Thank you SO MUCH for the finish on my guitar and spending 4 days building my guitar with such a wonderfully helpful team of deeply passionate teachers was perfect. And the bonus of course was to take part in this episode… Can’t wait to get my next guitar (Jazzmaster) also hydro dipped and have the same finish by you guys.

@smmyers5956

4 ай бұрын

Nice color choice. Great choice for your next guitar. I love offset guitars like the Jazzmaster.

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

4 ай бұрын

@@smmyers5956 can’t wait to start it!

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

I would have something about ''Liverpool manager seeks retirement hobby'' in the title. I like the result of that first attempt.

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

Ай бұрын

Haha - I just saw the comment and this is not the first time I get the Klopp comment… as a Gooner, never mind… 😂

I like how this turned out!

You can do this with spray paint too and it comes out with some interesting cells depending on how/what angle you spray them on the water.

thank you for always being prepared to show us when things need adjusting because the concept of the head space the wood laughs at and ignores. I too have longed to do this and seeing it is possible even when it goes wrong initially. Thank you folks!

Experimental luthiery enlightens us all. Clear coat dipping works fine if you can suspend the part while drying to avoid visible marks - but it can be kind of messy. Large parts can be "basted" in a tray - pour on clear coat, then spoon the runoff back onto the uncoated sections. Keep everything clean and the leftover can be saved and used for the next part to be dipped.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the hints.

I ordered a swirl from Kiesel and got to see it in process at the factory today 😁

I think it deserves to go into the museum as an exhibit about new ideas...

It's a start Ben. It's obvious you liked the process of the experiment. Rock on!

This is awesome! The white, black, silver and gold is very classy and would like to see some mixed like fire as well. Lava bass!

In 1967 - hippy time, I hung my guitar on my mum's washing line and threw tiny cans of enamel paint at it. The result was something similar!! My dad was not happy that some of the paint ended up on his lawn!!

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like that was fun - but - not great for a lawn!

I have done this before on a mannequin at art college; we discovered it was best to use car spray paints and spray them into a funnel to capture them (do it outside 🤪). Obviously you can then use car paint primer made of the very paint you are using! Another trick we used, suggested by a passing physics lecturer, was to reinforce the waters surface tension by adding ice and salt.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for all those tips. Will bear them all in mind.

looking forward to version 2!

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

So are we.

Thanks for the video - Cheers from Canada

Great video, and I like that it didn't just end up perfectly perfect like every other hydro dip video. It's a good result, and you have an idea what is next.

Well damn! If I didn’t already dream of hopping the pond to visit the museum.. Hydro-dipped-dummies holding cool guitars is an absolute must see.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Welocme any time!

I tried a couple of years back with several techniques and failed. (My poor test guitar body went through hell) Enamel hobby paint (with Borax) and also just using rattle can acrylics. I always laid some fresh prime-and-paint on before each test and allowed it to dry. I've been wanting to revisit it and discovered the marbling paint that you used. This came at the right time as it has shown me a lot of things I need to be aware of when doing this. I'm considering transferring the paint to a syringe, so I can get it onto the water more quickly and evenly. Plus I think I'm going to need a much bigger tub to dip the body into.

Nice colors on your guitar Stephan. Good choice getting it sprayed by Crimson. The gloss makes it pop!

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

4 ай бұрын

The work those guys did was

You learnt not just a new process but picked up some nuanced tips at the same time NOT a failure I very much doubt it would work but i might have to drag out the big square bucket again and see what happens with a few different oil based stains over bare timber...

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

4 ай бұрын

Honestly that process is an almost never fail one. You always endup with something interesting

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Go for it. Different every time - such fun.

Ben, you can try some spirit-based stunning stain on a piece of flamed maple?

That was great, thanks for showing the whole process. You said it was a failure, in a way, but didn't you guys say earlier that you dip it many times? Why not keep going and see what happens?

Its not a traditional swirl that people might shoot for, but theres absolutely nothing wrong with what youve got there, Looks good as is!

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. We will keep trying

Having done several of these, here's my tips: Get rid of the little "shaker tops" on the Magic Marble bottles and use "eye dropper applicators" to place the paint with purpose. Use WAY more paint than you think you need. Move with purpose! You basically have to have a ticking clock in your head. From the first drop of paint hitting the water, you need to be done within 3 to 4 minutes tops. Otherwise the paint skins up too much and gets gloppy. Use a hair dryer to blow the remaining paint off the surface after dipping. 😎

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

4 ай бұрын

Good idea! I find those tops frustrating as the drop is unpredictable! I’ll use that tip for my next one!

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for all the tips.

@VoyeurGuitars

3 ай бұрын

@@CrimsonCustomGuitars I always tell people, watch this video, it's the single best video to help you on your swirl painting adventure... kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZ6f3NONaLGniNI.htmlsi=4313ILf8sRmKuMkG

@VoyeurGuitars

3 ай бұрын

@@stephanegonthier-dz3mq I always tell people, watch this video, it's the single best video to help you on your swirl painting adventure... kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZ6f3NONaLGniNI.htmlsi=4313ILf8sRmKuMkG

You have done with your guitar more or less what we bookbinders do with marbled paper which originally comes from the Japanese art of suminagashi.

That was a good 1st attempt. It may not have come out as you anticipated. But I liked the intensity of the colour at the start fading gradually as it reached the neck. I think Crimson has found a finish medium?

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you - we will keep trying.

Been there done that, bigger container... multiple practice runs on "blanks" before trying to do a final product. Also, Humbrol enamel model paints work very well.

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

4 ай бұрын

Totally… bigger container and primer paint instead of gloss.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips.

Great!

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Not too bad for a first attempt - always learning.

doesn't look that bad. I like it

imagine using a color-shift paint as a base...(blue-purple-gold) with "1980's neon" hydro dipped paint....So the base color will shift, and highlight the curves of the body, while being eye-catching with the neon swirls....Imagine using a guitar body that's less "slab-like", and more curved, like a Les Paul, or an SG with those carved horns for the paint to color shift underneath....

It still turned out alright I believe. The front looks real nice the back not as much but really the front should be the focal point anyway right.

Interesting to see what happens with the guitar immersed before dripping the paint

waiting to see another

Good video. My 2 cents worth: The paint is hydro phobic. Sooooooo, the paint wont stick to a wet guitar. The paint has to go on as the guitar goes in. putting more paint on top before withdrawal probably wont work.

Cool video... I've dipped a few guitars in the past and I used a painted (white) base coat lightly sanded and it worked great. You dont need a primer base for the paint to stick. DEFINITELY get a bigger dipping tank or bin. That is really important. You have to work quick once the paint hits the water. It dries really quick. Also, lose the lamp. I know you want good light for the video, but it is making the paint dry even quicker, which you dont want. Good luck.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Great tips! Thank you

It took me about 3 weeks of experimenting before I could figure it out with the best water temps, borax AND magic marble paints. The OG guys like darren (who did the original Jem) and even the newer guys keep their secrets so closely gaurded. Its really a skill to keep colors seperated, the direction of the “waves” and making sure the paint doesn’t bubble or pull.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips

Try this....put the guitar in first, chuck in the pigments, pull the guitar out.

I've done a few and it's extremely addicting. If you look at my channel you'll see the process I did on one guitar as well as another video updating that build. I plan on doing it again this summer if time allows.

It’s an interesting technique. I really liked the Tele that Stefan had created and Crimson had finished. Not sure about the one created on screen 😂, but it did look a bit like marble in parts , which is cool. Very interesting. Mmm, thinking of having a go.

@stephanegonthier-dz3mq

4 ай бұрын

Thank you - very happy with it! I think the main 2 issues we had was the guitar had a gloss finish and we should have used a primer painted guitar instead and use a much bigger container

cool finish Ben

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

thank you. We will keep trying

That blank upper bout just begs for a graphic of some sort.

Still looks sweet!

Nice to see you guys experiment with something new. So we can learn from it as well by example. Also, is Ben now going for a Jack Murphy beard? Sporting the beard of shame? 😋

Crimson you have to take it to the Next Level, sorry but fall Short of Awesomeness must think out of the Box first, DipThe Whole Guitar 🎸 without the Fretboard . Picasso always painted a Full Picture.

Pretty cool for a "fail". I'd make that into a awesome axe....

James Tyler guitars are the best at this sort of thing.

Awesome, 2 questions what is the borax proportion to water, and what brand of enamel are you using, tried looking for it on Amazon but not available in my country, thanks in advance

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

There are thousands of products and videos on the internet - here is just one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6tqrcmJodCtdqg.html

@mauriciolalinde

3 ай бұрын

@@CrimsonCustomGuitars well thansk for answering but, that video didnt answer any of my questions, that tecnic he is refering to in that video is completely diferent than what you are doing, he is using films over the water, not the paint directly into it! that is why i would like to ask again, do you know how much borax powder is needed per gallon of water for it towork? thanks again

Maybe a loft cold water tank has suitable dimensions. They seem to be short and wide, easily available and probably not hideously expensive. Though you're in a former dairy barn - theres probably old drinking troughs somewhere nearby to repurpose? 🤔

If you want to know about finishing by dipping in varnish ask someone who builds cane fly rods. That is how they are normally treated. For a guitar you would need a trash can full of varnish, so probably not practical.

Hydro dipping, great topic There might be more?

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

maybe......

It's years since I've done that, but it was for paper. 🤔👍

Okay this is going the same way as burning guitars somebody STOP Ben please 😅

Acrylic spray paints work much better and take longer to gel up. And obviously a bigger tank makes it easier.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Always learning........thank you for the ideas.

Oh man, nothing in that building will be safe! Where o' where will this lead...

@stumpthegeek

4 ай бұрын

Well, Ben did say something about hydrodipping some mannequins...

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

We never know whee anything will lead........

@stumpthegeek

3 ай бұрын

@@CrimsonCustomGuitars ooh please tell me you're going to hydrodip a Sam mannequin.... that would just be too cool

@tahoemike5828

3 ай бұрын

@@stumpthegeek They are going to need a swimming pool to dip those in.

@stumpthegeek

3 ай бұрын

@tahoemike5828 well maybe not, most mannequins come apart into individual pieces, arms, legs, torso, head, so a mediumish tank will do

Whats with hydrodipping all of a sudden?! See it everywhere rifht now

The video quality of your videos is way below what it could be. I have KZread premium which says I'm getting "1080p Enhanced", but what I see on the screen is barely above 480p quality. You might want to reevaluate your video encoding to a much higher quality transcode after editing. It seems like you're losing a lot of quality somewhere.

@CrimsonCustomGuitars

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. We are looking into this.

Put the body in the water it can wait on the bottom, add the paint, then pull the body out and be quick about the whole thing .

@cheapskate8656

4 ай бұрын

I dont think that will work David because the paint wont stick to the water and will probably run off the guitar.