Humiliating This Protoss Player With Nukes - Ghosts to Grandmaster
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Are you actually commenting while playing like a pro? And being funny at the same time? Dude, you're awesome! Instant sub
@uThermal, I haven't seen you do this yet, so maybe it'll help: You should drop your ghosts off before going into the main of your opponent, holster the weapons and cloak them. Then pick them up and drop inside the main. That way you can drop ghosts that are already cloaked and it might make it just sneaky enough for your opponents not to notice it.
@uThermal
2 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting!! fml xD
@ramil8029
2 жыл бұрын
@@uThermal Haha happens! I'm really enjoying your builds in M1, btw. I just killed a protoss with the rax float ghost into his main on Pride of Altaris, and he said he's so annoyed by this build, he faced it 3 times in the last couple of weeks! Jsyk, your builds are taking over the meta and messing with Protoss heads!
20:52 "proper notifications for multiple nukes" The nuke notification delay is about 1.5 seconds, so if you start calling down 10 nukes within that interval, only 1 notification is heard. Unsure if different announcers have a different delay though, only tested it for one. Actually you can probably check the replay after you multi-nuke some opponents to hear what they heard. You also hear their announcer on replay I think.
@AerynGaming
2 жыл бұрын
There is another issue - the sc2 engine can only track 64 sounds at a time, so in some circumstances (packs of stimmed marines trigger this most easily) you can play many sounds within a short span of time. If you play too many, the oldest sounds instantly cut off. I've verified from video recordings that it's played something like "Nuc.." and then cut off the voice line when somebody nuked me in the middle of a fight which ended up with the nuke landing because i didn't see or hear it. Also - while the gameplay in replays is deterministic, i don't believe that the generated sounds are. In that case you could hear something differently in a replay (or in multiple plays of the same replay) than in the actual game.
I lost it when he made 5 obs and you killed them all easily
@jayjacobl4667
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha he thought building more obs would save him and counter the build.
@RossRadikSherman
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayjacobl4667 It does counter it; it's just that you have to split the observers up, which is hard to do.
@__Mr.White__
2 ай бұрын
22:40 but how can he snipe observers? they are not bio units.
I'd love to see a Mass Raven challenge! Also, yes, the snipe sound is the most satisfying sound ever!
The ketroc style ravens planetarys and mine’s is the best I have seen. He has 80 apm and smashed VIBE while he was steaming. Would be great to see uthermal do this build.
An idea for the second phase: you are allowed to build exactly one additional unit type (not counting medevacs, which are always allowed); the unit type is not fixed, you choose it to counter your opponent's build. I personally am looking forward to ghost/thor and ghost/bc combos, those should be epic ^_^
@lynk_1240
2 жыл бұрын
I like that idea, being allowed to make any other unit you want, but you have to pick only one. (It will probably be tanks in most cases though)
Your laugh when a fat nuke drops is so freaking great. I watch it like 10 times in a row
Ravens: Marines can kill anything if an anti armor missile is involved
Thought there was no episode today, checked channel and found this beaut for morning breakfast. You're a champ.
13:08 Big Oof for that guy. He forgot to set the rallyyyyyy!
Awesome games man very entertaining. Thanks for the series!
Your videos literally made me dl this game again after not playing for 7 years. Truly a legend
Your control is crazy man, your Raven/Mine would be an amazing series as well!
every time you land one of these nukes i can feel the other player silently age 10 years. its wild.
I love your stuff! Super entertaining! I would love to see more collaborations, especially with Harstem and Lowko. You are my favorite out of all the Dutch boys, but I still like those other guys. Would love to see you do some videos together! I would love for you to submit a imba report to Harstem!
About ghost and Terran, Beastyqt once did never attack to GM with ghosts as harass unit, might adapt similar rule, where only ghost are on the offense
This video came up in my recommended again and I’m still thinking about Frank and his zealot. He probably closed StarCraft and sat there for a second lol
Starcraft ii is a Game made in 2010 and it has aged like fine wine. More people need to play this game.
Great show, thanks
Guessing you know already.... But you can cloak the ghosts before you drop them (cloak, load, unload), so he has a harder job figuring out where exactly you dropped them in his base (if you boost over and drop while moving) You can also put the dropped nuking ghosts on "Hold fire", so they don't give away their position by attacking stuff
addicted to your ghost to grandmaster , looking forward for more
“Hell yeah, we did some damage to a forge. That’s why we play this game” 😂😂
Mass raven sounds really interesting, maybe combined with something like strarport only units allowed?
You make Terran look like a fun race. Love the daily uploads uThermal ;)
Thermy you really gotta start upgrading building armor with so many PFs, maybe in the natural from the ebay blocking xD
once you see the wall you need fast medivacs to drop your ghosts off directly in his base that protoss game was fun, but not sure it beats the triple nuke from last time
The Protoss with all the obs, probably cried when he saw you where on 7 bases while he was one two.
First nuke in last game is what made him push out. You can't spoil your plans and only damage a forge outta it 😆
"Cannons are turrets that shoot ghosts" - Uthermal 2022
You and harstem are my fav content on youtube
You can shift click the ghost away from the close nukes like when you nuked up the ramp without vision.
Can cloaked banshees count if you can't beat tanks?
I totally support raven only, my god it would be great to see you do double two raven drops in the enemies mineral line. They will have anti air, which doesnt work against turrents XD
LMAO the second game xD 😂
I think an awesome strategy would be to do fakeout drops with marines and 1 cloaked ghost, then drop a nuke with the ghost in their base while they are distracted. That could help you with higher level T players, by trashing out units for major ghost plays. Technically it is all still ghost play, and I think it would only constitute as a soft break to your ghost only rule as opposed to allowing Tanks or Cyclones. Otherwise, I think we would all be OKAY with seeing you use Widow mines as a supplemental unit to ghosts because they also cloak and go boom.
Raven has the Cheeto duster too. Maybe try something that doesn't usually work, but can take advantage of it, like reapers.
Raven sounds cool but does it work on high MMR? The turrets are stationary with a low duration and it's torpedo is not so damaging as it was before.
The best strategy is to get cloak before the 5 minute mark, then sit back and watch with the comments just at the edge of vision. When uThermal isn't expecting it, drop down and put thirty or forty characters. By the end of the video, you'll have two or three sentences easily. Hit the like on your way out. Clean.
Mass raven dayum that must be hell
I dunno about mass raven only , needs some ground units for buildings defended by turrets.
They should call you Marc The Marksman
Ggs!
What's a ebay blocked strat?¿?
Mass Raven combined with mineral only units. So you could do Raven with Marine Hellion on the ground to buffer. Gives you a mineral dump and something to do dps without energy. Raven only seems like you would never destroy buildings and there would be times where you just die or lose all momentum because no energy?
Just watched Nation wars, mass swarm hosts was realy unstopble, but you should play mass reapers against it in my opinion. Sad that you with Harstem didn't beat opponents, but anyway good games guys, prepare in 2x2 more harder and in next tournament you will win all :)
Triple EMP > Triple nuke to wipe out Nexuses, baybee..!
Mass raven + widow mines is a hell of a build.
Raven only defense, you can attack with units as normal, but for defense you can only use auto turrets, and one bunker and tnak per base or something.
I rly enjoy ghost series. What if next patch ghost can snipe everything (example 200/200 upgrate and takes 60 sec)
I'd love to see a Mass Raven challenge!
Pure entertainment this :D
Love it!
Great Games
7 gate blink stalkers is just filthy... also this episode your timings were a lot later, a bit more early pressure makes it easier
yay, more nukes ! lets go
You still had that first game, you just forgot to EMP the orbitals.. that would have been the play. Instead you put nukes down without EMPing so they were immediately scanned.
uThermal only shows his face because he doesn't want anyone to know he really has 6 arms and 6 hands
Protect the raven challenge u can only make one raven for vision for the rest of the game and mix it with another challenge like one raven while playing all ghosts
Still voting for ghost+viking, einherjar build! (ghost vs the bio, viking for stuff you can't really handle with ghost so good) Quad ghost into double viking into? (nukes? More ghosts?)
@IcariumGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Cyclones would counter both hard.
@GundamReviver
2 жыл бұрын
@@IcariumGaming he's killed cyclones with vikings before in penguin brothers. And if someone goes mass cyclone you can fly around them, cut off the retreat path and nuke them.
@IcariumGaming
2 жыл бұрын
@@GundamReviver I'm not sure, but I think cyclones move faster than vikings, if not the same speed. So moving in front of them to cut them off, doesn't sound plausible to me, unless you are splitting your forces, at which point he can just fight/kite the vikings.
What about Raven being the only unit you can build more than one of?
Hey uThermal, AWESOME content :)! I love the different styles and how well you communicate :) Did you think about hiding the score a bit more maybe :)? Currently it always jumps in front of me and blocks some view of the awesome content. One area would maybe top right below the rest of the UI :)?
Maybe make your bases planetaries (3rd onward) and orbitals in the main as well.
MOAR NUKES!
Everybody loves Raven mark
What about Ravens and Liberators?
Probably need to wall off the probe to deny scout
Raven + widow mines ?
nukes in SC1 and SC2 are more some sort of a meme than a legit tactic. But perhaps they are underrated if used correctly?
Phase 2: ghosts and tanks
I would like to see an all Thor army.
Challenge idea: Ghost Raven. EMP and Anti-Armor Missile. Could be an interesting combo...
Mass Ravens! Yes!
Upgrade the bunkers to fit more ghosts. If you can’t build any other units need to help keep them alive.
Raven Thor only?
Robots only. Ravens and Widow Mines.
Raven? Think Ketroc, the guy has a pretty funny unique cheese: mass raven.
Mass sentry ❤️
used to love this game but too many changes made me forget it
What a god
Love it
Thanks!
@uThermal
2 жыл бұрын
Pure mass ravens may not work against high level Protoss since mass HTs can Feedback them, plus Feedback has 10 range. Maybe an Air only challenge? Viking, Banshee, Raven, Lib, BC only? (Potentially Medivac for Viking drops)
@tast2798
2 жыл бұрын
My guy... Feedback does not have 11 range. 😁 that would be about as much as a tempest.
@Sturmbohnen
2 жыл бұрын
@@tast2798 10 range, my mistake. Tempests actually have 10 range too
always click the ghost so we can see how many kills he got
Flying units only.
maybe you want to have some planetary fortresses in your bases at least one to survive into midgame
Why did you mention you can't EMP a void ray at 16:59?
@uThermal
2 жыл бұрын
EMP renders stargate units useless because they need energy besides a voidray which can still kill you
@Omnomnious
2 жыл бұрын
@@uThermal What about carriers?
Another great video! I recently heard Harstem say that Enhanced Shockwaves was the most broken upgrade in the game. Perhaps it should be a higher priority upgrade against Protoss for this challenge. I'm not sure at what point you get it in the course of the match so maybe you're getting it fairly early. If you do end up going for a raven based challenge, please check out this guy: kzread.info He has been doing essentially the same build for nearly a decade. No scout, turtle terran who goes mass planetary fortress. If he survives the early and mid-game, he ends up with a huge economy which he mostly uses to build ravens. When he's being attacked, he uses the ravens to cripple his opponents economy. He will often send out window mines, helbats and even ghosts depending upon the matchup. It is interesting to watch at times. Maybe you'd find this strategy interesting and of course with your skill level could improve upon his ideas as his APM level often leaves him floating a ton of minerals/gas.
@asdfqwerty9241
2 жыл бұрын
I think enhanced shockwaves goes way down in value the more ghosts you have. I mean, it only really saves some energy on ghosts in most cases because there's nothing stopping you from just using EMP more to make up for it (and that would mostly only be the case in larger battles, not in the small scale battles you see early in the game), but when you have mass ghosts saving energy on your ghosts isn't nearly as valuable because what are you actually going to do with that extra energy - normally it would allow you to get by with using fewer ghosts.. but if you can only build ghosts then that's not really an option. It's also useful when it comes to dealing with other spellcasters (ie. winning the feedback vs. EMP war against high templars by having slightly better range), but you're probably not going to see your opponent using high templar when you're going mass ghosts.
I have a new favorite channel hahahaha
KZread algorith, please produce one engagement.
Mass raven and PFs only :)
Raven + mass Marine, but try not to use auto turret? (Anti-Armor + Disable, stim-amove?)
What does "Oppa" mean? I notice you and Harstem saying it a lot. I can't find anything on it except some greek exclamation, and I know it also means grandfather in German, but I don't think that's what you're saying haha.
Mass Raven and you can have any unit you want, but only one of each.
dude made 5 obs and F2 moved them all XD
Tbh you should make offensive SCVS... Should be within the limit of the challenge!
Raven, hellion/hellbat PF only!
You have to play barcode for these series. 90% the cyclone turret guy knew what was coming. also, more pf
Just in this episode I realize you're also Dutch. The way you pronounced scouting (Skauting) I'm sitting here thinking well, this guy sounds as terrible as I do :D
Just like you get humiliated at all tournements😂