HUMAN & NAMEKIAN GOD FORMS!? - Buffing the Z-Fighters

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Nowadays, the non-Saiyan protagonists are often left in the dust, in terms of story relevance and power. They are at a natural disadvantage with their lack of alien DNA and transformations, so how could we empower the Dragon Team's other members? Let's see what we can do to buff them!
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  • @darthrevan2455
    @darthrevan24554 жыл бұрын

    I think Piccolo stays on Earth because he’s still trying to get a driver’s license

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere4 жыл бұрын

    I'm kinda sick of the Saiyan dominance at times. I want to see piccolo get the spotlight for once again

  • @zueonfishykk1958

    @zueonfishykk1958

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Martell Sincere yeh hopefully they give him “ awakened “ where he gets like white eyes.

  • @hubiejr1369

    @hubiejr1369

    4 жыл бұрын

    i want to see a human be powerful for once

  • @faust8972

    @faust8972

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @user-zu7ou3rw6v

    @user-zu7ou3rw6v

    3 жыл бұрын

    eh tbh i agree partly because the thing is for me humans in anime just bore me so it’s not they aren’t strong it’s just they don’t click with my interest so i don’t mind sayians be stronger the humans plus by biological side of things sayians are superior then humans, and as for nemakians i don’t find them interesting either as their ok i guess for anyone who likes them but for me personally i just don’t find them interesting and they still don’t click with my interest either as for freeza’s race they interest me because of how they work like their benefits such as more superior survival capabilities and the transformations are more unique then sayian transformation except ssj 3,4, and ssg which are pretty unique in their own sayian way, and as for other races like majin race and whatever race cell is they don’t peak my interest as for what they are but cell was different and more unique then the rest as he wasn’t born with what he had but instead made to be something granted though his personality was just eh like cell lacked uniqueness as all his personality was is destroy, fight, and repeat.

  • @lowell1648

    @lowell1648

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hubiejr1369 Yeah same

  • @Viberaterz
    @Viberaterz4 жыл бұрын

    All the humans with Ultra Instinct is crazy, but I don’t feel Roshi with Ultra Instinct is that crazy. He’s been practicing martial arts for hundreds of years, I think it’s a little surprising he doesn’t already have access to it

  • @talonwolf4415

    @talonwolf4415

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nick T Agreed heck ultra instinct is inspired by a state some real martial artists can acquire over countless years of training known as mushin no shin or the flow so someone who’s hundreds of years old should probably be able to use it no problem.

  • @ijusmix2585

    @ijusmix2585

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea I agree but that would make UI or ever Ui omen not special

  • @synchro4452

    @synchro4452

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nick T I feel that the strain of UI will tear apart Roshi

  • @freezingfire1800

    @freezingfire1800

    4 жыл бұрын

    He actually kinda used it in the manga with that many side effects

  • @nosauceorbrothchild8772

    @nosauceorbrothchild8772

    4 жыл бұрын

    I disagree.

  • @GigaPK
    @GigaPK4 жыл бұрын

    I have an idea for a powerup for Tenshinhan. From the Daizenshuu, it says “"In certain parts of Asia, beings with a third eye on their forehead are thought to be godlike and are said to possess the power of true seeing. It seems that Tenshinhan, who was raised by the evil Tsuru-Sen'nin [Crane Hermit], lost the ability to use the myriad powers of his third eye for good purposes." How about the third eye people naturally are attuned to god ki with their enlightenment and Tenshinhan by purifying his heart, can get a god form that is almost on the level of super Saiyan blue evolution (in the anime) or mastered super Saiyan blue (in the manga), but has the myriad of powers that makes it way more versatile.

  • @CertifiedGhxsty

    @CertifiedGhxsty

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, this idea is too much. Tenshinahn with a god form that took Vegeta fighting in the tournament of power to unlock? That's way too crazy, Tenshinhan would be way too op, and most people don't really care about him. He would be automatically comparable to Vegeta, who had way more struggles and losses than Tenshinhan has had. Tenshinhan should only have a form a little below Super Saiyan God. That's just my opinion, you are entitled to your own opinion.

  • @Captain_Cosmic.

    @Captain_Cosmic.

    2 жыл бұрын

    In all honesty, Tien should've already unlocked his eye by now. Because he kept his body when he died, which means he's a good person.

  • @ProjektTaku

    @ProjektTaku

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think he should just have a god form equal to ssjg.

  • @idostuff6179

    @idostuff6179

    Жыл бұрын

    He could unlock some ability where he can see a small bit into the future to see attacks coming before they hit him.

  • @Eminster

    @Eminster

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CertifiedGhxsty good bc your opinion is butt cheeks

  • @LordYamcha
    @LordYamcha4 жыл бұрын

    Yess Humans and Namekians with God Ki- it makes sense now imagine Human God Ki with Kaioken

  • @uub690

    @uub690

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lord Yamcha what about buu though he needs a form

  • @hit5213

    @hit5213

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe Ultimate Form with God Ki.

  • @LordYamcha

    @LordYamcha

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@uub690 honestly speaking he really doesn't we see in Super Manga that Super Buu is the essence of Grand Supreme Kai's God Ki not to mention Buu lost weight and rivalled Blue Goku

  • @uub690

    @uub690

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lord Yamcha that is true sad thing is that everytime he does something cool or important he falls asleep

  • @dummydumb4880

    @dummydumb4880

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yamcha already has ultra instinct and god ki he wasn't in the tournament of power because goku knew it would have been unfair to the other universes

  • @mastrblastr8662
    @mastrblastr86623 жыл бұрын

    Surprised the Earthlings never got their own subset of transformations or power-up techniques. I can really see something like that happening. Hell, two of them do have techniques, being Tien's Four Witches and Roshi's Max Power form. Krillin could easily adapt the Max Power form from Roshi given his expertise, and while it is kind of ridiculous, I could totally see Yamcha getting some sort of form similar to Dyspo's Light Speed mode.

  • @CountDVB

    @CountDVB

    Жыл бұрын

    Roshi's Max Power form is because of his age though. It's based off the concept of qigong and preserving the energy in your youth for old age. Like we see Lao G over in One Piece.

  • @rakaydosdraj8405

    @rakaydosdraj8405

    Жыл бұрын

    How is Roshi's Max power form different from the bunk-out form trunks tried and failed on Semiperfect cell? It DOES massively increase power, but at a cost to speed.

  • @ten10_ten10

    @ten10_ten10

    Жыл бұрын

    Krillin has "No Ego Zone", which from what I've read is basically just perfect ki control. It wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say Krillin could stay in this form forever, so long as he trained himself to be perfect-er and doesn't run out of ki.

  • @loganwilson4625

    @loganwilson4625

    4 ай бұрын

    When I was younger I always wanted humans to have a unique form so that the hybrids would have a unique form between just those few characters. Like being able to combine Super Sayian and those human form

  • @gio1628
    @gio16284 жыл бұрын

    You could have also mentioned training with the Yardrats to learn Spirit Control, we saw the boost that Vegeta had, it was to the point where even he was surprised by shooting a beam that big. Plus the humans could learn things that they wouldn’t have such as regeneration, cloning, gigantification, etc. and while they technically have cloning, this time they may not have to split their ki

  • @sweatybetty1776

    @sweatybetty1776

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thats a good idea, it would also help in a pinch if goku and vegeta were unaware of an attack that they could just instant transmission and tell them about it, would have made resurrection f a little easier

  • @gio1628

    @gio1628

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rafael Ferreira exactly, Goku quite literally kept this to himself, imagine had he decided to tell the Z-Fighters about this after Trunks beat Frieza and Cold. That’s three years that they could have trained in Yardrat where everyone would have benefited the most. Goku could have had better mastery of Instant Transmission and become WAY stronger. Its sad to see an opportunity wasted like that though

  • @Darkcloudalpha

    @Darkcloudalpha

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let's not forget Goku was lazy, there are a ton of techniques you can learn based on Spirit Control and you could even have the Z Fighters create their own unique techniques.

  • @gio1628

    @gio1628

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Pixel Smile I mean its not that it’s underutilized, its that the only two characters that have it as of right now is Vegeta and Goku and Goku only knows a portion of it while Vegeta knows a bit more but not a lot more. But the ithers can benefit more out of Spirit Control with the regeneration property and cloning and giant form and a lot more. Hell Piccolo with Spirit Control could better himself by applying Spirit Control into his giant form and regeneration.

  • @gio1628

    @gio1628

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Pixel Smile I mean I just feel like the characters don't really have much of an affinity to magic anyway because their main focus is fighting. Not saying that magic is bad since Moro proved to show that magic is op as all hell but I am saying that the others probably don't have much interest in gaining Ultra Instinct.

  • @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292
    @quandarioustoddricioushorn92924 жыл бұрын

    I can just imagine krillin. While he is staking god like human, kaioken times 100, and mystic.

  • @cavaleirot

    @cavaleirot

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is enough that the human Z warriors, and also Namekuseijins wish to have an artificial zenkai with the Dragon Balls, seize the kaioken and Genki Dama / Spiritual Bomb, with the Genki Dama / Bomba the Z warriors will be able to unlock the Higher Instinct, and whoever knows the Divine Ki.

  • @ArikaManipulation

    @ArikaManipulation

    4 жыл бұрын

    That 20 Years ago got me

  • @ThatOneMotherfucker

    @ThatOneMotherfucker

    4 жыл бұрын

    Congrats, your Krillin evolved into Saitama

  • @crackhead2210

    @crackhead2210

    4 жыл бұрын

    That One Motherfucker good one 👏🏽

  • @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292

    @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ArikaManipulation lol

  • @ThatOneMotherfucker
    @ThatOneMotherfucker4 жыл бұрын

    Dude, you forgot Devilman and his Devilmite Beam. Technically with his power, he can take out Freiza, Cell and Buu because his Devilmite Beam intensifies the evil within someone's heart and makes them explode.

  • @papaofthejohns5882

    @papaofthejohns5882

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yesssss, I always loved him and thought he was awesome... Wait a minute all the champions Fortune Teller Baba brought back for that day were evil... but evil people’s souls are purged and you need to be on very good terms with Yenma to even be considered of being revived for a day

  • @ziongamer6905

    @ziongamer6905

    4 жыл бұрын

    Papa Of The Johns That’s what bothered me with friezas resurrection

  • @nathanlamont9920

    @nathanlamont9920

    4 жыл бұрын

    Buu and Cell would simply regenerate. Buu can regenerate from molecules and Cell as long as a single cell is standing.

  • @papaofthejohns5882

    @papaofthejohns5882

    4 жыл бұрын

    ZionGamer Honestly, the inconsistencies and lack of coherency in Dragon Ball drives me insane. From a writing standpoint it is objectively terrible (Z, GT and Super that is). But I still love the series, if I did not watch OG Dragon Ball I probably wouldn’t have the same affection for it.

  • @ziongamer6905

    @ziongamer6905

    4 жыл бұрын

    Papa Of The Johns oh so true. At this point we all just ignore them so we can try to enjoy the story. Honestly, that’s not the most fun way to binge a series.

  • @kelmacett2456
    @kelmacett24564 жыл бұрын

    The Z Fighters Revival Arc (aka bored during Covid-19 arc). - Happens after yet another arc where Goku/Vegeta shine and these guys get trodden on for comedic value. Each Z fighter in their private moments questions their ineptitude and their inability to get a decent story or power ups in this show. They each take different paths in order to try to get out of this Saiyan Fanboy Hellhole. Chiaotzu - Uses Telepathy to read the minds of Krillin/Gohan and Goku/Vegeta to learn a new ability Stop Time by studying their memories during their fights with Guldo and Hit. This way he could always stop time and skip out of town when GoVeg are around. Krillin - Visits Master Roshi who gives him the secret to his long life, Krillin wants to be able to live longer alongside his wife 18, he does the deed and then proceeds to train in the RoST to train up. All because at least his wife still loves him (eventhough she could snap him in 2) and screw those guys living longer than him and still saving the planet and my wife and kid - not without me they wont. Master Roshi - After a particularly good chill sesh on the couch he has a moment of clarity and realises that he performed a form of Ultra Instinct during the ToP on account of fighting near death constantly at his age. He then proceeds to do mental battle training to eventually recreate the ability. Tien - After sending Piccolo off in search of the Book, Old Kai looks at Tien and says "YOU" and performs the ritual on him instead. Tien gains Ultimate form and in addition to that power increase is now able to clone 100% of himself 2 times. When you fight Tien you will now face 3 of him at full power unless you kill or knock out TIEN PRIME!. Yamcha - Cheats and summons the dragon balls to wish to be as powerful as a Goku. When the wish is done he feels nothing has changed until he realises he has a tail in his pants. Because he is an idiot he rushes over to Bulma's and picks a fight with Vegeta but has the sense of hiding his tail. Vegeta bitchslaps him out of town. After a few weeks in the hospital he realises he is much stronger than before but still nowhere near in Power to even Piccolo or Krillin. But he was a Saiyan now and will get stronger after every battle. BRING ON THE PAIN. Piccolo - Tries to gain the Ultimate form but is told that his fusion is unstable, Piccolo denies this until the Old Kai lists the times Piccolo should've been able to overcome his opponents in the past and failed. The kai directs him to find the Namekian Book of Legends where he can find out how to fix his soul fusion. Piccolo summons Shenron who cant summon the book because it is already present inside Piccolo, he then reveals The Namekian Book of Legend was retained by the Nameless Namekian who kept it safe from evil hands (Slug, Garlic) by imbueing it to his own soul. However after splitting his soul in 2 he lost all knowledge of the book. When Kami merged with Piccolo, he was merging with a Son of King Piccolo-Nail fusion. Knowledge of the Book could not be unified and instead was fragmented amongst the soul shard still present inside Piccolo. In order to fix the problem he seeks help from Roshi sister Baba. She then instructs him on a ritual where he has to open the soul gates inside of him. Each gate will be guarded by Soul Shard Guardian. All you have to do is convince each gate's guardian to open the gate for you otherwise you will be forced to kill the guardian if you do Piccolo will lose that soul shard and will defuse from him into the nether (no reincarnation). Piccolo begins the ritual (floating meditation pose) [switch to Soul Realm view]. He comes upon Nail's Soul Gate and recognises the Namekian Warrior, as he comes up to him however he realises Nail has an M symbol on his forehead, Nail attacks Piccolo [switch back to ritual room] Piccolo is encased in a ball of energy and screams. [Queue to the next few episodes bringing some of the Z fighters (above) into the soul realm to save Piccolo and help him defeat all the Soul Guardians who are Majinised by last Soul Guardian King Piccolo himself whose soul retained the original power and potential of the Nameless Namekian]. As they defeat each soul guardian piccolo doesnt kill them but fuses with them instead. Each fusion he makes anew is a bounding leap in power: first Nail, then Kami and finally King Piccolo. At that moment time stops, lights darken, and a purple/red/blue star [you guys choose] illuminates from Piccolo's eyes, he senses the power surging from him and he knows it to be Hakai/God Ki.

  • @hit5213
    @hit52134 жыл бұрын

    I think the best option is hop into the HTC for 6 minutes each.(Does that translate to 1 day?) and get their Ultimate Form. Then keep up with their training and keep the Ultimate.

  • @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292

    @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292

    4 жыл бұрын

    And also get kaioken n maybe god ki and there ya go. And with training maybe even stack all of these.

  • @hit5213

    @hit5213

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@quandarioustoddricioushorn9292 The reason I said Ultimate is because Ultimate doesn't put strain to your body.

  • @lazardjerkovic2543
    @lazardjerkovic25434 жыл бұрын

    as my favorite character Piccolo needs to be stronger, i mean hi is a been demon king who merged with God and strongest fighter in Namekian race so he need to fuse with really strong Namekian or get God ki (this will make senese cuz hi is part God).....Sorry for bad English

  • @brookerickettson4950

    @brookerickettson4950

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why repeat Goku’s path? I want to see some sort of Demon power up that he needs to gain control of, or it would be a danger to his friends. A great opportunity for call backs and to “ go his own path “ as Gohan and a Vegeta have sought.

  • @AhmedHussain-ju6xd

    @AhmedHussain-ju6xd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brookerickettson4950 I want to ask something, Is demonic ki a thing, Which demons can access? I am a new fan, so I don't know?

  • @idosomethingiguess3680

    @idosomethingiguess3680

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AhmedHussain-ju6xd yeah There Is Demon Ki That People From Demon Realm Like Dabura Can Access.There Is Also Demonic God Ki Which Can Be Used By Demon God.

  • @czempion1212

    @czempion1212

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@idosomethingiguess3680 actually from where do you know that

  • @Super-qr7wm

    @Super-qr7wm

    2 жыл бұрын

    he aint part god kami wasnt god he was really just an over see-er of earth

  • @howdyitssiggy2365
    @howdyitssiggy23654 жыл бұрын

    What if Yamcha receive a transformation that connects to his technique “the wolf fang fist”? I feel like in terms of physical appearance it would look like spiritually wolf armor sort of like how in the movie (path to power) when we see him using the wolf fang fist against Goku, it sort of looked like a phantom wolf. In terms of the name of the transformation, I think it should be named Tamashi fang armor. Thoughts?

  • @YamFRFR

    @YamFRFR

    2 жыл бұрын

    make him look kinda like a ss4 but with wolf stuff like claws

  • @levievil9220

    @levievil9220

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YamFRFR or make him look like a wolf man

  • @theoazuma5372

    @theoazuma5372

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I love it

  • @ailermustbe00

    @ailermustbe00

    Жыл бұрын

    He could train with trio de dangers if he gets their techniques that be cool. they could have the Dende power boost aswell as kaioken aswell.

  • @omnixv
    @omnixv Жыл бұрын

    We got orange piccolo and beast gohan now we need super humans

  • @AxelsAndGears
    @AxelsAndGears Жыл бұрын

    Given the series' roots in Eastern martial arts, I would've liked some sort of "Inner Awakening" form based on enlightenment or spiritual discipline.

  • @TnT_F0X
    @TnT_F0X4 жыл бұрын

    Roshi after having his hidden potential unlocked! - He gains the ability to not be paralyzed by women! wait... Poor Roshi

  • @nathanlamont9920
    @nathanlamont99204 жыл бұрын

    I can see Tien also learning God Ki and becoming a GOD. Just like Piccolo. The rest lack the discipline to get any of the buffs. Rather it is ultimate, God, or UI. Though Krillin should have access to Kaioken.

  • @veryangryboi4128

    @veryangryboi4128

    2 жыл бұрын

    Kaioken damages the body I'm not sure krillin could handle it unless he has god ki

  • @Eminster

    @Eminster

    Жыл бұрын

    What? All of them went through discipline. What are you getting at

  • @namelesssaiyan4022
    @namelesssaiyan40224 жыл бұрын

    Namekian God Piccolo and Demi-God Krillin... love the sound of that

  • @Leonix13
    @Leonix133 жыл бұрын

    Tree of Might fruit, Fusions, Spirit training are all still options.

  • @jacenjustice
    @jacenjustice3 жыл бұрын

    If Saiyajin Pride is a key force in buffing the Saiyajin, I think that Human Determination should be just as strong.

  • @aozorahaou2643

    @aozorahaou2643

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hell most forms of anime media play into the idea it's not just the hidden dark/Demon power beings like Jinchuuriki and Half Demons that give them their true strength, it's the determination of the human heart they inherited from their human parents. You could argue Trunks, Goten, and Gohan could've gotten that determination human boost

  • @felipewadhwani8084
    @felipewadhwani80844 жыл бұрын

    Its about damn time Piccolo and the other Z Fighters get strong. Im tired of the saiyans doing all the work

  • @thomasthecoolkid7228
    @thomasthecoolkid72283 жыл бұрын

    I mean, anime Krillin did get that "No Ego Zone" thing, but that's about it.

  • @96montecarlo1
    @96montecarlo14 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, I don’t like how the Humans were left in the dust either, the Humans have pretty crazy potential as well, after Goku’s Training with Kami he had a power level probably in the 300’s, while when Tien, Yamcha and Krillin Trained with Kami, they had gotten power levels easily over 1,000, then when Goku Trained with King Kai, he was over 8,000, yes, I’m aware this isn’t canon, but I feel it’s still worth noting, after Tien and Yamcha Trained with King Kai, Yamcha beat Recoome whom had a power level of 40,000, while Tien beat both Burter and Jeice at the same time who are each at least Recoome Level, as for buffs, i would have the Humans Train with Whis and get God Ki to power up their Base quite a bit, then Elder Kai can do the ritual on Tien, Yamcha and Krillin and each can get their Ultimate form, then Goku or King Kai can teach each Kaioken, with enough training, the Humans could push it up to x20, x50 and even x100, imagine Tien, Yamcha and Krillin with God Ki + Ultimate Form + Kaioken x20/x50/x100 all stacked on, all 3 Buffs actually exist and are obtainable by everyone

  • @xmpxkye6290

    @xmpxkye6290

    4 жыл бұрын

    96montecarlo1 like your thinking 💭

  • @96montecarlo1

    @96montecarlo1

    4 жыл бұрын

    JD FArmer Thanks, I didn’t want to make up any forms for the Humans like a “Super Human” Form or anything, give them every available Current Buff in the show to keep up with the Saiyan’s, and Ultimate Kaioken is possible, given how Salad referred to Heroes when giving Piccolo a God Form, in Xenoverse 2, the Human created characters can use Kaioken x4 and Kaioken x20 Kamehameha while in Ultimate form or as Xenoverse 2 refers to it as Potential Unleashed

  • @john98765333
    @john987653333 жыл бұрын

    I think Tien has the most ability to catch up like that. Wasn't it mentioned in the past that the 'Tri clops' Race has a great hidden power, but was blocked off from Tien due to his unpure heart due to his upbringing and Training by Tao and Shen? If so, What if he went and trained with the Supreme Kai/ Whis, and they helped remove those impurities of his mind and soul to help him possibly unlock a new form/ transformation, or to just get a power boost?

  • @demonofsixpaths2078
    @demonofsixpaths20784 жыл бұрын

    17’s strength comes from the fact that he was just constantly training since the Cell Arc

  • @SaladSaiyan

    @SaladSaiyan

    4 жыл бұрын

    NozzDogGamer 2005 I know, I (and many others) just never understood why being an Android allowed him to reach Saiyan levels of power. Tien has been in a similar boat, he’s been training essentially for as long as we knew him, yet his increase in strength is nowhere near as much as 17’s. Maybe that’s a topic for a future video, discussing how being an Android made 17 become so strong

  • @demonofsixpaths2078

    @demonofsixpaths2078

    4 жыл бұрын

    Salad Saiyan that is true and it would be a pretty interesting video, I’ve always thought that the fact that he’s a cyborg would be more likely to make it difficult (if not impossible) for him to get stronger cause of his robotic parts

  • @freezingfire1800

    @freezingfire1800

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@demonofsixpaths2078 maybe his robot parts actually helped him cause since it gives him infinite stamina, he can keep on training every day all of the time with barely any rest or food

  • @dewismith3059

    @dewismith3059

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@freezingfire1800 Slower aging than normal humans, plus Infinite stamina and energy of the Android twins, is a result of them being modified on a genetic level. No wonder Dr Gero created them as the catalysts for cell's perfection.

  • @wirablesquid0992

    @wirablesquid0992

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SaladSaiyan Cell arc 17: Gets absorbed by Imperfect Cell Spars and keeps pace with 3 year training SSJ Blue Goku

  • @peterpoulos6553
    @peterpoulos6553 Жыл бұрын

    Great video considering you predicted Picollo getting a be form. He unlocked his potential with the magic of Shenron making him yellow. His transformation form is a further potential booster through genetic and magic engineering.

  • @imcoolguy4411

    @imcoolguy4411

    Жыл бұрын

    I looked in the comments to see if anybody came back to this video

  • @springtraptheog

    @springtraptheog

    11 ай бұрын

    Me to

  • @superplushies785
    @superplushies7854 жыл бұрын

    This is probably one of the best vids you’ve made can you make more like this?

  • @SaladSaiyan

    @SaladSaiyan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marshy yes!

  • @thctriggz9458

    @thctriggz9458

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been waiting for someone talk about piccolo

  • @LordYamcha
    @LordYamcha4 жыл бұрын

    I loved this video though I doubt that these side characters will ever be anything with how the Dragon Ball franchise is moving- it's just Stronger foes and another day at the Salon

  • @AWSOMEsauce98
    @AWSOMEsauce984 жыл бұрын

    it doesn’t feel like a wednesday

  • @SaladSaiyan

    @SaladSaiyan

    4 жыл бұрын

    shoryu reppa I wonder if this community is ready to be exposed to salad snake jokes

  • @s-boy4613

    @s-boy4613

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SaladSaiyan hold up. You're Salad Snake on insta? DUDE. I used to love looking at your page when I still used insta. No wonder I enjoy your vids so much

  • @jamainegardner4193

    @jamainegardner4193

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@s-boy4613 this channel was originally the offshoot of The Salad Snake KZread Channel.

  • @john-olivierlukama1548

    @john-olivierlukama1548

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's Wednesday today

  • @ProjektTaku
    @ProjektTaku3 жыл бұрын

    maybe the humans could create some technique like kiaoken that multiply's there strength by 50x but doesn't change there appearence (except a golden aura and maybe different coloured eye's) and combine that with a god form to gain power on par with goku and vegeta

  • @AnonyBoiii
    @AnonyBoiii4 жыл бұрын

    One of the human z fighters: so guys, how do we get really strong All of the z fighters:... *SHENRON!!*

  • @omnisystem6030

    @omnisystem6030

    4 жыл бұрын

    AnonymousBoiii Shenron: state you’re wish

  • @Johncornwell103
    @Johncornwell1034 жыл бұрын

    Here is a what if. What if because the way Piccolo was born, he inherited some of Goku's Sayian dna, making him not an exact clone of King Piccolo. Or what if Piccolo travels to HFIL and fuses with King Piccolo to make him a Super Super Namekain...

  • @cascada5200
    @cascada52004 жыл бұрын

    You know i find it shocking that they haven't given piccolo some god form considering he fused with Kami who was a guardian god, and was able to sense the Supreme Kaioshin's divine Ki, which according to super can only be sensed by those with divine ki, they have all the building block there.

  • @soubhagyarajkhandual
    @soubhagyarajkhandual4 жыл бұрын

    For Piccolo, they could go to some old Namekian ruin filled with monsters and perform some Namekian ritual to give him a new form and make him really strong. The ritual shouldn't make a namekian this strong but since Piccolo is a special one(they could give more backstory on that) it would make him absurdly powerful.

  • @opalander
    @opalander Жыл бұрын

    Funny story: My friend and I had an edible and were talking about this, then I had the idea of Goku teaching the Earthlings Kaioken, and then after some time, they end up unlocking some hidden form with it, kind of like Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan; I called it Mastered Kaioken. Then he slapped me upside and said "Mastered Kaioken? Really?"

  • @COOLERthenU

    @COOLERthenU

    Жыл бұрын

    Supreme kaioken. It's got a bkue Arura It's even stronger and has less atrian on your body tho it drain ki fast

  • @ProjektTaku
    @ProjektTaku2 жыл бұрын

    ngl, a what if about tien training with whis would be pretty cool. I mean, its would fit his character to want to get stronger and just be cool

  • @xlro8f853
    @xlro8f853 Жыл бұрын

    Cool video, definitely want to see some HxH strats and or UI from the humans.

  • @gabethebabe3337
    @gabethebabe33374 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the humans should get stuff like the ultimate form and Kaioken, and Piccolo should get the forms from DBH and DBO.

  • @chiahappiness231
    @chiahappiness2314 жыл бұрын

    Definately it's time for picollo to show of his power. Salad saiyan i think this is the best video you have made i hope u keep making more videos like this

  • @trn9939
    @trn99394 жыл бұрын

    Piccolo deserves God ki. He is 1/3 literal God. Just slap Kami's gi on him and call him Kami Piccolo.

  • @bigmandennis5236
    @bigmandennis52364 жыл бұрын

    Love the vids man keep grinding 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

  • @Crimson_Titan
    @Crimson_Titan3 жыл бұрын

    I definitely agree that Piccolo should've been allowed to train w/ Whis and receive God ki. A Namekian god form would definitely make a lot of sense and would be good for keeping the Namekian within the same sphere as Goku & Vegeta. I would also say Gohan should receive at LEAST the Saiyan god form through the god ritual. The Ultimate forms should be reserved primarily for Krillin, Yamcha, Tien & Chiaotzu.

  • @lonestarwolfentertainment7184
    @lonestarwolfentertainment7184 Жыл бұрын

    One way you could potentially buff the Human Z-Fighters is by introducing Universe 6 Humans, think about it the Universe 6 Saiyans were all a bunch of weaklings (except for maybe Kale) until they were trained by Goku and Vegeta so the inverse could be true for the Humans! You could easily bring in powerful Human characters from Universe 6 to help Krillin and Tien and Yamcha catch up.

  • @hubiejr1369
    @hubiejr13694 жыл бұрын

    i want to see tien have something unique with his third eye. maybe he unlocks the power of his third eye with enlightenment

  • @IronMaiden1164
    @IronMaiden11644 жыл бұрын

    Fusions could be used as well. Bring and Tiencha!!

  • @reptilian_geneticist
    @reptilian_geneticist4 жыл бұрын

    Learning how to harness God Ki would be the perfect way to level the playing field and make the other fighters relevant again. Either that or cybernetic enchantments made by bulma would be pretty badass

  • @Keegstar
    @Keegstar Жыл бұрын

    Tien should get a form that explains the story of his 3rd eye, maybe he has a form where he gains more features based on his alien half. Krillin should get some form of enlightenment that he's always in, it doesn't change him much physically but spiritually it's immense. Yamcha should get a form based on the wolf spirit dormant inside of him, perhaps similar too that of super sayian 4.. Conclusion: Humans in dragon ball should be able too unlock power based on accepting who they are and adapting too themselves, making any martial artist unique!

  • @COOLERthenU

    @COOLERthenU

    Жыл бұрын

    We're wolf yamcha aka ALPHA YAMCHA

  • @christopherhess443
    @christopherhess443 Жыл бұрын

    They could always say that the human race goes through a highly accelerated evolution in terms of potential power as an answer to Constantly being nearly wiped out by the battles between the z fighters and the villains. Like really a lot of people died a lot of the time. And yes they used the dragon balls to revive them but I don't think nature wouldn't notice all this apocalypse level destruction.

  • @joshuaschreiber1914
    @joshuaschreiber19142 жыл бұрын

    What if - when the humans had their individual deaths - Yemma allowed them to train in hell after death before the dragon balls brought them back. Think of what a single year of them collectively training in hell could do? The environment is already volatile there, so they would definitely benefit. Then you add gravity training on top of that (say King Kai allows for a sort of policing force to be trained in hell. The earthlings are the ones to start it for a year, then they train some newbies for another year or so to take over, quelling any uprisings in hell and otherwise just doing crazy training) and they’d see HUGE gains. Now as icing on top of the cake, King Kai teaches them all the Kaio Ken technique. Now they have: 1. Durability training (=more Kaio Ken usage) 2. Strength training (=better strength amplifier) 3. Strength amplifiers(=need I explain? Lol) I think this would honestly get them to some CRAZY heights, and since everybody in the series dies at some point it’d be pretty easy to make this work. I know I’m a year late, but I’d REALLY love to see a what if video of this?!

  • @davionfowler2393
    @davionfowler23933 жыл бұрын

    Piccolo is technically a god due to kami right? Shouldn’t he be able to have an easier time accessing god ki

  • @tanner1158
    @tanner11583 жыл бұрын

    Yes Yamacha and chouzio gets love they deserve

  • @adinhansen3768
    @adinhansen37684 жыл бұрын

    I would have done a different transformation for everyone based off of their characteristics, backstories, and techniques.

  • @DoubleBoost23

    @DoubleBoost23

    4 жыл бұрын

    Any examples?

  • @adinhansen3768

    @adinhansen3768

    4 жыл бұрын

    Krillin was a monk, so he could have power up based around zen or enlightenment of example.

  • @DoubleBoost23

    @DoubleBoost23

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hm.. I personally think Enlightenment would work best for that idea, since Krillin mainly focuses on fighting smart and even developed new techniques, plus his knowledge of others he's garnered over the years.

  • @wifreshroses881

    @wifreshroses881

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about yamcha

  • @adinhansen3768

    @adinhansen3768

    3 жыл бұрын

    He could get something that reflects his wolf fang fist?

  • @krysys9703
    @krysys97034 жыл бұрын

    Krillin had a form/technique called No Ego Zone, but it was never used again. Why?! It was a really cool idea that if they kept as a constant thing could've pushed Goku and Vegeta into learning the Perfected Super Saiyan Blue state and it'd make so much sense! Both are forms obtained in the same way! Keeping the flowing ki within the user, and Krillin directed them into his fists for stronger attacks.

  • @brookerickettson4950
    @brookerickettson49504 жыл бұрын

    The non sayains definitely deserve some bones thrown their way. Yes the show is about Goku, and we’ve followed him since he was a kid, but the show has always been the strongest when it had a mix of characters to play off each other. Now it’s basically just Goku, Vegeta, and whatever villain the rest of the cameo cast couldn’t handle. The best episodes of other franchises, like DC, are when the powerhouses like Superman teams up with The Flash, or Batman , those that have skills and abilities that can do things the boys scout can’t, or won’t. The current writters, etc, need to be reminded that more then just Goku can do things. That you cannot just sideline everyone else bc they are not as strong as Goku. Piccolo is super smart, and has fused with a Kami! Chousu has telekinesis , make use of Tien’s third eye, Yamcha’s experience as a bandit, or desert survival skills. So many characters, just wasted.

  • @supermonk3y07
    @supermonk3y07 Жыл бұрын

    Piccolos idea sounds great, and especially in addition to Orange Piccolo's form. I agree that Piccolo is a great and underrated fighter. As for the human fighters, the best thing I could say is that to have the Namekians unlock their potential as well as having the Supreme Kais unlock their potential or mystic powers. Ahhh but also have them train at Dr. Brief's place at Capsule Corp at 300x gravity or something. After they finished training in King Kais planet

  • @JonahRemo
    @JonahRemo4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been subscribed since I first saw your what gohan and goten were twins which made me want more stuff to watch

  • @jtherealmccoy5309
    @jtherealmccoy53094 жыл бұрын

    Ultimate/Mystic form and Ultra Instinct seems to be all they got for now

  • @Crimson_Titan
    @Crimson_Titan4 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad to see a video like this, I've always argued that if Piccolo and the humans were enabled to undergo training equal to what the Saiyans received, they would be incredibly powerful and be able to body most of the series' villains. For Piccolo, he's already received the benefit of using the RoSaT to train, but to our knowledge he only used it once. So theoretically, he could use the room again to further boost his strength. But he could also benefit from extreme gravity training, which I think given his Namekian abilities, I could see him going as high as Vegeta did, at 300x (in the manga). I would also agree on giving him a god form equivalent to SSB via training w/ Whis. Doing this would make Piccolo a BEAST of a character, and probably on Toppo's or Golden Frieza's level. For the humans, I would say give them mystic/ultimate forms similar to what Gohan received via the Old Kai. And I think the Elder Kai would be willing to do it if they just provided him some doujinshi/manga to read during the ritual. Plus, w/ the ultimate forms, you could theoretically stack the Kaioken on top of it, unlike the SSJ forms since the Kaioken is a technique, not a transformation. All it would take then is say, 6 months training in the gravity chamber, reaching say 100x gravity, and a day or two in the RoSaT, and I think it would be very realistic to put the humans on the level of any of Majin Boo's forms (fat, kid, & super). All these things could literally be achieved in under a year in the series.

  • @Sword_Man_YT
    @Sword_Man_YT4 жыл бұрын

    For another discussion video, could you possibly go over Jiren Vs Broly?

  • @BK-dd6ld
    @BK-dd6ld4 жыл бұрын

    Best discussion video ever

  • @terraemerald5879
    @terraemerald58794 жыл бұрын

    Cool i wanna check the comments! Everyone: FiRsT

  • @ethereal3336

    @ethereal3336

    4 жыл бұрын

    Terra Emerald thats how youtube works

  • @terraemerald5879

    @terraemerald5879

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ethereal3336 ik its rigged

  • @ffejpsycho
    @ffejpsycho4 жыл бұрын

    Goku, and Vegeta have responsibilities.... lol, that's a good one!

  • @zacharylyell6299
    @zacharylyell62992 жыл бұрын

    Honestly ever since seeing the Kikoho on cell I've thought that Tien has the potential to take out anyone. If he received kaioken, ultimate, or both he'd be unstoppable. An ultimate kaioken Kikoho would most definitely kill him but would also probably kill most others.

  • @b-conn6624
    @b-conn66243 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered what would happen if one of the humans wished for a limitless potential or the "potential of a Saiyan". Thats one way they could catch up and compete.

  • @ZalamaTheDragonGod
    @ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

    Kaioken + Yardrat Technique or Magic + God Ki + Ultimate This is enough to make anyone who trains more powerful

  • @Sun-cg6lv
    @Sun-cg6lv4 жыл бұрын

    Multi form technique into the fusion dance with Kaioken stacked? Already more powerful than Buu. Think about two tien clones at half strength fuse then become 400+ times stronger then Kaioken x10 and if they trained with God ki and got their potential unlocked? If the humans wanted to they could get waaaaayyyy stronger

  • @mastamunsta6738
    @mastamunsta67384 жыл бұрын

    It would be pretty cool if they could stack the Kaioken on top of the Ultimate Form like what Goku can do with SSB, like the Ultimate Kaioken or something lmao

  • @treanmunt1420
    @treanmunt1420 Жыл бұрын

    So for the humans they could get there potential unlocked by shenron then go into the Hyperbolic time chamber That would help them alot also while there in there roshi could master his full power form and for piccolo his mystic and orange form. Maybe tien could get a four arms form that could double his strength or something

  • @carlox3002
    @carlox30024 жыл бұрын

    Ok listen, how about this: Krillin with his potential that we saw in Super in his episode before the T.O.P., Junior training with Chad Gohan or maybe gods' forms, Chiaotzu training his psychics powers to unimaginable levels, Tien was a GENIUS in normal Dragon Ball so maybe he would create a new technique for boosts in skills and power and for Yamcha...........Yamcha Blanco (No seriously you can maybe have for him some more techniques that uses spirit energy, the same energy of the Spirit Bomb, because in normal DB he uses this spiritual energy ball that he could control, so a nice throwback)

  • @vastalapasta9739
    @vastalapasta97394 жыл бұрын

    Overtime you could perfect kioken

  • @kristinz3755
    @kristinz37554 жыл бұрын

    Piccolo really needs god ki. It will be amazing.

  • @raymondhatton6877
    @raymondhatton68774 жыл бұрын

    something something was done in fear of Raditz`s arrival,thought to have not worked and is slowly rising as a multiplier for the Z fighters,it eventually becomes apparent and the z fighters start to use this in tandem with room of spirit and time to help level the playing field

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely a great conversation to have. And completely possible. Nobody deserves a transformation more than Yamcha. Piccolo is not included because he got a power buff, but they should showcase and training more. All they need is the right motivation to keep on training it has been shown in at least two previous arcs. All Earthling Z fighters Except for Chaotzu and master Roshi surpassed super Saiyan Goku on Namek specifically in the 9 days prep for Da Cell Games. Goku went from 150 Million (Frieza Arc) to 150 Billion (Cell Arc). All the early Z fighters attain the power level of the One Billions Place Value. Unfortunately every time they attained new heights of power, they had to take on a villain whose power level toward the previous villain. They are no weaklings they are insurmountably powerful, they just keep on coming up against a higher class of power, in the form of a new villain. With the right training and motivation they will definitely be able to keep up and specific techniques would put them on at or around the power levels of the Saiyan’s currently. God ki technique is an excellent idea. I’d love to see Whis training them and giving em special tasks and training regimen. I’d also love to see them train together spar and fight one another. It’s something we longtime fans have been waiting to see.

  • @kellyhearne6361
    @kellyhearne63614 жыл бұрын

    so good make a part 2

  • @Limitless94829
    @Limitless948292 жыл бұрын

    Piccolo = KK Namekian God. Humans = Ultimate KK Roshi = Ultra Instincts

  • @jacenjustice
    @jacenjustice3 жыл бұрын

    Muten Roshi may not have accessed UI, but even Whis was shocked that a human with no prior knowledge of UI got that far. Like, this old ass human was knocking on the door, and he's never even trained with a low level god like Kami.

  • @TrisUTD
    @TrisUTD4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video btw imagine G.O.D Yamcha

  • @TonberryShuffle
    @TonberryShuffle Жыл бұрын

    Scariest thought? Fat Buu getting serious and training, getting his potential unlocked, learning god ki and then ultra ego. He'd be unstoppable since he'd lack the physical weaknesses of the UE form that Vegeta does.

  • @yaluckyboy
    @yaluckyboy2 жыл бұрын

    one thing to note about Elder Kai's ritual is that it's confirmed as the ritual used to appoint someone as a Supreme Kai Attendant according to the Super manga. In Future Trunks' timeline, Future Shin used the ritual on Trunks in order to fight Babidi. I'd say that ritual would likely give some degree of God Ki as it is a Godly position and we know that even positions like Guardian give some God Ki since Dende was able to sense Beerus' God Ki

  • @Shesbusylilbro83
    @Shesbusylilbro834 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @michaeln7381
    @michaeln7381 Жыл бұрын

    Ultimate, kaio ken, and god ki will be able to power up all the human fighters to a whole new level for them. If ultra instinct ever gets ditched and the humans get some of the buffs I mentioned then they could attempt it. Also piccolo orange form, wonder if that’ll become cannon?

  • @sukong1232

    @sukong1232

    Жыл бұрын

    It did become canon or at least very implied

  • @stickbug1674
    @stickbug16744 жыл бұрын

    Got a what if idea What if the sons of king piccolo rebelled (Drum tambourine cymbal and piano) during tambourine search for the tournament contestants he would sort of take a android 16 switch him noticing the little things in nature and taking appreciation of it along with the humans of earth but for the other mutant namekians they would get cocky and not listen to king piccolo that much

  • @earvindonovansotto2753
    @earvindonovansotto27534 жыл бұрын

    Great video. God ki is the best for the humans.

  • @-jonahdrake-
    @-jonahdrake- Жыл бұрын

    Having a form that only humans can access would be interesting. It would be cool to see if the Saiyan hybrids would choose to use the form that their human ancestry gave them, or their Saiyan forms, or maybe even try combining them

  • @GenocideHeart
    @GenocideHeart Жыл бұрын

    A simple way to power up the human fighters could be making them like DBZ Broly - that is, their ki naturally grows as they get older, and the effect is magnified if they actually train. In short, they will have no special transformation, but the effects of training are massively greater, and they accumulate raw power faster than any other species. Basically, where saiyan and namekians have exclusive techniques and transformations, humans are pure brute force, and make up for their lack of variety with sheer smashing power.

  • @jovistanner6378
    @jovistanner63784 жыл бұрын

    Piccolo sudden burst in mental power because of meditation... Tien eye technique can pinpoint enemy weakness (or they could refer eye power like in the naruto's such as uchihas)... Krillin found more and more support ability (maybe invincibility to mimic surroundings rather than giving light taioken, but make invincibility to the fighter thats desired)... Yamcha manipulate others ki to move like the spirit ball, Chiaotzu make others teleport like instant transmission but only works for others (but can teleport them from the distance)

  • @trogonaz2616
    @trogonaz26164 жыл бұрын

    Nonononononono no. Here's how to do it, Krillin - Goku and Roshi got UI or almost UI I could see krillin doing so as well, his Ultra Instinct would be better than Roshi but not as good as Goku. Tien -Tien would need to Evolve his power his own way and get a new power that's his that is a parallel to Vegeta and it should be just his and relate to his third eye. Yamacha - Yamacha should be the strength equivalent to Gohan but I think for him what would be best is to get something like wrathful involving animal or wolf impulses to make him a parallel of Gohan in strength but maybe broly in some ways too. Piccolo - I would agree that piccolo gets Destroyer energy but not after a internal character struggle. In witch he thinks about why he would be a destroyer in witch he talks to Toppo Jiren Goku Vegeta (because you can learn a lot from someone by fighting them). lastly whis and due to his long life span and coming to the realization that its not necessarily evil and my be his duty to the universe to better it and he will work with shin as a destroyer should. Ps - Roshi gets UIO too.

  • @ShadeSlayer1911
    @ShadeSlayer19112 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if there was a human-exclusive transformation or technique that gives them an advantage over Saiyans. Maybe not in terms of raw power, but something that let's them stand on somewhat equal grounds to Goku and Vegeta. That's way more interesting to me than just giving them what Goku or Gohan already has. But there'd have to be some solid lore reason why only humans can do it, and maybe it's something that Bulma helps unlock. That way, it's entirely a human achievement. No asking for boosts or training from aliens and whatnot. Gasp, what if Bulma can turn them into androids / cyborgs? Or she unlocks some sort of mutation.

  • @Fabszs81
    @Fabszs814 жыл бұрын

    I wish yamucha got a bit more of a role in DBS he was one of the main characters in DBZ n original dragon ball he had great potential to become a great martial artist

  • @lucasmerker742
    @lucasmerker7424 жыл бұрын

    Krillin and Tien should absorb the spirit bomb to get like a sage mode. and Yamcha should get a mini arc where The Trio of Danger comes to earth and curse him with a wolf form the gives him a bloodlust. Yamcha would give some trouble to z-fighters but would eventually learn to control his bloodlust and harness his new wolf power for good.

  • @jasper4191
    @jasper41914 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, one way to posses godly ki immediately was to become the guardian of a planet, to be specific, guardian of earth. An example is Dende being able to sense Beerus when he arrived on Earth the first time, this immediately give us an idea that Dende possesses godly ki as the guardian of earth. Though it is unknown how one does become a guardian or how they can gain godly ki, it is yet to be confirmed if they do, yet it may be one method of possibly getting god ki. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

  • @stevenle9960
    @stevenle99603 жыл бұрын

    Chioutzu should work on his magic abilities more. Especially with moro showing off that magic hax can overcome a raw power gap

  • @DeterminedPhilip
    @DeterminedPhilip4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I think your elder Kai unlock/ultimate form will be best for them/humans. When they power it up, it will display mini lighting within their white aura. 😎👍🏾 as for Roshi, have him get a magical buff. Like being able to transform into his younger self with ultra instinct sign/omen but only for 1 hour at first. Elder Kai grants him this. And Piccolo gets God ki

  • @Hanke86
    @Hanke864 жыл бұрын

    Always thought Piccolo should have a transformation where he has dragon-like features. I also think Tien would be a good shout for Ultra instinct as he seems more suitable than the others

  • @PaulyRules
    @PaulyRules4 жыл бұрын

    Early gang love your videos

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 Жыл бұрын

    Yamcha has a Precision strike based fighting style between the wolf fang fist and the spirit ball so having him train to find enemy weak spots would help him.

  • @chiahappiness231
    @chiahappiness2314 жыл бұрын

    Cool video

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 Жыл бұрын

    Tien is overly dependent on the tri beam when it should only be a last resort since it drains his life force. He needs to combine his unique 3 eyed clan abilities with both his crane school roots and turtle school philosophy to become a well rounded warrior

  • @lexyleighmalinowski4136
    @lexyleighmalinowski41362 жыл бұрын

    Gohan is the reason why piccolo doesn't want to leave

  • @nickybutton100
    @nickybutton1004 жыл бұрын

    I feel like an excuse for 17 being so absurdly strong is that, on top of his training, his infinite energy engine was storing energy and he would just keep scaling

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