lockdown and subsequent life got in the way. A gap of that duration has made me revisit the car with fresh eyes, and I've got to say I'd forgotten how involving it is to drive, and actually still feels quick and nimble on the road. I'm looking forward to getting some miles in and re-learning how to get the best from it. I started recommissioning a couple of months ago and have replaced all of the brake discs, callipers and hoses, changed all of the fluids, plugs and filters and can confirm they are a realistic DIY proposition to work on. Parts are reasonably priced with plenty of availability from different vendors. The car has also inadvertently become a good investment as it is apparently worth several times what I bought it for! I am also a long-term owner of a 997.2 and still see these as the sweet spot for "modern" 911 ownership with them still being a "small" car with an analogue feel, but with many of the potentially (perhaps sometimes over exaggerated) but nevertheless financially scary aspects of earlier models (IMS/Bore scoring etc) addressed.

I own a 996, but fell in love with the 911 in 1977 when I was 12 years old and have wanted one since. The 996 is the 911 that I could afford and I absolutely LOVE my car. But a G body is my ultimate dream car.

I can tell you what other car from 1985 you can absolutely thrash everyday. An AW11 MR2! The 996 turned me on to Porsches, and I still own both. Great review!

I think these cars have become attractive because they can be nearly fully self-supported in the owner's garage and have excellent parts availability. Many spare parts for competing exotics of this age are completely NLA and newer used examples aren't easily supported by the owner due to complexity. And while not a rare car by any means, Porsche 911 production in these years was just a small fraction of competitors like the Corvette.

Awesome review of the Porsche 911 SC ... it is definitely refreshing to view content which is not only honest but also includes a good balance of historical context, technical features, and driving impressions 🤓! As a longtime Porsche fan-atic, I probably am somewhat biased at this point having owned several different examples (both based on rear and mid-engine layouts). Within the rear-engine lineup, a few other models worthy of mentioning would be a 911 Carrera 3.2 and 993 series. However, in truth, each iteration has something unique to offer the sports car enthusiast! Again, thanks for a fun video and cheers from Colorado!

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Thanks so much, Daniel, I hugely appreciate it! Genuinely do. I'm very excited to be reviewing a 993, a 996 and hopefully a 997 soon! It'd be a dream to get them all done together in a day but that's probably logistically not possible. But I'm now properly excited to explore, as you put it nicely, what each cars unique traits are.

What a wonderful road test! So refreshing to have a Porsche reviewed by someone who isn't an already-devoted fanboy (although I suspect you are going to become one!). This style of reporting is so relaxing and easy to digest, it's an absolute breath of fresh air and has made me an instant subscriber. Thank you for your excellent work 👍

@petrolpoodle6617

13 күн бұрын

Thank you so much, this is honestly one of my favourite comments I've read in months! I cut my talking segments down from roughly 30 mins per video to usually 18 to 22 mins in general and after watching myself natter for literally 8 hours of editing, I often think I go on and on for far too long. So I appreciate your superbly kind words! The great news is I've got a LOT of exciting cars lined up and this video in particular has given me the boost of excitement to give this a full go and throw everything I have at it! Thank you again and I look forward to seeing your name on a future video hopefully :D

I have owned a 1976 911s Targa for 32 years. It has the original engine and trans. 194,000 miles. We keep improving it with little things and maintain it. You will need to replace the fuel lines because of the gasoline and their age. A link will mean an instant fire. All parts are readily available. Enjoy tje ride

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Woooooow that's incredible! Nearly at the full 200,000 miles on a near 50 year old car! Sensational. Congratulations and thanks for the tips!

@michaelteret4763

19 күн бұрын

Respect. The car is lucky to have you as its caretaker.

@hugoglenn9741

12 күн бұрын

200K is not that big of a deal. When you rebuild a motor you can replace the jugs. This mean rebuilds are almost unlimited. Corrosion control was not as good of the 74-77 models as they started after 1978. I owned a ‘75 targa and it was a disaster. Magnesium valve covers were notorious for leaking oil. Oil cooler wanted to leak. I believe it was K-jettronic like on my Scirocco, which makes it only OK as far as fuel injection is concerned. Ultimately either because of oil drips or fuel leak the engine caught fire. If you want durability with excessive mechanic bills buy a 1970s-80s Mercedes diesel. I had an 82 Maxima diesel that went 300k on the way to 500K before I sold it. Porsche parts are expensive and it rode like a little go cart. Now I have a 75 914 and being sacrilegious to Porschafiles I like it better than the 911

I just purchased a '77 911s at the start of '24. You've nailed every aspect of what I love about mine (despite it not being a 3.2). Especially your comment that it just feels fast. You really do have to drive one to understand the obsession.

Great video indeed! Thanks a lot! Love to see the appreciation growing, on the verge of turning into passion. Getting into the 911 world through a water-cooled model is an illusion, though. They are worlds apart from any air-cooled 911 and there is no substitute. The G-model does, imho, pair the perfect classic Porsche feeling, especially the pre-86 ones with the classic 915 gearbox (for the true feeling - and yes, it does work fabulously when correctly adjusted) with maximum reliability. I’ve done 20.000km / year in the last 4 years in my 1984 3.2 litre coupé and it’s an outstanding travelling experience. I actually even prefer it over my 987 Boxster. Hope you’ll get yours and then give us more reports like this!

Great video - thanks. I really related to it, because I bought a G-series 911 last year and am in the process of falling madly, deeply in love with it. And that's despite its imperfections. As you said, there is so much scope to build on the excellent fundamentals of these cars to make them exactly how the owner wants them, and add value in the process (if the work is done really well.) That's what I plan to do to my car. Incidentally, it's a 1977 LHD ex-German car, originally a 2.7, but with a 180bhp SC engine fitted in 1998. I've owned a 996 (a C4S) and adored it. I've been fortunate to own a series of incredible performance cars over the years. But my 1977 car creates smiles and satisfaction on every drive, and that's worth a fortune to me.

7:12. Back in the mid 1980’s my dad had a euro spec 911SC (we’re in the states). Some of my best memories with my dad were going on a long on-ramp and hitting 60 in second gear. Thanks for taking me back to the good old days.

Great video! I have a massive soft spot for G series 911s. I recently sold mine (Carrera 3.2) after 16 years of ownership because I wanted a change. I'm now in an MX5 and loving that it excels in different ways to the 911. I will always miss the unique feel and sound of the 911, when you gun it out of a tight bend, feeling the sublime steering, the rear squats and engine howls and she just goes!

"I don't know where the F@$# I am going BTW." That pretty much sums up the experience of driving an air cooled Porsche. You get so engaged and enthralled, you look up and you're just way out somewhere or you take the long way home, simply enjoying driving again.

What a car to come back with! I'm in the same camp, that 996 has left me longingly scrolling through autotrader despite being indifferent beforehand! Great review :)!

@petrolpoodle6617

21 күн бұрын

Thanks very much, Tag!

Great, straight, honest analysis. I have owned my 1979 911SC since 1980. I cannot part with it. As you say, driving it is a more raw experience, but that is the charm.

Great video, really enjoyed the in car stuff. Really nicely filmed.

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Thanks so much pal, it makes a difference when the extra work is appreciated!

Great video, thanks! Spot-on. I was lucky enough to be able to buy an '85 3.2 Carrera from the original owner, who lives nearby, about eight years ago, just as the prices were starting to rise but weren't crazy yet. It was low miles (about 50k) and all original. He bought it in Germany, and had all of the original manuals, etc... On my first test drive before buying it, my thoughts in the first mile or so were "this car isn't for me". I guess it was just too different from what I was used to (mostly older BMW M3's). But in a matter of just ten minutes of driving, I found myself not wanting to bring it back, haha. I'm so glad I bought it, and love driving it. I still want to just keep on driving when I'm in it. In the years I've had it I've addressed any issues it had and made some small but meaningful improvements. It's been very reliable. The steering is of course incredible, and as you said, it's got just about the right amount of power to have fun and at least feel like you're going fast. My wife loves it too. I wish I lived somewhere I could drive it year-round, but it makes Springtime all the more special when we can take it out again.

I have an 86 Carrera, will be driving it across the US from Calif to Florida in the fall- The video will be called Cross Country Carrera. Every time I drive it, I have the same grin you had driving the SC. Admit it, what else has given you that smile that won't leave your face? You're going to do what you're going to do, but you'll still be dreaming of this analog car... for the rest of your life? We air-cooled owners dreamed of them until we finally got one. I'll never let go of mine...

We have an '88 with about 140k miles and love it for all the reasons you so beautifully articulated. Super fun to drive at all times. Reasonably reliable, so I have driven it halfway across the USA several times. But usable, a little worn, and not hidden away in a garage.

@merrillaldrich9170

12 күн бұрын

And what a COLOR on that one in the video. Stunning!

I think what your video conveys so well is what a special feeling it is to drive these cars. Prices seem very high and aren't coming down where other classics are getting cheaper. One thing I think that may be a factor in prices staying this high apart from all the great things you mention in the video is the fact that Porsche still supports these models through their Classic program and are producing parts that are specific to these cars and might otherwise not be available anymore. For instance Porsche started to produce the Targa roof for the G-model cars again apart from many other parts. The other reason, obviously, is the fact that so many of us like to own, or do own a older Porsche. See all the reactions on this video; either owners are holding on to theirs and prospective owners are waiting in the wings to get their hands on one. A 911 is a beautiful thing to look at and there is a lot of value in enjoying a drive in an older 911. Can't do that in a Bitcoin 🙂

Well done video as usual. Yeah, back to basics has its appeal as well as a price tag suited for this age and era.

@petrolpoodle6617

15 күн бұрын

Hey John, Great to see you back! Thanks as always for watching!

Just found this channel - really enjoy your vibe. No bullshit, not trying too hard. Just being yourself and being natural. Surprised you’ve not got a lot more subs! If you wanted to compare this 911 to another car from the era, I’ve got a v well sorted DeLorean you’d be welcome to take out. (Assuming we’re in the same part of the country!)

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

I seriously appreciate this comment, it really does give me a boost to put more time into getting more content sorted! Thank you so much. And I would absolutely love to do that! I'm pinching myself at the idea of even sitting in a Delorean let alone driving one! Madness! My email address is petrolpoodle@gmail.com, if it doesn't let me share the email then search for me on Instagram and pop me a message :D. Would be brilliant to chat!

A well-considered overview indeed. I was gripped with the fever four years back and bought a 1980 LHD version in the US, which I imported, sight unseen. It was a moment of madness...that I have not regretted for one second. The car is a perfectly balanced, ultra-reliable classic, poky enough to raise a few hairs but perfectly fine as a daily drive. A punchy artwork on wheels that I enjoy every time I take it out on the road.

Those checkerboard seats are so classic. My best friend in high school had an 80's 930 Turbo, one of the Widow Maker types (we graduated in 1989) along with a 328, Coutach, 86.5 Supra new when they were released, and a few super bikes.

Great car, love the subtle upgrades. The SC has always been a dream car from my birth year. One day and hopefully soon.

Enjoyed the video. Production quality is excellent. Keep doing what you're doing and I'm sure the channel will blow up

@petrolpoodle6617

21 күн бұрын

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I spend a long time fussing over the production, so it's genuinely appreciated.

Great video. Fantastic car. More please!!

How can you not love this car with that beautiful Pasha interior. As for spinning out. well that was really an issue for the 930 turbo's, not so much for a standard 911.

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Very good point!

Love this content-it’s the first of yours I have found! I have ridden in 911’s but never driven one, I always said I would own one one day-but I’m 75 now and not sure it will ever happen…… I decided recently to take a proper look at a Boxter-I could get in it reasonably easily-getting out with the roof up was a whole different ballgame-for context I broke my left hip 3 years ago which has significantly reduced my mobility. I had the chance to buy a 356 Super 90 back in the late 1960’s when I was at college-couldn’t raise the money unfortunately. Now that you ‘get’ the Porsche thing you really should try a 356……

@alfpetzer5812

5 күн бұрын

Got a 997 and a 986 Boxster - I assure you that when it comes to fun, the Boxster is 100% up to par.

@petrolpoodle6617

Күн бұрын

Thank you so much, John!

Very good for a first time review and you picked a very good usable example and for a fella whose younger than the car 👍

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Thanks very much, Mark! Yeah I was concerned that I'd risk of me being (initially) unfussed by Porsche as mistakenly seen as an ungrateful youth who doesn't appreciate how lucky they are to drive an iconic piece of history. I'm just super appreciative I got the opportunity to experience one, the fact I loved it and this video has done brilliantly are just 2 bonuses to that fact!

I bought an 83sc in 2005 for $9900 in Calif, high miles at 150k but had all checked out and it was all good.

Very nice Video. I have a 911S from 1976 and I really had to learn that you can and should drive the car as you just bought it new. Mine has done 150.000 miles with first engine and is happy all day. I invest my money in servicing it and maintaining it well. No plans for mature changes. Drive it carefully up to temp. and then use the rpm range.

@pauloshea9978

20 күн бұрын

I have none of the cars you mentioned, but my dream is a 964 rs. You have splendid taste BTW!

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Thanks very much - and I'm chuffed to hear yours is also getting used properly rather than garaged and forgotten!

Interesting review, back in 2005 I test drove a 1980 SC as I’d dreamt of owning a 911 since I was a kid. They were still cheap in those days but even back then it was very much a classic car driving experience which wasn’t what I was looking for. I now own a 996 which I think is a fantastic drive but still feels like a modern sports car. I’ve driven the later 911 models up to the 992.1 and don’t really have any desire to swap my 996 for one. It’d be interesting to revisit an SC now as a comparison…

Having wanted an air cooled 911 since I was a kid I started searching a couple years ago and stumbled onto a beautiful 89 911 3.2. Marine blue with linen interior. Put deposit down sight unseen. Price was under market value for 2021. PPI was great so signed the purchase agreement. Flew out to Ohio and drove it back to Pennsylvania. The last hour and a half was all back roads. By far my best car experience ever. Will never let this car go.

@sjuhawks1973

16 күн бұрын

I just got a 3.2 in Marine Blue as well and I'm also in PA. Hopefully we'll see each other at some point.

7:27....there it is. Happens in EVERY "what's this 911 thing about" video. That realization. That very moment the addiction starts.

Fantastic video

Wow, what a return Jimmy. Glad to see you warming to Porsche, you know 996's are my soft spot, don't buy a Targa though, lol. I think it's time you had a go in my Boxster.

@petrolpoodle6617

21 күн бұрын

Thanks so much mate and I'm absolutely keen! It'll be my 4th Porsche but most excitingly it's the most affordable one with a fun backstory! Would love to.

I used to drive a 1983 Alfa Romeo GTV 6 and this is exactly the feeling I had. Every gear shift I felt as if I was reconnecting the car to the road. Every time I gave it throttle coming out of a corner I could feel the weight shift, the car dig in, and shoot out on the other side. I have never been able to replicate that experience.

@paulgulliver659

8 күн бұрын

I know exactly what you mean. I have a 1979 Alfetta GTV running a later twin spark engine with an LSD transaxle V6 brakes and fast road suspension. It handles fantastically well and is as quick as the slower 911's on the track, but still a great touring car for everyday use. Steering is pin sharp. Here in Australia the only thing that lets it down for everyday use in summer is lousy air conditioning. Had to laugh at that video about what the pommies think is a fun road to drive on. Here In Melbourne, Victoria Australia we spoilt for great roads an hour or so out of the city. An early morning mid-week drive, it's as much fun as you can have with your pants on. All at a fraction of the cost of an air cooled 911.

@evelcustom9864

7 күн бұрын

@@paulgulliver659 😁😂

If you must, a 3.0 SC with the updated chain tensioner, the air box flapper install on the CIS box, and a vacuum advance. They are the best hope for a normal guy who wants to keep one on the road.

I had a ride in one as a kid and it left a lasting impression on me. It seemed so planted and the acceleration and squirtability gave the impression it could overtake almost anywhere in the shortest of gaps. But like you, I'd baulk at the current price and would probably settle for one of the later models at less than half the price. But if money wasn't the issue then I'd go for any 911 from the early 70s to this model.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Agreed! With no money concerns I'd own one of these SCs alongside a 997.2 manual! Would be happy with pretty much any of the cooking Carrera specs too!

One of my grail cars, lovely.Thank you.

Great review better then most channels, most people just what to go on about how fast a car is where this is difference, l subscribe straight away this type or car is not transportation it’s love it’s a hobby 😂👏🏽👊🏽

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

This is the kinda comment that makes my day, Jermaine. Thanks so much, honestly it's hugely appreciated! I now have plenty more Porsche content coming my way from this kind community, so I hope you enjoy those bits too!

@jermainerobinson7098

19 күн бұрын

The review got my attention straight away it’s the way you delivered it at some point l am thinking about buying a bmw M2 or an old Porsche 911 997 Carrera S 2005 the M2 is the car of the moment good reviews from Clarkson and Harris but the Porsche is older but more special Child hold dream but the m2 is newer and just as fast what would you buy both similar money?

Nice to see you back mate 👍🏼

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

You too mate! I hoped you'd be here to see the nod to your lovely motors at the beginning!

Nicely done! As a 50+ year lover of 911s, but having never actually had the opportunity to really drive one, I’d like to say that you cured me of my diabolical longing…but you didn’t - damn you! ;^)

@petrolpoodle6617

3 күн бұрын

Hahaha this is a great comment! Thank you and I apologise that I've poured petrol/gas on the fire!

I had a 911 991.2 type and an old backdated 911SC and ended up cringe SC 9 out 10 times as it was so much more fun and engaging. Sold the 991.2 and still have the SC.

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Wow! And those are truly different ends of the spectrum aren't they! Especially given the size of the 991! Congats on keeping the classic! Sure the 991 was brilliant in its own right though.

I had a 997, currently have an 1986 3.2. Even though the 997 was faster and had all the modern amenities. I truly enjoy driving the slower analog 3.2 more. Something about rolling through the gears with the old 915 trans as you mentioned, really thinking about where each gear is, putting more effort into each shift that makes it more enjoyable.

3:23 Pascha interior! Gorgeous!

I'm 58 and the 911 was one of the quintessential sports cars in the 80's so for me air cooled represents tons of nostalgia. Also having seen the 1987 movie No Man's land made me want one even more though historically I was more of a 928 guy since the 90's and have owned three but in 2014 I suddenly became infatuated with classic air cooled 911's but the prices kept me from buying until I gave in last December on a grand prix white 1982 911 SC and I cannot stop looking at the car. It's truly an icon. I owned a 99 996 for eight years prior but it never hit the spot that this air cooled car does for me.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Excuse my copy and paste reply below but as I just touched on nostalgia, I'll say that I totally get it myself! I realised I forgot to mention that obviously the nostalgia is such an important and understandable part of that value. I grew up in the 1990's and early 00's, and for me, my dad owning a '99 Impreza WRX STI 'rally car for the road' and that general era of Impreza vs Evo etc just fills me with a ridiculous amount of nostalgia. I would now be one of those people spending farrrrrr too much for an immaculate 90's Impreza when not long ago they were ten a penny for £4k!

@24hourgmtchannel64

20 күн бұрын

@@petrolpoodle6617 Thanks. Yes, nostalgia plays a huge role IMO. As you can probably tell from my age, I entered teenhood when the 80's began and enjoyed the period immensely and even then knew it was a special time. Some had Ferrari, some had Lamborghini, I had Porsche posters on my bedroom wall with all the great 80's music on the radio. Today I enjoy turning on some 80’s music in the garage and working on my 82 911 SC almost as much as driving it. It connects me to the car even more. If you have a chance, watch the 1987 movie No Mans Land with Charlie Sheen. It's a must watch classic for all Porsche lovers.

@tc4497

19 күн бұрын

Air cooled is 😎

Love my 76 911S Targa. All Analog. on the rails cornering. Smiles for miles.

that "other car" is a 1981 VW diesel rabbit. Bulletproof !

Like the muscle car market, the 911 market lost it's mind around the 90/00's You could buy NICE muscle cars for under $4000 in the early 90s all day. Chevelles, Corvettes, Tri-power GTO's, Impalas etc. I bought a 1966 Mustang GT with all options including A/C for $3600 that could have simply been polished. However; my dad opened his checkbook for me to do a full restoration and learn more about cars than I ever thought I would over a summer.

Agree with everything you said. I have the 85 Carrera

I own a 1976 911s with a bigger engine but still the 915 gearbox, I think you got the review spot on how rewarding these cars are to drive 996 just hasn't got the same feel. When you drive one of the older cars they are more of a challenge to drive well. I think they are still undervalued a ferrari of this age would cost more to buy and would cost more to keep on the road.

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Thanks so much and congrats on owning such a fun piece of history! Great point re: the Ferrari, I hadn't even thought about what they'd be worth!

@1:35 The 914 is one of my favourite cars. We bought one in to the 90's for $10K

I own a few Porsches- my love of air cooled starts with a 356, a heavily modified 1968 and a 1972 (work in progress😳) then … my favorite, the ‘92 964. It’s the most remarkable car which captures a toe hold in the old and a glimpse of what’s to come; followed by what I would call the great transition 911 which is a ‘96 993 C4 wide body. It goes on from there to a 997.1 Turbo and two 991.2’s (a turbo and a Cab) I’m not beating my chest here, I’m blessed to own these cars. What do I jump in when I want to go somewhere? The 964 or the 993

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

That was a very enjoyable read! As I'm now new to paying proper attention to 911s I'm actually really enjoying these anecdotal reviews. Congrats on the epic collection!

thanks for wearing a proper wristwatch lol very nice review of the 911

@petrolpoodle6617

10 күн бұрын

That's really made me laugh 😂 😂 😂 thank you for the double compliment! (I hope)

@splok2

10 күн бұрын

@@petrolpoodle6617 i just despise smart watches lol. Yup those were real compliments from a budget car and watch enthusiast. Translation: can only afford beat up BMWs and casio G-shocks lol.

@petrolpoodle6617

10 күн бұрын

@@splok2 😂 😂 😂 That's brilliant! And honestly every time I put on this bright, plasticky action man toy of a watch it just makes me smile 😂. It's the anti-watch! It's like you're trying to prove that you aren't luxurious! 😂

Good video. Certainly easier to work on if you’re a home DIY mechanic. Not fast, so ideal for a daily. I have a 997.1 manual which I love but; do I take it to the limit. Rarely. It’s too fast really but it’s half the price. Old cars are cool, new cars are better to quote James May.

I was close to buying 1972 911 2.4 -went for an Alfa 105 series GTV instead, then came a Delta Integrale EVO2, and now the F355 GTB with a manual gearbox, (and in between I had an Alfa 147 GTA and a little Panda 100hp). For me, the iconic Italian cars combine that delicate feminine beauty (even the Integrale has subtle delicate touches to its design) and ferocious muscularity, which the 911 just seemed to lack, but this is obviously my personal view on it. The engines are similar, when one really listens to them; a ferocious beauty to the notes. None of the Italian cars I owned caused me troubles reliability wise, but the vigilance is there, crossing fingers a little, all part of the experience, and as long as they are lovingly serviced, they look after themselves, and cause huge smiles for miles. I would not dismiss a GT3, or an old RS, but I just sense that I would not be so enamored by a 911. Oh and I owned a BMW 328...for 3 months. It is all very personal though, a lot of it is subjective, and depends on what you value.

Superb review, when you talk about value for money I’m a 996 c2 and a Boxster 986s owner, the 996 in my opinion is not 2 or 3 times the car that the Boxster is when you look at them from a price point of view. Early 986 has 2 boots, will eat the miles on a road journey, modern enough and for a decent one values start at 6k.

As someone who used to buy long hoods, SCs and Carreras for usd $8-15k all day long. I 100% agree with you. They are not worth the prices they changing hands for these days. The hype is just that, sorry. I bleed Porsche and have since birth, I have owned dozens of air cooled Porsches. I daily drove a 1988 Carrera for 10 years and an 83' SC before that..... they are not worth the $50-70k being asked today. For the people that missed the 'good ole days' I am sorry that you have to shell out so much to acquire one, it's a real shame. This all started when the 911 turned 50yrs old and people like M. Walker began making short films romancing old 911s. Yes, I blame social media for letting the genie out of the bottle. Porsche is special and anyone who gets to experience one is lucky but now, you also have to be wealthy.

Nice review. Is it worth the money these days is a good question. There are a lot of options for the same money. Most modern cars will be faster 0-60 straight off the showroom floor with creature comforts (like airconditioning that actually works - yes good retrofits as produced by the owner thankfully) if thats what's important to you. But as an 84 Carrera owner - the drive, feel and sound of that flat 6 pushing from behind is addictive. I've pushed it into corner far harder than I should have and as long as you don't lift off it just tracks around. On purchase I was recommended to drive it like a motorbike - slow in and fast out and the back just plants firmly on the tarmac. It is the one car in my garage that will never be sold. I'd sell the house or my other cars or motorbikes! It is so much fun and egaging at speeds that won't be an instant loss of licence.

Nice review. I love Porsche, however, it’s the 80’s bedroom poster children lusting after these (myself included) so the prices flown up now that they have some cash, look at the prices of Sierra Cosworths…or Lancia Itegrale. I love the shape of the G-Body, however a manual 997 for me, step up shape/technology with some analogue nostalgia and great value half the price.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

That hits the nail on the head!

As an ex-Porsche technician I can say that the build quality is not all its claimed to be, they rust badly, engine is prone to oil leaks, iffy electrics, the heating is hit and miss, the A/C is useless. It’s not a patch on the 928:or the 944 turbo, both of which are years ahead dynamically & far better built.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Oooooo interesting! That's useful to know especially re: the durability of the 923 and 944 turbo! I suppose that even if they're prone to rust, oil leaks and iffy electrics they're probably still quite a leap ahead of other period classic cars? Just assuming so anyway having no data to hand haha!

@tc4497

19 күн бұрын

My 993 is none of the above 😉

@arthurdardalis

19 күн бұрын

@@tc4497 agree, 993 suffers from none of these issues, super reliable, really nice to drive, although as more equipment was added the engine bay “filled up” necessitating removing lots of parts in order to to access others, the Turbo was the worst in this respect. The G-series was an old chassis not getting any younger when it was launched in 1974, the 964 &993 were miles ahead overall.

@tc4497

19 күн бұрын

Yes the pre varioram ‘95 is a little cleaner and I understand the sentiment re the 964 but I love my ‘96 as a bridge between the classic and the modern I love them all and for my next one I would love to do a restomod on an SC 😎

@michaelteret4763

19 күн бұрын

928 ❤!

Good video right up until 16:12 when you said you would have a 997 over a 996...........How could you NOT want the last Porsche with a throttle cable! Never seen your stuff before but just subscribed on the strength of this vid.👍

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

Hahahaha that really made me laugh, I was thinking oh shit I'm about to get some hate here.... oh, plot twist! Hahaha Thanks very rmuch pal, welcome aboard! You'll be glad to know the 996 review is coming soon and someone in the comments has offered a 997 C2 manual! Might be the perfect comparison! Being new-ish to Porsche land I didn't know the 996 was the last with a throttle cable! Having not driven a 997 yet, does it really make that much of a difference? I couldn't put my finger on the 996 but I did adore the immediacy of the throttle response, so perhaps this was a part I was unaware to be thankful for!

@robertsanders9068

17 күн бұрын

@@petrolpoodle6617 There is a KZread channel called 'The Throttle Cable' by a guy with a 996 (and a GT3), well worth having a binge watch!

fun car to drive and worth it and more

One of the best cars I’ve ever owned. I still have the 72 911t and love the daily driver 99 996 c4. I’ve had the 72 since 1990 will not part with it for any money.

Nothing else ticks more boxes than an aircooled 911. Most of the owners I know have owned their cars for well over 10 years, myself included with 18 years with the same car and over 80k miles, although the car now has 160k and has never been apart. Porsche, there is no substitute!

I love the style, and the feeling of connection with the vehicle, but i do agree that a vintage sports car like this just gets absolutely gapped by a modern day minivan - isn't worth a $75k+ usd price tag.

The MX-5RF would be a definite like with like comparison . I think I would go for a brand new Mazda without having the geriatric care required though still a magnificent piece of engineering .

996.1 owner here. Although definitely not as sexy or “valuable”, I believe a sorted 996 provides one of the best values in the car market. And as for beauty, I’m ok with sharing headlights from a 911 GT1 and a steering wheel from a Carrera GT 😉

I drove an SC for most of the 90s & loved it. I would have one now as a 2nd or 3rd car, let's not talk about the $50K part.

This Porsche is fitted with the 915 gearbox, not the best but remember that car is over 40 years old and will most likely drive better than most cars of its day and is still a great drive today. I know as I own a 1987 model and love it every time I take it out.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Ahhhh interesting! This is all very new to me, I appreciate learning the little intricate ins and outs. I absolutely adored driving it, it seems the Porsche light bulb has finally gone on over my head hahaha!

@mikeburke603

20 күн бұрын

@@petrolpoodle6617 I was bought up on fast ford of the era and nothing can compare to the Porsche 911, maybe understandable due to the prices oh and they both marks rust!!

I'd recommend trying a LHD 3.2 G50. Much better driving position, more power, easier shifting.

Air-cooled flat 6 911 Porsches are a visceral experience. Not for everybody, but nothing is for everybody.

I never “got” the 911 either and I hated the shape. Eventually a mate twisted my arm and boy did I get it, in fact I got two. Not quite as special as the final TVR cars, but still amazing.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

I know, right!? How has it gone from my brain filtering them all out on the roads, no ounce of excitement at all to... I'm on AutoTrader looking them up daily!

I rented an '83 911SC a few years back and the main thing I noticed was how HEAVY all the controls were. It was very raw and analog, just felt much heavier than it was. It made me think that an early 911, like from the 60s, with skinnier tires, would be a more fingertip, delicate driving experience, which is what I prefer. Those early 911s are also much more expensive, perhaps for good reason.

@overbuiltlimited

20 күн бұрын

No power steering on either car. The earlier cars are lighter feeling though due to narrower tires and a bit less weight on the front end.

@verdict1163

20 күн бұрын

@@overbuiltlimited Yes, the tires are the difference. Early 911s had 165-section round-shoulder tires. Stock 911SC tires are practically steamrollers in comparison, and the steering is much heavier as a result. Clutch is also heavy in the 911SC.

@sassthathoopie

18 күн бұрын

I've driven 2x 964, 993, 997, backdate 3.2 Carrera, and a 1974 2.7. The oldest car was the most fun, and suffered the least with the heavy feeling. But ultimately the weight, the rust and the Porsche tax on everything particularly engine work led me to buying a 1978 Alpine A310 with Gr4 Triple Webers: Same layout, same dimensions, same power, amazing steering, 200kg less, fully independent rally car suspension, half the price and a GRP body that won't rust. @petrolpoodle6617

Different angle: early Boxster. I have driven different 911 and currently own a 997 C2 manual and I must say that my 2.7 986 is as much fun as any of them. Light, engine in the middle, revvy, open, etc etc. It is a no-nonsense, simple, exploitable drivers car. I had the chance to drive a friends open 991 back to back a while ago and while the 991 was of course the much faster car, it just bored me with its christmas tree of a dashboard constantly shouting answers to questions that no one had asked and it‘s relative detachment from the convertible experience. The 986 feels raw and naked in comparison. Bargain of the decade in my book.

The 964 & 997.2 are the sweet spots for me. 964 is the original size and design. 997.2 is modern without bulk.

I watched this video as the thumbnail appealed. I have never been a fan of porkers & think the 911 is overrated. I think the 986 Boxster I owned is a very good car, but a tourer not a sportscar. The late 70’s SC targa I drove was just not very good. I owned a new K series Caterham at the time and dynamically, the Caterham trounced the SC hands down - I fact it destroyed any interest I had 911’s. Today, having owned a 986, I prefer a Caterham and an Elise S1 any day over the porker. Is an SC worth 50K? Just no way, a £10K 986 Boxster is easily twice the car.

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Oooooo see I definitely agree that compared to a Caterham it doesn't compare, but then nothing other than a Lotus does! I've driven 3 or 4 Caterhams now and they're just absolutely sensational. They are THE definition of driving! I am driving a 986 Boxster soon so I'll try to remember to get back to you with my thoughts. I have driven a 987.1 Boxster S though and was very impressed!

I own a 1987 coupe. I bought it in 2003 when only a handful of enthusiast cared about these cars. In fact I was looking for a Boxster at the time and "settled" on an older 911. I spent less money for the car than I would have on a new Dodge Neon. It was like finding a diamond on the beach, but I only learned so after I drove it. I used to drive it every day to work in the summer, and then my Jetta in the winter. It seldom turned the heads of anyone who didn't know what it was. It wasn't all that uncommon to wave at fellow air cooled 911 owners on the road. I never see them anymore. I still own the car. Even after getting married my wife never pressured me to get rid of it. I thought it would break me in repair cost, but it never did. I never had to put more that $1,500 in to her at any one time. It has been reliable and easy to work on in my own garage, to the extent I wanted to do that. Even after all these years when I get behind the wheel, the car never lets me forget what I am driving. It demands my attention but rewards my effort. It is not possible for me to drive the car without cracking a bit of a smile. It is an old friend with high standards. I didn't grow up wanting one of these cars. They were not common in the Midwest. I simply happened upon one at an opportune time. For me it was not the prestige of the car or the hype which was the draw. It was really the car I fell in love with. I understand why these cars have gained such fame, but it is a shame they are now out of reach for most enthusiasts. I guess it was bound to happen. I would not be able to buy one today, so I am glad I remain the steward of the one currently have. Still, the car has it's magic, and that has not faded over the years.

@shabbos-goy9407

20 күн бұрын

spot on

@petrolpoodle6617

19 күн бұрын

This is the most poetic, beautifully written comment on this video. I felt like sitting in front of the fire and cracking open a bottle! Beautiful and a huge congratulations, truly glad you've held on to it and don't look back on it as the one that got away!

@johnfaassen6151

18 күн бұрын

I too have an '87 . . . for 30 years now . . . a Porsche was not even on my radar at the time . . . almost bought a Mustang . . . but then my sister called me and said "if you haven't bought a car yet you should come look at the car my mechanic is selling" - so I took a two hour drive to check it out - and one look at the Guards Red Whale Tail coupe, and one ten minute ride in the passenger seat, and I was hopelessly hooked . . . even after 30 years, every time I take it out it still puts a smile on my face and the car still gets thumbs up from total strangers - I will never sell it!

the SC is an incredible ride

Excellent

@petrolpoodle6617

20 күн бұрын

Thank you (if that's aimed at myself) and otherwise, yes I fully agree (if aimed at the car haha)!

What about the Singer 911 DLS?

911 targa 1987, 964 C2 tip and 997 I 4S cab. Three completely different 911. I love to drive especially both air cooled as you experience a lot of exitement also at legal speed. 997 is simply brutal for the road. Had and traded the 997 turbo and driven practically all models of 991 series. A real threat to my driving licence. This would be my rational explanation, the 911 is simply unreached in all of its forms and a reason l am happy to haven been born in a right period 😂

A car from that era is worth it's premium. 60s and early 70s sports cars/sedans are a visceral experience unmatched by both later and earlier cars; The perfect middle ground between man and machine, with all the sounds and smells that you can only get from fully purpose built race car or a production car of this era or previous. If you haven't driven a car of this era you will not fully understand the allure. That said, non restored or restomod early 911s are over priced, but that's a cultural swing that various cars go through, the bmw 2002 and CS for instance, and if I had it to blow, I'd pay it. I sold a rusted bare shell of a '70 BMW for what I paid for my daily driver. And it's only going to go up. Get in while these cars are still obtainable, in my opinion. The experience is worth it and the value will hold.

Looks incredible but the amber headlights gotta go

@petrolpoodle6617

21 күн бұрын

It's stunning isn't it! And funnily enough the first time I saw them I wasn't sure but they've won me over and friends have seen the photos (pre video release) and gone oooo love the headlights!

@ClassicRetrofit

20 күн бұрын

@@petrolpoodle6617 I fitted the yellow lamps for a trip to Lemans a few years back (suitably French). I love them

Angry Germanic fingers. Love it.

Owned a 3.2 Carrera. Like a fool, I took what was a great offer at the time. Looking back it wasn’t such a good decision.

The problem with the SC models is the 915 gearbox. The later G50 5 speeder is the better gearbox. These are fitted to the 84 onwards 3.2 Carrera SE etc..

@jandeman198

20 күн бұрын

a tired 915 is not great. A good 915 is just wonderful. Mine is somewhere in between and i truly love it, mechanical, deliberate shifts, it teaches you patience and precision. It probably adds to the sense of occasion compared to 'easy' G50 boxes. The real problem with SC's is the tired CIS injection. ;)

@michaels2916

20 күн бұрын

These cars are just fun. Have a rebuilt 915 trans with a 915 Wevo Gate Shift and Porsche short shift kit. It now shifts like I would expect for a car from this vintage. Before the rebuild, was not much fun as it was worn out. The upgraded G50 did not impress me and took away from the classic air cooled experience.

4:19 : seen from this side, this mirror is not aesthetically pleasing, Otherwise, very nice car, magnificent color! !