Great review. Trying to decide between 150i, 250i, and 300i

@pvclassic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm now on an erzburgrodeo 300. By far my favorite bike of all time.

Solid video! Looking at the 250 and the 150 for my first bike. Lots of experience in other extreme sports just not bikes. Just want something to ride open trail, race hare scrambles and ride lots of technical stuff on

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

So the 250 is the weapon of choice. The 150 is light but lacks the bottom and taps out early from what I hear. Sounds like you will want an enduro. Meaning 18 inch rear wheel, etc. Don't go with an MX bike as it won't offroad the same. Good luck.

Excellent review bud ! Nowhere near as good a rider as yourself so i feel the 250tpi is more than enough bike for me agree with the power comment comes in real smooth really like the bottom end on my bike and agree why would you play with the power valve, bike runs great KEEP UP THE VIDS LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks chris for kind words. Happy riding

Thanks for your video!

Good review.

Super review dude thanks 👍🏻✊🏻🏁

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Braap

@jamescruickshanks5755

4 жыл бұрын

Are you on Instagram if so send me your name so I can subscribe mine is young_rider_ajc ✊🏻🏁

Hey man, thanks for posting this. Its reassuring to me that my new 250 can be left alone and be a great bike as I am definitely not an A rider. I was wondering how much you weigh tho? I'm a little heavier at 240 lbs and I feel like the bike is a little soft.

@pvclassic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 180. You might need to change your rear spring and change springs in forks too.

Why the 250i as opposed to 300i? Just curious cause I'm on the fence since I already bought the 150i for my wife and LOVE it!!! However, I'm 275lbs (athletic) and don't know if the 300i would suite me better for the low to high altitude mountainous, muddy and root-filled terrain in the north cascades of WA state??? I had a YZ250FX last and am really digging the two strokes...also I'm wondering your thoughts between the Husky, TM, and Sherco since we have all the manufacturers near by. What do you think of each since you are such a skilled rider??? I would like to compete/race later for fun and wondering which route should I take and why? You seem to have many answers. Thanks, and have a good one. Subbed btw. 👍👌🤘💪

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

PNW... lived and raced there for 18 years. Im familiar with your terrain. And congrats to you on the 150i, and a wide that rides. I had a 2018 xcw300 non tpi prior to this 250, I loved that bike but the two are different animals. The 300 had 4 stroke characteristics. You can lug that bike and the linear power is smooth and endless. If I were riding the PNW I think I'd lean toward the new 300i. But id do 2 things, first id play with the power valve to get the kit out of it I like it if corners. I use that to my advantage out of corners and to seat hop the bumps. Second id go up 3 teeth on the rear sprocket. You have tight trails and when you get on a loose rocky rooted hill that low first gear will walk thru that stuff. You can't beat the pds suspension on the xcw, smooth and forgiving. If you ride eastern wa and like the faster flowy stuff you'd love the handling of the 250i. But for western id have to go 300. For what it's worth, the 250i doesn't lug as well as a 300 and the 300 doesn't handle as easily as the 250. But given your size you aren't going to have any problems making a 300 behave.

The power valve cover issue can be fixed easily without RTV by using the 2019 gasket. Sorry I don't have the PN#, but I'm sure Google will find it.

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

That’s a good looking bike, I have a 2020 250 xcw tpi and your sons blown motor concerns me a little, any advice on what to look for or adjust before I take mine out on its maiden voyage?

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing we could have done to avoid what happened to us. Manufacturer made a mistake by leaving out the base gasket. There are two. One on each side of the reed cage. His had one. Otherwise a great bike. Id suggest pulling the pipe every 10 hours and inspect the piston side walls. It's only one side, I get it, but it tells a story. Read the plug, that too tells a story. Great bikes all and all.

Would you say the power delivery is smoother on the newer 250i vs a 300? Miss my 2015 250 XC light feel vs my 19 300 XC-W. Thinking about switching back to a 250 however recall my 250 as a little too hard hitting for technical trails?

@pvclassic

2 жыл бұрын

No, at least not if you like to ride aggressive most the time. I too ride a 300 xc-w, I prefer the 300 but the 250 can be shot of fun and so light. I sold this Husky and now ride the erzburgrodeo 300. Loads of bottom, smoother on transition, but I road my sons 250 xc-w yesterday and did enjoy the pop.

Great review. I have a yz250x now. Have you ever rode one as I am curious on your opinion of the differences between the power delivery, suspension, and cornering

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

I have. My son raced that bike. Here are the things that stood out, power was great on the yz but feel quickly, gearing didn't lend to enduro riding like the husky or even better the ktm 250, suspension was ultra soft and requires mods to be competitive. The Japanese brands just don't have the enduro'ability a ktm or a husky have. IMHO

@davidsciulli7549

3 жыл бұрын

Can you define enduro a bit? Do you mean very slow first gear stuff going through 2-3 foot Boulder fields? Or technical single track in second/third?

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidsciulli7549 Enduro to me is all of the above. Up a waterfall one minute and onto technical single track the next. I like a well rounded bike not specific to motocross, desert, or trails. Ice owned and raced all of those bikes but for me today I like a well rounded geometry, power plant, transmission, and suspension. Husky and KTM provide the best bikes that meet these needs.

@davidsciulli7549

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Great vid. Could I ask why the TE? I’m very torn TE or TX. I ride a lot of sand and fast desert stuff. Light rider at 150 pounds. Also not sure if I want 250 or 300?

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

The TE comes with a headlight and tail light, we can ride our roads here in AZ, as long as you make an attempt to be street legal, and the headlight does that. I've had both the 250 and 300 and I'd take the 250 all day long. Lighter and more pop out of corners. The bike handles better IMHO, and power to weight ratio is perfect for me. You can't really go wrong here, you'll get good at anything you pick to ride if you ride it enough. Choose something you feel good about. Something that gets you excited about riding. The TE250i does this for me.

@SWFlowseeker

3 жыл бұрын

@@pvclassic Thx man. I’m just being pulled by the air forks. I’ve had a few 300’s and one 250. I do agree the 250 is a bit more fun to ride in most situations. Thx for your thoughts

Been wanting to pull the trigger on this bike I ride a crf450 for fast desert riding, will this bike feel more nimble and easier to turn and corner?? Also how does it feel and fast wide open sections ?

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

Nimble and easy to turn/corner aren't traits I look for in a desert race bike. But yes, these things bend and flick making them very popular in enduro and extreme enduro racing. They explode out of corners and can be ridden deep into the next corner because they are lighter and setup quickly for the next one. The CRF is a motocross bike making it a great cornering bike, but on the track. Inconsistent corners, like off-road corners, the CRF fig-gits. The rack/head angle on the CRF is tighter making the the 'trail' of that bike shorter than an off-road bike like the TE250 or the XC/XC-W. If you want a consistent riding bike with plenty of forgiveness in off-road you will NOT regret the slacker head angle of these bikes. Plus they're lighter, you'll feel that after 20 minutes. And when you hit gnar you'll be glad you made the trade. You won't regret it. BTW, I've raced Vegas to Reno twice on a big bore 4 and that's where they belong. Leave the woods, the gnar, the tech, and the flow to a 250 2 smoker. Hope this helps.

@jesusharp8065

4 жыл бұрын

JuniorQ big time think it’s time for a change!

Being that Husky doesnt make a TX250.. how would you compare the TE transmission to the KTM XCW transmission or the TX/XC trans? Is the TE ratio too wide to race harescrambles in A class?

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

I actually raced a guy that had a TX250, yes I had to ask...it was a TC250 built TX. Anyway, the trans depends on the race. My son and I both prefer the TE trans in technical enduro and tight woods. We both agree the XCW trans for open trail, desert, cross country situations. I know it sounds weird, but the TE has the right trans for technical racing. I don't mind the shifting, frankly it sets me up for corners and I know I'll have power out of the corners. The XCW I don't shift as much in technical situations.

@willcrain6786

4 жыл бұрын

JuniorQ wow thanks for the insight. So what is the biggest difference between the TE trans and the TX trans? I’m glad you pointed out there the XCW and TE trans are different cause my buddy and I had that discussion ago.

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

@@willcrain6786 completely different. The Husky is a riders bike IMHO but this puts me in the right power band for what I need.

Hi I’ve just got a 2020 te 250. What number of clicks are you out on the forks? Cheers just got a reference 👍🏻

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

12 on comp and 9 on rebound. But im at 7000 foot elevation. Thinner and cooler air will play a small role.

@Enduro262

4 жыл бұрын

JuniorQ thanks dude

After you’re first quick ride, you preferred you’re sons bike, even mentioned maybe swapping for another.. thoughts now?

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

I've got 21 hours on my TE250i now and there are things I love about the TE and there are things I love about the XC-W. The TE transmission lends it'self to technical riding and cornering, the XC-W seems tall on gearing. We both have the same sprocket combo. But in the open sections the XC-W doesn't require as much shifting say giving fast slow open sections. The suspension on the TE has settled in, I've set sag and dialed it in the way I like it. I like the TE's ability to hold through a corner under compression, when the XC-W tends to squat in the corners. But then the XC-W absolutely rolls over everything much much better than the TE. I feel the MX in the TE and the XC-W I only feel smooth over larger obstacles. The power on the XC-W is awake now that we turned the power valve out 2.5 turns, the factory set it for a 5 year old rider I think. The TE comes with a map switch where I can adjust on the fly, the XC-W requires a plug in under the seat. My son spanks me on his XC-W but he's a 23 yo 'A' racer and very talented on any bike. My days of A level racing are over, but I hold my own. We are about to film a side by side comparison vid and document all these findings & opinions. I finally purchased a better camera and editing software to make better vids. Appreciate your view, and I'm happy to share anything we have found or know about these two bikes.

@jasonf7063

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info, look forward to the comparison vid. I’ve only been riding about 2years but come from years of mt bike and seem to be picking it up fairly well. Helps my friends have never taken it easy on me 😆. Started on a wr250r and that lasted about 3 months, after realizing we weren’t riding no dirt roads! About 90% flowy to tight gnarly, rocky Northern Cali single track, with an occasional trip to Nevada for some sand but still not really full open 6gear stuff.. Upgraded to a 2018 250 exc-f. Huge improvement! But still not using the plate much and am looking for more power (a lot of loose big hill climbs) and more lug for the gnarly, single track rocky climbs.. Another big concern is I’m only 5’7 and struggle with reaching ground a lot. So I’m dreaming of smaller, lighter bike as well.. Have been interested in the betas for their smaller size, the 200 is tempting but I worry about power and lug. The xtrainer is real tempting for its small size, aware that I would probably be dumping some $ into suspension.. Biggest concern with beta is they seem less refined than ktm/husky. And I LOVE my ktms super plush suspension for most of the riding I do.. A buddy recently rode a friends 2020 years te300i and couldn’t stop praising it and mentioned how small, low and light/nimble it felt.. So now I’m studying all I can on the te300 and 250.. 🤪

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonf7063 I got into mtb like 5 years ago and amazed how similar they are. Couple pro mtb guys here in Flagstaff just got on dirt bikes and im shocked how quick they are. I elk hunting buddy of mine is 5 foot 7 and races a 2019 TE250i. He used the devol lowering link. He's lead the PNW offroad series last two years (pre vivid). He loves the bike.

Did your stock seat soften up at all over time?

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Im considering replacing the foam.

How many hours do you find your moose’s last for ?

@pvclassic

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on the type of rides. But on avg I change every 20-30 hours.

which do you think is a better machine... xc-w 250 tpi.... or the TE 250i... I was looking at 2021's.... we're trail riding, hill climbing, outside Pittsburgh

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

Man, that's a tough question. The KTM is well rounded for trail. Ther only edge I give the husky is out of corners but it's not as easy to get it over technical stuff like the ktm.

@jpcallender8141

3 жыл бұрын

@@pvclassic thx... i was leaning toward the KTM

Hey man how many miles do you get to a full tank on your tpi? I'm tempted to make the plunge and purchase one

@pvclassic

2 жыл бұрын

I've replaced this bike with a 2022 KTM Erzburg but if I recall it was 45 miles of aggressive trail riding. I get 50-55 on my new 300.

@ollie6512

2 жыл бұрын

@@pvclassic fair play still tpi so fairly similar 👍 I was tempted by the beta 300 RR but I think I may purchase a 2020/2021 husky or KTM tpi!

@pvclassic

2 жыл бұрын

@@ollie6512 I'm starting to ride more Colorado trails and with AZ and CO I can justify the 300. At least that's what I tell my wife. Braaap on buddy.

Does the 250 actually have more hit or do you just feel less of one compared to the 300 since the 300 is more bike leading up to the hit?

@pvclassic

4 ай бұрын

Depending on where you set the power valve. But yes. The 250 has a shorter powerband and will spool quicker. I prefer that pop out of corners and off obstacles. I love the 300, had a xcw300 just after this Husky. But I'm now back on a 250. 2024 xcw250.

@nickconsin2639

4 ай бұрын

@@pvclassic good to know, thanks for the response. I ride a 200rr right now. Love it. Made the mistake of riding my friends new TE. The suspension is much better and the counterbalanced motor is crazy smooth. Never really needed more power on the 200 until I get higher up in the mountains. 250 may be the move

@pvclassic

4 ай бұрын

@nickconsin2639 you won't regret the move. One think to think about, IMHO do consider PDS. Linkage bikes hold tight in corners and I love that but they just aren't as smooth through rough stuff. Ruts. PDS is king in ruts. Tracks low and straight in ruts where a linkage bike hops/chops. Just not as smooth. Good luck with it. Thx checking the vid. My others are older but could be interesting.

@nickconsin2639

4 ай бұрын

@@pvclassic thanks for the info🤙🏼

Suppose it is silly to think KTM would have helped with the fact they sent a motor out with a gasket missing?

@pvclassic

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The dealer did more for us than the manufacturer and they had nothing to do with the mistake. Second motor has 90+ hours and zero issues, and the credit goes to Go AZ in Flagstaff for working so hard to help.