Hello! Christina, Vox producer, here. Thanks for coming on this journey with me! As with all videos, there are always bits of information that don’t make it in. A tidbit I couldn’t include but found very interesting was that during the Vietnam War (or the American War, as they call it in Vietnam), the US secretly used cloud seeding as a weapon. Here’s a 1972 New York Times article that goes into more detail: www.nytimes.com/1972/07/03/archives/rainmaking-is-used-as-weapon-by-us-cloudseeding-in-indochina-is.html Were you familiar with cloud seeding before watching this video? Let me know in the comments!

@khalilahd.

Жыл бұрын

Wow I actually had no idea about this! Thank you for informing us 🙏🏽

@theill3stgoblinking693

Жыл бұрын

Operation Sober Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 1967-1972

@MorRobots

Жыл бұрын

San Angelo is oil filed country. I'm surprised the climate change conversation did not come up in this with regards to how the region did not really benefit from the value that was pulled from the ground and then used to worsen their situation.

@DanDCool

Жыл бұрын

Hei hi yey²

@Kambra

Жыл бұрын

That's not the only time it was 'secretly used'. It was also used by the brits to flood out german soldiers in ww2, but it was mutual destruction as it caused intense flooding for weeks

It is worrying that people who can be in denial of the human impact on climate change are also provided with tools to directly manipulate the weather.

@grmpEqweer

Жыл бұрын

❗‼️❗

@kay_knox

Жыл бұрын

"We need to do something, we can't just sit on our hands" - man who doesn't believe in man-made climate change

@flyer3455

Жыл бұрын

This seems like an answer to climate change.

@flyer3455

Жыл бұрын

What's more is that who cares what they think. They have a practical solution to a practical problem. Neither my beliefs nor knowledge are making carbon emissions go away anytime soon.

@vinny7114

Жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly

Forests are the most efficient sources of precipitation. Areas that were stricken with droughts and grew their forests back were able to modify rainfall patterns. But obviously you need a lot of forest. That's why its important to keep the vegetation around.

@Sinaeb

Жыл бұрын

and that's why leaving bare fields of dirt to dry in winter is a bad idea

@mukkaar

Жыл бұрын

Yep, what you really want is to overall improve the ecosystem. Unfortunately cheapest way to produce anything short term is by just straight up exploitation.

@terrific804

Жыл бұрын

Funny how 3 of the recent droughts shown in your graph occurred long before large scale CO2 production or any significant change in atmospheric CO2 levels...prior to 1950.

@Ninjaeule97

Жыл бұрын

@@terrific804 You know droughts existed before climate change, right? Climate change isn't creating them out of thin air, just making them more common and more server. Scientists figured out that CO2 traps heat and is therefore a greenhouse gas in the 1800s. If there was no greenhouse effect then life on earth wouldn't even be possible. Farmers sometimes even add CO2 to their greenhouses in winter so they don't have to heated as much. If it works in the lab and in those greenhouses then why shouldn't it also work for the atmosphere? Also if there is no climate change then why are shipping companies planning/ already chartering shipping routes through the arctic?

@thomasnikolaus4395

Жыл бұрын

@@terrific804 Coal was burnt large scale long before the 50s.

Here after Dubai’s flooding

@hippopotamus86

17 күн бұрын

Global warming.

@JoshuaFatman

12 күн бұрын

Texas flooding now

As a researcher on this topic, what this video fails to mention is that cloud seeding REQUIRES that the water is taken from somewhere else, it only induces rain, yet doesn’t CREATE water, and is therefore not a real solution because it just causes drought in places people can’t afford cloud seeding.

@MrMazzmosis

Жыл бұрын

Came here to say this. CIA stole weather from Cuba in the 60's to hurt it's sugar exports. Today, Saudis are zapping clouds and making it rain in the desert. Humans dun goofed the planet.

@filippos989

Жыл бұрын

As he said it is a rain enchancer, its for more even distribution.. i thought that was obvious?

@Maklaka

Жыл бұрын

Devil's advocate here -- isn't it possible that in some cases the seeded water would have rained into the ocean, thereby escaping freshwater banks/sources until it again evaporates? When viewed from that perspective, cloud seeding is a potentially cheaper and more effective than desalination?

@brianmadera1828

Жыл бұрын

Capitalism of rain. U need to pay for seeding so rain goes to u otherwise everyone else takes your rain.

@Sc0ttynzl

Жыл бұрын

@@brianmadera1828 i don't think he has researched alot to be honest

Farmer: I don't believe human activity is changing the weather... I want humans to fly over my farm and change the weather.

@Sannidor

Жыл бұрын

I see what you did there. Worldwide climate is a cyclical phenomenon, it IS change. Weather is described as local and therefore a concept of micro-climates must be introduced to keep coherency. Humans don't have the ability to change climate and even with malicious efforts to shift weather on small scale the macro system will self regulate.

@meade6291

Жыл бұрын

@@Sannidor whilst I appriciate the elementary weather/climate lesson. I am already aware of the difference, but your condescending and verbose explanation missed the point. The agricultural laborer can't see the forrest for the trees.

@noejaun2540

Жыл бұрын

@@Sannidor Humans absolutely can affect climate. You truly fail to understand the scale of impact industrialization has on our environment. Humans are so capable they can actually study their own impact and our how climate is changing at artificial rate, not a natural.

@whatsursource

Жыл бұрын

Average Texas hick

@raoulduke7668

Жыл бұрын

@@Sannidor oh humans can definitely affect the global climate. Just look at the ppm of CO2 since the industrial era and before. Greenhouse effect is a thing.

"No, humans can't possibly be causing climate change!" "Yes, of course seeding the clouds can change the weather!" How can you believe both of these things simultaneously?

@brunolondinese5857

Жыл бұрын

The same way we can believe the planet is warming even when it's a very cold day outside. Climate isn't weather.

@kennarajora6532

Жыл бұрын

I know we're all pointing out the errors in some of those farmer's logic, but we shouldn't forget that they're the one's who are going to suffer the most because of it.

@redbloodedbutterfly

Жыл бұрын

@@kennarajora6532 Maybe they should consider not growing a water intensive crop like cotton in an area that gets hit by severe droughts.

@NA.NA..

Жыл бұрын

There's a difference between weather and climate.

@Cotif11

Жыл бұрын

@@kennarajora6532 You reap what you sow, quite literally, or rather not at all in this case. I have no sympathy, they're mostly all petty small-minded people anyways.

Doing this means reducing the rain elsewhere, important to note this. Cloud seeding might make the drought less impactful in one area but it may make it worse elsewhere

@Joexdude

Жыл бұрын

I thought this too, but other places are getting too much water now. So I see this more as redistribution.

@blank.9301

Жыл бұрын

Same here in Australia. But at the same time, it's better to a more rain than less/none...

@Hansulf

Жыл бұрын

I guess a place with over 1500mm/year is not going to notice 150mm/year drop

@picklesdill9138

Жыл бұрын

its a cycle... its not like the cloud is formed with set amounts of moisture... there is evaporation from areas that have adequate water supplies... so in short no... it is not keeping rain from other areas

@robinsss

9 ай бұрын

''''@@picklesdill9138 ''''''here is evaporation from areas that have adequate water supplies'''' the Pacific ocean

remember you are not 'creating' rain by this method but prioritising one region for rain over another

@sleverlight

25 күн бұрын

Yea I'm thinking what's the Ecological impact of this? It might stop rain going to a nearby forest

I farm in Canada. I've always feared that Montana farmers would seed their clouds before they reach the boarder and rain on me. If you cause a cloud to fall it is not falling on someone else. We are in a two year drought right now.

@0Adnin

Жыл бұрын

Can't believe this thing was tackled in comics. Concept was when you make artificial rain. You steal rain from somewhere else.

@Ardjano234

Жыл бұрын

It's gonna be 1812 again

@nathanlevesque7812

Жыл бұрын

@@0Adnin Dance Powder in Alabasta

@MarloSoBalJr

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanlevesque7812 We just need Vivi to bring peace to our two worlds

@drmodestoesq

Жыл бұрын

@@0Adnin What comic was that? Asking for a young friend.

I worry that it's a zero sum game. If people in one place practice cloud seeding, do other people down wind get less rain because there's less water in the air?

@nikujaga_oishii

Жыл бұрын

in some countries, they are used to divert rains into agricultural water reservoirs before it reaches metropolitan areas, where rains are unwelcomed

@djones1558

Жыл бұрын

It could be used for political purposes.

@specific_pseudonym

Жыл бұрын

This is what worries me. What happens to the farmers that are downwind? Does their drought just get worse? What about when an entire state or country does it, influencing the water availability to their neighbors? How will this impact water tables if this water never reaches them, and IDK, starves entire forests?

@himesilva

Жыл бұрын

@@specific_pseudonym Sadly it’ll only happen if whoever is downwind, is poor

@NA.NA..

Жыл бұрын

The only people down wind of West Texas, is east texas, which is humid and receives the precipitation from ocean currents. The people they are theoretically stealing from have way more than enough.

Are those chemicals harmful to us, plants, animals or the earth? I didn't hear anything about that at all.

@mixup2216

Жыл бұрын

They said the impact on the environment (besides making it rain of course) was negligible at one point

@elizabethwallace-donnelly.2356

25 күн бұрын

Yes it has to be 😮😢

@Me-hf4ii

14 күн бұрын

They have not studied human or animal or plant impact. They anticipate that it will be minimal… so that’s reassuring 🙄

@davisb9074

13 күн бұрын

silver iodide is an extremely toxic inorganic compound.

And they use to call me a conspiracy theorist over saying they did this they finally admit it

For the past 5 minutes, I've been trying to figure out why I'm so bothered by the fact that some people who deny human-caused climate change recognize that climate change is real and that its effects will hurt them. I think the answer is that the same people will vote against measures to reduce carbon emissions. It's like they want protection for themselves and nobody else, so while everybody else suffers they'll be in the position to thrive and deny others their right to protection from climate change. But what they don't realize is that their selfishness will only lead to the problem becoming worse. This isn't like a natural disaster where whatever is inflicting the damage is localized. Climate change affects us all.

@TheSzyko

Жыл бұрын

Humans have always been good at finding solutions to symptoms instead of solving the causes. As an environmental scientist, I’m deeply concerned about what will happen if we keep denying the fact that humanity is destroying planet earth rapidly and that we are in fact responsible for accelerating climate change.

@dejectedsmilez

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSzyko it's not humanity, as much as it's the corporations. Blaming every day people is why nothing gets done, because you refuse to hold politicians accountable. You pick a side over feelings, and not for real change. You pick career politians, and lawyers, who are only out to fill their pockets. Stop saying it's humanity. It's literally the rich who are destroying the planet.

@terrific804

Жыл бұрын

Explain to me why people move from cold climates to warmer ones and then complain if the temperature goes up by a degree and a half?

@Artyomi

Жыл бұрын

When the heat wave struck the UK a week or so ago, I remember seeing a lot of british people saying "I never realized how much climate change would affect me, and now i'm worried for the climate" - which really annoyed me that you had to feel the effects after it's too late to want to change anything, and only when you are personally affected - and not when you see major flooding and droughts in third world countries.

@terrific804

Жыл бұрын

@@Artyomi one thing you guys never take into account is our information technology and how the globalists use it to brainwash us. Years ago we never used to hear heard about things from every corner of the world. Now most of the bad things are Cherry Picked because it serves big business big government and media Revenue. I stopped the Sunday paper because I was sick and tired of hearing about ferry boats in Bangladesh overturning every weekend.....

Without modifications to the extractive nature of current farming methods, this won't solve the problems. We need more no-till areas, better cover crops, and more natural areas that reinforce the natural water cycling touched on in this video. Forcing rain into an already parched landscape without fixing the issues which caused it won't be anything more than a temporary fix

@LutraLovegood

Жыл бұрын

Like a band aid on a gaping wound.

@Elevendyeleven

Жыл бұрын

Cloud seeding causes its own problems. Vox forgot to "explain" that part.

@jrh928

Жыл бұрын

@@Elevendyeleven such as?

@apexone5502

Жыл бұрын

@@Elevendyeleven such as? (©️ jrh)

@my2iu

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It looks like the farmer tills his farmland, so the soil has likely lost its ability to hold moisture during droughts, and what little rain there is will evaporate quickly.

Doesn't really seem effective in the long run, since droughts are on the rise that means less rain clouds with less rain clouds means less opportunities to seed the cloud.

@windwatcher5

Жыл бұрын

But if the cloud seeding worked then wouldn't there be more rain which creates more lake water to evaporate into more clouds which then can be seeded. Kinda like making an orchard from the seeds of one apple.

You’re growing cotton (huge water intensity crop), in a arid semi desert environment, and have water problems….. I’m shocked that you’re shocked! I wonder if they’re also studying how they’re changing things like air moisture, effects downwind areas….

The thing that I haven’t heard discussed is the consequence of removing the water before it was going to come down. What about the region behind the seeded area? Are they getting less rain?

@kinghassy334

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe this video doesn't discuss this at all, it's the fundamental problem that needs to be resolved

@roch.el_

Жыл бұрын

And it's such a logical question to ask. Which shows that they deliberately omitted to answer that

@ronni_boni7392

Жыл бұрын

While that is definitely an issue, it may still be viable for certain regions where wind direction takes the clouds to the sea before it rains. So with cloudseeding, rain can be used for these regions without adverse effects since rain wouldnt be of use at sea, with the knowledge that I have currently

@FranciscoBurrola

Жыл бұрын

The Mexican states that are located South of Texas are deeply affected by drought, so you may be onto something

@jashannon

Жыл бұрын

yes. it's theft.

I think it's a nice temporary solution, but it should be used to help grow plants that have long-term effects on the wheather (read: trees) instead of using it to continue destorying nature.

@lin90210

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@cancerino666

Жыл бұрын

Terrible temporary solution. You aren't making it rain. You are stealing rain from someone else.

@roydaboii9925

Жыл бұрын

@@ingulari3977 well how are we gonna fix drought then?

“The pilots fly through the clouds and leave a trail of chemicals that help form raindrops…” Conspiracy theorists: 👀

@selohcin

Жыл бұрын

Exactly right. This was what Alex Jones was saying 15 years ago.

@thegrayinthefield8764

9 ай бұрын

It's the same basic premise: Water vapor condensing around aerosols. Cloud seeding has been a thing since at least the '60s. The main difference here is that they're probably not doing it to encourage rainfall.

@magneticflux7833

28 күн бұрын

This. And they they have a condensed area with what they are spraying. The long term effects of it at are unknown or even if it works. Just not ok with them spraying the sky's. It can't be healthy.

@bvilleD

26 күн бұрын

But commerical airlines are not cloud seeding,.lol

They do this in the UAE 🇦🇪 too. In New Year's Eve 2021 , they cloudseeded All of Uae and it was raining for 3 hrs. The roads were full of water

@videosinmyplaylist

28 күн бұрын

Now it's more than obvious

@joeldipu6754

26 күн бұрын

@videosinmyplaylist Well I have seen the news and the government is saying they did not do any cloudseeding before the 16th April floods,so who knows what caused it.

This feels bad. Desperate times calling for desperate measures that still aren't viable as long-term solutions. Thank you for the informative video

@BooRadleyTube

Жыл бұрын

In many countries cloudseeding is a viable long-term solution. It's been used successfully in Australia for decades.

@eatplastic9133

Жыл бұрын

Yet we still have global warming, huge fires and temperature amplitudes

@somerandomguy7458

Жыл бұрын

Even if we stop emissions it would take 50-60 years to even have ANY noticeable impact

@5446isnotmynumber

Жыл бұрын

@@somerandomguy7458 no matter what we do the climate will change, we are due for an ice age.

@Emerald_Forge

Жыл бұрын

@@somerandomguy7458 After 200 years of constant imissions that's the best we can hope for. Plus stopping immisions isn't about reversing what we've done it's about stopping what's to come.

but what they don’t tell you is that cloud seeding is hugely opposed by most scientists. i did a geography minor at the university of nevada, and one of the classes i took was about international water issues. the professor refused to talk about cloud seeding because she says it’s not a viable option to reduce the impact of droughts. instead, management programs are far more important. now that’s not to say everybody is on the same page when it comes to water, she had multiple guest speakers come to class with entirely opposing views when it came to solving water problems, but not one of those experts agreed with the practice of cloud seeding. also, she noted that china is the only place doing it on a large scale, and she thought that there was significant negative environmental impact.

@rainmanjr2007

Жыл бұрын

Bernie Vonnegut, brother of Kurt, was a founding member of cloud seeding. From his experiments at GE to The DoD they tried to make this work but it simply didn't. It sometimes created floods more severe than the drought's effects. It's in a book called The Brother's Vonnegut and I recommend it. Seeding seems to have grown in understanding from what Bernie found but your comment would seem to contradict that thought. I would use the land for large greenhouses that can produce with recycled and filtered water systems, or sell it to developers who will put up mass housing for the many climate migrants who are coming and move, but the answer isn't in temporary rain events.

@the_crypter

Жыл бұрын

"she thought that there was significant negative environmental impact", Such as ? You can't leave us hanging.

@Sam-zq4yx

Жыл бұрын

@@the_crypter Primarily it deprives another area of rain instead, disrupting the water cycle and weather systems there.

@the_crypter

Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-zq4yx But in places like china they make it rain before those clouds go over a city and rain there where they would be wasted anyway.

@feline.equation

Жыл бұрын

@@the_crypter she didn’t go into depth, basically just said that it’s junk science and wasnt content that belonged in her class about solving issues. a few people asked about it throughout the semester and she deflected every time and wouldn’t let somebody do their final project (a whole forum she puts on for students at research schools to look into water issues) on the subject. it’s a big time research school and she’s big into the environment and a really well trusted scientist.

Planes releasing chemicals to control the weather: 1980s: science fiction 2000s: conspiracy theory 2020s: reality

@user-vz7jm1yj9c

Жыл бұрын

1980-2021 -chemtrails! - no no its conspirasy theory, no no they dont exist , it is just water steam line behind jet engine 2022: ...

@edwardmitchellrealty4327

Жыл бұрын

Cloud seeding has been around since the 1940s. The conspiracy theories in the 2000s were saying jets were releasing chemicals to control people’s mind. Conspiracy theories generally aren’t that smart and never admit when they were wrong they just revise history.

@DJJonPattrsn22

Жыл бұрын

You just forgot the first entry: 1960s cloud seeding technology secretly invented (Or whenever it was...)

@hexahexametermeter

2 ай бұрын

Vietnam War: Reality

Gpa was a chemical engineer in 40s and think this technology existed before that. He was a believer in this technology so I have wondered why it hasn’t been used more. He also stress tested airplanes so maybe he should have delved more into this technology. I had miss remembered it as silver nitrate not iodide. Very nice-thanks for sharing!

1:11 please include Celsius degrees so non Americans can understand too

@miljantrajkovic1862

Жыл бұрын

+ 1

@steviewonder2492

Жыл бұрын

-30 and divide by two is the arms length calculation otherwise google can translate it quickly to the exact number

@switch_lp1386

Жыл бұрын

Yes please

@deomnibusdubitandumest

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely. Vox needs to know that their audience is not only Americans.

@rhinos111

Жыл бұрын

@@rythmater I don't think so. 30 degrees celsius is hot, 54 degrees farenheit is cold.

By your explanation, cloud seeding seems like putting a plaster on a massive wound. Also I'd like to point out that ground water is not a renewable resource a common misconception.

@PG-3462

Жыл бұрын

Water is a renewable resource. When we consume water, we can easily clean it back using even simple tools. It's fossil groundwater that's not renewable, and places like Arizona and Texas use tons of it. Edit: typo

@user-pattt

Жыл бұрын

@@PG-3462 Non-renewable water resources are not replenished at all or for a very long time by nature. This includes the so-called fossil waters. Renewable water resources are rechargeable due to the hydrological cycle unless they are overexploited, comprising groundwater aquifers and surface water like rivers and lakes.

@chunky16

Жыл бұрын

I understand that they use silver iodide to sort of coax the water out of the clouds as rain and they repeatedly do this if the clouds hold on to that water too much to kinda help the natural cycle happen? I think that means they're not adding more water from somewhere else

@maximeleclerc327

Жыл бұрын

Water doesnt simply dissapear from our universe, it is transformed into a different form. The problem come when the cycle of regeneration of water is broken. Its really hard to get it back to work, in fact, it is so hard that even our planet doesnt know how to do it, thats a reason we have deserts in many places in the world, because the cycle doesnt work there

@PG-3462

Жыл бұрын

@@user-pattt Congrats, you litterally just explained why your first comment doesn't make sense.

UAE Floods are caused by cloud seeding in UAE cloud seeding project . It also causes flood damage in neighboring countries. And takes away natural rainfall in the surrounding areas, accelerating dryness, forest fires, droughts, and deserts. In order to make natural rainfall, it is necessary to green the desert and increase forests.

There once was a man who knew how to make a special mixture that he would release into the air which created rain clouds and rain. He would go to towns who needed water from drought. His mixture worked too well sometimes, flooding a town with too much rain. Unfortunately he never wrote his recipe down and he never trained anyone in his methods so the mixture was lost to time. I have faith that one day someone will figure out the right combination that gentlemen did.

Cloud seeding only works if there are water-filled [thundstorm] clouds in the area (I.e. rain enhancers). The main problem is that climate change is altering the formation of water-filled clouds.

@laddo

Жыл бұрын

Literally what the video says.

@janeblogs324

Жыл бұрын

You haven't realised they are heating water bodies to form the clouds. Search bill gates powerplants in the middle of the ocean. The clouds they produce can be seen from space

@robinsss

9 ай бұрын

not true the clouds don't have to b water filled the seeding will pull water from the surrounding air into the cloud making it bigger

@RosyOutlook2

9 ай бұрын

" Cloud seeding only works if there are water-filled [thundstorm] clouds" Nope they spray aerosols which have metal nanoparticles in them. "Ice nucleation by micas" use of Pseudomonas syringae particles Silica aerogel nanopowder, nano-sized titanium dioxide, silver iodide, barium strontium, aluminum And " Nanoparticle additive fuels: Atomization, combustion and fuel characteristics" are added to aircraft fuel "The main problem is that climate change is altering the formation of water-filled clouds" Nope, weather and climate engineering is altering the weather and climate.

Question: does the silver iodide affect the environment?

@teraiii8141

Жыл бұрын

Cloud seeding does not amount to a harmful level of sodium iodide. Therefore it does not, however cloud seeding does , it can cause changes in rainfall patterns .If done wron , it can also create massive changes in temperature within an area.

@anahata2009

Жыл бұрын

That was my question, too. The report they highlighted here talked about "negligible" effects, but that's pretty vague. The report talked about silver being detected in parts per trillion in the water, and parts per billion on the ground (so, apparently higher concentration on ground), but that these were less than what's expected in the natural background quantity of silver. However, my question is, would repeated seeding result in an accumulation that eventually goes above what's considered safe. Sure, concentrations might be low when sampling after one experiment, or even a few experiments, but what if they're seeding on a regalar basis? What then? We shouldn't make communities into guinea pigs while we test this out.

@Dudix

Жыл бұрын

@@teraiii8141 just image an area where they did cloud seeding for a decade or two. U think it would still not be a harmful level ?

@lutzkobbbel4254

Жыл бұрын

@@anahata2009 Yeah seems like a big point to let out of this video

@sushanalone

Жыл бұрын

@@teraiii8141 It could if you do it regularly over decades.

90s 'oh no they're putting chemicals in the shy' 22s 'oh ya they're putting chemicals in the sky'

We have been seeding clouds for rain for quite a few decades now, this isnt a thing we just figured out, i learned about this in school in the early 1990s.

I just defended my PhD on this subject at the University of Wyoming, working with the people who did the SNOWIE experiment. I focus on the orographic wintertime seeding efforts in the Wind River Range, Wyoming. My work shows an increase in precipitation of 1.1% for these seeded storms.

@kennarajora6532

Жыл бұрын

It must be nice to see that your hard work is changing the world

@JermStone

Жыл бұрын

Increase precipitation in one area... decrease it in another.

@inafridge8573

Жыл бұрын

1.1% is a lot less than 15. Is that because it's Wyoming, rather than a place as arid as Texas? Or?

@andrews9054

Жыл бұрын

Do you have any data on whether it negatively impacts precipitation in surrounding regions? Also does an increase of 1% make a significant enough difference that it would be worth the cost of cloud seeding?

@thomasowenmazzetti7877

Жыл бұрын

wintertime stuff in the mountains that i study is a bit different of a situation that is easier to nail down the yield. summer time programs like the one showcased in this video are much more difficult to nail down the impacts and that "15%" is a verryyyyy uncertain guess to my knowledge.

Surprisingly, cloud seeding has become daily practice by now across China. When we shot our video on the wilderness along the Sino-Russian border region, we were shocked how everything around there is controlled by humans: the fields, the river, and yes - even the rain.

@astroch

Жыл бұрын

Waiting for the redscare comments down here.

@optimx314

Жыл бұрын

but... communism bad!

@orionsbelt9381

Жыл бұрын

Is it good or bad?

@O_-mg8dm

Жыл бұрын

@@orionsbelt9381 May be good, prevents droughts and helps crops grow.

@m_lies

Жыл бұрын

China has regions that would normally have no real rainfall, but these regions have the best soil for plants, so by using cloud seeding they can produce a huge amount of crops in regions where it would have been impossible, like California in Amerika where it's only due to aqueducts that plants can be grown. But it has effects on climate, when you take water away before it reaches its original destination, this water will come short for the original region, but for now, no study can really say whether or not it affects the climate long time, but we know it changes something in the cycle, and that the biodiversity can be endangered by it. overall there are concerns because of weather change and the chemicals used (silver iodide, potassium iodide, or solid carbon dioxide), that it's most likely risky and endanger marine life, stall plant growth, damage the ozone layer, and reduce rainfall and increasing warming in other areas. also not always does it go as planned In "2009, China used cloud-seeding to bring reprieve to a drought. As a result, the temperatures suddenly dropped and Beijing was blanketed in the snow" (Pacific standard). Also Over 190 countries have agreed to a 2010 United Nations ban on using the climate engineering technology for large-scale climate engineering over concerns about its effect on biodiversity and so on, but china and other countries still use this on a very large scale...

Permaculture is the solution. Not further polluting the water cycle with more chemicals

@Voiceofreason772

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@Hansulf

Жыл бұрын

I wish... Permaculture can't solve all our needs.

@caz6152

Жыл бұрын

@@Hansulf permaculture is the solution for stabilizing the water cycle. I didn't say it would meet all our needs... that was your narrative addition.

@Hansulf

Жыл бұрын

@@caz6152 Well, if permaculture is not going to meet our needs, then we need to apply another system, right?

@caz6152

Жыл бұрын

@@Hansulf is this where you tell me to buy Bitcoin ?

"some farmers deny that human activity is driving climate change, but they all agree on one thing: things are definitely getting worse" HOW CAN YOU BE SO BLIND??

This is nothing new. Countries in Asia have already gone to court over disputes of one country "stealing" another countries rain by causing more intense landfall on one countries soil rather than the other, thus diminishing the total volume of water left to be released in precipitation. Water is a finite resource.

@smishra115

Жыл бұрын

The phrase 'Humans have finally...' suggests this is new. People have been doing this for ages across the world. Even in the US it has been done time and again since the 40s

Isn't making a cloud rain prematurely or rain more than it otherwise would essentially stealing that rain from the places where it would have fallen naturally? If not done responsibly, I fear this could end up causing environmental disruptions or droughts where there normally wouldn't be. In the worst case, this could cause international conflicts. I can easily see this being utilized as a tactic to purposely bring droughts to neighboring nations or for gate keeping the rain for economic gains.

@gmarefan

Жыл бұрын

Not impossible, although there are places that get too much rain or snow, or the ocean.

@picklesdill9138

Жыл бұрын

youre ignoring the fact that there is a cycle...so areas beyond the ones they seed will feed more water into the cycle through evaporation...

@Eusantdac

Жыл бұрын

Yes, cloud seeding is basically turning clouds into water prematurely. That can have a lot of implications.

Here right now after hearing about Dubai flooding from cloud seeding. I think they should try cloud seeding in the farther north areas for more snow to save the animal wildlife there and to make the temperature even colder because more snow on the ground equals more sunlight getting reflected back to space keeping the temperatures colder since temperatures are rising. They also said seeding the atmosphere with millions of tons of ice particles will prevent greenhouses from building up and cause it to fall back to earth.

I find it baffling that farmers, of all people, can be in denial about the affects of climate change. Is it something in the water?

@doctorbigsmiles

Жыл бұрын

It's something in the kool-aid

Is it possible that cloud seeding might reduce cloud cover and have adverse effects on the climate? If clouds reflect solar radiation it seems this would contribute to global warming/climate change. Maybe it's too early to know at this point.

@idzkk

Жыл бұрын

No proof of that. This is old tech i first heard 20 years ago but infact it has its origins from 1946(war is over scientists are back at doing something useful)

@PeepGamePopoff

Жыл бұрын

Is it possible they’ve been doing this for decades and have been manipulating the weather whenever they want

@sibproust9369

Жыл бұрын

One my side I will be more worried that it reduces the overall rainfalls, maybe there will a slight increase on the program's crops, but I'm sure the neighbors will suffer a lack of water (I'm glider pilot).

@oldvlognewtricks

Жыл бұрын

Reducing cloud cover also reduces albedo, so it’s definitely a factor… doubly so when it is used to form reservoirs, since large bodies of water also have lower albedo than other surface cover such as vegetation or geology.

@fcgHenden

Жыл бұрын

@@sibproust9369 But it says right there in the video. 15% more annual rainfall after seeding. 😒 Idk if it really works or if it's more correlation than causation but assuming you get less rain after data says you have more rain is a bit of a stretch, yeah? I mean, why gather data at all?

Cloud seeding was first used in the Vietnam War in 1967 in an attempt to wash out Vietnamese infrastructure with unusually large rains.

@user-mc6vi8yd7l

Жыл бұрын

did it work probably doesn't matter cuz they lost anyway

@prdamico

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mc6vi8yd7l yes, it worked

@fordtski

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mc6vi8yd7l Vietnam did not lose?

@Adrian-kb4rg

Жыл бұрын

@@fordtski he clearly meant the americans

@tuckerbugeater

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mc6vi8yd7l The US military also considered using smallpox. Wouldn't be the last bioweapon they considered using. Thanks to Fauci, biowarfare is still alive.

This is the water cycle that keeps us alive. Wow thank you for the review of 2nd grade science

Around 2018 in Venezuela, people started getting sick with rare simptoms. The government said it was a new mosquito desease. Some venezuelan scholars said that it was intoxication caused by chemical the government use to make more rain. The whole electric grid in Venezuela is run by hidroeléctricas and the absence of rains caused some electrical problems. I have some worries of the long term effects of those chemical that they use to force raining.

What happens to the Silver Iodide that falls down with the rain on the farm soil? What effects does that have on the quality of crops that grow? I am surprised that's not even mentioned as that was the first question I had in my head. This almost looks like a promotional video sponsored by a pro cloud seeding company.

@djones1558

Жыл бұрын

Shh. You're not supposed to ask questions or think about long term consequences. As a farmer, however, it concerns me too.

@escapefromtibet2530

Жыл бұрын

@@djones1558 stop with that conspiracy nonsense. Of course you are allowed to ask questions

@unidentifiedleiviathan7250

Жыл бұрын

@@escapefromtibet2530 hes pointing out that they are not thinking long term

@Ash-tree420

Жыл бұрын

Eventually it's going to come back to bite us. Lab tests on silver iodide show that it is toxic to plants and animals. It's also going to end up in the ocean and other water bodies.

@djones1558

Жыл бұрын

@@unidentifiedleiviathan7250 Yep!

One guy wrote a comment under one of youtube videos that he has been desert-farming for years in Texas and has been watering his plants just once a month instead of several times a month, but still has been getting good results. His secret is placing a layer of peat moss (or something like that) 3 feet under the ground. I'd also put a sheet of plastic under the peat moss in order to conserve the water and may be put something above the ground that gives light shadow. It's very hard to grow something under the sun with no clouds, so there should be technologies applied to conserve water and prevent soil from drying up and cracking. That's my opinion. I'm not an expert.

@Sinaeb

Жыл бұрын

like, letting nature grow plants when you're not using the land?!

@vamsikrishnabodaballa2739

Жыл бұрын

It kinda disrupts the water cycle. By not letting water seep in, the ground water depletes which results in empty lakes and dams which causes lesser evaporation and in turn lesser water in the clouds and also drinking water shortage.

@stefaniemerceron5976

Жыл бұрын

@@vamsikrishnabodaballa2739 Also putting plastic into the ground is never a truly good idea.

@MP-jc7er

Жыл бұрын

The plastic sheet is mulching paper and is also used to reduce weed growth

There was an article in Popular Science magazine in June 2017 about cloud seeding. In fact, here in Fargo, North Dakota, a local business called Weather Modification Inc has been flying all over the world for 10+ years to do cloud seeding

Paired with a drone distribution system that runs on an AI that can track and auto send to clouds, this could honestly become a way to bring water to over drying areas and may even be used to increase farm yield.

The science and medical community still have not come to a consensus on the prolonged use and exposure of silver iodide. Siting different climates with different concentrations over time will have varying unpredictable results. Silver iodide is not bioavailable and will concentrate in soils over time.

People still denying climate change?!

@tuckerbugeater

Жыл бұрын

Are people still denying the sun is hot?

@austinhernandez2716

Жыл бұрын

A huge portion of Americans, yes

I'm 28 years old and I want to be a mother. But with this technology, I'm thinking of not putting my kids at this kind of torture. Can be useful but can be dangerous too when put to the hands of evil.

I can't believe you didn't covered the problems with cloud seeding.

Little known fact: Kurt Vonnegut Jr's brother, Bernard Vonnegut, discovered silver iodide and effectively invented cloud seeding in 1946.

@loturzelrestaurant

Жыл бұрын

Has Vox ever covered Worker-Rights and -Struggles as good as 'Some More News' and 'Second Thought', who get showered iwth Praise for this very thing?

@billypilgrim1

Жыл бұрын

Uncle Bernie

@JavierFernandez01

Жыл бұрын

chem trails dont exist! ;)

@zacharytaylor190

Жыл бұрын

@@JavierFernandez01 Not in the sense that everyone talk about. Airliners would not be used for this, since it would be way too expensive, and they fly too high for it to have any effect. They are also not rated to fly as close to cumulonimbus clouds as these planes are, where an STC has been issued by the FAA. The white streams coming from an airliner's turbofans are a combination of Carbon Dioxide, uncombusted Kerosene, Nitrates, and most importantly Water. The atmospheric stability, relative humidity, temperature, and pressure all play an important role as to how fast they dissipate, as does the thrust setting of the airplane. They don't produce contrails at low power, or close to the ground. They do when the surrounding air is cold and humid, with a high power setting, as is normally the case in cruise flight. Kerosene (Jet A-1) is composed of many hydrocarbons, but a very prevalent one is dodecane (C12H26) [2C12H26 + 37O2 => 24CO2 + 26H2O]. This would be with perfect combustion in a pure oxygen atmosphere. One of the 2 products of the reaction is water, that has the ability to condense and from clouds. That's where the water comes from. These planes use flares, not spray (at least where I am from. It could be different elsewhere). Liquid doesn't disperse as easily and is generally heavier per volume of effective nucleation site dispersement.

@nickc3657

Жыл бұрын

I guess that explains some of the inspiration for Cat’s Cradle!

I heard about this some time ago. But the issue is you’re obviously taking that water from another place that needs it as well so then we’re just creating new problems. So it just goes back to real long term solution is solving climate change

@zyansheep

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, you could be taking water from clouds that would otherwise rain back into the ocean which isn't useful to anyone.

@Jeyblox

Жыл бұрын

One piece alabasta arc in a nutshell

@ilovebeinghydrated

Жыл бұрын

I dont think we will solve climate change in time. The world is too corrupt

@somecanadianboy667

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeyblox exactly

@miguelmoreton226

Жыл бұрын

Well those people are living the direct, more severe consequences of climate change and they still deny that humans have an impact on it. Amazing...

Didn't they try it in an Indian state of Tamilnadu almost a decade earlier . They actually tried it twice , the first time it was successful and the second time the winds weren't favourable and it backfired and caused excessive rainfall in the neighbouring country srilanka .

Cloud seeding is old thing,. In Indonesia we have dry season and wet season. Dry season is when land gone dry and no rain for long time. In 1996 - 1998 is the worst dry season in Indonesia that make many forest flame into fire,.at that time i hear all the time the TV news about goverment apply cloud seeding and man made raining in many spot in indonesia. I even alot of time see small airplane flying aroud above my area at that time,. And then the rain happened.

In 20 years: how silver iodine rain poisoned the groundwater

@spooniiboii

Жыл бұрын

@@Nate-.- that is still the same thing, I'm fairly sure because iodide is iodine, like 99% sure

@AdmiraloftheCrackNavy

Жыл бұрын

@@spooniiboii And iodine is an essential nutrient. That's why salt is enriched with it.

@dsur5547

Жыл бұрын

The amounts of silver iodide used have a negligible effect on the environment

@zmarc-

Жыл бұрын

@@spooniiboii iodine is the element, iodide is an iodine ion in a salt compound(has 1 extra electron), therefore Silver Iodide is still correct

@spooniiboii

Жыл бұрын

@@zmarc- I wasn't saying he was wrong I was just saying

This was discovered in 2000's but put in affect in 2018 and in Saudi Arabia and Qatar!

What about deforestation??? We completely deforested the whole US and now we are surprised it's not raining anymore...

10-15% improvement is laudable, but far short of sufficient. Also, if the droughts are going to get worse, there'll be less clouds to seed in the first place. It's a band-aid solution at best. We need to curb not only CO2 but also Methane emissions drastically, in a heck of a hurry, to avoid profound changes in the Earth's climatic zones. We're causing the end of one geologic age and the starting of another. Try to wrap your head around that. In spite of all the press climate change gets, it's still bigger, over a longer period of time, than most people understand. You have to mentally zoom out and think of Earth in geologic time spans to really get how serious this issue is. I suggest watching a lot of geology videos. The geologists and the paleontologists are the ones who really have a grasp of what's happening now, because they make a living studying similar changes that have happened in the past.

@seitanbeatsyourmeat666

Жыл бұрын

Jesus. Reading your comment literally caused my bp to go up. I’m off to find videos

@5446isnotmynumber

Жыл бұрын

Prepare for food shortages before its to late...

I fear that if we drain the clouds more than they already rain, the area covered by clouds will shrink and thus the atmispheric sunlight reflection will decrease too locally, resulting in more heating on the ground and worsen droughts otherwise. In this case cloud seeding would be counterproductive.

Man, this is going to be one big mess. Rain falling in one place means drought on another spot. What if that other spot is in another country? Long term downsides could be really huge as well.

THIS DID NOT AGE WELL

Relatively common in Alberta during the summer, although for a different reason. We can get some really nasty hailstorms when the warm moist air comes over the rocky mountains. This can destroy crops, punch holes in house siding, dent cars, and even seriously injure anyone unfortunate enough to be outside. It's not 100%, but it tends to reduce the size of hailstones, thus increasing crop yield and decreasing damage to both people and property.

In Russia, it is common practice to do cloud seeding around big cities before holidays - so that it rains somewhere else rather than in the city during the holiday. Usually they do it before Victory day to clear the sky for flypasts.

I feel like this topic needs like at least another episode, because there are so many open questions to it!

Pay attention when they start spraying...watch the weather change...I've been keeping track for 4 years now, I never been wrong so far.

We have had this technology for a while now, they have done this in many different countries. Dubai has been doing this many years.

“Have finally figured out” This technology was known since the 1960s

@herisuryadi6885

Жыл бұрын

They said the 40s on the video itself

Regenerative Agriculture would help a lot too. If the rain falls onto dirt, it evaporates easily, if it falls onto healthy soil, it will hold that water in.

So I got 2 questions 1, what happens to the chemical when it eventually drops to the ground (if it does) 2, is the rain safe for humans in the short and long run from the manipulated clouds?

@Hansulf

Жыл бұрын

They are very few quantities. One is iodine, which is harmless in low quantities and actually healthy as there are a ton of people with deficiencies. The other one is silver... which is also harmless.

@Ghosts1129

Жыл бұрын

The better question to ask is If that cloud dropped 15% more rain here, then who elsewhere will not get rain? It's like drinking from a cup that is meant for 10 people, but you drink 15% more than everyone else... who is missing out?

Ya gotta love the cognitive dissonance of acknowledging that the climate is getting worse but refusingto admit humans are the cause / solution.

@daviga1

Жыл бұрын

Left hand: Humans aren't causing atmospheric changes by releasing co2 Right hand: lets release chemicals to change the atmosphere

@vinny7114

Жыл бұрын

infuriating right? of course it's in Texas.

@terrific804

Жыл бұрын

The cognitive dissonance is more about the seriousness and understanding of the problem and its solution rather than acknowledging it.

There is an accidental Pond5 individual frame at 6:56 still in the video between the storm footage and the following scene

India should start cloud seeding. It's soaring temperature 40 degree Celsius in Chennai, Tamil Nadu.

Cloud seeding was a topic back in the 1960's. The question most asked was, who's cloud moisture is it ? If they seed the clouds before they reach my land, where is my water coming from?

From personal experience, in Phoenix AZ, seeding the clouds has made the infrequent storms more detrimental. The storms bring stronger winds and torrential downpour when it does rain. Instead of feeding my thirsty plants they're ripped up from the roots and snapped off in the wind.

All I can think of Is the Alabasta ark in one piece. Where the twist reveal is that water capture technology was used to heighten disparity with water capture & distribution between regions. Perhaps pessimistic of me but I am immediately worried as to how this technology can be misused.

Who else is here because of Dubai ??? 👀🙋🏾‍♀️

I can’t help noticing that mono culture (only having one or few types of plant in an area) is further worsening the situation. Why are we trying to change as much as possible away from what is natural? If there were more trees and bushes, the insects would thrive and the effect the sun would be less damaging and dry out the soil less (due to shadow). We see that the farmers are standing under a tree. Usually the ground around trees are greener. I notice this in Greece were I am right now. And if the ground doesn’t dry out as quickly this would be better for the aquifers which again affect the water cycle. However, industrial farming wants to have big gains, no matter what, without realizing the damage its causing, also for itself. Lets plant more trees and natural occuring plants, it will benefit everyone; insects, animals, birds and us.

Hubris of humanity at work again. Instead of just admitting we have overexploited areas that cannot sustain intensive agriculture and try to rethink our terrible ways, we're just gonna try to force clouds to rain now...

If one area pays to increase their rain by 15% have they also paid to decrease their neighbors rain by 15%? And if serious sustained drought is an issue what stops a wealthy county full of golf courses and suburban lawns from doing this?

@ALueLLah

Жыл бұрын

That’s not how this works…

@BPS298

Жыл бұрын

@@ALueLLah it is though? Using cloud seeding your taking water out of the cloud. That means that more water falls on one area but after that the cloud doesn’t have enough water to really rain much in a different area.

@RjMeelar

Жыл бұрын

yep, in the same way there are river compacts that agree who can take what water out, similarly if this is as effective as they are saying there would probably needs to be federal limits on how often you can do it.

@ALueLLah

Жыл бұрын

First and foremost, inducing more rain by seeding won’t affect the clouds in neighboring areas, as crystallization effect from silver doesn’t just jump cloud to cloud… and clouds are not stationary objects, they move and shift with wind, so you can’t order rain like takeout just with money. The rain from seeding helps large area as the rain cloud travels according to weather patterns. Secondly, considering these are high drought areas, extracting more rain from the cloud likely results in more downpour than the neighboring cities will experience naturally anyways. And let’s not forget that rain, like clouds, is not stationary and there will be overflow. Farms and cities alike rely heavily on rivers and dams, which are replenished by rain, and used by many counties over, so yes, this would really benefit the whole region. Really. Let’s be logical this isn’t science fiction.

@RjMeelar

Жыл бұрын

@@ALueLLah thanks Al, but we already knew what clouds were.

we, as humans, definitely should not be doing this.

The problem is tha you are getting water with heavy metals on it. Better to seed forests.

Is the silver that falls on the ground good for plants or humans? I mean, will it end up in the harvest and so in our food? Are there gonna be issues with less cloud-shielding from heat and an overheating that might cancel the effects of the enhanched precipitation? If that water gets to be taken down from the clouds "earlier" than when there are enough water droplets in the sky to create new precipitation, wouldn't it just make it rain more earlier and less later? I'd like to see a video also about the possible issues vox. Btw, thanks for your informative videos as always

@user-hc9sk3mg1h

Жыл бұрын

Just enough to cause extreme weather to push climate change and force food shortage.

you should look into what happened when they tried this in the '70s it almost destroyed a town called Big lake Texas with record setting hail

I remember reading this in a science book in elementary school in the 80s my science book had to have been from the 60s/70s

I’m I my here because of the Dubai situation of heavy rains that happened recently, and the most likely source of their issues is cloud seeding.

Cloud seeding has been here for a while. Back in Vietnam they used cloud seeding to flood the underground tunnels where the Vietnamese hid. Look it up, there’s KZread videos on it.

@janeblogs324

Жыл бұрын

To cause landslides

Australia did a lot of work on cloud seeding in the 1960's with, at times, up to 30% improvement in rainfall, but, in the end, decided it wasn't worth it.

@autumnpendergast9151

Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Look up! They do it every day here in Australia!

@BobHutton

Жыл бұрын

@@autumnpendergast9151 Sure, Tasmania kept dabbling in it, but abandoned even they abandoned it in 2016.

@autumnpendergast9151

Жыл бұрын

@@BobHutton I have hundreds of photos, believe me, it is still happening all over the mainland.

@BobHutton

Жыл бұрын

@@autumnpendergast9151 Do you have a source other than your photos? Like a research paper on it or even a news article.

Gabe Brown teaches on soil health principles that can help with this. It doesn't produce rain, but it can help retain more of the moisture that falls.

I think there is a lot of confusion as to what is being said in this video Cloud seeding works, that is not in question and hasn't been questioned for decades, there is literally research on this subject going back to the 40's. What is in questions is whether or not this actually increases the total rainfall for the area for an extended period of time and will it cause worse droughts elsewhere which is what most of the articles and interviewees are discussing but the interviewer doesn't seem to be relaying.

Born and bred in SoCal, so I'm intimately familiar with drought and the need for rainfall. However, attacking the broader problem with an actual bullet while ignoring issues like human effects on climate and environment, not to mention knocking down these farmers bent on tradition and not knowing anything else while willfully ignoring the harm they've done with monoculture agriculture and romanticizing their ridiculous simple life, is such a joke. Tanner could get it though.

@tubester4567

Жыл бұрын

Those farming methods allowed the world population to increase several fold, and brought food stability to billions of people. To get really serious about climate change means high energy prices which will affect mostly the poor. There are already western countries with electricity prices so high, working class people cant afford to heat their homes. This debate needs to change from "what are others" doing about climate change to "this is what Im giving up to stop climate change"

@PaulHo

Жыл бұрын

@@tubester4567 what we've given up as a society is the environmental cost, and in many cases, our livelihood. The corporations have offloaded the responsibility to consumers, making us recycle after they've already charged us the CRV and forcing municipalities to take on the multi stream operations, paid for my tax dollars. This is your argument of what we're willing to pay and do. It's already on us and why corporations need to be held accountable. Yes, the most disadvantaged do suffer disproportionately. That's by design of the very same system. Not everyone can afford to not redeem those bottles and cans, those populations are forced to collect and cash in large mounds of waste to get back what's theirs.

Would have been great to investigate the impact of using those chemicals released in the air, and the fact that forcing rain on farming area will deprive even more other areas. We need to stop unsustainable agriculture, corn for example is a massive waste of water. This is putting a bandage on a bullet wound. Agriculture is the biggest consumer of water by a huge margin, we need to rethink our way to farm. Not force the rain with planes and chemicals that contribute to global warming.

@BooRadleyTube

Жыл бұрын

Your comment is so full of errors I'm not sure where to start. These objections have been raised and openly discussed for decades. The chemical used, silver iodide, is perfectly safe for crops and dams. A microscopic quantity of the substance is used. It's absolutely false that silver iodide is a "chemical that contributes to global warming." It's also not the case that "forcing rain on farming areas will deprive even more other areas." Cloud-seeding programs, of which there are many around the world, are cautious about where and when they seed. They also have only marginal control over where and when rainclouds appear. The idea is that they squeeze as much rain as possible from a rain-cloud that will be passing by anyway. They don't and can't steal rain from one area and "force" it to fall on another. Cloud-seeding is a sustainable, environmentally-friendly solution that can support hydro-electric schemes as well as sustainable crops. If we're serious about mitigating the effects of climate change, we need to be open-minded about what science has to offer.

@ShadNex

Жыл бұрын

@@BooRadleyTube exactly

Cloud seeding doesn’t “fix” anything. I appreciate the science you’re laying down though

@SuperRonaldPig

Жыл бұрын

Helps a bit 15%. It something 🤖

@aydenfellerhoff3160

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperRonaldPig it helps those willing to pay for it - rain for you means no rain for others downstream

Assuming the studies on the environmental impact generally agree that it is negligible, and any side effects are carefully monitored, this seems like a powerful technology to use alongside reducing carbon emissions to minimise the impact of climate change on farming

I'm sure there are no unintended consequences of this. Perhaps we should consider alternatives to traditional agriculture?

@tuckerbugeater

Жыл бұрын

They can also use fly ash to create heatwaves.

They’ve been actively using Cloud Seeding here in Dubai for the last couple of years. It’s cooled down the temperature of the city significantly during the summer months and also provides water to the little vegetation yhe city has.

@benedictsaint9715

Жыл бұрын

@@ingulari3977 Who says so ? Are you God ?

Plant rows of trees and the shade will help keep the soil moist. Sure, it will leave less space for cotton, but its better than no cotton.

A step towards becoming a type 1 civ. ALSO, you can tell by how the older farmer describes a disheartening lack of yield that agriculture is more than a passion or way of life to him: it is tied to his very being and I can feel his emotion.