Thank you. I noticed the same difference that you did. Always enjoy all that you do. Anxious for the next comparison.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video man I absolutely love this. This is almost exactly how I use my 500 series rack for mixing at home. It’s usually not about reinventing the wheel but rather for me it’s more about feeding the signal through the gear for subtle tone/stereo image shaping and warmth. You really can hear the difference. This is the main reason why I decided to start a hybrid set up after mixing/producing exclusively with plug-ins for the past 10 years or so. I think everybody can learn something valuable from this no matter how big or small your budget is. 500 series modules really are the best way to learn and experiment with really reputable analog gear for the first time. To me it’s incredibly inspiring to think about how these days we pretty much have everything we need to make a hit record from our home.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing and for the support

Thank you for doing these watching these have been very informative and I’ve learned a lot.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Great experiment looking foward to more of your future results

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video man! Love how concise and to the point this is

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

I always hear a wider stereo field and more depth whenever I run tracks through hardware. All the transformers add that goodness. I need to set up a DAW session modeled after this, looking forward to part 2. Thanks, Dave.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Malcolm

I could hear the difference in my studio monitors with the audio running through the hardware. Plan on going toward a hybrid setup with some 500 units so these videos are super helpful right now.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I am able to help!

I hear more punch with this hybrid setup thanks for sharing. I know a lot of people do it but at lease you showed an a/b compassion. This made it sound like a complete project without it even being finished yet. Once I get my studio I’ll be doing this

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@iengineer_247

4 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Question did you record directly into the Presonus console then sent the stems out via output to the analog gear back into the daw???

@hafimula

2 жыл бұрын

@@iengineer_247 do you have your studio yet?

Yep the difference is clearly audible. It’s like you say it’s not about tonal changes it’s about depth, detail and width. Basically you almost feel it more than you hear it. It’s kind of feels/sounds more 3D. Look forward to your other tests and comparisons.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Right on!

I heard the same as yours, this is very helpful for us who are purely in the box mixers. Maybe you could have a routing video someday on how to properly connect these in case I'll be able to buy a hardware.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Will do!

OMG, THE PRINTED TRACK!!!!!!! AND THAT IS JUST WITH AS YOU STATED " A LITTLE EQ, AND COMP" WOW THOSE NEVE ARE SO THICK!!!!!!!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your support! Be sure to check out my website for even more training. Also, a brand new home recording podcast is available www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/Podcast

Awesome David, As stated its hard to compare the two, But in your next video we should be able to make a better comparison. As you already know. I'm sold on running the hardware. especially through buses. But also like many of the plug-ins. Thanks

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Using hardware is fun.....more videos are coming

Like minds...I also purchased the Neve 1073CV and the Neve 2264A. I love the analog presence. I also have a hybrid studio.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Very cool!

I definitely hear the compression on the snare and kick which gives it more of a good vibe.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your support! Be sure to check out my website for even more training. Also, a brand new home recording podcast is available www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/Podcast

Very interested in the next videos! This one makes me reconsider that 500 rack. Was thinking about just doing a 2 bus eq and comp, but this is tempting me!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@tobysandovaloficial

2 жыл бұрын

I am in the same boat, very tempting.

That's a pretty nice comparison and thank you for doing this. I was curious to hear this kind of difference and since I don't have that kind of hardware, it's a welcome video. Have you tried going with the raw tracks through the Mix FX? I'm curious what would be the difference, although the default Mix FX plugin is modeled after SSL console, I think.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video big difference

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

depth was the first that came to mind to my ear. I heard more of a difference in basic leveling between the to...the raw was louder ;)

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

barely...

Through my KRK 5's there is a difference between the raw and printed, but it's not a massive difference. It'll be interesting to see how this develops...

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

its accumulative so across and entire mix the difference becomes greater.

Great review David, wondering about what hardware sounds like as you get into mixing starts to niggle at you after you mix for a while and develop your ears, I did a similar test for myself with mixanalog and access analog services and put the software emulations on, compared them to the hardware and it was that "width and depth" you explain you hear that seems to be the difference in the hardware... My question to you and what I'd love to see more of (and I've just started seeing this line of video from you today, you may have even done this already?) is how the hardware emulations sound to that hardware, NOT in the exact same settings, but if you tweak the software emulations a tad, to get the almost exact same sound (well as much as you can with the software emu's) and see if there's a significant difference to justify the expense of hardware, I got it close, but there was a 1-3% "magic" to the end sound from the hardware... Following your progress with these tests with great interest, thanks for taking the time to explain them and share with us!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! There are no more hardware demo video on this channel as I have a new channel dedicated to the analog workflow. Search for Mixing Music Analog

You are correct, it's not really a fair comparison, but still it's an interesting contrast...what I'd be curious to know is how hard you were driving the Neve preamp, because to me it's the added harmonics that are the most critical addition a hybrid set up gives you...

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

stayed tuned

Hey, Dave! Have you tried using Studio One's plug-in Pipeline XT to use your analog hardware and then bounce the track? I just pulled the Dangerous Music D-Box out of my system so I can run analog hardware through the Line Inputs and Outputs. I haven't tried it yet.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

I have not yet. I plan to this weekend. Right now I am just using my interface in/out to make the loop in and out of S1. I dont know if Pipeline XT is a better solution but I plan to check it out

I just happened to have started experimenting with this yesterday using my Daking and Capi 500 series preamps. In your next vid any chance you can show how you're running the signal out of the daw, into the preamp and back? I've been sending mine out into the mic input of the preamp using a -25db pad made by Shure to attenuate the signal in hopes that it will be closer to mic level. Seems to be working but I'm curious if there's a better way or if I need a pad that attenuates even more to get the best results. Glad I came across your channel I'm looking forward to checking out the next round of vids on this subject. Thanks and take care.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

That video is coming soon

@vikramjitbanerjeetuki

4 жыл бұрын

Same here I want to know how he hooked the hardware up? All the settings and routing

It would be awesome if you can show how to reprint into studio one. I tried this before but there seemed to be a delay where the tracks were lagging. Thanks for your videos

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Will do!

Hi, really nice and informative video there! I started to build the 1073 preamp and eq from Soundskulptor, which should perform exactly like your Neve modules. They have the Neve compressor as well. How much of an added value would you consider the compressor to the typical Neve sound? I want to get either this compressor or go with something entirely different like a G-buss compressor. I already have 1176 and LA3A, and plan to add more within the coming year. Is the comp versatile for tracking? I'd mainly want it there to impart the richness of the sound while tracking.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Very informative, is your NEVE link together w/link cable or just output to input chain ? Thanks

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Output to Input via 1/4 cables

@tobysandovaloficial

3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Thank you !!

Just ordered a 500 rack, pretty excited, but the killer is how expensive the cards are and the infinite choices…. That Neve stuff is just so smooth… nearly 7 grand for a stereo set of cards for that channel strip, it should be mind blowing….

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, hardware is not a cheap that is for sure. If you are into hardware for mixing check out my other youtube channel Mixing Music Analog kzread.info

@robertw1871

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Thanks, was already subscribed to your other channel…

I know I'm Johnny come lately to this particular video but I love home Recording made Easy. Who hears the most difference engineers or the general audience? I am in the process of investing in my first 500 series outboard equipment. I just need to know is that where I should put my hard earn loot into or some other aspect in my home studio? I already have good monitors and a good mic. Hey I even have room treatment. Now the thing I don't have is the experience most have. I've been in the music industry for over 50 years professionally Drummer/percussionist touring across the globe played on countless studio projects.but only a little over 10 years in the recording side of the industry. Your expert advice will be greatly appreciated. also thanks for all you do for the music industry. Love your unbiased approach keep up the great work. Thanks Darrell,

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

Жыл бұрын

Hi Darrell, before you spend a dime on gear, you may want to have a 1 on 1 consult session together so we can discuss your studio goals and develop a purchasing strategy. I would like to know more about what your goals are before making any suggestions. Here is a link to the info about my 1 on 1 Zoom calls. www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/services?

How do you re-record your line out from interface back into the preamp? Don't you need some kind of (attenuator) to get it back down to mic level, which is a lot (like 30db)?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

I dont understand the question

I wonder if Waves NLS plugin can also achieve this, and how does it compare with hardware ? Tnx

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

not sure. have not done that yet

Hi great vid man, ive just got into hybrid mixing with analog gear, i was just wondering when mixing with mono analog chain, i see you have a stereo bus compressor and 2 tape emulators for stereo, was wondering how it was incorporated on a mono mix, sorry for my lack of knowledge im just a newbie trying to learn,😅 cheers, i enjoy all of your mixing vids and would love you to do a vid, or even in comments explain cheers

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I'd like to hear you try and match what you did with hardware, in software so we could really hear the difference. Make sense?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

coming soon

Without headphones the 500 series is clearly more punchy and tight. In my studio, everything goes through hardware. And now even mixing with Dangerous Summing. It makes a huge difference.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for watching!!

Love your channel. I have a question. I am tryin to do a very similar method with my studio setup currently and am receiving issues when it comes to my signal path it seems. Can you break down your exact I/O method Cabling (XLR, Balanced/Unbalanced/Interface Input Setting). I've tried to research this on the internet and I can't find any proper answers, and I'm too dumb to understand if my cabling is causing issues or now. What I have is: Two Outputs from Interface (TRS) > DIYRE L2P Attenuator > XLR's > 500 Series Chassis > XLR out of Chassis (w/XLR to TRS Cable) > TRS Cable into Interface Inputs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

try this kzread.info/dash/bejne/aa6fpKhqisWdl5s.html

@routinefuss

3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy thank you!

Hey man, do you have a video where you process audio with the Neve 1073 lb Eq? Cheers!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

I dont sorry.

@preciseaudioblog

3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy No worries. Cheers!

How did you wire it up to be able to output to the pre?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

I have a few videos on my channel showing how my hardware is hooked up. Search it out.

I definitely heard the depth in the printed track

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Intro musix is dope

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Do you think Rupert Neve Portico channel will sound just as good? thank you!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

No idea. I have never used it

@AnthonyMartinsRock

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

The raw files sound like a demo, the hardware print has that radio ready touch. Thank you for this very helpful video Dave.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Toby!

Do you have any vids on how to hookup hardware to an interface and Studio One?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

not yet, coming soon

@toolondaboards

4 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Sounds good

@retsmej

4 жыл бұрын

Waiting...

@ProdByThatGuyFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I'd definitely be interested in that as well!

What kind of interface are you using

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

universal audio apollo X6

I think you will hear a difference dry... But I bet with equalization,compression and some effort you can get really really close. I could hear depth, not on ear buds. If I had my cans on I think I could.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your support! Be sure to check out my website for even more training. Also, a brand new home recording podcast is available www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/Podcast

Stereo widthnes is because of different phase shifts in L/R. The real hardware is not 100.0000% left/right-matching in the EQ due to physical components and their tolerances. That's the reason why perception of the HW is like "better sounding".

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

The hardware sounded deeper even though the print had an advantage of greater volume.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

what is that music ?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

a song from my mixing membership website www.mixingmadeeasy.net

I much prefer the sound through the Neve. It sounds more natural and polished.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The raw tracks are just too "boxy" for me to make a fair comparison at this point. The drums do sound clarified and seem to sit back a little further in the sound field. Not too long ago I built a Hairball Audio 1176 Blue Stripe clone and recorded some comparisons to the Universal Audio plugin and it was really hard to tell the difference even in the "All Buttons" mashed scenario. Even the wave forms looked almost identical. The biggest difference I found is that outboard gear is a HUGE time vampire compared to mixing in the box. Every recording scenario had to be done at real time vs. slapping on the plugin and your done. I now see why sound engineers are mixing mostly in the box. I can only imagine how long it took you to run each of those tracks through. Fun stuff though for sure. Looking forward to hearing what's next...

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@AnthonyMartinsRock

4 жыл бұрын

ShawnstaMonsta interesting enough, I find that plugins are far more fiddly and prone to time wasting. I went from in the box to out of the box. Now I can basically record by simply editing audio and basic mixing as hardware requires less effort to have “finished “ results.

I Like The Neve Tracks Best

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your support! Be sure to check out my website for even more training. Also, a brand new home recording podcast is available www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/Podcast

This is why hardware is still necessary

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

3 жыл бұрын

Well? I dont think it's "necessary" but I certainly hear your point and can't dis-agree.

U can clearly hear huge diferrence

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Hardware makes it sound like “a mix”.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

2 жыл бұрын

Well said