“I’m not going to speculate”. Begins to speculate 😂

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Speculating on things that I know nothing about is just a guilty indulgence 🤥

Grain dust like that only takesa spark and boom! Hella fire!

That would've been a MASSIVE conflagration if that dust cloud found an ignition source.

This was the first time i've watched one of your videos. I'm impressed , I subscribed to your channel looking forward to more videos. Glad no one is hurt and that elevator collapse. God was watching out for everyone around there

Enjoyed your video. Years ago on elevator in our area built a new bin When the bin was about full the bolt heads started to pop off. It sounded like a 22 rifle shot. We all started to haul corn out of it and it didn’t explode. The bin company came back and replaced every bolt. No one was hurt now I look back and it was like being back in the service. Pop and you would hear or see a bolt head go by.

As a farmer they are not engenearing grain bins heavy enough when you get that big. Corn has gotten a lot denser. 56 lbs per bushel is now 60 to62 lbs per bushel. That extra 5 lbs times 800,000 bushel is a lot of weight.

@jerfle7787

5 ай бұрын

I agree with you. Oddly enough beans are going the other way now. Should be 60 lbs per bushel. This year we had as low as 52 come in. Usually, average around 55. I am an elevator superintendent.

@acesonflush346

5 ай бұрын

​@@jerfle7787 The swing on test weights of any crops from year to year is very interesting to say the least.

I used to be a volunteer firefighter, once had a building collapse due to weight of water on the roof. The drains were all blocked and roof collapsed due to weight of the water

Hi Andy. I just saw this on your channel. We had just been by there. We drove over from Indiana to buy some combine belts. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. I’m so glad it didn’t happen during the day. Your coverage of this and your comments about it were very informative. God bless

Interesting that you use the tanker to mix your chemical and water together. How do you avoid chemical cross contamination? Where we are we only use tankers to haul fresh water to the sprayer and then add the chemical as you fill the sprayer.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Our herbicide plan is arranged in a way where the sprayer is only running on 1 crop type at a time. It allows an intermediary period to clean everything out between crops. It's not too difficult.

The elevator a couple of miles from us had a bin collapse several years ago. We were outside working on the combine & we heard it when it collapsed. Luckily there was nobody hurt because somebody happened to drive by & noticed a crease in the bin & called the elevator & everybody was able to get out. The scale house was destroyed. Then some years later they had an explosion & the scale house was destroyed again.

We had two grain bins that were made of corrugated metal, and they started to buckle, by making the corrugations smaller. It was most likely caused by the weight of grain on each rib adding up for the whole height of the structure. As soon as we emptied each bin, we installed vertical metal buttresses, to take the downward forces.

I’ve learned that all the farmers core their bins, which makes total sense. It’s like fermentation, the center gets the most FM, would hold heat & moisture under pressure. I’ll tell ya, the farmers who’ve put the reclaim system on their sprayers love them. They said it saves chemical too bc they’re not have to flush the system out between chemicals. I’m sure you’ll keep us posted on what you think!

The 20yrs i been in grain business, i have been around 3 bin collapsings. They way that one came apart, I would lean to faulty anchor bolt install and the way stiffners were tied in. Lot of times new structures are slapped together and follow up quality control is overlooked or forgotten. Harvest time go go go!

Hi Andy, thanks for sharing your day with us. That bin collapse was bad but on the bright side, at least they're getting some dry weather to clean it up. I cant imagine the smell if the corn got wet and started to rot.....Thankfully no one was hurt....

Get out the shop vac's fellas .... gotta pick up this corn.

lol, said "Arcola" out loud and all five cats came running for food. Grew up in Pesotum. glad I found a channel I can pay attention to sorta local to there. I've told people about the land being so flat that you end up with tiger stripes instead of cow spots of wet and dry when you look by satellite. A disk set that isn't balanced front-to-back can cause enough spread or gather to leave shallows on each pass! I figure the had a fan out of balance or a couple harmonizing for too long attached too hard to the bin. Corn. That record harvest of 623b/ac last year I figured to be an almost continuous single laying-flat layer of kernels across the harvested acre. Seems like a fun handy number!

We came up with vaccumes just for this kind of accidents... our vaccumes are made in different sizes for different kind of accidents... we also have 18 wheelers in different sizes to carry stuff like this... rigs with hoppers unless you want your corn stored in your own bins, we have long hoses that can reach 1000 ft from the accident sight...

Thanks for the update Andy!

In the days of sail, grain shipments were a real danger....not from explosion, but from expansion. Wheat or particularly rice absorb water and catastrophically swell-up, splitting the hull open at sea. And wood and early iron hulls leaked. Grain ships left Australia for Europe and were never heard from again.

Reminds me of: Great Molasses Flood {1919}, disaster in Boston that occurred after a storage tank collapsed on January 15, 1919, sending more than two million gallons (eight million litres) of molasses flowing through the city’s North End. The deluge caused extensive damage and killed 21 people.

Andy I am a structural engineer. I watched the video several times. The best I can tell the seam right where it’s still standing went first. Then you see the entire bin drop down, then the seam above the stiffeners goes next because it pours over the top of them. With a clean break all the way around like that, all it takes is one bad spot, or the stiffeners weren’t bolted down, and with that amount of weight above it,,,, down it comes. What I did notice are the new sheets on the other big bin that were replaced. I wonder if that bin had damage or sheets replaced where it failed. For strength I would think the stiffeners would be offset not a straight line all the way around in one spot. Like the sheets are offset where the connecting seams are at. That offset gives you a little more strength. Pure conjecture and glad no one was killed.

@prjndigo

5 ай бұрын

One of the fans was out of balance and hard-secured to the bin I'll bet. Corn has a nasty habit of being a wedge.

@darringstewart2360

5 ай бұрын

I am in southern IL. The corn had a high test weight (density) this year, probably due to the type of weather and that the corn was mostly dry at harvest. The bin may have had more tons of corn in it than ever before. I was hauling corn on wagons. Several of them broke stud bolts in the wheels. I have never had that happen before. I had to replace stud bolts and lug nuts. I told my dad not to fill the wagons so full.

@Look_What_You_Did

5 ай бұрын

Liar.

@stoneshrink

5 ай бұрын

@@darringstewart2360 I think you're onto something, given the major temperature changes over the course of this year (and relative humidity) - if it got moisture into the top of the bin and add one weak vertical seam and you get a disaster. I'm more curious about that ring that's between the bin and the road - it really does look like it burst

@godoftheinterwebz

5 ай бұрын

it is obvious that they were not monitoring the temperature of the corn. It started to ferment and producing methane. The pressure from the gas built up until a weak spot gave way and down she went IOW, the bin was destroyed by a giant fart

Had an old wheat bin failure few years ago from my area, tiny town. A proportion spilled on railroad track. They think ground had shifted

Have heard of others that have had collapses that the grain was being drawn from the bin and was not flowing in the center( coming) but was hung up and created a void to the side and with all the weight from above caused the side to buckle!

The neighbor "Its my corn now!"

Super interesting video. Thank you for sharing about the collapsed grain bin.

I am glad to see Dad is doing well.

I hope they are able to salvage the corn that was in their bin.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

They definitely will be able to.

In 2008 Cedar Falls had a once in 500 year flood and the CF Coop was only half a block from the river, well ya know what happens when dry stored corn gets wet ???? yea it expands and it split one of the main storage bins right up one side, now the Coop is far from the river in the new North Industrial Park. Twas one hell of a deal

Great content as always. Keep the action and knowledge coming. Definitely catchya at the next one. You all stay safe!!

Neat tanker, I would advice keeping the plastic cap, stainless thread on stainless thread can be more likely to leak. It can also be a pain to take stainless threads apart after prolonged use. Just keep the plastic cap and replace it every couple years if it starts looking brittle. It all depends on how often you plan on uncapping it really, plastic probably more user friendly.

You must look for a conveyor that is able to move on its own. Small engine runs hydraulic lines to wheels & raises & lowers. (I am sure you know what I mean) You can’t keep pulling & lifting. Once your back goes nothing will ever be easy. I know 3 back surgeries.

That busted grain bin is just 7 miles from my house.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Not too far!

Sorry to see the bin failure. ChemGro in Hillsboro, Iowa had a similar accident with a 900,000 bushel bin collapse about 10 years ago. Enjoy your videos. Thank you.

Vertical stiffeners. Most newer bins I see have vertical stiffeners that add significant strength to the grain bins.

I feel bad for the poor homeowner that lived right next door.

We have 29 bins, between 65k bu and 135k bu. GSI and Brock. We have vertical stiffeners on all of them. I'm wondering why the stiffeners are not used more.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I can't speak for commercial bins. On smaller farms bin, they always seem to think they are an unnecessary expense until you get beyond 9-10 rings.

@BigBagg69

5 ай бұрын

@@aTrippyFarmer thanks for the reply. Btw we are in the Quincy Illinois area. Nice to see another Illinois farmer on KZread. Just found your channel, subscribed. Love the content.

Glad I found this video!! This stuff is so cool! I know a little bit about farming but this scale is GINORMOUS!! Thank you and your family and helpers for what yall do. Y'all definitely keep this country fed and going. Pray y'all have a Great year.

Wow that’s crazy thanks for sharing

Interesting to hear the "Arcola" name again after not traveling from the Chicago 'burbs to Willow Hill, the south end of IL 49, to visit Grand folks in the 40's & 50's. Was the joke my folks told about Arcola, Tuscola, and isn't there a CocaCola? as we passed through the area in Dads Model A Ford a local joke too? Wow 800K bushels of corn bin collapse. Strikes me (now 84 yrs) that a picture I have of the wood grain elevator Grandpa built in Willow Hill by the R.R. probably in the late 20's or 30's was maybe only a few hundred bushels. Haven't been through there in decades now. Like the rest of the world things 'they has' changed all over. Living here in the Madison WI area for the last 50 years or so we've seen quite a change here as well. Good luck to you as you grow corn in that really flat part of Illinois. We've watched the farmers here grow crops to feed the cows, milk them and haul the milk down the road to either be bottled, or turned into cheese. Safe farmin' to you. JimM

I have seen this numerous times in my life and they always seem to follow a pattern. These problems usually arise when the decision is made to push warm, moist air through a cold grain mass with aeriation fans. I don't know why, but it is common practice among many to lower the temperature of the grain mass to subfreezing temperatures which has always gone against my better judgement. Yes, cold grain does store better for a longer duration, but other challenges will present themselves as weather conditions change around the storage facility. My THEORY on what is going on: Corn shrinks when it is dried and expands when it takes on moisture (within the kernel). Normally, the grain is already dry when it is placed in the bin and can be of any temperature. At some point, the decision is made to aerate the grain (a good practice) to lower the temperature of the grain mass to that of the outside conditions. Note, air temperatures are usually well below freezing during these winter months. Some time later, the grain is desired to be aerated, again a good practice that helps keep the grain in good condition. But the problem arises with using excessively warm, moist air. What happens next is that a rewetting front develops in the grain mass causing the the grain mass to expand. Stresses then rise in the structure to the point of failure. The process is highly analogous to what is experienced with freezing water pipes.

The problems some steel bin is ground shift or maintenance here western canada gov't start show up for inspection on grain terminal.the reason they go concrete cost lot more build but last long time.i saw some being scrap and rebuild in concrete here alberta.thanks video😮

My theory and conjecture is that this is a big mess! Glad nobody was hurt…..

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Great analysis!

Tell Marty to take it easy so he can have a healthy season

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

You can't keep someone like him down, even if it's for the best. He was made to work!

Used to go by that elevator on my way to work. I noticed you don't live to far from me I'm from Paris.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Yeah you're just to my northwest a bit!

Wonder if some of the bolts started popping and shearing before it went down? One a few years ago had bolts shearing before it came down. It was attributed too a worn die used to punch the bolt holes in the panels.

Bad deal for the elevator. Cole the Cornstar better get his court case solved soon before this happens to him.

fun visit - to teach us - gets our eye balls

You should see the amount of corn that went in the Mississippi River years ago at La Grange Missouri. Temporary blocked old 61 Which now bypasses LaGrange Missouri.

Have your tire dealer check that weather checking tire for possible warranty coverage on the casing. Typically if it is a Tier 1 Casing (Bridgestone or Michelin) the casing has an incredibly long warranty period - 8 years. There's a date code on the tire.

Gravity sucks. 😄 Great video!

Thats a big clean up!

i wonder if they have any empty bins to put the "clean" corn into? I would assume that the corn in the bottom section is still clean and the corn that is several feet deep would still be clean too. Hopefully there is concrete under the rest, but if they have an experienced skid steer or bucket loader operator they can recover the bulk of the corn without contaminating too much of it.

@larrythompson8630

5 ай бұрын

Any place with bunkers. They have a snowblower *low speed* front on a belt conveyer out back on self propelled unit. *never run one but looked it over*. It looks like they drive in, convey into trucks. My grain vac is rated 3000 BPH IIRC. But I figure self propelled unit get 5” from ground. Grain vac for rest.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I would assume that they will just move it down to the next user if they are spending money to load it onto trucks. Another commenter said it is being sent to Decatur, IL, which is about 40 miles straight west of Arcola. That is ADMs hub...absolutely ginormous grain processing city.

One like this happened in New Carlisle Ohio a few years back. A state route was closed for a week

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

It's crazy how much a mess the grain can make. I hope no one was hurt in your incident!

@jeffmcdaniel5826

5 ай бұрын

@@aTrippyFarmer no one was injured. A buddy just told me that there's a 1.5 million bushel going up in South Charleston Ohio.

Whoever put that plastic cap on needs to learn to weld cause that looks like it might leak lol but hopefully not

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I think there is an air pocket in there on purpose. There might be some kind of a gap in the shell that requires venting. I could be wrong... that's why you have to fill it with water before you put the expensive stuff in!

We had this happen to a 150,000 bushel bin about 8 years ago. It really is crazy the damage it can cause and the mess it makes.

@aTrippyFarmer

3 ай бұрын

It is good that no one got hurt there. It's crazy how dangerous some of these things are but we just don't ever consider the risk!

Good for y'all.... When reversing the cone, remove enough to pull the fines out that hold moisture and heat.....no more bugs and rotting grain

Your Neal Tire must be better than ours in Decatur. Literally stood behind a customer who had 2 day old tires that were leaking, and claimed no damage. Suspected leaking beads. And manager told him because he didn't buy a tire warranty, that if the beads were leaking he would have to pay regardless. Wouldn't even bring the car in to check their work over. Won't do business with the decatur Neal stores.

I would be very careful about using SS on SS it has a very bad habit of galling, the plastic cap should be well suited for what it is doing if you do use a SS cap be sure to use plenty of never-seize to help keep it from galling and don't over tighten. I was a pipe fitter for 40 yrs in a chemical plant I know a lot about SS.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I appreciate that insight. Maybe I will reconsider my plan!

I’m sure the insurance company will do an extensive investigation. Keep us posted. Scary stuff

Now your corn flakes are going up in price

@aTrippyFarmer

4 ай бұрын

Corn flakes are made of white corn...I think.

Happened in Minot, Nd around 2009

A lot of that grain is recoverable and hopefully it does not get wet. Reinforcement straps around various sections of the bin at the ring joints would help to stop a burst.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

It has been somewhat dry since that happened. I think it is almost completely picked up now.

It’s always so strange for me to flat ground as far as the eye can see being born & raised in PA. I’ve always had a mountain range on either side of me.

@derrickpettit86

5 ай бұрын

Yeah same here, I'm in western Maryland

@austinraywaltnerproduction1819

5 ай бұрын

worst part is if your dog gets out, you watch him run away for 3 days

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

It is both a beautiful and underwhelming landscape at the same time. It only gets more open by the day. Most farmers would rather not have tree lines in this area due to the negative effects on yield, so they rip them out if possible. I'd enjoy a nice hilly grove to hideaway in at some point 🤣

@chrissyfrancis8952

5 ай бұрын

@@aTrippyFarmer The only way we can see far is from lookout points on mountain tops. You’d get your fill of mountains & hills for sure! The Appalachian mountain range runs through our state.

@davidthorne2129

5 ай бұрын

Stop winging you yanks. Australia is the flatest country on earth. Nullarbor plain railway line over 300 miles dead straight and less than 1 foot change in elevation and NO TREES AT ALL. you can see the curve of the earth.

Andy, there was a guy who died in Toledo area when there bin collapsed in late fall of 2023. I believe it was just north of Toledo, Illinois

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Yes I heard about that. It's always a sad deal when that happens. I don't remember the details.

@SpaceCat25

5 ай бұрын

November 9th, Roger Swim, 64 yrs old. He left behind 1 daughter and 2 young sons. He was the best Dad..

@SpaceCat25

5 ай бұрын

It happened in town, in Toledo, IL.

Same thing happened at tgm in Toledo Il not too long ago. Unfortunately someone was killed.

There was a grain bin collapse at Miami Valley Feed & Grain, in New Carlisle, Ohio back in November 2020. They had to,clean up 10,000 tons of corn. I don’t believe they ever figured what caused it.

@martygantz6413

5 ай бұрын

Correction it was,January 2018

Where is your conveyor mover ? lol .

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I priced one after seeing the neighbor's... it would be cheaper to just start saving for my back surgery in a few decades than to get that option. Holy smokes are they expensive!!!

God bless

Think of the smell from all the rotting corn that they can't clean up. Uffda!!

that house gonna get brand new garage coming soon!! out of curiosity.... how much would that house owner get if he/she were able to sell the corn that is within the property lines. @15:31

there should be valves on the nozzles then a plug or a cap this way if need be the tank doesn't need to be empty.

my are the power poles closer to the road than in Canada

a local elevator put up a 600,000 bushel steel bin but discovered the contractor had used low strength counterfeit bolts and had to replace them all or that bin might have failed, like the one you showed, maybe it had cheap bolts in it too?

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

You never know where the builder cut corners to be the lowest bid. TGM bought this facility after the newest bin was built, so they didn't oversee anything. Maybe they need to add a full-facility inspection to all elevators of this size to make sure everything is the correct spec?

Thankfully it was corn and not oats/barley/wheat…would have been a fire and possibly an explosion. That time of day and the air condition probably helped. Moisture in the air.

@aTrippyFarmer

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. It could've been bad!

The bigger things man makes the greater the disaster upon failure.....all the birds crows deer and rodents are having a field day in that area.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Very true. The bigger they are means the harder they fall. I think it's all been fenced in temporarily, but I'm sure the mice/rats will be well fed for a long while!

Well here is the low down on this. I would like to know what year it was built. I’d like to know if this was a working bin (loaded and reloaded before emptied). Once you have this knowledge then we can discuss what happened. Simple as that.

If you put a stainless steel cap on that nipple it will have to be lubricated every use with nickel never seize or liquid graphite to prevent the stainless to stainless threads from galling. If the threads gall you’ll need a grinder to split the cap to prevent destroying the nipple threads. Think I’d keep the plastic.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Someone else said that. You all know more than me!!!

@paulwalker9921

5 ай бұрын

@@aTrippyFarmerworked in nuclear industry for years with stainless steel piping. Learned some of that the hard way, been there, done that but they wouldn’t give me the T shirt.

Replace the cap with a brass valve and put the cap after the valve. Stainless steel on stainless steel has a tendency to gall and then it's very hard to get them apart.

Get brass caps. That way they will not seize on. Check your chemicals to make sure the brass is compatible. Nice work otherwise.

wow

Wow thats a disaster.

I'm no expert, but I think scale houses usually sit next to the scale, not on top of the scale platform. It actually looks in pretty good condition considering it moved at least 20 feet.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Yes it does look like it was just moved. Some facilities have an actual hard-mounted building for the scale house.

It seems GSI bins are prone to collapse....

Hi Andy where are your combine 36 inch tracks ? Can you put then on s670

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

We have the tracks in one of our sheds. Im not sure about compatibility with the S670. I would like to think that they'd work. You just never know!

the other big bin looks bent would replace bothbins.

Why do use hot loads? How do you mix loads that aren’t?

@aTrippyFarmer

4 ай бұрын

We only get hot loads for the convenience.

Are there a lot of truck farms out there, here in Ohio we have Swamp farms/ vegetable farmers.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if I understand your question. Almost all farms here raise corn and soybeans exclusively. Once you get into the fertile black-lands, most farmers don't even grow wheat. The only specialty crops that you might see are occasional fields of seed corn, pumpkins, and seed soybeans (if you even count these as specialty). The combination of the soil type, topography, and climate make this area prime for corn and soybeans. With the right rains and drainage, people can raise 100 bushel soybeans and 300 bushel corn. That's not easy, but it is certainly within possible.

When I was watching it look like a failure in the thread ring.

I happened drive by 5 mins after it happened

that why they have the vertical beams on it.

That's what you get when you hire scabbs for your project

I wouldn’t want to live in that house right next to that elevator.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

You'd definitely be rethinking your location after this event. I'd be tired of listening to those gigantic fans howl during harvest and winter.

I wonder how many Todd & Seargent folks are watching... I bet a few...

Good Luck This Spring ! Be Safe. Work Harder AND Smarter ! And to think the metal, brick or concrete silos on farms used to last for decades; generations even, with proper construction and maintenance. Then we see farmers spend a million dollars on new metal grain storage sights and they aren't even put together correctly, much less functional . . . and the farmer has to sue the contractor. BTW. Just Venting. When I was a kid the only thing we did with corn was use it for food. Some went to granges to process into flour or livestock feed. Growing corn just to cook it into alcohol to 'water down' gasoline is adding insult to injury in half a dozen ways. If we needed sipping 'moonshine' we made our own. And don't get me started on the damage most of the 'fertilizers' we have been using since the late 1940's has reeked on the soil.

It could have been damaged years ago and just now failed. If you end up with a bad layer of corn it will heat up the bin bolts.

I'm sure you heard about the crazy event that happened at Sloan's in Effingham last week?

@derrickpettit86

5 ай бұрын

What's that?

@brianpayne8931

5 ай бұрын

@derrickpettit86 something fell out of the sky, through the roof of the shop and almost hit a couple of mechanics.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

I didn't realize that was at Effingham! Crazy story 🤣

@derrickpettit86

5 ай бұрын

@@brianpayne8931 geeze, that's crazy

Checking oil….you are too young to have experienced the “auto anti-rust” systems of Detroit Diesel.

😃😃😃👍👍👍👍👍👍

Airplane Bolts?

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

Straight from Boeing!

Quick question ... if that flammable dust would have ignited, would it have made 800,000 bushels of popcorn??, asking for a friend.

@aTrippyFarmer

5 ай бұрын

No. I don't think field corn can pop. If it can, I've never heard of it.