How is Logan Paul legit pulling up his employee's criminal history as a defense for himself? You hired them bro!

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

He wants people to sympathize for the poor baby

@kingmanic

Жыл бұрын

Logan Paul: How dare you interview criminals and conmen. They are obvious untrustworthy. I on the other hand would never associate with such scum, except to conspire to steal money from my fans. SHAME on you Coffeeville.

@deadlyydude5522

Жыл бұрын

He’s not very smart… simple as

@dumbassdude8372

Жыл бұрын

I get it if he hired 1 fraudster like that is an accident but 3 of them at the same time. He knew what he was doing and if not for coffeezilla everyone would still look at logan paul as "reformed"

@intrnl

Жыл бұрын

also, the one criminal record that was shown in the video was from 2002 2002 AND 2021 IS A MASSIVE TIME GAP, ANYTHING COULD HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEN just because they were once a criminal doesn't mean they'll always stay criminal, and Logan Paul doesn't have anything to show that Z is still a criminal.

It's funny how Logan built a team of scammers with the purpose of scamming people, but now his defense is that his partners were scammers.

@cocoabeanzz

Жыл бұрын

TRUE LMAOO

@That_One_Guy...

Жыл бұрын

God i hate that idiots like this live good life and hardworking mostly live harsher life.

@tryptich6423

Жыл бұрын

and that my friend, is the world we live in now

@squidlover7615

Жыл бұрын

Galaxy brain

@thahirshibu5042

Жыл бұрын

it's so stupid it's almost brilliant, however, Logan is smart and knows the people she was scamming with...

I love that his whole defense is that he's just criminally negligent and not an actual scammer

@sundome1237

Жыл бұрын

The SBF defense; smart moves, let's see how it turns out

@archaydutta3013

Жыл бұрын

SBF tech

@hellvatican3385

Жыл бұрын

@@sundome1237 i thought this was talking about super best friends play at first LMAOO

@isaaciced

Жыл бұрын

444th like

@boomynote

Жыл бұрын

Also “I’ll see you in court 🤓”

I don’t think his hirings were due to his ineptitude, I think he hired the exact people he wanted.

@aardfay

Жыл бұрын

I believe so too

@BlueHundred1

Жыл бұрын

I agree but that's the picture he's trying to portray, which is hilarious

@Woozop

Жыл бұрын

I think the people who spent money on it scammed themselves lol its just damn stupid

@eirzaa0429

Жыл бұрын

@@Woozop of course, the people and investors who spent on it are idiots as well. Doesn't make Logan Paul any less of a cunt tho

@zureai

Жыл бұрын

@@Woozop Essentially. He hired shady people, and then they all did shady shit to each other and now he’s trying to throw them all under the bus

Logan Paul coming back to the internet once in a while and causing a huge drama is a classic thing to witness.

@zent183

Жыл бұрын

At this point I'm convinced he's doing this on purpose for relevancy and marketing

@zent183

Жыл бұрын

@finallyitshere5697 don't really need a clip or much explanation for it but ok

@DigitalW1zard

Жыл бұрын

I mean this is a stupid comment cause he’s not Batman he doesn’t leave and come back he’s always here it’s just cucks who watch him

@bwnzix

Жыл бұрын

@@zent183 it a bot too brah

@INKtastiks

Жыл бұрын

real 2018 vibes

What really kills me about Logan blaming Coffeezilla for giving these sources a platform is that he had OVER A YEAR TO GIVE A STATEMENT TO REFUTE THEIR CLAIMS AND REFUSED TO DO SO.

@kennymadethat

Жыл бұрын

yeah logan definitely knew they were criminals through the whole thing

I do love that he’s like “who would hire this untrustworthy guy? Not me I hired the guy who hired him but he’s even worse.” And sees nothing wrong with that

The best part about this channel is that Ludwig really gets to put his degree to use. Extremely entertaining and informative.

@mylo9753

Жыл бұрын

His degree in tax fraud 🔥💪🙏

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

what's his degree?

@oi-qn7xl

Жыл бұрын

@@mrosskne tax frauding

@itismelissa

Жыл бұрын

@@mrosskne journalism

Thank you for pointing out the logical fallacies Logan used, people need to be aware of how manipulative he is being

@125conman

Жыл бұрын

Not sure why logic isn't a required class in highschool. Logic is one of the few things i learned in highschool / College that I use nearly daily as someone pushing 30.

@CaiGwatkin

Жыл бұрын

@@125conman it is useful, for sure. The insidious thing about logical fallacies is that they masquerade as being logical! Critical thinking (and a bit of scepticism) is useful for identifying the underlying, illogical foundation. Unfortunately, that is the harder thing to do and often many will trust that someone else has done the critical thinking for them...

@madeliakandmonroe2032

Жыл бұрын

I literally used a strategy like Logan’s back in middle school to win a fake legal argument against other kids in my class and I got the votes from the other kids in the class to win 😂. Super dumb but effective

@deadlyydude5522

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Logan clearly thinks he’s got some great comebacks, but in reality he’s just digging himself deeper. Dude should just apologize and move on

@CoryLuLu

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how he integrates that so well at 6:12 definitely not editing out the wrong fallacy and correcting it later with a different one.

If you pause, Zach's arrest took place in 2002, so over 20 years ago. The irony of Logan, of all people, using one indiscretion from years ago to argue that someone is bad/untrustworthy is so rich I think it gave me diabetes... Edit: 2 days later, not only did Logan turn off comments on the video, he removed it from his channel entirely. Full statement in replies.

@leaveacomment

Жыл бұрын

Zach was 19 and Logan dares to put him under fire 20 years later

@Flapjack3734

Жыл бұрын

Logan talks about the skeletons in that guy’s closet when the skeletons in his own STILL HAVE FLESH… literally (sorry if thats a bit insensitive, but seriously, if we should immediately write the guy he hired off as a criminal for something done 20 years ago, which might hold validity, then why dont we hold Logan to the same standards for filming actual corpses among other things done within the past decade??)

@sillygoofygoofball

Жыл бұрын

THIS

@theAlex2577

Жыл бұрын

THIS, and lets not even talk about the fact his bestfriend used to be a drug dealer/addict who wrote a whole book on redemption and second chances

@thepearlswirl

Жыл бұрын

I LITERALLY SAID THIS TOO. E X A C T L Y 💯 coffeezilla didnt add it bc it’s not relevant and if it was and he did put it in.. it would have just looked like he was trying to make him (Logan) look bad on purpose which creditable journalist DO NOT DO. It’s facts, evidence and nothing else. That’s how you gain credibility in that field. DUH. Why expose something that happened 20 YEARS AGO.. when LOGANS 61 million view apology was uploaded FIVE YEARS AGO. GET REAL!!!

the question "at what point do you take responsibility?" really just keeps hitting every time

I would like to point out that the fact that he had tabs of the same video and other points lined up like this and closed tabs as he went along with his points is insanely organized in a way I could never be. major kudos

"The problem isn't being just a narcissist, it's ... also using your narcissism to take on projects you're actually too dumb to fucking do." Well said, bang on.

@h3rpad3rpacifilis

Жыл бұрын

He literally just had to stay in his lane, which is entertainment. While its unlikely he is innocent, it would be really stupid to play around business with no prior knowledge beyond basic influencer knowledge and acting stupid in front of camera.

@Ubebread1

Жыл бұрын

Even Stevie Wonder can see that this is a scam.

@vixiestarfire

Жыл бұрын

And the big problem with that is they think they’re more competent then most people 😂

Man who could’ve guessed he takes 0 responsibility. All he did was photoshop coffeezilla’s face and addressed none of the accusations.

@scorch4299

Жыл бұрын

i mean Logan has one play. Just one. The group chat messeges are fake. Thats it. And since thats likely not true, and they are real - hes got nothin.

@myth_iya5491

Жыл бұрын

Man that crazy that’s how these people gain so many likes they click on the video and just writes something based off the thumb nail title and first minute of the video

@Probasaur

Жыл бұрын

Hope to see some good come out of all this

@doodleplayer4014

Жыл бұрын

BUT SMAL FACE FUNY!!!1!

@lukewarmteabag

Жыл бұрын

I got memes

Those text conversations are what's known as "securities fraud" Also Logan didn't have to sell his tokens, he got the Egg money. He made over a million dollars in eth from that rug pull without selling a token. It's crazy that this stuff is so complicated that felonies get lost in the details.

I pray Coffeezilla doesn't get intimidated by any of these threats from Logan. He's done so much to spread awareness against scammers and puts himself forward as a target against them to get the word out for us.

@kagato23

Жыл бұрын

He’s been threatened by smarter and more cohearant.

@mp5enthusiast

Жыл бұрын

@@kagato23 lmao true

@Nobody-wx6rk

Жыл бұрын

If Coffee's up to date on the legalities of his work, he knows he has nothing to fear. Logan would be shooting himself in the foot by taking him to court because Discovery alone would put the case in Coffee's favor, as I understand it.

@drmaulana2600

Жыл бұрын

the guy faced SBF before, Logan is low level crook compared to SBF

@antman7673

Жыл бұрын

It is not Logan, but young men motivated by logan.

“You didn’t point out 3 of my fellow creators were criminals” is a crazy way to defend yourself

@elee9056

Жыл бұрын

saying you cant trust them due to their past when his past isnt any better….. mr.”second chance please”

@GamerConnoisseurRei

Жыл бұрын

Ikr?! That's actually makes him look even more idiotic than Coffeezilla video

@lnsflare1

Жыл бұрын

Especially since Coffeezilla kept trying to get in touch with LP directly for his side of the story.

@kyberion

Жыл бұрын

@@lnsflare1then he blames him for going to his manager which I thought was his managers job. Logan is too big and famous to deal with every single person asking for comment. So his manager didn’t do his job and that’s coffeezillas fault for I guess not stalking Logan.

@MelbourneArchviz

Жыл бұрын

haha

"So bad and so illegal - they could get a Zack Snyder cut" man that was such a good line holy shit

Lud, narcissists can't stomach calling themselves narcissists. They are unable to admit wrong doing or faults/weaknesses. They're particularly poor at taking accountability. Take it from someone who personally knew a couple diagnosed ones. You're all right my guy lol

@tuesday3735

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could get the narcissist in my life to get diagnosed. At least then I wouldn't keep telling myself it's all in my head!

The mental gymnastics of "as a 'journalist' you should know all of these things from the people you talk to" and "as an entrepreneur I'm not reguired of knowing any of these things from the people I go into business with or hire." is quite amazing.

@whoahanant

Жыл бұрын

Feels like a common response in crypto. Wasn't Sam Bankman saying similar things lmao. "I don't know what's happening in my own business so therfore I am not responsible".

@Toastybees

Жыл бұрын

@@whoahanant On what world is the excuse "I was negligent and incompetent" a defense and not an admission of guilt?

@whoahanant

Жыл бұрын

@@Toastybees that's the point. They use it like it's a defense but everyone else just sees them as a self report. The whole point is to point out that they seem to use the same excuse every other time when they get into trouble, even though it makes no sense to everyone else. These guys really think that being "oopsy woopsy just a rich guy who didn't pay attention" is a good answer when it isn't.

@demetriam2408

Жыл бұрын

It's honestly dumb, because he just goes "here's this information only I knew or that you have talked about otherwise, you r Stoopid"

@ethan2670

Жыл бұрын

@here is the full clip fuck you, spam bot

Coffee: “I’m blocked on twitter, he ignored all my DMs on instagram, and when I called his manager and asked to talk to him, the manager told me no” Logan: “well you coulda just asked”

@killershark597

Жыл бұрын

“I’ve made a continuous and terrible lapse in my judgment…” 😑

@a_lost_one

Жыл бұрын

The manager didn't just tell Coffee no... he implied that Coffee would get sued for publishing anything that was considered 'untrue.' I really hope this gaslighting, scamming clown sues Coffeezilla. I'll give Coffee some money while getting ready for the legal discovery phase. 🍿

@ghosthunter0950

Жыл бұрын

@@a_lost_one he probably will but it's not a good thing. what I do hope is for some jailtime.

@saddocatto9245

Жыл бұрын

@@a_lost_one Wold have been a fun court case again... like the Amber vs Jhonny one. Can't wait for logang to be exposed in the courtroom.

@OwnerOfGlory

Жыл бұрын

@@a_lost_one lets be honest if they sue coffee it would be the dumbest thing they could do, the last thing you want after scamming someone is go to court.

Logan basically said "I hired a team of scammers and then you lost money... but its not my fault"

13:35 Logan Paul: “trust me bro, I’m that guy”

the point that Logan complains that Coffeezilla didn't reach out to him is INSANE like what is your manager supposed to do?!?!?

@ApexGale

Жыл бұрын

he even had him blocked. and his manager did not do anything but reserve comment during their call and subtly threaten legal action.

@JustDidYourMother

Жыл бұрын

Also he did send 3 emails asking Logan Paul for comment lmao. Logan accidentally tweeted for it

@CinereMalus

Жыл бұрын

"hey can you verify this statement I want to get you're side of the story" "I'm just saying it is your job as a journalist to report factual information"

@vailingbow1068

Жыл бұрын

@@CinereMalus "yes, that is why I'm reaching out to you."

@zed011

Жыл бұрын

Logan : so what is your expertise ? Jeff : I'm not good at anything, basically an idiot, but I can dickriding you at least Logan : Hired !!

Coffeezilla isn’t even a bad journalist he reported on everything he had access to. Logan’s team didn’t say anything for him to report on to get both sides, they only threatened him with a law suit.

6:13 gotta be the smoothest cut ever made no one will know lol (love these keep up the great work)

I'm LOVING all the high end creators not backing down to Logan, or holding their tongue. I've said this multiple times, but Logan comes rushing in like a bully pushing a nerd into lockers, but he didn't know we were all waiting lol. Logan doesn't have a leg to stand on with the Internet, or in a court of law.

Its insane that Logan also said that the developers' kids loved the game and couldn't stop playing it, WHEN IT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST. Then he turned and flammed some guy for having his kid involved in it. The fact thats only a single part of the story is insane too.

@myth_iya5491

Жыл бұрын

Stop begging for likes

@idontknowleavemealoneplease

Жыл бұрын

The "finally it's here" in these annoying bot comments made me think of the dude who jumps up and down with the force of a surface piercing bomb when his WWF action figures finally *arrive* and I was actually happy I read a bot comment for the first time. Today was pretty good.

@stuckinatree45

Жыл бұрын

YES THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING

@rootfish2671

Жыл бұрын

@@idontknowleavemealoneplease who?

@idontknowleavemealoneplease

Жыл бұрын

@@rootfish2671 kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZ-euberg7rJlrA.html this guy. Edit: it arrived 😲

I think for the "3rd time reaching out" thing, Moisty had a pretty good take. Jake had blocked Coffee, so reaching out to Jeff instead was probably a good idea since there could have been a "harassment" suit.

5:34 “You hired those guys, that’s your fault!” Preach! 👏

Zack Kelling's mug shot is awesome. I always love mug shots with those "oh well" smirks😂

Would love to see him defend himself against actual legal prosecution using the same arguments

@Tface1572

Жыл бұрын

“I am that guy your honor”

@silentsylo9053

Жыл бұрын

^underrated comment 😂

@ct5625

Жыл бұрын

I don't think we'll have to wait long for that. The way this guy is going he's going to be wearing orange himself within the next 5 years.

@cyjan3k823

Жыл бұрын

Your honor you see law system is just dumb

@oscarprieto9013

Жыл бұрын

"It can't be me. I use very little math. I use a lot of elementary school math." --Logan Paul

Even if he’s innocent the incompetence should ruin any trust with this man.

@a-sseater553

Жыл бұрын

Hes definitely not innocent

@nanobot1497

Жыл бұрын

@@a-sseater553 Where Is The Proof He’s Not?

@nanobot1497

Жыл бұрын

People Act Like They Haven’t Been Fulled Once or Twice And Have Shown Incompetence Themselves In Their Lifetimes 🤣 Logan Gets Scammed Himself And People Hate The Guy All Over Again

@jasperwildlifeassociation5828

Жыл бұрын

@@nanobot1497 he puts the blame on everyone else; he could say that he got scammed but made bad choices with the people he got into business with but instead just says “I got scammed as well, I’m also a victim.” He doesn’t accept any blame. (Besides this isn’t the first nft he’s done, so I doubt it’s innocence)

@nanobot1497

Жыл бұрын

@@jasperwildlifeassociation5828 He Clearly Admits To His Incompetence. Admits To Being An Idiot That Hired Bad People

Great coverage and also was pleasantly surprised by Lud's nuance when talking about narcissism. Rare to see these days

We’re all screaming at this video “When will you take responsibility Logan!?” Every video I’m screaming that lmao

7:55 isn’t this the point of managers in the first place. They’re there to be your voice for the public because you can't do it yourself. “It’s impossible to respond to every dm.” Exactly! That’s why you have managers no?

@ninjamage5215

Жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly. Actually braindead defense from Logan there

@gikle8354

Жыл бұрын

Its the fact that he reached out to Logan but only after the fact. True the manager is braindead but he should have reached out to Logan before or not at all.

@ninjamage5215

Жыл бұрын

@@gikle8354 He did reach out in October of 2021… and how else is he supposed to reach Logan directly? Instagram was his only option because he was blocked on twitter and he didn’t have Logan’s email until after Logan tried to join his Patreon

@Dryadal

Жыл бұрын

@@gikle8354 But that's the manager's JOB. It's like, if I was a journalist wanting an interview with President Biden and his secretaries/aides said no, he couldn't come out and say "I wasn't called on my personal phone, what a fraud of a journalist". Because yes, celebrities can't read or answer every direct message on social media. THAT'S WHY MANAGERS EXIST. If they refuse an interview, that's on them. If they should have, according to Logan, then his manager screwed up - not Coffeezilla. By contacting the manager and then sending a DM is more than enough from the POV of journalistic integrity - if Logan's personal contact information like email or phone isn't public, you go through managers. Which Coffee did.

@Chachixo

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the videos came out over an entire week. I have a hard time believing he and his team were unaware of the videos until the third one came out. Then again, he has admitted to being bad at hiring people so maybe not lol.

A whole crew of people came up with, wrote the script for, filmed, edited, and released Logan's response video thinking it was the biggest W of all time. The dude even teased this 7 minute long response a week ago like it was a bombshell.

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

its gunna blow up in his face 😂

@GEEXD031

Жыл бұрын

I mean, i wouldnt mind getting paid probably a decent amount to just edit short low effort shit LMAO.

@nurazizijuliansyah1369

Жыл бұрын

It was a bombshell alright, but just bombshell to himself apparently

@Fay7666

Жыл бұрын

@@GEEXD031 I'd rather be Logan's manager. I don't need to think, do, or even be responsible for anything because any of my issues just get deflected by my boss.

@exodyno

Жыл бұрын

​@@Fay7666 you'd rather not... xD Jeff is Lodumb's punching bag.

9:04 Lol the fine print on a criticism of fine print

Really love the addition of explaining an Ad Hominem, More people need to be given like definitions on big phrases and words they hear in vids so they dont misuse them (I was a Big Word kid lmfao). Keep up the Great work.

When Coffee said "you can't even hatch?", he was talking specifically about eggs bought with Etherium, which is also what the "fine print" there was referencing. Everyone keeps missing this detail.

@whoahanant

Жыл бұрын

He also said in the video that "The hatching worked at one point but was then pulled because it was too buggy". He completely addressed the Etherium side of things and the main coins differences. 2 different systems. Hatching only worked perfectly for one side for some amount of time. Maybe they fixed it before the vids came out but Logan also didn't say anything about the problem of attaining their yields either. "There was no way to attain your yield". Has that been fixed Logan? Regardless this all mattered AT LAUNCH. Who cares if it works now if they all lost their money at launch?

Unfortunately, his fanbase will still defend Logan Paul, even after getting exposed. They will still subscribe and watch his content.

@XS-NRG

Жыл бұрын

Then they deserve to get scammed and lose all their money. At some point you gotta let people make their own mistakes and "ignores documentary confirming influencer scammed people and proceeds to give them more of your money" is well past that point.

@raymark6802

Жыл бұрын

@@XS-NRGSince his fanbase is kids, they'll grow up and stop watching him, eventually. They will then realize how they defended the wrong person.

@poptur9044

Жыл бұрын

@@StewBonBonGood. You came to your senses.

@w0lfdog

Жыл бұрын

it’s only a matter of time until his fans grow up and lose interest, but even then, there will always be more young children finding out about him and subscribing with grubby ipad fingers. it’s an endless cycle.

@flapjack4579

Жыл бұрын

at that point, that’s on them. the facts and allegations are in front of them-if they can’t see the issue, then that’s their problem

It's like a murderer in a detective mystery confessing to everything and lambasting at the detective for missing a few small details

That opening sounded like you were describing the art world rather than the crypto world, crazy how parallel they are

I love him calling coffee a bad journalist because he missed some things even though he reached out to Logan multiple times to get their side and help him not miss those things…

@sora1498

Жыл бұрын

ikr like he literally did all he could to get logans side and logan is like "well no i said no so actually its not my fault its your fault" like ... what

@NateVHVT

Жыл бұрын

He's a bad journalist because he reported accurately apart from the things I wouldn't tell him.

@Nightsmith_After_Dark

Жыл бұрын

no no no you don't understand he reached out to his manager thats not Logan /s

@demandedcargo3919

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking, too. He could have even said I can't say anything due to legal proceedings if that was the case. LP's response was such a cop out.

@Chad-bc9vi

Жыл бұрын

@@Nightsmith_After_Dark it's funny since he reached out to Logan but he ignored Coffee and doesn't have much option to contact him since Logan blocked him on Twitter, he reached out to his manager but he left Coffee on read

Trying to sue Coffee to silence him long enough for people to for get what he did, is a classic scammer move and he WILL get away with it if we allow him to.

@kingmanic

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like anti slapp would apply.

@ArDeeMee

Жыл бұрын

Logan would never sue Coffee for anything. As Upper Echelon keeps saying „I‘d LOVE for them to have to go through search and discovery.“

@greenie15

Жыл бұрын

@@kingmanic if the state has a law like that- and he could sue in a random state as far as I understand

@BurningTNT

Жыл бұрын

@@ArDeeMee yeah wouldn’t sueing just give the courts/coffee’s team access to a whole bunch of documents about the fiasco that they never would have seen?

@mikeg8543

Жыл бұрын

He would be screwing himself plus rally a community behind coffeezilla that would unite youtubers at a thanos threat level lmao.

Gained so much respect for Lud, coming out with a strong and educated opinion on the matter. I appreciate him in a whole new light. Keep on keeping on Ludwig!!

@mrbodin

Жыл бұрын

“Educated opinion” 😂😂

@frankleone502

Жыл бұрын

Yea educated!? I’m confused on what you’re laughing at

One of the best parts of luds vids is seeing what strokes songs he’s being listening to

That was a slam dunk at the end, calling out his narcissism while being honest about your own narcissism. Very well put, it's not bad to be narcissistic alone, but when you don't see your own limits and don't take accountability, you are fucked - or your victims are fucked.

@mmarco8787

Жыл бұрын

It's only a "slam dunk" to a moron. A crazy guy calling another crazy guy crazy isn't something you should admire. Unless you're a moron.

@trentbosnic

Жыл бұрын

@@mmarco8787 You really like the word moron, huh? Ludwig clearly isn't a crazy narcissist, he's a rational guy with some narcissistic tendencies, like every other person who films themselves on KZread. Only a "moron" would not be able to tell the difference.

Lmao that 30 second rant in the beginning about crypto was amazing

It makes me so happy to know that people aren’t just letting him get away with this. Keep me updated Ludwig😂

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

He'll just make a new game to make the controversy go away 😁

@BIGhomieSLIME666

Жыл бұрын

@@husepher He already tried it’s called 99 Originals😂😂😂

@ToxicSunPraiser

Жыл бұрын

Who's Ludwig? I only know Mogul Mail

@StabbyTheSkaven

Жыл бұрын

@@BIGhomieSLIME666 i mean that wasnt really a game, just a bunch of ugly polaroid esque images he didnt want to sell as actual goods so he made nfts because no one would care about his art offline

@Titzmcfloppin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, I stopped my 8 and 12 year old from watching him after all of this. It’s quite clear that he doesn’t deserve an audience anymore.

Fair and well thought out criticism as per usual. In this day and age, obfuscation is the go-to play for these scammers; these people who are innately dishonest. They can't help it. It's who they are. Sadly, social media allows these people to thrive. But in the same vein, we have honest and intelligent people on social media (Ludwig for example) who can expose dishonest people for who they are. Fair game.

Not gonna lie Ludwig man you opened my eyes and made me realize a crucial flaw in myself. I completely let whatever Logan said just fly past me not analyzing much of what was said and was almost saying that he actually has good facts in his video. But you showed me how dumb I am and I definitely need to work on my analytical skills in order to dissect information thats fed to me so that I don't just get blindly swayed by the idiot out there on the internet

@_BELMONT_

Жыл бұрын

Good on you! Just dont give any of these rich kids any money

@BroadwayBrittany

Жыл бұрын

Don’t feel too bad: the tactics Logan used are designed to be persuasive, to make you think as little as possible about what he’s saying and get you to nod along in agreement. If you want to start working on your analytical skills, I suggest doing exactly what Ludwig does here: after every statement or so, pause whatever video it is you’re watching and take a moment to think over what was just said. Process it, question it. Does it make sense? Is it accurate? Is it trying to convince you of something? If so, what? Is it even relevant to the main point being made? Analytical skills are something that have to be practiced, just like any other skill. I hope this helps you develop yours :)

@Pimp.My.Forklift

Жыл бұрын

It's always easy to take the side you're already on. That's is why we usually believe the first source we hear, specially if it's someone we trust. So anyone that can realize and admit they were being deceived is already ahead of the curve.

@MrNikolidas

Жыл бұрын

Wholesome comment section right here. We need more critical thinkers, keep fighting the good fight.

@BLOBGAMERv2

Жыл бұрын

Not gonna hate on ya for realizing your mistake, but it was easy to tell that Logan Paul is not a good person lol

Just think how privileged we all are to get to live in a time where we can tune in semi regularly to watch logan paul blow up his reputation time and time again

@drampagrampa

Жыл бұрын

we are so blessed 🙏

@Danny191

Жыл бұрын

How long do you think it will be until WWE scrub any mention of Logan and memory hole him like they did Crispen Wah

@chrischin_94

Жыл бұрын

@@Danny191 They won't. Too many kids will tune in to watch him. Which is sad, he's a decent wrestler

@xPandaaaah

Жыл бұрын

Why is he allowed to get so rich doing bullshit, though. This world sucks

@Tethloach1

Жыл бұрын

@@xPandaaaah Because he is a star, the myth the legend, the icon.

Logan’s entire video boils down to just 7 minutes of “nuh-uh”

It wouldn't be a new year without a Logan Paul drama to start it.

He basically defamed Coffee and 'doxxed' his 'team' yet he want to sue Coffee for defamation. What a sweet irony.

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

It's so delicious

@HexiiSky

Жыл бұрын

i dislike logan as much as the next person. but court documents are public record. didnt dox anyone

@johnsmith-mt9ob

Жыл бұрын

@@HexiiSky For real. I'm not sure why everyone is so upset about this. Logan is required to disclose relevant information about the case, as well as any documents or evidence related to the case. This is like Logan saying I have nothing to hide.

@biggiewiggie5557

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-mt9ob Except people have been trying to get ahold of him for over a year for comment, got threatened by his limp dick buddy on his payroll that they'd be sued if they talked about it, and then basically said "Logan no bad, me hire bad people. feel bad child fanbase :(". Fucking lol thinking he had nothing to hide.

@tempest8920

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-mt9ob if you can't tell Logan is in the wrong You're at max like 12 years old

Props for not pulling your punches with this one, seriously disappointing what this man gets away with.

@calvitocalvon1711

Жыл бұрын

He wont crypto will slowly get regulated and punished, FTX scandal is the first of many

@Woozop

Жыл бұрын

Lmao i think if you put money into it your stupid he didn’t scam no one they scammed themselves lolololol

@niallk9336

Жыл бұрын

But he did pull punches. The scam around the June buy-in isn't even mentioned. That was the actual scam -- the NFTs, game, etc. was all window dressing to get to that moment when they could monopolize the coins early then have a 2nd shadow launch and sell at enormous profits into the hype. He didn't care about anything up to that point. He got into bed with scammers to scheme that, then was shocked that his fellow scammers never intended to pay a dime to devs. Or that they were secretly buying more on the June launch than they were supposed to. Or that they were secretly selling more than they were supposed to on the shadow / public launch date.

Someone steals one thousand- Straight to prison Someone steals one million- maybe a "harshly worded letter" but no punishment Someone steals one billion- hugs and dinners with MP's and Senators

More and more we are seeing that Ludwig is one of the most grounded people in this space and its really not close, well said.

@M00T3N

Жыл бұрын

100 percent. Lud is one of the people that I am happy for their success. His success hasn’t changed him for the worst either.

Reaching out to Logan's manager is effectively the same thing as reaching out to Logan. His manager is his agent and is allowed to speak for him to some extent. They're allowed to do basic shit like respond to communications from the Media.

@koLdZ1

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much the same thing, I was freaking malding when I saw that part in Logans vid, that's why people have managers, to fucking manage their time and projects and to filter out bs and forward the important shit to their employer.

@enthalpy7679

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s pretty much their job to be in charge of that stuff

@Chad-bc9vi

Жыл бұрын

His manager is basically useless lol

@gracefoster7587

Жыл бұрын

Kinda just outing that almost his whole team is useless and it’s a bunch of yes men

@phantom_flash_x

Жыл бұрын

Coffee actually reached out to Logan before through Insta cause Logan blocked him everywhere else, and when that failed he reached out to his manager who left him on read. Logan is an idiot haha

The funny part about Logan's response is that he could have spoken directly to coffeezilla about this when he tried reaching out to him. Logan Paul and his manager HAD THE CHANCE. They literally chose not to tell their side of the story only to then accuse Stephen of lying.

@whoahanant

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Once on insta? I think? Then 2-3 times through the manager. Logan had Coffeezilla blocked so it's not like it was easy to contact him. Also his weird take of "you contacted my manager before me"? I'm about 99% sure most managers are supposed to take calls for you. Or at minimum, relay the call/messages they got to you. That's part of your job as a celeb/influencer manager. How else was he supposed to contact you if he's blocked, probably on a few platforms, with no public or surefire direct way to contact you? Answer: Manager.

@Dekedence

Жыл бұрын

@@whoahanant yep, the whole point of having an agent / manager / business email / moderators / PO Box is that acts as a buffer so someone else can filter/sort/vett the incoming stuff, respond/act on behalf and/or flag anything particularly interesting. For someone in demand, it's purely a numbers vs. time thing.

The Rock eyebrow raises took me out at the start

Man's whole defense was saying "everyone i brought in on this was a scammer, so why are you saying I scammed people"

What Logan did: No apologies No accountability Only defense and "saving goodwill" If coffee had not exposed him, he wouldn't have made a vid or anything about this and obviously not even developed crypto zoo...

@evanshlom1

Жыл бұрын

He still hasn’t developed it and he never will lol

@stanclark8824

Жыл бұрын

@@evanshlom1 exactly hahaha if he did, I'd be surprised. the only real thing he is doing is taking coffeezilla to court.

@kyberion

Жыл бұрын

The “who are you to decide” is so trash. Cause it’s been over a year since any update. It’s blaming coffee for him not doing work

@w0lfdog

Жыл бұрын

just when i thought “hey, maybe logan’s turning around”, he pulls this shit. he’s never gonna change with all that money in his pocket. the shit changes people like drugs.

@kyberion

Жыл бұрын

@@w0lfdog He showed a dead body and already got away with a crypto scam. He doesn't acknowledge accountability and growth only backlash

Logan did a nice bait-n-switch. Coffeezilla was talking about the eggs not being able to hatch crosschain on ETH, which logan even validates by saying, "it was working at some point." But Logan mainly points to the claim that eggs werent able to hatch on their native chain, when no one said that they couldn't.

@killaken2000

Жыл бұрын

Yes I think it's taken out of context because IIRC he was talking about a specific person and his ability to hatch.

@specialsause949

Жыл бұрын

@@killaken2000 that specific person say that the eggs couldn't hatch on the Ethereum side SPECIFICALLY.

@killaken2000

Жыл бұрын

@@specialsause949 specifically true

@kagato23

Жыл бұрын

I’ll admit this part threw me a bit. I assume Logan is full of shit based on everything else he said being so but I don’t understand this enough to know. As I recall coffee said it still wasn’t working when he released his videos, and Logan seems to be acting like that’s not presently the case at least? I’d appreciate clarification on what “native chain” means.

The point where he says " projects u r too stupid to take" . The honesty🔥😭😂😂

The first felon he talks about looks like if Walter White started the game on beginner mode

"He's not a real investigator" straight to "I learned Eddie was a scam artist who has scammed many people" How would he even trust Coffee if he's so inept?

@dahlia3237

Жыл бұрын

For real. In one tweet he says he respects him in another he says coffee is a "gossip channel trying to make a name for themselves"

@jelser23

Жыл бұрын

@@dahlia3237 he can’t help but contradict himself

@Hrvatski77

Жыл бұрын

How do you know he found out through coffee

@remedy4thesoul

Жыл бұрын

@@Hrvatski77 In Coffee's video he literally goes TO Logan's manager with the info that Eddie is a scammer and they told him they "Trust the people who vouched for Eddie", so I'm pretty sure they heard it from Coffee first.

Logan has not changed he just knows how to hide his true self

@Milton..

Жыл бұрын

@Subtome253scammer dum dum

@arcy2056

Жыл бұрын

@SubbingToEveryoneWhoSubbsToMe bot alert

@Kilo_11

Жыл бұрын

100% the guy is a scumbag manipulator and he manipulated many people into thinking he is not the asshole he is

@joeyjojos5839

Жыл бұрын

He's shown that he's definitely still a dumbass- especially if he thinks that he's fooling anyone

@student99bg

Жыл бұрын

I have an impression that somebody wrote for him the script in this video and he is just reading it out loud

just gotta note that holy moly chrome tabs as slides is built different

Lmfao Ludwig "Alright, I'm pissed off" 😂

One thing I learned from my dad having his own company is that at the end of the day, it is the owner’s fault. If your employee has a royal f up, as the owner you take the blame and apologize. You hired the person, which means you vouched for them.

@emalinedickinson7492

Жыл бұрын

Most often, that's how it works, too. At least in agency law. Without direct stipulations there is some legislature in business law that CAN push blame solely on the agent, but at least from our 30,000 ft. view it looks like Logan is responsible for hiring the criminals lol.

The only thing Logan brought to the table with this video is that the phone call was illegal. Yet it wasnt because Coffee lives in Texas which is a one-party consent state, and federal law states the jurisdiction of where the recording device is located is the law that applies.

@kempolar9768

Жыл бұрын

Big shock that someone promoting crypto with the phrase "do your own research", did not in fact do his legal research.

@Bobbias

Жыл бұрын

@@kempolar9768 it's pretty hilarious seeing him out himself the entire time though.

@nikkoa.3639

Жыл бұрын

The only issue is that we don't know where Jeff was during the time of the call. If he was in California then there's a chance he'd get sued because often the case would go to the stricter state (as per the video by Shafer). HOWEVER, a journalist asking for comment gives reasonable ground to believe that ANYTHING that the person in question would say would be on record.

@SM-po9wf

Жыл бұрын

@@Bobbiashilarious. He admits to everything 😂

@Eserchie

Жыл бұрын

Of course, during said call Jeff acknowledges that he's being recorded, which means he's aware of it, which implies consent to the recording, since he did not end the call.

2014 wants its hair style back bro

the best part is he thinks the court will side with him after they find out bout his scam i guess he does not know how court works

The thing is, at the end of Coffee's videos he said that he really hopes that Logan completes the game and gives people what they were promised. He had hope for logan to pull out of this.

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

Even if he did mean that its just the "right move" to be the "good" guy regardless of what happens 😂

@Bodangers

Жыл бұрын

And Logan chose to dig himself a deeper hole

i like how his biggest defence is his team of scammers that he made to set up his scam

@tonikukoc1451

Жыл бұрын

Scam implies he got monetary gain out of it. He didn't. What Logan Paul did, wasn't a scam. It was poorly organized, recruited, rushed project. Logan Paul should be held accountable for that - irresponsibility and incompetence. Not for monetary scam. Coffezilla should be held accountable for the poor amateur journalism - he redirected story into a biased direction to attract higher attention. "Incompetence and irresponsibility" doesn't sell as a good as "scamming". Small investors should be held accountable for their poor risk management and finance handling. Yet, source of that can be found in human basic intelligence. And you cant really hold accountable someone for being stupid. Just feel pity for him.

@Sopsy_Hallow

Жыл бұрын

@@tonikukoc1451 you're just wrong. just because logan didnt profit of off his attemped scam does not make it any less of a scam. if you and a crew rob a bank and you get left behind with no money, you still robbed the bank also coffee literally did a good job. none of what logan said are good points. dev was arrested 20+ years ago? how is that relevant. one out of 9 or so of the victims that testified were potentially a scammer too? what does that matter, he's not every victim and even then it doesnt justify logan or make that guy any less of a victim

@tommyfanzfloppydisk

Жыл бұрын

@@tonikukoc1451 wrong, by law terms : stupidity and ignorance don't constitute an excuse to committing crimes. so unless you were completely oblivious of all the scamming actions (which he is not since there are text messages about market manipulation) or you're enough mentally retarded to not be able to understand textes and to be manipulate like a dog puppy by the others team members, but you should prove that with medical reports in court; If you pair up with shady characters, run a business , then the business turns out to be a scam, depending on what was your grade on the management stair ,you will be equally prosecutable as the other shady characters.

@JK7H

Жыл бұрын

Ibanez and jake the crypto king got monetary gain from it. This implies that the project was a scam, but the face and creator shouldn't be held accountable.

@kagato23

Жыл бұрын

@@tonikukoc1451 no, it was a scam. It’s just that Logan Paul got scammed within his scam. Logan Paul says right in these clips that kids are playing and loving this “game” and he knows that’s a lie as he says this. He could never deliver what he was selling.

@10:32 such a goated line that slides totally under the radar

I also really appreciated the creator responses where they make Logan's alleged game in one day by themselves.

this is probably the most genuine anger i’ve seen from mogul mail

Logan Paul getting absolutely ratio'd by outing himself as an incompetent narcissist in an attempt to say he isn't a scammer is absolutely amazing, and definitely the first treat of 2023.

@dangerousdays2052

Жыл бұрын

There will be many more treats to come this year. If we live long enough.

Fun fact logan Paul didnt even ask legal advice before threatening litigation..how do people still trust him is beyond comprehension

Instagram is deleting comments on Logan's posts talking about the scam LMAO💀

He tried use the criminals *he* hired as a gotcha moment against Coffeezilla? I-

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

Lp is a silly boy

Logan Paul trying to be taken serious is one of the funniest things i’ve seen

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

Strange that people do! 🤭

“He can’t keep getting away with this”

Yo great video, thanks for the insight at the end about narcissism. It makes a lot of sense

Can we just point out that Mogul Mail had multiple tabs of the same response video so that the overall presentation of the video would be buttery smooth? Truly the GOAT

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

Lol

It’s getting kinda funny to me how people are consistently shocked that random people on the internet do not have their best interest at heart.

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

It makes for good content, eat it up everyone! 🤷‍♂

@xen2125

Жыл бұрын

@@husepher facts though…I’m entertained

I love how the description of Crypto at the beginning is a description of literally all art, technology, and essentially anything monetizable.

is a jumpcut at 10:15 ? i could have sworn that at some point it was said the videos here would be unedited (not to be like accusatory or something im just confused,,)

Logan is just telling us about how he's surrounding himself with people he can't trust

@husepher

Жыл бұрын

Its really sad, I can't imagine how afraid he is 😢

@ArDeeMee

Жыл бұрын

He‘s just so helpless… 😞

@thepearlswirl

Жыл бұрын

@@ArDeeMee 😂

Lud put more work in on setting up all the tabs than Logan did on his response 😭

So much for staying out of controversy Logan. Hilarious start to the year.

this is my favorite channel. you have a real knack for this ludwig

That’s gotta be the most emotion lud has shown in a mogul mail by far

@ilievsaso

Жыл бұрын

wdym ludwig and mogul mail are 2 different people

I’ve never seen Ludwig so blunt he is usually the diplomatic one

@willcole9776

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Ludwig is standing up for Coffeezilla here. Logan is trying to use his larger audience to gaslight the world on what went down and I think Ludwig is saying “man that ain’t gonna happen on Mogul Mail’s watch”

@heinzarniaung2915

Жыл бұрын

@@willcole9776 def, I feel a lot of the internet listens to the tone rather than the words being said. Logan's obv using this from the way he speaks and the constant ad hominem attacks.

@sk-ig4wt

Жыл бұрын

its very funny how logan thinks coffee doesnt have people who will support coffee for example pretty sure charlie alone can do that , let alone ludwig and his own audiences

Logan Paul hiring conmen is “birds of the same feather flock together”. It’s not a bug, it was on purpose.

the thing about hatching the eggs is that it only worked the first few days at max and then shut down because it was too buggy. all footage of hatching eggs are from the start of november 2021 which was hatch day so one of his biggest points doesn't even make sense -_- i haven't been able to find footage from anything after november 2021

He should have just started with "I've made a severe lapse of my judgement and I don't expect to be forgiven"