Hunting Göring's Grand Cross - What Happened to Göring's Valuable Medals?

Hermann Göring was the only recipient of the Grand Cross of the Iron Cross. After he surrendered to the US Army in May 1945, he medals and decorations were taken from him and many, including his Grand Cross, disappeared. Worth today around $120,000, can its fate by discovered?
Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fe...
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Main Sources: 'Diamond Pilot/Observer' by Christopher Ailsby (Wehrmacht-Awards.com); 'The Goering Surrender Medals' by W.C. Stump (2002)
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  • @nodarkthings
    @nodarkthings Жыл бұрын

    When you decide to watch just one Mark Felton video before bed and 2 hours later you're still at it at 2am...

  • @groupersti

    @groupersti

    3 күн бұрын

    If you're lucky...Guys got me addicted...LOL

  • @barrygower6733
    @barrygower6733 Жыл бұрын

    Before the War, my mum worked in a South London laundry that took in the washing from the German Legation. One day, when preparing some clothes for the wash, she found a pair of cuff links still on the sleeves of a dress shirt. They were of a swastika design in solid gold. She handed them to her supervisor who returned them to the Legation. A few days later, a thank you note, along with some flowers and a box of chocolates, was received at the laundry. The note had been signed by Ribbentrop who expressed his gratitude for the return of the links that had been a personal gift to him from AH. I often wonder what I might now have possessed, had she not have been such an honest young lady.

  • @pagodebregaeforro2803

    @pagodebregaeforro2803

    Жыл бұрын

    I Wouldn't blame her either.

  • @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr

    @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr

    Жыл бұрын

    You would have grown up perhaps a lesser man had she not have shown you such integrity !:).

  • @djangorheinhardt

    @djangorheinhardt

    Жыл бұрын

    Why do commentators discussing the looting and robbing of German high rank decorations always use the sanitizing term " liberating " It was just plain robbing ,thieving and looting by the Allies .Just remember " the truth will set you free " !But as drunken Winston Churchill said once in a rare moment of sobriety ," The first casualty of war is the truth "

  • @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr

    @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@djangorheinhardt yep, the truth is, the west we’re scared of germanys monumental rise to power before ww1, and had to find reasons to mess with them. The banksters won the war, everyone died.

  • @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr

    @Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@djangorheinhardt yep, the truth is, the west we’re scared of germanys monumental rise to power before ww1, and had to find reasons to mess with them. The banksters won the war, everyone died.

  • @gigachad7153
    @gigachad7153 Жыл бұрын

    As they say- "The British fight for the Queen, the Japanese for the Emperor, the Germans for the Fuhrer and the Americans for souvenirs!"

  • @vincentyeo88

    @vincentyeo88

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, Americans fought for souvenirs. Kelly's Heroes fought for free enterprise, and they liberated a truckload full of gold bullion. 🤣🙃🤣

  • @katalinjuhasz641

    @katalinjuhasz641

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vincentyeo88 ZABRÁLÁS , RABLÁS, MINT MINDEN HÁBORUBAN, CSAK A MEGALÁZÁS A CÉL, KAPITULÁLNI....

  • @olavwilhelm6843

    @olavwilhelm6843

    11 ай бұрын

    god knows how many priced missing artefacts are hanging in private american homes today . I remember the discovery of a Claude Monet painting above a sofa in a texan Trailer park

  • @brenobassocenci6571

    @brenobassocenci6571

    11 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @CultgentlemanJack

    @CultgentlemanJack

    10 ай бұрын

    Go America.. good on them they deserved trophies.. the nazi raped Europe of all it’s treasure. Why not the Americans.. you also forgot the Russians they where prolific Looters. They also earned the right after what Germany did. And it’s war go the trophies and spoils of war to the victors.

  • @VeritasOmniaVincit176
    @VeritasOmniaVincit176 Жыл бұрын

    It’s absolutely ridiculous at this point that KZread still penalizes historic videos using a certain symbol on the thumbnail without blurring it. Edit: apparently, YT changed this rule, because the thumbnail isn’t blurred anymore.

  • @fifthward1983

    @fifthward1983

    Жыл бұрын

    yet they dont have a problem with the hammer and sickle.

  • @lok777

    @lok777

    Жыл бұрын

    Almost looks like a little anus was blurred out in the middle of the swastika......

  • @lemko1968

    @lemko1968

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fifthward1983 a symbol of equal if not greater evil.

  • @robertlaube574

    @robertlaube574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lemko1968 the german symbol is older than ww2 and was stolen, it actually has other meanings. People these days are the biggest () in history.

  • @barrackhussein464

    @barrackhussein464

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lemko1968 Genocide isn't a competition buddy.

  • @HughesEnterprises
    @HughesEnterprises Жыл бұрын

    I visited a private collection once that contained Goehring’s wedding sword, several of his daggers, and medals. Like you mentioned the quality is unmistakable. Creepy is an understatement when they’re not behind glass and you can handle them.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    I can imagine. I was at a gun show several years ago where an exhibitor was selling articles from Hitler's Berghof estate. Nothing really shocking, just various types of china and silverware with Nazi Party eagles souvenired by GI's. I have to admit I was just a little creeped-out by the things. I have no interest in owning anything like that but if other people do it's of no concern to me. Honestly I don't want anything around that might have been handled by the arch-fiend. I once handled an autographed (by you-know-who) copy of "Mein Kampf" and THAT creeped me out! And everyone else around me too! I can tell the story if anyone wants to hear it.

  • @DelGTAGrndrs

    @DelGTAGrndrs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wayneantoniazzi2706 very good that you can appreciate it! Historical objects to me hold a lot of power in them. I have an original flag of every major country to fight in WW2. The German one isn’t hung up on a proud display or anything like that, but when I do take a look at it, it still gives me chills to this day.

  • @wiedzmin8204

    @wiedzmin8204

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DelGTAGrndrs Surely you the soviet one is not hanged up?

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DelGTAGrndrs I understand. I've got a Nazi wall banner someone gave me 50 years ago. It's part of my own flag collection (American and foreign, real and replica) but I keep it folded up in a container and never display it. It doesn't give me chills though, it's just there. I'll add I can't see the point of destroying history artifacts, no matter what they are. What good does that do? If someone wants to do something of meaning find a small part of the world around you that needs improving and get to it, it'll do a lot more good than destroying an artifact of a regime that was destroyed itself decades ago.

  • @HughesEnterprises

    @HughesEnterprises

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wayneantoniazzi2706 This collector was somewhat eccentric. His whole house was full of historical artifacts. Daggers laying on the side tables, flintlock pistols in the kitchen, authentic medieval swords propped up in the corners. Over 200 rifles in racks on display. Basement had the nazi section, a dozen K98 sniper rifles, MG42, various pistols some engraved, etc. But he mostly collected US civil war stuff. Had an example of every rifle and pistol used in the war, a dozen different complete officers uniforms on mannequins, stuff that rivals what’s on display at the Smithsonian. All in a nondescript suburban house and his neighbors had no idea. I was there working buying some guns he was selling, ended up buying a few dozen pieces from him.

  • @Chuckles..
    @Chuckles.. Жыл бұрын

    Mark Felton confirms what I decided about ww2 some time ago, the amount of interesting stories of the era are non-ending, and Mark tells these stories beautifully.

  • @largol33t1

    @largol33t1

    Жыл бұрын

    He is a fantastic story teller. I could listen to this guy talk about how books are made and it would still sound a bit interesting!

  • @jonossell121

    @jonossell121

    7 ай бұрын

    The second greatest story ever told and we don't know half of it

  • @MikehMike01

    @MikehMike01

    4 ай бұрын

    WW2 was super cool Today, barf

  • @gregoryschmidt1233
    @gregoryschmidt1233 Жыл бұрын

    When he first surrendered and was given respect, food and cigars, I'll bet he was thinking, "I might come out of this okay after all..."

  • @katalinjuhasz641

    @katalinjuhasz641

    Жыл бұрын

    BIZTOS VOLT BENNE, NEM VOLT BÜNÖS..

  • @muskokamike127

    @muskokamike127

    3 ай бұрын

    The thing that I never understood is: why were the military leaders punished? If they say ordered the execution of captured civilians and soldiers, yes, that's a war crime but the act of waging war itself isn't a crime, otherwise every country on earth would be guilty of this. (especially the US and the UK). UK -> Germany "we're trying you for the crime of waging war and invading x countries and trying to invade the UK" Germany: "yeah, hello pot? this is the kettle calling, you're black" How many countries did the UK invade?

  • @Chivaltic
    @Chivaltic Жыл бұрын

    Finland also decorated Göring with some interesting piece's; He first received Grand Cross of the Order of the White Rose in 1935, Göring also got married in 1935 and you can see him wearing the sash and star on he's wedding picture. He's Grand Cross of the White Rose was upgraded to a Collar in 1941 and he received Grand Cross of the Order of the Cross of Liberty with Swords in 1942. You can see breast badges of both decoration at 7:54 picture (top left and right corners). Last one he received is a one of a kind piece; Finnish Air Force Pilot Badge in Diamonds, only one ever made. Sadly the badge was lost during the war, I have only seen a picture and a drawing of it, but the award book survived and was auctioned in Stuttgart by Medalhouse on 29 March 2008.

  • @Roller_Ghoster
    @Roller_Ghoster Жыл бұрын

    Never a dull moment when you get a video on WW2 on a Friday. Thats heaven for me.

  • @DavidRodriguez-go9es
    @DavidRodriguez-go9es Жыл бұрын

    Out of an entire sea of interesting stories, this one stands out for me. I can only imagine all the back room deals, theft attempts, and the stories tied to these metals - before and after they were handed out! Bravo! You have access to history that no one else will touch. The level of detail during your research, is still unsurpassed! 😊

  • @xxvvkx9312

    @xxvvkx9312

    Жыл бұрын

    "Attempts" ?? They WERE all stolen (by the americans)

  • @DavidRodriguez-go9es

    @DavidRodriguez-go9es

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xxvvkx9312 And apparently the British! 😆

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    There was one medal Goering angled for, the Knight's Cross of the War Merit Cross, awarded for distinguished non-combat achievement. However Goering tried to get it late in the war and Hitler had had enough of Goering's foul-ups, so he turned him down cold.

  • @blueslime1703

    @blueslime1703

    5 ай бұрын

    Medals*

  • @TheLeviteces
    @TheLeviteces Жыл бұрын

    There are so many history channels on KZread lately, however none come close to the levels of engagement I feel when watching one of your videos dr felton. Thank you for this,

  • @claytonbenignus4688
    @claytonbenignus4688 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with the theory that Goering had a copy of each medal for each of his uniforms, and therefore many copies must exist.

  • @historyarmyproductions
    @historyarmyproductions Жыл бұрын

    I've wondered this myself. Thank you for bringing light to it, and trying to answer the question. Well done as always, Dr. Felton. :)

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too.

  • @Stephen-lt1tp

    @Stephen-lt1tp

    Жыл бұрын

    Would it be fair to say: Victoria cross= the medal of honor. George cross= distinguished service cross, The DSO = the Silver star, the MC =the bronze star, I was always upset Britain never had a version of the wound medal or infantry badge.

  • @heresjohnny1219

    @heresjohnny1219

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Stephen-lt1tp George cross is the same as the Victoria cross with the only exception being that the George cross is for gallantry not in the face of the enemy whereas the Victoria cross is for gallantry in the face of the enemy , the distinguished service cross (US) is for gallantry in the face of the enemy but doesn’t warrant the medal of honour

  • @robertantony2441

    @robertantony2441

    Жыл бұрын

    See how to recording

  • @robertantony2441

    @robertantony2441

    Жыл бұрын

    Those were the day$&#

  • @ericscottstevens
    @ericscottstevens Жыл бұрын

    Goering did make a bold stand at the Volga. A request was put in to turn all Luftwaffe ground personnel and air gunnery crews into Infantry to stem the Soviet advance in the Caucus withdrawal. Luftwaffe Infantry was also sought to go in and help in the fight for Stalingrad. Goering flatly refused the idea, it would have decimated Luftflotte 4 entire aviation specialists and repair crews. This rejection probably saved my Grandfathers life while with Stab/Erg.Gruppe St.G.77 in Nikolayev.

  • @mathewdasilva4421

    @mathewdasilva4421

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stomper5432 a nazi ?

  • @rbilleaud

    @rbilleaud

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely would have been a futile gesture, and counterproductive.

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq

    @MrOuija-rr8kq

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s so bold of Goering to call the shots from his diamond encrusted throne and then commit suicide when he had to face the music.

  • @nedrain9044

    @nedrain9044

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrOuija-rr8kq He faced the music, and took his life only just before execution so as to deny his captors the satisfaction. His death was as honorable as possible under the circumstances.

  • @rbilleaud

    @rbilleaud

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nedrain9044 no honor in taking your own life. Cowards way out. Far better to stand tall in the gallows and take the punishment you deserve. I have more respect for those men.

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland Жыл бұрын

    When I was looking into Iron Crosses at collectors' websites, I read somewhere that it was common practice for medal recipients to have more duplicates made so they could wear them on different uniforms without having to change the medals all the time. Also, the medals the wore on their combat uniform were not the original ones because of course they could be easily damaged, not just during a battle but by a door slamming into them or some other unfortunate collissions with walls etc. The original medal that they received were safely kept at home and probably only worn during very special occasions. Or they had duplicates for their dress uniform also because now I'm thinking more and more that the original medals must have been so very precious to the recipients and their families (in case the recipient was killed in action, for instance). Anyway, my conclusion is that German military medals during World War II were more than just medals, they were literally part of the uniform, just like ordinary buttons were.

  • @ericoberlies7537

    @ericoberlies7537

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed, some of Nazi Germany’s higher awards seemed to take the form of badges, many with subdued finishes, more suitable for wear on battle dress uniforms.

  • @ericoberlies7537

    @ericoberlies7537

    Жыл бұрын

    Even as an Enlisted/NCO in the 1980s and early 1990s, we all had extra ribbons and duplicate medals.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true. In the German Army medals from the Iron Cross First Class and up became a permanent part of the uniform. Many holders of the Knight's Cross actually wore a Second Class Iron Cross on a ribbon at the neck to save wear and tear on the real one. In the field no-one cared.

  • @oWallis

    @oWallis

    Жыл бұрын

    We still do that today with the ribbon racks we wear on dress uniforms. Its alot easier to get a few sets of them made and just keep them on one thing.

  • @getredytagetredy

    @getredytagetredy

    Жыл бұрын

    My Zionist friends concur

  • @PETERNESS
    @PETERNESS Жыл бұрын

    As a young Dutch boy growing up in the North of The Netherlands i remember some of my elders proudly wearing shiny medals once or maybe twice a year ,i asked my father why Opa never wears hes medals as he was in the war and the same answer was always repeated back ,Opa wore a brown shirt and the medals he has are dirty ,i know now what my father meant ,my wifes Grandfather who is English and a true hero stormed a beach head in France called Sword, kept all hes medals and war stories to himself and it wasnt till a few years back after he passed away at 98 that it became clear what a great man he was ,polar opposites to my own opa ,thankyou for all you do Mr Felton this really is one of my favourite youtube channels

  • @jurgenteuer4786

    @jurgenteuer4786

    Жыл бұрын

    Your Opa was on the right side. Thanks to the beach storming heros Europa is destroyed

  • @PETERNESS

    @PETERNESS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jurgenteuer4786 You should thank the beach storming heroes everyday ,as they have given you the freedom for you to share your opinion,thankyou for your input have a nice day

  • @cocainecarl7814
    @cocainecarl7814 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all of the amazing content you put out, Dr. Felton!

  • @MichaelKingsfordGray

    @MichaelKingsfordGray

    Жыл бұрын

    Coward.

  • @davidbarr9343
    @davidbarr9343 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating.War medals are a very interesting subject, especially when you can research the history behind the individual awards. Thank you again, Dr. Felton.👏

  • @bengardiner3867
    @bengardiner3867 Жыл бұрын

    As an Enlisted Soldier in the U.S. Army in the 1980s, we used to have monthly Dress uniform inspections. Handling the cloth ribbons would get them soiled and we would purchase multiple ribbons each year either to look "perfect" or to keep the leadership off our buts. So hearing about multiple/ duplicate awards is not surprising when this individual spent so much time wearing his dress uniform. How he attained them in the first place is always irksome

  • @ericoberlies7537

    @ericoberlies7537

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I used to have ribbons for my jackets, others for my short and long sleeve shirts (an AR 670-1 change while I was in). I still have my duplicate medals and miniatures, along with my Dad’s from the Pacific, boxed away in my garage.

  • @katalinjuhasz641

    @katalinjuhasz641

    Жыл бұрын

    nem ugy mint te most...

  • @RootsRockRebel
    @RootsRockRebel Жыл бұрын

    It's the level of detail that Dr. Felton brings to his videos that makes him the best historian on KZread.

  • @coleman4840
    @coleman4840 Жыл бұрын

    Yet another high-quality masterpiece. Well done Dr. Felton!

  • @molanlabexm15
    @molanlabexm15 Жыл бұрын

    Okay, lets see how much support this gets. Video Idea: Where are Skorzeny's Gran Sasso Raid Watches?

  • @XYZ-bi9eb
    @XYZ-bi9eb Жыл бұрын

    Nobody else can make such thoroughly researched WW2 documentaries like Dr. Felton. Thank you, sir!

  • @qgde3rty8uiojh90
    @qgde3rty8uiojh90 Жыл бұрын

    It's almost beyond words what you do, Felton. These videos' content remains as good as ever and the production quality is also a reliable constant. AND IT'S ALL FOR EFFING FREE !!! 👍😋👏😎👊🥳

  • @5ynth3ticNZ

    @5ynth3ticNZ

    Жыл бұрын

    Which is why I hope he has got 95k free coffee vouchers in his inbox

  • @Markos581973

    @Markos581973

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm beyond words regarding your oral technique.

  • @jogzyg2036
    @jogzyg2036 Жыл бұрын

    WW2 is the guest round on next week's pub quiz so I will be binge watching your channel over the coming days.

  • @jamie7026
    @jamie7026 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video, the medal information on the iron cross is spot on as is the personal history of Goring, but the medals are reproductions , the player at 1.44 mins is a cheap 1970s copy, the knights coss is another well known copy, the dipping eye type, and oversize loop, shown at 1.57 are classic for this copy. On the awards, the grand cross of the iron cross , there are more than one made. Several were also made for museum display. Being made by Juncker, zimmermann and from Rudolf Souval for museum display. On the pilots badge with diamonds, goring gave these out to high ranking foreign officers also. His though is in the hand of a well known uk collector and is on the front cover of his book. Also some of his items were used in the film battle of Britain, and there is a video on his shoulder emblems being a 1 minute short . A great video though, really enjoyed it, thank you.

  • @2000ViperGTSsubscribe
    @2000ViperGTSsubscribe Жыл бұрын

    I was with Christine Wittmann when I was on active duty in 1989 to 1992. Her dad is Thomas Wittman and all I can say is things I saw at one one visit to her dad's home were insane. It was a vault, if it were anywhere it would be in his hands. Enough said, but not saying anything he does or does not have it, but MY LORD my eyes are still i shock. He was nice to me, but reserved and I suspect as the family in general thought I was not good enough for his daughter as an enlisted military man. Mr. Felton I adore your historical videos and you are an asset to the world.

  • @donl1846
    @donl1846 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Professor Felton, for this historical account of what happen to Goring's medals, fascinating story !!

  • @davidpeters7947
    @davidpeters7947 Жыл бұрын

    Mark, I recall visiting basil harr”s Burn out home back in the 70s it was well known after the fact that he had all these German collectibles including German automobiles which were still on the property in a burnt out condition. I had friends that had found burnt and melted items from the property it’s really hard to say how much stuff was carried off from the burned ruins

  • @Dionaea_floridensis
    @Dionaea_floridensis Жыл бұрын

    Love you Dr. Felton! I made a new friend at the gym because we learned that we both listen to your videos when we work out hahahaha

  • @irish3335
    @irish3335 Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing story! I wish I was around when these items were still floating around, just to hear the stories from the source who “requisitioned” them!

  • @kman-mi7su
    @kman-mi7su Жыл бұрын

    I am glad that stuff still exists and wasn't destroyed as ordered. Like it or not, it's first and foremost HISTORY and needs to be preserved.

  • @anthonyconway64
    @anthonyconway64 Жыл бұрын

    A another great historic video, Thank You Mark Felton for your willingness to bring out videos every week and I like it so much so keep on doing it.

  • @djphlange
    @djphlange Жыл бұрын

    definitely liking these medal videos! always fascinated with all the different types, shapes, colors , meanings etc

  • @JM-ke1xm
    @JM-ke1xm Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic production. Dr Felton’s work is of unsurpassed quality and his educational reach is simply unmeasurable.

  • @glenngosline3303
    @glenngosline3303 Жыл бұрын

    No one tells military stories better than Mark. Thank you.

  • @brianb2837
    @brianb2837 Жыл бұрын

    You learn an incredible amount about history thanks to Dr. Felton. Thanks so much Mark and have a great day!

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 Жыл бұрын

    A episode or series about Görings personal weapon collection and the use of them in the field on some of the best game hunting Europe has ever seen would be a excellent one as those pieces is some of the best quality and workmanship craft also.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    It'd be interesting to see where his extensive gun collection went to. The research on that would be exhausting so I wouldn't blame anyone for not even trying. If they went to the Berchtesgaden area with the rest of the Carinhall collections it wouldn't surprise me if some were souvenired by GIs, but unless they're marked with Goering's name just a simple "My grandfather got it after the war and said it was Goerings!" wouldn't cut it.

  • @allangibson2408

    @allangibson2408

    Жыл бұрын

    Goering was also responsible for specification of the Luftwaffe survival rifles - Drilling’s with walnut stocks and fine blued barrels in cased sets in each bomber aircraft… Seriously nice guns.

  • @bobbymay8618
    @bobbymay8618 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for detailing in depth every step of his medals.. this sort of thing makes my heart race tbh. i always look forward to your videos. and me and my friends use your opening tune often anytime we start talking about history !

  • @lorrycamill6502
    @lorrycamill6502 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🙏 to Mark Felton for sharing this wonderful history

  • @joeviking61
    @joeviking61 Жыл бұрын

    One cannot help but to admire Goring. He was larger than life and a true Warrior

  • @viike1736

    @viike1736

    Жыл бұрын

    u r sick

  • @viike1736

    @viike1736

    Жыл бұрын

    u r sick

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 Жыл бұрын

    Great history Dr. Felton! You're a master storyteller! (Which is what a history teacher SHOULD be!)

  • @williamcooper2415
    @williamcooper2415 Жыл бұрын

    It's truly surprising how many historical artifacts was either destroyed or stolen back in their days.

  • @jasdog71

    @jasdog71

    Жыл бұрын

    Back then they were not yet historical and many carried bad memories for many people. After 6 years of war I can see why people would not want anything to do with it kept for the future.

  • @CH-zp2rh

    @CH-zp2rh

    Жыл бұрын

    They were not destroyed, they were stolen

  • @vincentyeo88

    @vincentyeo88

    Жыл бұрын

    They were liberated or picked up by souvenir collectors. 🙃🤣

  • @katalinjuhasz641

    @katalinjuhasz641

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CH-zp2rh MINDENT ELLOPTAK, FELBECSÜLHETETLEN TÖRTÉNELMI ÉS PRIVÁT ÉRTÉKEKET a nagy szövetségesek

  • @Lerxstification

    @Lerxstification

    6 ай бұрын

    No cameras everywhere back then, way easier to make small items disappear!

  • @josephbingham1255
    @josephbingham1255 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I myself saw some interesting items an Airborne trooper had brought back from the Obersalzberg. Remnants of a once mighty empire that still turn up from time to time.

  • @tonyrobb8815
    @tonyrobb8815 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting!...I knew a German Officer (Rank and Service is confidential) he lived close to me,he was elderly and not well,I offered to do his shopping ,which I did for a few years,before he passed on...then I received a phone call from his Solicitor,asking if I was the person who helped him over his final years,I said yes ,his Solicitor made an appointment with me as the old gentleman had left me a bag of medals...I understand he had been a Commanding Officer ,and his group had made a sort of Tontine that whoever,was the last to survive would have all the "Group" Medals,he was the last survivor...my bag contained 24 Iron Crosses (1st and 2nd Class)...I have now put them in a box,and when I pass on, will be donated to the local War Museum...(One point >>rumour had it he was in the German Navy...I now know he was not in the Navy)

  • @christopherfritz3840

    @christopherfritz3840

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't donate them. Some modern Bolshevik burrocrat will get hold of them and destroy them. Sell them to a collector ☠

  • @David-yo5ws

    @David-yo5ws

    Жыл бұрын

    You must have made a great impression obviously. Dedication in helping someone out who is not a part of your family, is sometimes rewarded in surprising ways. I am glad you are going to be a caretaker of those medals. And we hope that before you pass, that you can make some notes to pass on to the museum.

  • @MrTruckerf

    @MrTruckerf

    Жыл бұрын

    Please give them to the museum on loan now, along with all that you know of the man and the medals various owners. It is an important part of history. They may have been awarded medals for despicable things, but time has a way of healing all wounds, no matter how deep at the time they were committed. If your house would burn or be robbed, these artifacts would be lost. Others such as myself are interested in seeing things from this point in history. The people who were alive when the war was being waged will all be gone soon, within 20 years. Most soldiers are gone already.

  • @grayparatrooper

    @grayparatrooper

    Жыл бұрын

    Put them on display not just in a box we would like to see them. I would also put who they came from if you ahve his name it doesnt need to be secret it doesnt matter it also ads provenance to where they came from. Also dont donate them to a museum but LOAN it as they easily lose and have stuff stolen all the time museums also have giant stores of items that never see the light of day.

  • @jimc.goodfellas226
    @jimc.goodfellas226 Жыл бұрын

    Goering is a fascinating figure from history...always interesting to learn new things from the good doctor

  • @Looter217
    @Looter217 Жыл бұрын

    Man, this channel is perfect to listen to while on the long drive to work. Keep up the good work, Dr Felton!

  • @jensenwilliam5434
    @jensenwilliam5434 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making videos of the past and saving history! Again thank you!!!

  • @animalc7
    @animalc7 Жыл бұрын

    Can't thank you enough for your hard work. best channel on the Tube!

  • @SteveMikre44
    @SteveMikre44 Жыл бұрын

    Mark always seems come up with interesting and thought provoking historical content...

  • @tonydobosiewicz
    @tonydobosiewicz Жыл бұрын

    Mr.Felton. This is by far your best video. Absalutly amazing.

  • @seanheaney8303
    @seanheaney8303 Жыл бұрын

    I didn't think you would know this story so well. The story of the Majors son having the medals and then there untimely demise is a fairly unknown story outside of the 3rd Reich medal collecting circle. As always you never cease to amaze me Dr Felton! I've know this story for over 15 and never seen it publicly discussed. Besides in a few forums somewhat buried. Well done!

  • @worstenbroodje2763
    @worstenbroodje2763 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks once again for the great video Mark! Have a good weekend.

  • @johnbockelie3899

    @johnbockelie3899

    Жыл бұрын

    " Goering , we want you to remove all of your medals....that's an order." " Ok, ....i believe this will take about an hour to do however."

  • @snakerog
    @snakerog Жыл бұрын

    The most fascinating thing about Goring to me was the fact he was so sure of himself and felt he was so important that he thought right up until his execution order was read that he was going to be treated like royalty.

  • @vk2ig

    @vk2ig

    Жыл бұрын

    A real narcissist. Not surprising.

  • @pagodebregaeforro2803

    @pagodebregaeforro2803

    Жыл бұрын

    He should have been put to clean prisons toilets in underwear.

  • @lucasgroves137

    @lucasgroves137

    Жыл бұрын

    No, it's clear that he realised he'd vastly miscalculated his importance much earlier than that. There's no mistaking the look on his face the day he was required to surrender his gun and medals.

  • @jensnitsche4994

    @jensnitsche4994

    Жыл бұрын

    Göring war als einem der wenigen Naziführer schon sehr früh bewusst, dass die Politik Hitlers in den Abgrund führen würde. Aber er war zu schwach, um sich der Magie des " Führers" zu entziehen...

  • @hinaynihorvath3926

    @hinaynihorvath3926

    Жыл бұрын

    he is long gone to hell now

  • @invictus3598
    @invictus3598 Жыл бұрын

    This is a terrific presentation regarding Goring's medals and awards. Thank you!

  • @matthoward8546
    @matthoward8546 Жыл бұрын

    Always fantastic. The best produced thing I have found on KZread.

  • @gabriellen.2886
    @gabriellen.2886 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you once again, Prof. Felton. A fascinating story, full of human slyness, mendacity, and greed. If those medals could speak - oh, the stories they would tell. 🤨

  • @Bigsky1991
    @Bigsky1991 Жыл бұрын

    I shared a cab from the Airport to the Max show with the US Army Officer that was implicated in having given Göring the Cyanide capsule that he used to commit suicide. Rumors about many of Görings medals abound in the collector scene and who ended up with them. I do know that his jewel encrusted Reichsjägermeister dagger was found in a ditch near Görings house that was destroyed in an 8th AAF raid on his Obersalzberg home. It's believed the bulk of his various uniforms and daggers were in that house.

  • @1JamesMayToGoPlease

    @1JamesMayToGoPlease

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought Carinhall was the motherlode?

  • @Father.of.Red.China15

    @Father.of.Red.China15

    Жыл бұрын

    we defeated the wrong enemy - general george s. patton

  • @xxvvkx9312

    @xxvvkx9312

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Father.of.Red.China15 : Thankyou for posting that. lt always makes me feel a little less alone when l see Someone else out there Knows The Truth

  • @Father.of.Red.China15

    @Father.of.Red.China15

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xxvvkx9312 in germany you go straight to prison if you even dare to talk about it lmfao 😂 there are a lot of old germans who will tell you a completly different story, but its too late history already has been written

  • @xxvvkx9312

    @xxvvkx9312

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Father.of.Red.China15: Yes. Truth is against the law & fiction is "history"

  • @johnschofield9496
    @johnschofield9496 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mark. As always, a deep and fascinating moment in history.

  • @motorTranz
    @motorTranz Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating story! Thank you Dr. Felton!

  • @mishecketengani7418
    @mishecketengani7418 Жыл бұрын

    Now an addict of the channel!!

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 Жыл бұрын

    Many medals were indeed ' liberated'. Someone may be sitting in a small fortune of surviving 'lost' ones, perhaps unaware of their value.

  • @aka99

    @aka99

    Жыл бұрын

    Propaply

  • @Randy-ew1ku

    @Randy-ew1ku

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps

  • @tim7052

    @tim7052

    Жыл бұрын

    About 30yrs ago I read of a Victoria Cross being located and returned to the recipients family for next to nothing. A relative of the VC winner tracked the medal's journey to the then present owner living in the US - a young man in his late teens. This guy confirmed that he did have what he described as "an Iron Coss" with some other medals. Excited, the researcher asked what would he like as a swap for the medals. The young guy asked for a stereo system!! One was sent immediately, and the VC group duly arrived by courier. I read that the researcher who sealed this amazing deal, and holds the VC group, was Ian Goodenough, a Councillor for Wanneroo City Council. 👍

  • @pagodebregaeforro2803

    @pagodebregaeforro2803

    Жыл бұрын

    Once I commented that I would have stolen the decorations of those nazis (Rudel's video, in this case a hard nazi till death) as spoils of war for risking MY life if I was a GI back then and some ball lickers immediately sided with the "poor" uniformed guy, their hero, to call me things.. lol what a bunch of little fans, men-praiser are pathetic.

  • @davemartino5997

    @davemartino5997

    Жыл бұрын

    Doubtful especially with internet these days

  • @marcushume2240
    @marcushume2240 Жыл бұрын

    Mr Felton. I have to say that you have a silver tongue when you speak of war history. Always interesting. Thank you for your hard work and dedication.

  • @davida.logansr1692

    @davida.logansr1692

    Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Felton!

  • @terrioestreich4007
    @terrioestreich4007 Жыл бұрын

    As always, wonderful episode!

  • @thEannoyingE
    @thEannoyingE Жыл бұрын

    Always wanted you to do more videos on Göring, he has such strange obsessions, I see many more videos in the future, thanks.

  • @War_Dog_Films
    @War_Dog_Films Жыл бұрын

    Another amazing video! You are on a roll Dr. Felton, keep it up! 👍

  • @crafter170
    @crafter170 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant story. Well done.

  • @royboy9361
    @royboy9361 Жыл бұрын

    WW2, and the American Civil War, are my absolute favorite subjects, and this channel is a favorite as well.

  • @BoxiesAU
    @BoxiesAU Жыл бұрын

    There must be some crazy private collections around the world. Some with rich collectors, some with sons and grandsons of the guys who were actually there. Just nuts

  • @spacefinn
    @spacefinn Жыл бұрын

    Mark Felton is the antidote to Discovery Channel Reality Trash. I enjoy every single video!

  • @The105ODST
    @The105ODST Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark for the upload.

  • @fredallen217
    @fredallen2177 ай бұрын

    Thank you. Please give us more !!!!!

  • @PurpleCat9794
    @PurpleCat9794 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video. It was posted 36 minutes ago, and 7k views. Insane!

  • @TheMormonPower
    @TheMormonPower Жыл бұрын

    If anyone's interested in German WW2 " Collectables " there's a KZread site Wittman Antique Collectables. He is one of the largest collectors and dealers in particular of Stunning " Era " SS Daggers " he has over a hundred videos of rare medals and related materials. Disclosure, he in no way endorses or promotes anything political,past or present. Just a fine old man. Besides his collection, he has videos of some of the most valuable private collections in existence. It's a truly fascinating channel if you have any interest in viewing collectables of this nature. Don't go to the channel to " hate " go for historical artifact appreciation.

  • @amham48
    @amham48 Жыл бұрын

    As per usual, deep and exhaustive detail on the subject yet succinct to fit the KZread video format.

  • @fuyu5979
    @fuyu5979 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic story n intrigue. Dig ur well researched n written story with the archival films n pictures to accompany this vid. Always fascinating ur uploads. Kudos.

  • @Mashkoormohsin
    @Mashkoormohsin Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another superb video. MARK. LOVE from Pakistan

  • @edgaraquino2324
    @edgaraquino2324 Жыл бұрын

    A most interesting video - Goering was a interesting character - brave, jovial, ruthless & sinister all in one package...most unfortunate that these artifacts could not be more fully authenticated & preserved...Is there any information concerning Heidrich's medals & decorations?

  • @oceanichimself4603

    @oceanichimself4603

    Жыл бұрын

    Heydrich was buried with his medals - but his grave was also robbed after the war. No collector can claim in public to have his medals as a result, so we will never know who owns them.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oceanichimself4603 Really? That's interesting. I know the monument over his grave was demolished by the Soviets and his grave is unmarked to this day. Maybe the Russians stole the medals? Not that it matters.

  • @wolfmauler

    @wolfmauler

    Жыл бұрын

    He wasn't buried with them, or at least not the originals. His widow Lena Heydrich retained them, along with his death mask and the uniform he wore during the assassination attempt, among other artifacts owned by him. She kept a virtual shrine to his memory in her house where she died on the island of Feymarn. The German researcher Frank Brandenburg was probably the last person to interview her in the mid 1980's, before her death and was these things by the widow. She even presented Frank with one of the ceramic candle holders, used by the SS during their Yule/Solstice celebrations, that Reinhardt had given to her. But what became of Heydrich's decorations after Lena's passing would best be answered by her children, though she noted in her final interview, that they had distanced themselves from her Nazi past completely.

  • @klausschreyer7062

    @klausschreyer7062

    Жыл бұрын

    Yah you'll never find those types in USA Government

  • @markl4673

    @markl4673

    Жыл бұрын

    And what would heidrich be awarded / decorated for?

  • @HTN3
    @HTN3 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for connecting the evasive dots of history in yet another compelling video, Mark!

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating……the detail of your story is amazing.

  • @danschneider9921
    @danschneider9921 Жыл бұрын

    I am lucky enough to own a WW2 Knights Cross of the Iron Cross. My grandfather was a member of the MP Platoon of the 36th ID, he was of Silesian German decent and spoke German so was often called upon to interrogate "higher end" prisoners when captured by the division before they were passed on to higher authorites. Unfortunately he didn't record or recall whom it came from- but it came from a Heer Oberst that was captured in Apr '45 and my grandfather "took with some prejudice" the cross and a riding crop carried by the officer. It was passed on to me when he passed away about 15 years ago.

  • @barrykevin7658

    @barrykevin7658

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, A fascinating story.

  • @Monarchist94

    @Monarchist94

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah you’re Grandpa was a thief.

  • @MrTruckerf

    @MrTruckerf

    Жыл бұрын

    It would be nice if you could trace it to the original recipient. Too bad there isn't a number, date or name inscribed on it. It would increase the value quite a lot.

  • @t-fuelernienotoriousmisfit7449
    @t-fuelernienotoriousmisfit7449 Жыл бұрын

    I commend you for this fabulous, unique and intriguing investigation 👍🙋‍♂️🚀

  • @Go4Corvette
    @Go4Corvette Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video, Mark

  • @DelGTAGrndrs
    @DelGTAGrndrs Жыл бұрын

    Mark, you’re a great listen on extremely long treks for work. Your content is just like a podcast!

  • @maubunky1
    @maubunky1 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone else remember seeing a nice collection of Goring memorabilia (uniforms, medals and more) in Phoenix, Arizona in the late 90s, early 2000's? It was displayed behind glass at a small air museum I believe that was Falcon Field, where there was a nice collection of WW2 fighter aircraft. Parts of that collection moved on to somewhere else soon after I saw it.

  • @eleanorkett1129
    @eleanorkett1129 Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent presentation.

  • @jaredevildog6343
    @jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video Dr. Felton. Thank you!

  • @mihaisirbu1
    @mihaisirbu1 Жыл бұрын

    I was actually thinking about this medal today... Nice timing Dr!

  • @BobJones-dq9mx
    @BobJones-dq9mx Жыл бұрын

    What ever happened to Hans Rudell´s Medals? The only serviceman to received The Gold Iron Cross?

  • @SkinnerBeeMan

    @SkinnerBeeMan

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I wonder as well

  • @jimshoe402

    @jimshoe402

    Жыл бұрын

    Eric Brown the family Sold Them.Should've been buried with them their HIS !!!

  • @jonathancarlson6127

    @jonathancarlson6127

    Жыл бұрын

    His first wife sold them behind his back. Including the Golden Oak Leaves w/diamonds- but not the actual cross of the Knight’s Cross itself. There were a dozen golden oak leaves with diamonds produced, however. And yes, he did divorce her because of that.

  • @SkinnerBeeMan

    @SkinnerBeeMan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonathancarlson6127 reference? Source? This is very interesting. It still make me wonder where they are. He had some medals and his flight logs on his person at capture as per his memoir that sits 4 feet away from me at my desk on a shelf. His flight logs would make for interesting reading

  • @jonathancarlson6127

    @jonathancarlson6127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SkinnerBeeMan Because I’m the one she sold them to! Lol, j/k. It’s an old board post from ‘05. (I know, dubious) But, it’s the only thing I can find. The dozen being produced comes up quite a bit.

  • @howardkingston7901
    @howardkingston7901 Жыл бұрын

    The American officer who 'liberated' Goering's medals then lied about it should retrospectively have his service record amended 'Dishonorable Discharge' and this sent to his current family!

  • @TP-kr5dp

    @TP-kr5dp

    Жыл бұрын

    Why??? So he liberated some fabulous treasures from a war criminal. All soldiers are incurable souvenir hounds (myself included). Should the Major have pilfered the medals? Probably not. But he shouldn't be tarred and feathered for it.

  • @j0nnyism

    @j0nnyism

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow plenty of servicemen did the same thing at the end of WW2. You’d have to dishonourably discharge a lot of men

  • @vincentyeo88

    @vincentyeo88

    Жыл бұрын

    He was a treasure hunter who brought in prized assets into the country and thereafter enhanced the country's GDP and economy. 💰🤣

  • @BIGDADDYCANKOO
    @BIGDADDYCANKOO Жыл бұрын

    Imagine how puny little himmler felt when Gorring walked in the room flashing all his legitimate military medals 😂😂

  • @fordhipo1493
    @fordhipo1493 Жыл бұрын

    Check out the museum on Ft Benning. In '87, they had a baton and several other items reported to belonging to Goering.

  • @mrnygren2
    @mrnygren2 Жыл бұрын

    I believe Goring was playing on the oldschool ethics between pilots that said pilots should treat each other with respect. He gambled on being able to charm the Americans and did succeed in charming the lower ranked generals but not the people at the top. He was a WW1 hero pilot as stated in the video. That might be impressive in the eyes of military servicemen.

  • @xminusone1

    @xminusone1

    Жыл бұрын

    Being an air force veteran from ww1 alone is impressive. Let alone an ace.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706

    @wayneantoniazzi2706

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a saying in the military: "When in doubt, The Book prevails!" When Goering was captured and with no directives from higher authority the generals on the spot followed "The Book" and treated Goering with the courtesy they'd extend to any captured general, especially one with the equivalent rank of an American five-star general. Needless to say the directives of what to do with Goering came down pretty quickly!

  • @Chiller01
    @Chiller01 Жыл бұрын

    This is and example of the semi sleazy side of collectors. These medals are valuable because of scarcity and their association with men responsible for despicable events. The inadvertent destruction of many of the medals in a house fire with no one profiting further is poetic justice.

  • @ProjectInfinity1

    @ProjectInfinity1

    Жыл бұрын

    How do you mean? I’ve been to the show of shows in Louisville. I have a Iron cross 2nd class that is in it’s original (but very tattered paper). I also had a cased Iron cross 1st class had sent and sold in Louisville in 2020. How is that sleazy?

  • @trossk

    @trossk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ProjectInfinity1 I think what he means are those collectors that get any and everything they can and hide it away so nobody can see/use it. Same type that will buy a Ferrari, drive it 5 miles a year and just let it sit in a garage .

  • @garywagner2466

    @garywagner2466

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm. Surely a collector who paid for the collection is free to do whatever he or she likes with it. While it would be one option to make provisions in a will for inheritance or donation, a fire destroying the collection is clearly beyond the collector’s control. Uncountable valuables were destroyed during the war, never to be seen or enjoyed again. That is the nature of war. To the victor go the spoils.

  • @danielnewman134
    @danielnewman134 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting historical accounting of the medals and their final destinations. Great job.

  • @douglasruss2889
    @douglasruss2889 Жыл бұрын

    Always informative !

  • @TheIndustrialRetrospective
    @TheIndustrialRetrospective Жыл бұрын

    Dr Felton, can you make a video about Carinhall? (Keep the Goring videos coming please!)

  • @josephus4185
    @josephus4185 Жыл бұрын

    I went to an antique store in Missouri not long ago, they had a regiment cuff title of Goring

  • @tomhenry897

    @tomhenry897

    Жыл бұрын

    He had a division named after him so all that were in it wore one

  • @vincentyeo88

    @vincentyeo88

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tomhenry897 So there were at least 10,000 such pieces issued.

  • @IrishManJT
    @IrishManJT Жыл бұрын

    Mark, you deserve a medal for you work.

  • @MrTruckerf

    @MrTruckerf

    Жыл бұрын

    A Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Diamonds, tinsel, acorns and bananas!

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor Жыл бұрын

    1:20 You forgot to mention his amazing model train setup.