Let me know your thoughts on the latest developments

@matthewgregory8218

4 ай бұрын

This could have been handled better. Like Ottawa in Labreton Flats. Finally something about, but Ottawas not out of the woods yet to. Calgary I think they have there Ariana thing actually getting done.

@matthewgregory8218

4 ай бұрын

14:18 also, Gary still at the helm Utica will win the cup way before my Sens and the leafs.

Meruelo intentionally shorted the bills at Gila River Arena to force an eviction. They weren't making headway on a move to Tempe, so he did it to force the issue, assuming Tempe would happen quickly. He, instead, got resistance from construction unions, since he planned on using his own contractors for the project. They outspent the Yotes 4-1 in neg advertising to sway the vote. Absolute bone-headed move. Too cheap to pony up a couple of million to, at least match, the advertising. I understand why the NHL would be severely skeptical of promises to build a multi-billion dollar site, and it appears after a deep-dive into Meruelo's biz practices, they finally saw the writing on the wall that this was nothing but empty promises. It breaks my heart as a Yotes fan

@chumpmtb2554

4 ай бұрын

The fans, the team, the organization had been wanting a move to Tempe for over 10 years, with no headway. Make no mistake, the fallout at Gila River was an intentional power play to force the move, then a complete fumble when it came time to convince the public to support it by not shelling out a couple million bucks to promote the new arena.

@slapshotjack9806

4 ай бұрын

No he didn’t he actually got ownership of the yotes when they were in the process of eviction

@rytr0nious

4 ай бұрын

Construction unions? Where are you getting this information? Arizona is a non-union state. Source: I work in project management for a billion dollar construction company.

@chumpmtb2554

4 ай бұрын

@@rytr0nious Who spent 2 million dollars to Meruelo's 200k in neg advertising?

@paulbarham1038

4 ай бұрын

A great pity! There's some good talent on the Coyotes. No doubt they would be competing for a playoff spot in the imminent future with good leadership!

Coyotes staff etc feeling "betrayed" is bullshit. If they wanna feelbetrayedthen feel betrayed by your state and citizens. The NHL did all it could to be there, and it was THE PEOPLE AND GOVT of Arizona that made it clear they do Not want a team.

@FischerFan

4 ай бұрын

Damn right! The prolonged circus that went on in Glendale did not do the Coyotes' reputation any favors. I believe this is why the vote in Tempe crashed and burned on them. Tempe residents saw those city council meetings in Glendale and they did not want their community to risk becoming Glendale all over again. BTW, I like your username initials!

@jediko610

4 ай бұрын

Naw, just Tempe. From what I’ve heard around town it was mostly old people voting against it and they were targeted with ad campaigns against pretty aggressively

@jediko610

4 ай бұрын

Most of us love the Yotes and don’t want them to leave

@franksharal5512

4 ай бұрын

​@@jediko610 yeah that fans at mullet arena are 70% other team fans

@malakaspawt3190

4 ай бұрын

Would kicking Katie Hobbs out and getting Kari Lake in help?

Yes I live Glendale Az . Had season tickets for 6-7 years during the white out days (years ) .This team has had too many owners, GM and coaches to ever be successful. Even the Great Wayne (99) didn’t make it happen. Very sad to see the team leave after all the years in Glendale, Tempe but now I know how the fans in Winnipeg must have felt when the team came to Phoenix. Not sure who my new favorite team will be to follow but I know not Las Vegas 👎 maybe Dallas or Colorado or because I am from Detroit maybe old school team . Just FYI I was at the first Phx Coyotes game I think 🤔 my tickets were $35-40 each back then . Hold on to your seats as when I tried to buy tickets to the last game for two (all on resale) they ranged from $1300 to the highest $10,000 for two . Resale prices are insane and I hope some day a Rattlesnake bites them in a$$! Actually I think this might be the best for the team and wish them well in the future !!! Ken

I can tell you from personal experience Ryan Smith is a awesome guy. He's type that you never know he's a billionaire. Plays ball at local Y. Helps homeless. Young kids. Those Coyotes players are gonna like him.

@thestormofwar

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. Smith's a good dude overall.

@rhyta5042

4 ай бұрын

@@thestormofwarThat may be but many hockey fans remember how Miller​ screwed over the Eagles. Don't want to give my money to the Jazz owner.

@keithwarren9868

4 ай бұрын

He was great on the oilers

@rhyta5042

4 ай бұрын

@@keithwarren9868 ☺️

@TheBlazersfan22

4 ай бұрын

Salt lake is such a nice city too. I dont know why they would hate it. I have been there twice. Its a great city.

About time this mess was cleared up, black eye for the NHL in years, should have moved to Quebec or even Hartford

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

Im with you!Im SO happy the circus is over with! Atlanta doesnt want hockey & Phoenix doesnt want hockey. Plenty of other markets to try.

@ogieoglethorpe3788

4 ай бұрын

hartford and quebec are never getting their teams back.

kudos to the various levels of Government in Arizona..... No more welfare money to pay for the office space of rich owners and players. Pay for your own rink

@davidkruse4030

4 ай бұрын

Well all they asked for was to pay to clean up a waste dump. Which btw they are going to have to pay for anyways

The coyotes have never made a penny of profit in their entire existence. They lose millions every year. You can't run a business like this for ever. Likely why they kept changing owners. They eventually all got tired of shelling out millions of their own cash to support a losing team. This move should have happened 10 years ago...

The only reason the NHL is allowing the current owner to potentially bring back the Coyotes as an expansion team is because they want to be able to get the team out of there quickly without getting sued by him and holding up the process. So they appease him and leave the door open but they know damn well in 5 years time he isn't going to have bought land, put in sewage, water, built a brand new NHL caliber arena and tick all the boxes. They for sure don't actually intend to have that be a thing.

@tonyc8752

4 ай бұрын

Then why don’t you do it? Or why doesn’t the state do it? This is why Arizona is about to have no team. Because they won’t lift a finger… they demand someone else do it while making it almost impossible to

@cushiterevenge5696

4 ай бұрын

​@@tonyc8752 Why should the Arizona state government purchase the Coyotes? Are you serious ?😅

@FischerFan

4 ай бұрын

@@tonyc8752 For one thing, the Coyotes are much less of a priority than, for example, the Diamondbacks. MLB has thrown the same curve ball at the D-backs that it did at the Milwaukee Brewers and is pressuring the team to renovate their stadium.

@jfkst1

4 ай бұрын

No the league wants a team in a large growing city like Phoenix.

@gregorybiestek3431

Ай бұрын

@@jfkst1 It now looks like Arizona will not be on the NHL radar for a very long time- The Land Auction that was supposed to take place on June 27, 2024 has been cancelled until Alex Meruelo get all of the special zoning permits and exemptions. That means NO arena anytime in the next five years.

Coyotes ownership always been a joke. I think the NHL is sick of murelo and want to move on.

@FischerFan

4 ай бұрын

At least Jerry Moyes dealt with the reality of the market.

@beckerlegjames

4 ай бұрын

Jerry Moyes moved the Coyotes to Glendale on land he owned. Steve Ellman knew it would not work for the team in Glendale.

@comicbookcountdown9252

4 ай бұрын

I think the NHL is sick of the politics in Phoenix/Maricopa, as well. It isn't just the ownership that is a problem - I doubt the NHL will place an expansion team in Phoenix again given all the problems with getting an arena built. Those problems will still exist even if Mereulo isn't the potential owner.

@ozzmoises

4 ай бұрын

@@beckerlegjames trust me I know they made piss poor decisions for years, team should have left a long time ago

It's a mindset Mike. Some businessman are always trying to get over. They constantly feel like they're over paying or getting ripped off. I knew Merullo was like that--if he could get away with stiffing someone he would. It doesn't mean he didn't have the money. The NHL has their own reasons for paying him 1 billion. They want to keep the franchise value up. That's a billion each (practically) for two not so great markets Ottawa and Phoenix. That's how they will rationalize the crazy franchise fees they are going to charge. You have a lot of integrity in business. Others like former Presidents use bankruptcy as a weapon to pay less to the entities owned. One thing not clear that if Merullo builds a stadium what is his franchise fee to get the Coyotes back?

@gregorybiestek3431

Ай бұрын

It now looks like Arizona will not be on the NHL radar for a very long time- The Land Auction that was supposed to take place on June 27, 2024 has been cancelled until Alex Meruelo get all of the special zoning permits and exemptions. That means NO arena anytime in the next five years.

As a Jets fan, 2 months ago everyone was baselessly saying that Winnipeg was going to relocate. Bettman had to put the rumours to rest and address that it was complete BS. I told people then that it was the yotes that were moving next and I was ridiculed for telling it like it is. Fast forward to today & I feel vindicated. Best of luck in Utah Yotes

Why aren’t they not paying their bills? They can’t sell out a 5000 seat arena for starters😂

The ownership had me duped too. Terrible of them to cheer lead, mislead, gaslight while all the while behaving as they apparently have been behind the scenes. I would never want them anywhere near an NHL team again.

@tonyc8752

4 ай бұрын

Arizona lured them from Winnipeg with false promises. Got em in state and told them to F off and wouldn’t allow a venue

@willp.8120

4 ай бұрын

Let me introduce you to Atlanta Spirit Group, LLC.

I had not heard about the unpaid hotel bills, though I am not surprised. It's sad for the employees who have poured their guts into the team, but you can only put so many torniquets on the bleeding. Those of us in SLC do not have ill will towards them. Ideally we wish the turn of events were different and hopefully afyer this would be official, that many Coyotes employees get a chance to stay in the new organiztion, who wish too. We wholeheartedly welcome the team, players and the league. Their is a rabid interest in.the NHL here, and are excited at the potential move here.

Man,oh,man--this whole thing is heating up fast--Looks like Salt Lake City is going to happen.

lol players and staff feel betrayed? I’m sure all of them would like to get traded off that high school level hockey team 😂

@nk7570

4 ай бұрын

Clearly you dont watch the yotes. They have the best under age of 24 pool of players eva. The team is loaded with skill.

@slapshotjack9806

4 ай бұрын

@@nk7570 is that why they’ve been at the bottom of the standings for the last 28 years?

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

@@jg6693 De-Nile isnt just a river in Egypt! LOL

@nk7570

4 ай бұрын

@@slapshotjack9806 so when i say the best 24 year old and under roster that means that those players have only been in the league playing 1-4 years right? So the previous 28 years has nothing to do with their talent pool right now you mor0n.

@nk7570

4 ай бұрын

@@jg6693 oh really? what about it? The fact this team was 6 wins over .500 only half way through the season this year and then internal rumors of a move to some other city sent them on a 14 game skid.

I don't get why they didn't just play their home games at the 12,000 seat Arizona Memorial Coliseum in downtown Phoenix while waiting for the new arena issue to get solved. They have played hockey there since the late 60's and its still a cool venue.

@djc1013

4 ай бұрын

The NHL has regulations regarding locker rooms, 17:25 , media areas, etc.,. The building would need a couple hundred million to get it up to NHL standards. That said, as a fan who has been to many hockey games there, I would love that!

@Politano1955

4 ай бұрын

@@djc1013 But the Mullett Arena was better? I was just thinking a temporary fix until a new arena could be built.

@djc1013

4 ай бұрын

@@Politano1955 It is when it comes to modernization and amenities. Mullet is only two years old. So it’s top notch, just small. The madhouse on McDowell is a pretty rough building. Also, the league has standards regarding the equipment that keeps a sheet of ice. I don’t know for certain, but I’m assuming it’s probably not the best ice at VMC. This was also one (of many) of the issues with going back to Glendale temporarily. They sold off all their rink equipment and it would cost them an absorbent amount of money to buy more that meets the NHL standards. In the eyes of the fans, I think it would work, just not the NHL. The reality is that The Mullet is not the big problem. It’s the lack of belief in this ownership group that they can deliver on building a new arena in a 3-year window.

Well that’s not right. NHL was paying the bills a couple of years ago and they went out and acquired players. Now they are moving to a different city and are going to be allowed to plunder the free agent market? Is the NHL really going to allow that?!

@QuentinDude

4 ай бұрын

Arizona-is-way-under-the-salary-cap-and-this-is-a-great-situation-for-the-new-owners-for-sure.

its over for arizona, they have had their chances. move the damn team

@TheToiletCushion

4 ай бұрын

Heck nah, just give Utah the new expansion team, don’t give them our team

@erikschuster4293

4 ай бұрын

@@TheToiletCushion dude Arizona has HAD their chances, at this point what else can be done, they last thing we need is another expansion team

@bobbitchin781

4 ай бұрын

@@TheToiletCushionyour team is actually Winnipeg’s team. You were just borrowing it!😂

@FischerFan

4 ай бұрын

@@TheToiletCushion Sure, let the puny fan base in Arizona keep draining League revenues for another 28 years. Talk about selfish! The NHL is a BUSINESS, NOT a charity!

@FischerFan

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbitchin781 Isn't it sad how a legacy that was launched with Bobby Hull's signature over 50 years ago, and then gave him the best Swedish and Finnish players at the time, and built a team that made headlines around the world, has deteriorated so badly into the situation we have now?

The Coyotes have been barely signing players and taking on LTIR to reach cap floor. Clearly the guys who have been there along time need a change before moving to SaltLake. Schmaltz,Keller ect aquire top prospects/picks and sign big time free agents like a Lindholm,Guentzel maybe make a deal to get Zegras to play with Cooley,Geekie,Guenther,Simashev,Moser,But,Hrabel,Lamouroux,Doan. A prospect they drafted in 2nd round Duda played last year KHL and this year instead like normal playing CHL/ECHL/AHL. Is playing for Ouaa for Toronto University.

I actually heard some place that Stan Kroenke was interested in purchasing the team if the team move to Salt Lake City. It might have been a rumor. If they move I see a lot of the Coyote players go to other teams as a friendly deal. If they move to Salt Lake City, the Coyotes was in the Central Division. Colorado would move to another division. What was Bettman connection with the Coyotes.

If this is all true about Merullo, I don't understand why the NHL would want to work with Merullo again down the road with a new Arizona expansion team...

@zachhaist6426

4 ай бұрын

They're confident he won't get the new building and I doubt this is in writing

Call them the Utah “something” as opposed to the Salt Lake City “something’s”

@davechan8613

4 ай бұрын

Salt Lake City Slickers 😆

@SmithWesson90

4 ай бұрын

Keep them the Yotes!!! SLC or Utah whatever Just keep them the Coyotes!!! Best dam logo in the NHL your fools for wanting to change it. Your lucky your getting them don't ruin it with a reinvention.. Same way the Jazz stayed the Jazz keep the Yotes the Yotes!!!

you would be foolish to think the league wasnt putting this plan together for the last year in case they couldnt get an arena deal. the only way the NHL comes back to arizona is if they can find someone other than meruelo to be the owner

Will all the draft picks Arizona/salt Lake city could do a complete 180 within two seasons

even if team sold and relocates to Utah, could keep an Arizona Coyotes or other team in Arizona going as independent AHL team?

There will not going to be a PhX hockey in the future. The whole sport is shring in popularity

I went to ASU when the Jets moved to Arizona & became the Coyotes. The area fell in love with the team. However for the first decade with all the transplants many of their fans, the yotes were their 2nd favorite team. I & my friends went to games wearing our Kings gear. Even if they weren’t playing the Kings. The problem was moving to Glendale ownership kept making screwing over fans & business associates.

@jasonfire3434

4 ай бұрын

They were never one of the top teams in attendance though, even when they were good, and the times they did sell out it was usually because of Red Wings/Blackhawks/Rangers snowbirds in town. That’s not sustainable long term. Glendale obviously didn’t do them any favors

What a sad mess the team in,,just move the team,, start fresh nexts year starting to be a drama

Not betrayed. It is a league with a salary cap. So every player on every team has been betrayed by the NHLPA

It is what it is! Have to start off by blaming AZ regarding arena deal!

Golden Eagles return!

Is there any truth to the rumor if Arizona relocates to Utah then Utah and Colorado would go into the pacific Division with Edmonton and Calgary moving into the Central Division ?

@jasonfire3434

4 ай бұрын

Have not heard that anywhere and I highly doubt that. Why would the league separate the Canucks from the Flames and Oilers?

The team could have made the playoffs this year with the current lineup. The coach said the other night in Vancouver the 14 game losing streak started the day the Utah rumors started and ownership never addressed the rumors. The team’s play fell off a cliff and it cost them the chance to make the playoffs. I watched several great games at the Mullet this season. Disappointing if they bail on Arizona.

@ElmerFudd16

4 ай бұрын

They would've gotten annihilated in the playoffs

@kurukotaktay

4 ай бұрын

What a joke! Arizona management has had waaaaay to chances to fix things and didn’t! As someone else said, they’ve been a “black eye” on the NHL for faaaaar too long!

Cooley and guenther to boston?

C'mon the Players & Staff had to see this coming I mean this whole fiasco has been going on for 12 years the fact is is no one in Arizona cares about hockey & that took this long for the league to finally realize this completely ridiculous when this team should of been move to Hamilton over decade ago .

On April 18, Smith Entertainment Group, led by Utah Jazz and Real Salt Lake owner Ryan Smith, will purchase the Arizona Coyotes from Alex Meruelo for $1.3 billion, including a relocation fee of $195 million to relocate the Coyotes to Salt Lake City. On June 27, the NHL Board of Governors will approve both the sale and relocation of the Coyotes to Salt Lake City in a 30-2 vote, only Stan Kroenke of the Colorado Avalanche and Bill Foley of the Vegas Golden Knights will vote against it, so next season, the Coyotes will relocate to Salt Lake City after 28 seasons in the Phoenix area and use Delta Center as their temporary home until their new downtown arena is constructed, built, and open in 2026 or 2027.

If this happens, as a life long salt Laker, I’m sorry to ALL Phoenix Coyotes Fans, and as A Utahn… for the love of Joseph Smith PLEASE DO NOT CALL THEM the Utah Yeti’s. Being back the “Salt Lake Golden Eagles” but I can see that with Vegas having “Golden” in the name, this could be difficult to have another “Golden” in a hockey name that is down the road (I-15) by 8 hours. But please don’t call them the Utah Yeti’s… that about as horrible as the Seattle Kraken 🤮. How about the “Utah Lakers” but still.. The Salt Lake Golden Eagles, for those of you who don’t know, that was the first hockey team in the Salt Lake Valley to play. they played in the old salt palace. Before I was torn down and Larry H Miller sold the team. But the logo was killer and the colour scheme was amazing. But I have been hearing that tickets will start out at $90 and go up from there… and I can tell you right now that not a lot of people in Utah are going to pay $90 for one ticket. Especially if they have to drive out to the west side of the valley. (i.e. that is where the Utah Grizzlies play.. and nobody from the east side likes to drive out to West Valley. But the Delta Centre is not made for hockey… so I am very interested for team does move to Utah where there are going to play. Because I guarantee you that the cheapest tickets are $90 nobody is going to drive out to the west side of The Salt Lake Valley. I guess Mr Ryan Smith has a conundrum on his hands.

I feel he must lost a ton of money.its hard to believe that people are surprised they are moving.

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

They are surprised because bettman seemed hell-bent on keeping them in arizona no matter what! They should have moved 15 yrs ago! But Bettman was willing to have the NHL bail out the franchise, so everyone figured as long as bettman was chairman, The yotes would be in arizona somehow.

@dennisjordan4952

4 ай бұрын

@inconnu4961 I figure by my calculations the yotes had to have lost close to a billion dollars by now.with that said how long you keep bailing out a franchise that literally has made zero profit.realisticly Hamilton should have had this team 15 years ago.

Meh, you could see this coming half a country away, so anyone feeling betrayed wasn't paying attention. Arizona has through action or inaction, regardless of what any of the politicians might have said, made it clear they do not want the Coyotes. Having a pro team is a competition with other cities and if you snooze you lose. It is hard to justify staying with the current political situation when SLC wants the team.

Not even a Yotes fan but I’m really sad the best NHL logo will be gone

@ElmerFudd16

4 ай бұрын

*Detroit Red Wings (among others) have entered the chat*

@Iliketoboard

4 ай бұрын

Chicago Blackhawks have entered the chat.

@jasonfire3434

4 ай бұрын

New Jersey Devils have entered the chat

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

The California Seals have stumbled into the chat "hey, guys!"

I can just imagine the groups of documentarians lining up outside the Netflix office pitching their ideas for the mini series coming out in the fall, regarding this whole debacle. It'll be must see TV! Btw, Meruello makes out like a bandit after all in the end to secure a billion dollars for this stain on the desert floor. Not worth anything close to that. NHL covering their asses and losing again.

The Truth will out....eventually.😊

Will the Utah players have to wear the magic Mormon underwear under their gear?

Bettman should be fired for allowing this situation to happen

It'll be nice to have Salt Lake hosting us while we get our arena built in AZ... 😬😬😬

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You should be a comedian! You're really good!

@davidsmith9

4 ай бұрын

@inconnu4961 hey I tried!

Yall are dumb if you change the name. . Best logo in the NHL next to Chicago. KEEP EM THE COYOTES !!!!!

Gee! A self proclaimed Billionaire not paying his bills? Sounds familiar. #theformerguy

@thestormofwar

4 ай бұрын

Bazinga!

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

Nobody likes to pay their bills, so dont feel bad when you dont pay yours! LMAO

@JFoxman

4 ай бұрын

@@inconnu4961 Wrong! Unlike the Deadbeat Former Guy, I pay my debts.

Pro sports....they dont care abt the fans. . All $$$$$$.... Disgusting

A fitting end to an embarrassment of a franchise. Sorry if you live in Phoenix or wherever they play now and you like the team. But this club has been heinously mismanaged for over a decade.

Do you just watch Elliot freedman and regurgitate it ??

@ElmerFudd16

4 ай бұрын

LMAO Elliot is a great insider. Cope and seethe.

Who cares about the team or staff. Boo hoo.

Betrayed?? Give me a freaking break - this has been an inch away from happening for 10+ years!!! Cry me a freaking river. You're making millions a year - no one gives a shat if you need to move cities to continue playing pro hockey. Quit being a baby. These players and staff can get bent,

For perspective, Donald Trump didn't pay his bills. The standard answer was "Sue me", Little guys like suppliers and employees are the one's left holding the bag. This is why the NHL needs to do a better job vetting owners

@iamnewfie1

4 ай бұрын

And Biden pays his

@inconnu4961

4 ай бұрын

I have NO idea what Donald trump has to do with Hockey. I wish you people would have vetted Joe Biden better before you elected that conman! We all wouldnt be BROKE right now!

About time, Arizona has been a joke from it's inception

The NHL played woke race card, and I hope its a lesson learned that just cause of race, you shouldn't make it easier.

Theyre finished as an organization

Betrayal? Honestly. This is a green issue. 💸 Sport arena jobs are seasonal. The people in Cleveland tried to make it personal when the Browns left. Then they came back. I didnt see any victims bitching then. 🏒🥂