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@tommysaint4687

2 ай бұрын

Yall at takefoudry might like these books the remnants of Earth's past trilogy existentiadreaded left me us something else

@IsfetReigns

2 ай бұрын

I agree the rements of earths past is an exellent sci-fi series. @@tommysaint4687

@thecatsgato5283

2 ай бұрын

Make a video on kinito pet and how it exploits your emotions and fear, i would like that.

@Kuma_Kares

2 ай бұрын

The link isn't working

@kharijordan6426

2 ай бұрын

Ooooooooh I get it now. He subconsciously realizes that if they aren't humans anymore... other arriving humans will think they killed the previous humans and then try and kill them. And then they slowly turn into aliens...and the cycle repeats if humans keep coming. And the slow realization that they killed other humans with it. It took me abm bit to know the horror. Did anyone else catch this?

Silly theory: I think this is a cyclical thing. The martians had their own atomic war and they sent families down to Earth. Those survivors underwent a similar change and became humans. No matter where they go and what they become, these things won't ever go extinct.

@doncomputer5931

2 ай бұрын

That is a silly theory, but I like it. Cool Idea.

@KawaiiHamsteruwubean69

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it's just evolution

@leebulger7112

2 ай бұрын

​@@doncomputer5931This story sounds like a story about immigration and adjusting to a new culture while trying to hold on to the traditions and culture of where they come from.

@addison_v_ertisement1678

2 ай бұрын

Proof?

@Ether_the_puppet

2 ай бұрын

That’s actually awesome

Honestly, the main thing that shifts it into a tragedy for me is them forgetting their past lives. Their memories being altered to believe they were always martians is the point to me where this goes beyond metamorphosis into identity death.

@lemieux-z8933

2 ай бұрын

r/transformation moment

@tanuki01

2 ай бұрын

Do you remember very well who you were as a grade schooler?

@valentinewiggin9152

2 ай бұрын

It is an interesting thought, but for me it wasn't tragic. Looking back a few years, I remember what happened, but it is hard to remember, how I was, what motivated me to make certain decisions, what changes happened in my personality since - even though I remember events, people, interactions. I think the inability to remember their lives is a metaphor for this. They changed, so they could not tell, where they came from, or what the events of the past meant to them. But the family is still a family - so connections for example, didn't disappear.

@catpoke9557

Ай бұрын

@@valentinewiggin9152 That, and there's also the fact that if you don't know something, you can't be sad about it. And ultimately if there's nobody who is experiencing or has experienced the tragedy of it, is there really a tragedy at all? The fact they've forgotten their history is making nobody upset. So ultimately, it doesn't really matter. There's nobody for it to hurt. The only way it can really be considered a tragedy is because Harry was so upset when he saw the changes happening. But he had already become like them by the time they forgot their history. So even he didn't get to experience the consequences of it, and therefore it has harmed absolutely nobody that they have forgotten things.

@EchoSaintEco

Ай бұрын

SAINT RAIN WORLD!!!!

So fun fact, when you revealed the name of the story, I grew extremely confused. I remembered reading this short story in my English textbook in the early 2010s, but I remembered it being called “The naming of names.” Turns out, the original name was The Naming of Names when it was originally published, but changed later to “Dark they Were and Golden Eyed.”

@SybilantSquid

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I was likewise confused by the unfamiliar title and couldn't quite place where I'd read this story before.

@kharijordan6426

2 ай бұрын

hey I want to know if you cached this. Did you know the guy who wanted to get off the planet wanted to do so because you knew and knew humans would try and kill him and his family? It took me a few days to figure it out. This is one of the most fucked ways humanity go out by killing themselves trop ever.

@fgo29

2 ай бұрын

Sameeee i was like “I swear this feels familiar..”

@whisterbin

2 ай бұрын

there are more in this vein in "the martian chronicles" one book wasnt enough for all the short stories ig

@giyutomioka1187

2 ай бұрын

I read this book in 7th grade but forgot the name of it and I knew the story sounded familiar until I saw this and it clicked

I'd say Henry embracing his Martian-ness wouldn't be so bad, if it weren't for the fact taht they seem to not only forget who they were, but have disdain for them. They've forgotten their past, and are thus doomed to repeat it.

@Antasma1

2 ай бұрын

Being necessary for survival and growing to like your environment is one thing, but things like that still make the story creepy

@JB52520

2 ай бұрын

The same past won't necessarily emerge from different beings. The mistakes I've made were a product of my many flaws. If I became a normal human, I would hope to forget the cringe-inducing memories of things no normal person would ever do.

@vladyvhv9579

2 ай бұрын

@@JB52520 It's not necessarily individual pasts, but as a whole. A smart person learns from their mistakes. A wise person learns from the mistakes of others. If the mistakes of others are forgotten, and the mistakes of one's self are forgotten, there is only ignorance. You can in fact see in human cultures some that have repeated the very same mistakes that lead to the fall of others, and those mistakes leading to their falls. I belive this can be extended to encompass all sentient beings, life form, machine, etc. If you don't learn from the past, you're likely to fall into the same pitfalls as those who came before you.

@michaeljebbett160

2 ай бұрын

@JB52520 true, but that's not what happens here Thr metamorphosis seems to rob them of their prior perspective and history, which IMHO, is the most chilling part of the story

@The-Busy-Beeeee

2 ай бұрын

@@michaeljebbett160I feel like if someone where to learn Martian as a human they could put the history down in writing

Small correction: the word for Earth was "Iorrt," not "Lorrt." A capital I, not a lowercase L. Fonts where those two letters are identical are a plague.

@eigilholm6979

2 ай бұрын

Fun fact: "Lort" is Danish for "shit", so Iorrt (capital i) is much better.

@evilpompom

2 ай бұрын

When you pronounce it like that you can kind of trace the word Earth back to Iorrt.

@zerotwo7319

2 ай бұрын

Sorry. I am Having trouble to adapt.

@IgnisBB7

2 ай бұрын

So, the martians are british

@Someone-sc2hk

2 ай бұрын

they're kinda funny

I let out such a big grin when it was revealed it was written by Ray Bradbury. I read his The Illustrated Man recently and this story gave off such similar vibes. Truly an icon of classic scifi literature!

@Outrageous_Bear

2 ай бұрын

Me too, I heard the intro and I instantly said “ ray freaking Bradbury”

@iananelson8256

2 ай бұрын

Thanks I am halfway through and was like, "This sounds eerily like The Martian Chronicles!"

@Larper64

2 ай бұрын

Just started the video but now I have to ask, is this an adaptation/reading of "Dark They Were and Golden-Eyed"? It was the first Bradbury story I ever read. I always found it weird that it isn't included as part of the Martian Chronicles. I kind of understand why, as there is no where it can easily fit chronologically, but thematically it works so well that I was always surprised he never found a way to insert it somehow in the fix-up in some way.

@monki_stopmotion

2 ай бұрын

I love Fahrenheit 451

@kharijordan6426

2 ай бұрын

hey I want to know if you cached this. Did you know the guy who wanted to get off the planet wanted to do so because you knew and knew humans would try and kill him and his family? It took me a few days to figure it out. This is one of the most fucked ways humanity go out by killing themselves trop ever.

See, this wouldn't be a problem if everyone wore sunscreen

@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler

2 ай бұрын

This comment is so underrated 😭

@DevaDragon911

2 ай бұрын

space radiation is no joke

@Weaklytune

Ай бұрын

Lmao

@project5602

18 күн бұрын

sunscreen, sunglasses and tinfoil hats to protect the mind

@BeastyJay1234

5 күн бұрын

Bro, bring a f***ing tube of sunscreen 😂😂😂

I remember when I got onto uni one year ago. I checked my schedule and saw "Universal Literature" on it. I thought "Why am I going to learn literature? I'm gonna be a history teacher, not a literature one". One year later and I'm here, leaning about all those amazing stories I always ignored.

@Vaeldarg

2 ай бұрын

Literature has its own history too. Whether written by Greek philosophers, Victorian poets, Gilded-age journalists, Civil-rights activists, Cold-war propagandists, Space-age futurists, Information-age forum-posters, Modern-age social media memelords, or future A.I generative models.

@kharijordan6426

2 ай бұрын

hey I want to know if you cached this. Did you know the guy who wanted to get off the planet wanted to do so because you knew and knew humans would try and kill him and his family? It took me a few days to figure it out. This is one of the most fucked ways humanity go out by killing themselves trop ever.

@Dachusblot

Ай бұрын

To be honest I learned more about history in my literature classes than in my actual history classes. Literature is a great glimpse into the mindsets and trends of other eras, not to mention the way language evolves over time.

The problem I have with this story isn't the change in the environment, or even the physical change of the humans themselves, but in the lack of care for the things that mattered so much to them before. If there was still a sense of wonder for the stories that the earthlings made, for the beautiful and bizarre things that mattered so much to them, and a desire to find how they can matter to the new culture that the martians develop, then it would be a change I could accept, because the important parts of what made them human would still remain. But with all those things being deemed nothing but clutter, being completely forgotten as if they never mattered to begin with... It's one thing to change. Everyone grows up, after all. But to have never been a child to begin with, even with all the remnants of that childhood around them. The people they were before haven't changed. They died. They were replaced by something that doesn't care, or even know, that they had been something wonderful in the past. They may be something wonderful again, but something deeply important is lost in that transition, and that's not something I could possibly consider a happy ending.

@jessicaclakley3691

2 ай бұрын

Well phrased! I believe that’s the element that makes it “horrific” right? For me, the transitioning and becoming of oneself is a constant element of the human experience, part and parcel of it. So the change isn’t what sends chills down my spine, it’s the idea that I could lose touch with who I once was, that I could forget all that came before, and more so… that I wouldn’t care that I lost it. Now, that’s really chilling to me.

@kotatsu7968

2 ай бұрын

If I understand your positioni correct;y, the horror/discomfort is tied to the humans in the story forgetting who and what they once were. This is something that huamns experience every day, and because they can perceive a continuity between then and now it does not cause alarm. Nobody wakes up in the morning the same person as they were when they went to bed. If an outside observer with no prior knowledge of humans were to look at a human infant and then the same human as an adult,, the observer not knowing that they were the same individual, might conclude that these were two completely different creatures. The adult human has little to no memory of what it was to be an infant, looking upon a new world with new senses, and behaves in entirely different ways than the prior form. The adult might even look down upon other babies from the high hill of their experiences and think of babies as clumsy, ugly, or irritating. This seems natural to us because we understand the context and process of how a baby becomes an adult. The difference here is that these humans undergo the process having already developed minds that can be conscious of the change and remember that they were once something other than they are by the end of the story. We as the reader can see this because we are outisde observers. The humans in the story are not overly concerned because they have lived a continuous existence from where they started to where they ended. It's difficult to find fault in the martians forgetting who they were, since how many humans keep detailed diaries of their daily existence? How much experience is lost to the noise of chaos from one moment to the next? Is that a cause for mourning?

@amberlynightengale8382

2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. I think Harry and the other settlers represent two extremes on a spectrum, and like most moral spectrums, it's best to meet somewhere in the middle. Harry embraces his past by fully rejecting the future, while everyone else embraces the future by fully rejecting the past. The idea that kept coming to my mind was "Remember your past; embrace your future." Your point about being a child and growing up is absolutely correct. I have been many people over the years: a sweet baby, a stubborn toddler, a distractible child, a lovesick teenager. I am none of those people now, but every one of them influenced the person I am today. One day I will cease to be who I am, but who I become will still be created by my past. Change as drastic as this should not be viewed as a death and total rebirth; change should be viewed as an evolution from one point to the next.

@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps

2 ай бұрын

Everything matters. Nothing is "important".

@Ryu_D

2 ай бұрын

@@kotatsu7968 The issue is that the story portrays it as an absolute. The ending of the story shows that they don't remember that they were human. What they are is completely disconnected from what they were. It's one thing to gain a new appreciation for a different way of life. It's quite another to throw out all your favorite things because that's not who you are anymore, and you don't know why you ever thought you were. I'm not a child anymore, but I remember many of the things I loved as a child, and even if I don't love them now, it still matters that they've affected my life. I'm ashamed of some things, proud of others, appreciate different things in different ways, but even when I wake up as a somewhat different person tomorrow, and again the next day, and so on, I'll still have that past behind me, influencing who I am, and who I will become. Now, maybe I'm wrong, and the story just doesn't show the details of how their past still influences their present, even though it does. But without those details, it looks more like their previous selves were replaced, and their brains slowly overwritten with the martian family that they become. With only seeing that much of the story, I can't see it as a happy ending, because neither the earthlings, nor any of the things that made them human, that let them express themselves as people, have survived the transition.

I see it as not only a tragedy, but as outright cosmic horror, if an uncommonly subtle sort.

@coffinmyface4237

2 ай бұрын

It's definitely cosmic, but horror and tragedy? I personally disagree, harry describes it as blissful, while sad to those of the past this is just what our species does as we grow, what have you abandoned that the you of 7 years ago loved dearly? While far more dramatic, in reality it's just the aging and growth everyone of our species goes through.

@robertsteinbach7325

Ай бұрын

I feel it is a metaphor for what is happening now in the world. Some of us want to change to fit the changing world and others are determined to not only keep themselves in the 1950s, but to keep everybody else in the 1950s as well. More like freedom for me but not for thee. The ones fighting change can't stand it when change around them and others choose change around them therefore they feel that the choice of others impacts them and they say that they are being "forced to accept the change". This is how the justify enforcing their views on others.

@coffinmyface4237

Ай бұрын

@@robertsteinbach7325 this was written in 1949, your interpretation is outright false, youre free to take it as that, just know that youre wrong

@blarg2429

21 күн бұрын

@@coffinmyface4237 The dates may be off, but do you believe that 1940s America and 1950s America were so very different in this sense? When it comes to the zeitgeist of a whole culture, rapid change is a somewhat rare thing, is all I'm saying. And people who are trying to turn back the clock are never too discerning about what their ideal historical moment was actually like, either.

When Bradbury wrote this story in 1949, it was a time of very rapid change in the world. He reflected the uncertainty about change in the best way that science fiction can: by setting the problem in another world. I highly recommend Bradbury's "The Martian Chronicles" as well. I remember reading his short story "And There Will Come Soft Rains" (later included in The Martian Chronicles) in high school and being profoundly affected by it. Later on, I was fortunate to find a very nice copy of The Martian Chronicles in a second-hand bookshop. Ray Bradbury is definitely an author well worth checking out. Thank you for this analysis of "Dark They Were, And Golden-Eyed". I truly enjoyed it.

@Redfern42

2 ай бұрын

I can't recall, was this story part of the "Martian Chronicles" collection? I definitely remember "There Will Come Soft Rains" as it was a reading assignment in high school (77-81 for me). My school actually offered a semester of science fiction literature, but when I started it was only for, maybe the 11th and 12th graders. By the time I reached those grades, that class was dropped from the curriculum.

@michaelcherry8952

2 ай бұрын

@@Redfern42 I was in high school around the same time (1975-1978). "And There Will Come Soft Rains" was in one our short story textbooks, but we unfortunately did not have a specific class for science fiction literature. I just dug out my copy of The Martian Chronicles and "Dark They Were And Golden-Eyed" was not in the collection. Bradbury wrote a lot about Mars and I think this story predates the ones that were eventually collected into The Martian Chronicles. Guess I'll be looking for more Ray Bradbury collections!😁 Not a bad thing at all to have on my bookshelves. I wonder why the science fiction literature class was dropped in your school? Given the time period, perhaps the stories were hitting a little too close to home!😟

@Redfern42

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelcherry8952Why was the class cancelled? In some ways, I'm astonished it even existed given I went to high school in south Georgia, arguably slap dab in the buckle of the "Bible Belt", so to speak. As this was nearly 4 and a half decades ago, I can't remember exact events. It may have been an "elective" (that still existed) but one that had a conflicting time slot with a required class by the time I reached that grade. That seems to ring some bells on the cusp of my conscience mind, but again, I can't be certain. Hmm, the more I think about it, the course may have been slotted against a mandatory "American Literature" class. Thankfully, I enjoyed the Am' Lit semester, too. Taught me the basics of the "5 paragraph" essay which gave me a "leg up" when took a particular lit course in my freshman year of college.

@iananelson8256

2 ай бұрын

@@Redfern42 it wasn't included in The Martian Chronicles but as I was listening I was having a Mandala Effect moment where I was sure I had read this story in that collection. According to Wikipedia it was in "S is for Space" and a couple of other places.

@mildlymarvelous

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation! I have a collection of Bradbury’s short stories that is one of my favorite sci-fi books!

This may be a wild take but I feel like this is a story about war and xenophobia. The humans down on Earth were being consumed by their fear for each other, their fear for being changed by and into each other. They came to Mars with those fears, and it was only by letting go of them, represented by literally letting go of their human possessions and embracing a culture completely foreign to them, that they were able to achieve happiness

@bea7823

2 ай бұрын

I don’t know if it’s that wild a take, because I felt the same way watching the video.

@badger273

2 ай бұрын

@@bea7823 idk, I just never know how on-the-mark I am or how people are going to take my interpretations, so I just always like to make it clear that they *are* just my interpretations. But yeah judging by the fact that TF even hearted this it's probably a pretty modest take lol

@kharijordan6426

2 ай бұрын

Cool

@catpoke9557

Ай бұрын

It definitely seems to be about acceptance of change. The only reason the change was ever a bad thing was purely because Harry made it out to be as such. He was the only one suffering as a result of it, and all that suffering was purely because of how he perceived it.

This story has pretty clear parallels to cultural assimilation in the real world. You see the younger generations slowly losing their old way of life, instead adapting to the new world they live in, losing their language, customs, and beliefs. Though I don't think the new generations aren't doing anything wrong on a personal level, it is deeply melancholic seeing how many unique cultures and languages have been lost to time.

I'm so used to 1950's ideal American suburbia being a setting for horror that I was actually relieved when you revealed the twist in the intro lol!

I feel this story is horror because the chance in the humans were outside their consent/control. I enjoy post-Humanism Sci-fi, but mostly when is a "cyberpunk type" where the change is voluntary.

@ToxicBastard

2 ай бұрын

For real. It's skin crawling but intriguing.

I feel like why we found this disturbing is because it's like a betrayal from what you were before, its a betrayal to being human. Because why could you just let your past self go?

@ToxicBastard

2 ай бұрын

It's like a kind of soft death, like becoming a zombie.

@berserker5551

Ай бұрын

To keep living

@berserker5551

Ай бұрын

@@ToxicBastardnah, if ur a zombie ur already dead

Really like this one because it understands the fear that change can bring, but by having an ultimately benevolent ending it tries to comfort. I can't say EVERY change is always good. Some times resistance is warranted. But so many fears about change are nothing more than uncertainty.

How we end is a question nobody wants to think about, and yet, it seems it's the question we can't help but ask over and over 😟

@vladyvhv9579

2 ай бұрын

Another question here though, is "Is this really an end?".

@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong

2 ай бұрын

global warming. it's global warming, that's the answer

@alanabyss9246

2 ай бұрын

We’re gonna end up like the humans in Wall-e

@diegolopesme

2 ай бұрын

nope global warming will never end humanity@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong

@orekihoutarou6107

2 ай бұрын

​@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Artificial Intelligence, Nukes, and Bioweapons are possible options as well. On the other hand, the advancement of those technologies can help the Climate. Artificial Intelligence is increasing productivity, Nuclear power is a good alternative power source, and artificial photosynthesis is in development.

18:05 The whole video could be summed up with a question I was often asked when I was a child, "If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you?" Statistically speaking, the majority are usually correct, but there are many historical examples of when the same group was wrong.

I understand that the original ‘I Am Legend’ (which I’ve not read) explores similar themes; the last remaining human on earth comes to realize that in this new world… _HE_ Is the Monster.

This is a good tale about what really matters in life. Your food, looks, belongings, location, and even your thoughts, can all change, even drastically, but as long as you're happy with the people you love, even if they've changed, it's okay. As long as you have food, even if you don't recognize it, some belongings, even if they're not what you once had. Does it matter to "be human?" Is being human so cut and dry? Maybe that ability to adapt, to love, to think, and reason is more important than some superficial bond you might feel to your physical identity. This doesn't feel like the end of humanity, just another branching path that it takes to survive in the face of overwhelming change, which is a large part of what it means to "be human" to me.

@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps

2 ай бұрын

Everything matters. Nothing is "important".

@toddberkely6791

2 ай бұрын

One thing it glossed over is that in the reality of radical change, you can lose even your friends and family. Of course, you can find new friends and start a new family but nothing really makes up for that loss.

Very thought provoking - it put me in mind of an ex-pat, living in the 'us' section of the quaint seaside village of their sunny retirement life, going to the 'us' bar and the 'us' restaurant; never learning the local language, local customs - until their child meets a partner and the worlds have to collide. How the world opens. How the nuances are better understood. Even trying new foods, new clothes, new experiences... No, I didn't see a horror story either but understand how it can be seen that way, fear and unknowing are hard forces to overcome - maybe just succumbing to it isn't the best idea tho lol

@jessicaclakley3691

2 ай бұрын

Well put! I was struck by the final discussion and its broader application to cultural shifts occurring today. I was reminded more of my parents generation’s general distaste for discussions on identity (this is an over generalization and by no means am I saying that all older ppl do) Your “ex-pat” example illustrates this idea further by applying it in a broader cultural context.

@DarthBiomech

2 ай бұрын

I'll never understand that, honestly. Imagine escaping your old country... to just bring what you've been escaping from with you into the new home that you've supposedly chose because you like it there better.

@christinearmington

2 ай бұрын

Well, their money goes further anyway. 🤷‍♀️

@rustyjones7908

2 ай бұрын

That's the vibe I got

Bradbury's short story 'All Summer In A Day' was included in our English text books in 6/7th grade in school. It's really cool to see one of his other works here

My problem with the story as it is told here is less about the concept of change, but instead the lost history. They forget they were once human, and with it, loose sight of the culture that would let them communicate. The cycle wouldnt be so scary if there was a guiding hand or diplomacy. When the anomoly becomes a known science, then the choice can be made consciously compared to the subtle "corruption" of self that gives the story its horror elements. Acknowledging "i was once human, but now i am not."... I dont know, that just feels less like a loss of self and more an acknowledgement of the change.

Bradbury is truly one of the greatest, with his stories running the gamut between sci-fi, fantasy and blood-freezing horror. That's why many of his stories were adapted to the EC horror comics (Tales from the Crypt, etc.).

I've been Reading "Farenheit 451" for a while already, and I completely cut off guard when you said *"Ray Bradbury."* I can't believe I couldn't see it!!!!!

When I saw the thumbnail, i was expecting you guys to be covering SCP - 001: When Day Breaks. However, you covering a Ray Bradbury short story was not only a surprise, it was even more enjoyable than what I was expecting. You're very right about how haunting this story is despite it ending on a seemingly happy note. What I find about the ending is how tragic it is on a human level with the main character, his family, and every other survivor forgetting their past humanity. It's a bit hard to describe, but if I had to put it into words it would be this; it's right for us to embrace change. Everything changes on some level, whether it be on an individual level, a generational level or upon billions of years, and to fight that will always be a losing battle. However, to dismiss the past when that change comes strips away a fundamental part of ourselves. To distance ourselves from where we come from and the potential for how we can learn and grow from it, we might as well be a completely different species altogether. Onions, but not onions. Humans, but not humans.

just an open question, has Tale Foundry covered Flowers for Algernon? That story eats my soul every time...

Not accepting change is what makes people hateful and bitter. We should strive to never forget our pasts, while still being open to the future and change. If they hadn’t forgotten what it was like to be human, I would say this story was almost uplifting. But forgetting who they once were is what makes it sad.

The problem isn't that they changed, but rather that they lost aspects of themselves in the process. Becoming tall, having random words added to their vocabulary, deciding they feel more comfortable outside of the settlement they had created initially? All fine. But they've forgotten the importance of their art, forgotten that the human settlement wasn't originally so warped, forgotten they were ever human to begin with. _These_ are substantial losses, and should be mourned.

@gamers-xh3uc

2 ай бұрын

Not really thats what evolution is like humans going from apes, do we have to mourn we are not in trees anymore?

@ShadwSonic

2 ай бұрын

@gamers-xh3uc 1. Evolution isn't actually a thing. There are far too many incongruities between what we observe and what we'd need to be observing for it to be anything other than a failed hypothesis. 2. We make treehouses, our kids climb trees, our adults climb mountains... can you really say we "lost" anything even if evolution was true?

@0XBlondie96X0

2 ай бұрын

​@gamers-xh3uc Evolution doesn't happen anywhere near as rapidly as the changes in the story. It happens so slowly and gradually that thousands of years can pass without much, if any, change to the genome of a species. The story features changes happening to specific individuals within the course of mere months-- change so drastic that the individuals in question don't even remember how they once were, or what was important to them. I don't think the two are comparable. No human had ever been an ape, but these Martians, not too long ago, used to be humans.

@ShadwSonic

2 ай бұрын

@@0XBlondie96X0 Nah, that doesn't track. Most of the fossils we'd be finding would be "transitional" if that were true, but we haven't even found ONE that's uncontested.

@TheOneWayDown

2 ай бұрын

​@ShadwSonic that's the problem. Every fossil is "transitional." The point of the theory of evolution is that everything is constantly undergoing it at an imperceptibly slow pace

This channel was actually a inspiration to make my own books

@maxwell8758

2 ай бұрын

Cool! Good for you! Don’t give up!

@SmollRuby

2 ай бұрын

@@maxwell8758 ty

You are the best creator on youtube tysm💜

Sometimes change is good but sometimes it isn't

@Solstice261

2 ай бұрын

Change is change, whether it is good or bad is completely reliant on the subjective perspective of the person judging it, we do not like thinking about our future because we are inherently more tied to our present, any divergence from that may seem alien, that in no way means bad, we have seen species change disappear be discovered a new yet the main thing pointing out wether they are good or bad changes is how close it brings the situation to what we are familiar with. At least that's how I see it

@CorbinLeonard-rp4et

2 ай бұрын

@@Solstice261 true

@addison_v_ertisement1678

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone knows.

@Alyrael

2 ай бұрын

@@Solstice261 That's just hard cope. A change to have developed a thicker circulatory system that's prone to clogging is not a good thing, no matter what perspective you're looking at it from.

@Solstice261

2 ай бұрын

@@Alyrael change in the way this video is portraying it, isn't. I wouldn't call an illness change but hey whatever, however try not to start accusing someone of coping, I did clarify it was my opinion didn't I

I imagine there had to be at least one artist of the travelers who found a cave and started painting the walls as we did ages ago, depicting how they got there and what happened. They still might call it a mystery, like with what happened in Roanoke. A colony was established then everybody vanished, according to the founder. The settlers literally left a note, the name of the local Indigenous tribe.

The thumbnail of this video is officially the creepiest thumbnail Tale Foundry has ever made

@ChristianHernandez-yt

2 ай бұрын

Facts. Very bold of them.

@ToxicBastard

2 ай бұрын

I think the death magic one is the most creepy overall.

I kind of felt an opposite message. Mars is another planet and another culture. Everyone was adapting to their new environments while Harry was feverishly holding on to the ideals he brought from home. When he learned to let go of them and live like the Martians did, he became happy. Change is scary, but its not evil.

@robertsanders4575

2 ай бұрын

Change is natural, but not all changes are good. There's a difference between assimilating to a new culture and a collective amnesia while you and everyone you know is reprogrammed both physically and mentally - to the point where they despite what they were and what they were from. In this story, humanity is gone and - for now - some combination of what's left of humanity and martians live. Ignorance may be bliss, but knowledge is power.

@The-Busy-Beeeee

2 ай бұрын

@@robertsanders4575I see it more of a growing process similar to how we all thought we were so cringey when we were younger or how artists have a journey if progress

@ToxicBastard

2 ай бұрын

Losing your culture and identity sounds horrible, idk about you.

@Vaeldarg

2 ай бұрын

@@ToxicBastard Depends on what that cultural identity was. Just ask the Germans. Now they're horrified where they see it making a return.

@oldskoolaspie

2 ай бұрын

@@ToxicBastard Having it be something you didn't want and can't control is pretty horrible. Being conquered and colonized is the ultimate IRL example of this. This story treats the involuntary loss of identity like a good thing, which it most certainly is not.

This has become my favourite channel. Who would've thought a robot telling me about human stories could be so compelling. Great channel, keep it up

congrats, you have won the "Most Unsettling Thumbnail" award of the day.

Why is the intro always so pretty? I've seen it plenty of times but is always so amazing to look at! Also, always love the stories you cover in these videos. I want Nevbula T_T

"All things change in a dynamic environment. Your desire to remain as you are is what limits you." -Ghost in the Shell

@oldskoolaspie

2 ай бұрын

I would like to change as and when I please, as much as is possible.

I think this relies on a simplistic idea of what being human means. At it's root, being human is simply about your genetic heritage, which is subject to constant and evolved additions. Having an increased or altered melanin production, lengthened and skinnier bones and a jaundice-like eye pigmentation is not a disqualifier.

@finaldusk1821

2 ай бұрын

Honestly, strange as it is, the gradual physical adaptation to a new world doesn't bother me at all. However I'd argue being human isn't about genetics, it's our experiences and memories, our 'mental heritage' for lack of a better term. And it's one thing to move from old ideas to new ones, but to forget that you ever liked those old ideas and can't understand why you ever did? When the Martians didn't remember that they were once Earthlings or why they would ever want to be, THAT was downright tragic to me.

the twilight zone episode is gonna be good

Kinda feel like your closing thoughts grossly downplayed the scariest thing. By the end of it they don't remember they where human. They act as though those houses where made by someone else. That is not just a replacement of the human form. It's not a choice. The planet just takes you. The cosmic horror of warping the human mind like that is genuinely scary. It's not just the loss of self on a physical level, but the the genuine loss of the self. No agency. You belong to Mars now. Have always belonged to Mars. It determines now what you are, and what you think.

That has been one of the most intelligent ways I've ever seen the idea of extinction explored. It does not necessarily mean total death, but simply forgetting what once was.

Related to the human extinction bit-- millennia after humans are long gone from this world, if another intelligent species were to dig up a fossil record of the planet, they would know us from a thin layer of plastic/petrochemicals in that record. In a sad way, that is the monument we made to our existence that can stand the test of time.

Best episode i seen yet! The stoeytelling was just AWESOME! Thanks!

Just discovered your amazing job right now. I'm grateful for i have the opportunity of watching all the videos for the first time.

I like this brand of horror. This could have easily turned into a message about GMOs or something, but you couldn’t exactly say the ending was bad. I wonder if this story would be considered a cure of culture shock if you look past the creepiness? It’s creepy they mentally and physically changed against their will but this was a small price to pay for survival

This was actually required reading for my eighth grade english class. I remember this story fondly as one of the best required readings.

I do agree with your sentiment of which side you’re willing to be on any particular situation. I do value in fighting for your core beliefs and principles but at the same time I can see the daunting task that is as well. Who is right, and who is wrong is only met with time as a measurement.

I absolutely loved this story growing up! Great work as always!

I remember reading this story in school. For some reason, it always stuck with me. I'm especially reminded of it recently, watching older politicians and business-owners holding onto 20th-century practices and policies that don't even make sense in the 21st century. I really do feel like humanity is entering a new chapter of history, and that our progress is being slowed by people resisting change for its own sake.

@def3ndr887

2 ай бұрын

Quite the dilemma, the old too obstinate and set in their ways, and the new seeking to overtake the old but seems no better than what came before.

Humanity's modular metabolisms undergoing chimeric mutations depending on their surroundings is one of my deepest passionate hopes for our idea of species. I always felt comfort in the idea that our bodies will adapt regardless of how dismal, excessive, hellish or heavenly our surroundings are. I definitely feel the beauty of how humanity dissolves, with a change of world. There is a cynical part of me that our idea of humanity can be a burden, only preserved by collective fictions like myths and religious philosophy. I hope our species can truly evolve and thrive, as far and distanced from what we are now.

Your channel is phenomenal and to have such creative professional content week in week out and still be under 1 mil subs?! Crazy! Well done squire

Amazing stuff man, keep up the good work.

4:58 "He just can't quite put his finger on it yet." That makes sense because he has robotic arms and therefore doesn't have fingers.

Ahh good old *Dark They Were, And Golden-Eyed* by Ray Bradbury. I remember reading this back in like... Middle school? Somewhere around there. And I adored it! The slow creep of horror that the humans as well as everything they brought from Earth are changing into something distinctly non-human and than watching as that horror turns into innocent ignorance as the changed humans forget about Earth and that low-laying knowledge that we the audience now have anyone that ends up on Mars ends up becoming a Martian in the end is just so lovely.

Amazing story! It reminds me a little of The Colour Out of Space by Lovecraft. And your voice is perfect for it. I often listen to your videos before I go to sleep 😊

Endermen from Minecraft in a nutshell

@comentaristametaforico9287

2 ай бұрын

"Hey guys, I think our fruits are starting to look different." "Nah, it's just your mind, Steve." *teleports away

This was a surprising blast from my past. We had to read this in school back when i was around 14. Looking back on it, this video is way more informative than that lesson was.

I think it'd be less unsettling if they didn't lose whi they were. The changing of language and talking about the "earth people" as though it wasn't them sounds less like change and more like who they are being overwritten by something else. If it was a purely physical change which led to their culture shifting naturally then i think that'd be less foreboding

@Antasma1

2 ай бұрын

I agree. Otherwise, it just feels like a small price to pay to eat the food and maybe experience new culture

The most horrific part of this whole thing is the video cover especially when you’re watching videos while it’s dark outside

your voice is so perfect for storytelling! i feel horrified and existential. Familiarity is nice afterall, it’s difficult when change is fast and things are lost

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS STORY!!! My Sixth grade teacher would play old radio shows on tape for us! I couldn't find this story again! I am so glad you covered this! Thank You!

Soooo close to 1 million subs! Go Tale Foundry!!!

As Saw Garrera said when encountered the Bad Batch for the first time: You either adapted and survived or died with the past. So what should we choose here? Of course, learning from the past is still important. Very important, in fact!

@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps

2 ай бұрын

"Should" is a myth. As is "importance".

@def3ndr887

2 ай бұрын

Contradicting, he says adapt yet he refuses to submit to the emperor.

@ToxicBastard

2 ай бұрын

​@@Mansplainer2099-jy8psWhat about "pretentiousness"?

@ToxicBastard

2 ай бұрын

> We have to adapt > Literally fighting for the alliance to restore the republic

I don't think this is what the author meant but it maps pretty well to people who come into money and their lives change dramatically. At first you keep doing the work you had to do to stay "down to earth" but as time goes on you accept and enjoy the ease of your new life. Eventually, you forget what it was like to not have these things and can't relate to the people who you were once part of. I've only gleaned this from this video. I've never read the story so I could be WAY off base but the way it was presented here works pretty well.

@def3ndr887

2 ай бұрын

Same here, read Fahrenheit 451 though and from the looks of it, it’s similar in that the plot of people not caring about the past and thinking they’re superior to it yet they’re far from it.

Humanity has no choice. We have already changed several times in the past and are continuing to change as we speak. The people who refuse will eventually cause the complete extinction of our world.

"Is changing, really that awful? We all change in some ways over the course of our lives. Humanity isn't our appearances. It's what we DO, that matters."

@oldskoolaspie

2 ай бұрын

It's being changed against your will, fundamentally transformed, that is awful. Loss of one's humanity is legitimate nightmare fuel, yet this story glosses over that.

The second I saw the thumbnail, I knew what this would be about. I remember reading this short story in my middle school English class, and your take on it made me realize things I didn't fully understand at 13 or had forgotten at 30something.

I need more of this!

It was kind of a depressing story of one species dying off and a new one starting off through the bodies and souls of the remaining last species. It was about just accepting a fate that was totally out of their control.

I consider "humanity" to be something other then genetic, it's a mental thing and an emotional thing. Much as there are humans who one wouldn't consider to be human I think there are, or will be, non-humans we would consider human. In other words the martians, despite their changes, I would probably consider to be still human as long as they kept the emotional and mental aspects that make a human.

I like how it’s not a grotesque twist. There’s body dysmorphia and stuff, but it’s really just about the nature of change.

almost at 1 mill keep up the good work

Once again you have proved that you produces are one of or the best videos on KZread

It could probably be a nice little horror game. Reading the desperate diary of the farther as he tries to go home as everyone around him changes. What happened to them would sound monstrous, but was it really that bad

This reminds me about the show Pantheon. It touches on the idea of humanity changing itself.

A new tale foundry video? Yes!

in the end, does it really matter if you are "human", as long as you are a person?

I'm glad I took the time to read "The Martian Chronicles", despite somewhat mixed feelings about the collection of stories overall. "The Martian" was always the most evocative and moving story in it to me. But alas, for every "The Martian", there was an "The Off Season". Bradbury at his best was a brilliant and insightful writer, but consistency isn't a trait I'd attribute to him. Still, this synopses was a lovely reminder of the summer I read the book, took me back to simpler times. Hopefully it will encourage more people to read older sci-fi.

This reminds me of "The Monster" by A. E. van Vogt. Both explore the idea of human change and extinction. Change is just a thing that happens, it is how we react to those changes that make the changes seem either good or bad. The only question I have is what is up with those "Martians" at the end. It almost seems like some kind of possession is going on.

>man gets forcibly changed against his will >people in the comments "that's a good thing actually" Like you guys can't be serious. Changing of cultures and ideas is one thing as it requires a level of acceptance from the person but this isn't an exchange of culture and ideas, these colonists are being forcibly overwritten to not only look like Martians but to think and act like they are Martians. What happens to them is not a good thing and I find it weird that a lot of people think it is.

@MahouKat

2 ай бұрын

To me him being opposed to change at first doesn't mean he's against it forever. It's like aging or moving to a new place and not expecting it to rub off on you. I disagree with the people arguing he wasn't justified to be scared at first, but seeing change as an objectively bad thing isn't to me what this story is trying to put across. As you said yourself, it's an extreme example of change, and that's exactly what culture shock can feel like. Seeing a new way of life can feel like the grass has turned purple; but eventually you get used to the new shade. It's not being "overwritten", it's adapting - just on a very extreme level with this being sci-fi. Again this is just my reading, not trying to "debunk" yours or anything. I appreciate the alt point of view. :)

@NanoScream

2 ай бұрын

@@MahouKat The issue is very much the humans becoming Martians, not just in the way they look but how they think and act. If it was just the humans adapting to the environment it would cause physical changes sure but not psychological changes. The flora and cow also get changed, the cow with a third horn and the roses turning green and a change in Harry's peach blossom tree, you can't say these are environmental adaptations (because why would a cow grow a third horn?). And how do the Bitterings know Martian language if it's them just adapting to the environment? The way that the short story is written does make it look like there is something changing, something actively rewiring, the colonists to think like this and to become Martian. To continue on cultures, you can be a part of a new culture while still being yourself, assimilation doesn't mean changing out your previous culture with the new culture. What the story describes is not normal assimilation where you voluntarily integrate into a new culture while still retaining your previous culture, it describes involuntary assimilation where you are forced into the new culture and your previous culture is thrown away. I'm not saying that change is bad, change happens every day, but what I'm saying is that when you lose your identity in the process that change is not good. It is an insidious evil. Also, the way Harry gets broken down not by the environment but by the other colonists and his family it's very cultish.

@oldskoolaspie

2 ай бұрын

Oh, thank you for saying so!

19:27 Clive Barker's Undying! I was like 19 or something like that when I played it. Friggen brilliant.

First time viewer here. While watching this video I couldn’t stop thinking about Ray Bradbury. I never stopped long enough to actually consider the implications of that; it was just a fleeting thought that kept popping up in my mind. It’s incredibly satisfying to know Bradbury was the author. Really cool thing you’ve got going on here. I love the intro. Animation is awesome. I think I’ll stick around for awhile.

This was well done work. What talent! I never read Bradbury’s story, only heard of it.

Apparently earth has a hum (frequency I think) that astronauts have reportedly stated they can feel that something is missing and a feeling of dread.

This a Ray Bradbury story called "Dark They Were, and Golden Eyed" with a different twist. Great "re-telling". Loved it

I think that's quite a fallacious conclusion. It's not just about whether or not change is good or bad/should be embrasssed or fought. That would only make sense if there was a clear continuity of individuality. Without that, since the person on whom the change was made is not there anymore to appreciate it, it is similar to a slow conscious death of the self. That's what makes it eery/hard to swallow. It's not simply being hesitant to embrace a new piece of technology. It is seeing said technology physically replace you by someone else not even pretending to be you. The you that was there doesn't exist anymore to be happy or sad about it. So yeah, I fundamentally disagree with the conclusion of this video. 🤷🏿 Good story anyway! 👌🏿✨

Tale Foundry never fails to bring us great videos!👍 😊

This channel is insanely underrated

you should make a video about "all tomorrows" by C.M. Kosemen. Its an absolutley amazing exploration of evolutionary horror/what it means to be human.

We read this in my middle school english class and eversince the story has enraptured me, genuinely amazing tale.

Reminds me of a book (don’t quite remember it, maybe John Dies at The End?) where they said that if you were truly possesed by another entity you wouldn’t fear it or try to fight it because you would already be someone elso who feels calm and maybe even excited about the change

The music goes perfectly with Bradbury's eery storytelling!

reminds me a lot of All Tomorrows in the way that, even tho they are different, that they have evolved to the point where they are unrecognizable... they ARE still humans in a way. You may change a lot throughout your life but you will always keep being you no matter what.

I remember reading this when I was in middle school! It always stuck with me in the back of my mind

I remember this story. It was unsettling back in the day.

I love your stuff its the best hope you all of you have the greatest day ❤😊