HUB COMPATIBILITY for 12, 11, 10 Speed, What Freehub? SRAM XD Driver, Shimano Micro Spline, HG, HG+
Hub or Freehub compatibility for 12, 11, 10, 9, 8 speed drivetrains/ MTB freehubs from #Shimano and #SRAM Upgrade options from 8, 9, 10, 11 speed to 12 speed drivetrains, #HUB compatibility - XD Driver, Micro Spline, and HG freehubs, all you need to know.
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0:00 Intro
00:19 Drivetrain options 8,9,10,11 Speed
01:02 SRAM XD Driver - 11 and 12 Speed
01:50 Shimano 12 speed, Micro Spline
02:11 Freehub Compatibility
03:18 MTB Freehub conclusions, summary
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@georgiofortuni2802
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB S.O.S my friend, please tell me how can I place a 12sp cassette on a 7sp road wheel? Do I buy a new wheel, a new hub, or I could just place one of those free hubs and job done??
@georgiofortuni2802
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I just watched your video again and I think I understand know.. I can keep my 7sp wheel by choosing to use one of the cheaper NX or SX or Deore 12sp cassettes.. Right? (I can only hope 7sp shimano hubs are using the same Freehub body as 8sp)..?
@georgiofortuni2802
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB ah OK, so I check the free Hub and if it's small then I shall buy a new wheel.. Thank you!
this is the only guy that can explain this idea with any kind of clarity.
@Iwasthewalrus
3 жыл бұрын
This dude is a legend. Answered my naive questions within minutes on Instagram. 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@TheC238
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the most helpful guy , very helpful videos, fast response, by far the best channel out there. 👌🏻👍🏻 TOP!
@Yousef95Alyarubi
Жыл бұрын
So true i had learned alot from him and im so thankfull
Dude, 4 years later, you are the first one to be clear as crystal about hubs. I spend hours before finding your vid. Many thanks, it helped me A LOT.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Glad to help 🤘
@nicespejo
24 күн бұрын
I wish I had found this video before ordering my new wheels 😂, Ive been riding bikes for years and didn't fully understand this 😂
Thanks again for another clear and practical explanation.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Outstanding!!
Finally a video that explains it in such a simple way. Thank you very much for making this.
Great short video. Very informative for us the new bloods in the game.
this is exactly what i was looking for! next week I'm going from 2*10 speed to 1*12 and now i'm sure it will fit :) thanks
Well and clearly explained! All the information that I need is here, thanks bro!
You are the GURU of freehubs! Thank you for a simple explanation.
Super simple explained, found all I needed to know, thank you so much
Very clear explanation. Thank you! Cheers! 🍻
You are the man. Thank you so much for your clarification of this subject.
thanks, havnt built a bike in 15 years and was getting up to speed on what could fit on the kinds of hubs that fit my old frame and this video helped me
Made everything very clear, thanks alot!!
Excellent 🎥. Very concise and simple. Thanks again for your work to put it together.
Thank you, the only honest hub guy!!!
2:40 this is what I needed to know. Thank you very much Greeting from Costa Rica. PD: Awesome video, BTW.
Thanks for that clarification. 💯
Simple video with needed info.. Great Vid.. Thank you
Very clear👍🏻 Perfect.Thanks!
Great explanation! Very useful, thank you. Currently have a Shimano Deore set up and considering upgrading my 3x9 to a 1x11.
Well done, very informative!
Best explanation about hubs. Everyone looking for information about hubs won't look any further.
So helpful thank you!
Perfect overview thank you
nice video, this was clear and helpful
This solved about an hour of "googling" trying to figure out how to upgrade my drive-train. Thank you!
Thanks for this, I'm starting to understand it🤗😁
Thanks for video!
This is the only video I've found so far, including from SRAM, which tells you that NX and up Eagle cassettes will fit a Shimano hub. Well done!
@danielmcnamara5273
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB What freehub do you suggest for NX? what is the one in the video? thank you
Thank you for your instructional video because I made the mistake by ordering a 12 speed deore cassette and didn't read that it was micro spline so instead of changing out my drive I'm sending it back and my local bike shop has a Sram PG 1230 12 speed cassette. Thanks again for your great instructional videos. Stay blessed and safe.
Thanks for this video man! I just bought an XD Freehub for my GX Eagle cassette and I was concerned that it said "11-speed" in the spec. I freaked out for about 5 mins until I ran into your video :)
Thank u this video helps me a lot 😀😀😀
Very helpful. Thank you
Wow. Great explanation. Thanks for keeping it short 👍
Amazing content!❤️❤️❤️
Why doesn’t this video have more likes?? This is a very helpful video!!!!!
Tnis was very helpful. Thank you.
Super helpful video. Thanks.
That was great thanks.
Thank you so much!
Finally someone answers the question of converting my 3x10 to a 1x12! Been researching for quite a while and was giving up going to a 12 speed with my current wheel until this. I've been wanting to convert my 2012 Trek Rumblefish 29er to a 1x and now it appears with the right 12 speed groupset, it should be easy. Thanks!
@OriginalFallofMind
Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind new bikes are also set up with geometry for 1x. Just because you can doesn't mean it will be right. Off chain lines can cause chain drops, excessive and premature wear on components. BB and crank width plays an important role. Chain guides and early narrow/wide sprockets were only temporary bandaids to technology, not solutions.
Great explanation, m still using free hub style 11-50 tooth gear
you just read my mind..you know the answer..good job.
Cool, thanks!
I really needed this right now. Only been riding MTB for a year and now im replacing parts on my "El Cheapo."
@ralexlu
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB thanks I will check it out
I have a plan on upgrading my mtb to 12 speed this coming november and I have an HG Shimano freehub body and I was kinda unsure whether the 12 speed cassette would fit or not. After watching this video I really learned a lot and gained more knowledge about the technical know hows of my bike, thank you for the informative and simple vid, thanks a lot, cheers from the philippines
@muhammad-Redha
Жыл бұрын
Hi, whats the result? You were able to install a 12-speed hg cassette in your free hub hg 8-11s? I intend to do the same
@nakii7624
Жыл бұрын
@@muhammad-Redha yo it worked out well as long as you have a compatible shifter to pair with the derailleur
@muhammad-Redha
Жыл бұрын
@@nakii7624 thank you so much
Absolutely THANK YOU
The idea with HG cassette core was to move the bearings from the middle of the HUB to be more closely as possible to the dropouts. It was very common in the time of "free wheels" cogset to have the axle bent. Unigllide and then HyperGlide manage to fix that problem. XD and MicroSpline moves the drive side bearing far from the dropouts. From an engineering point of view this is a step back. HyperGlide is a superior design. XD and MicroSpline works because now we have better materials than we had 30 years ago and the axle is an oversized pass though. But the only real benefit of XD and MicroSpline is the 10T cog: nothing more, nothing less. No wonder the only solution for 135mm QR is the FH-MT500, and maybe this is going to be the less reliable MicroSpline HUB in the lineup (but id does have a oversized axle, tough).
@AlvaroKuolas
4 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB you are right on XD, but on Shimano MicroSpline Freehubs the bearing its in the same position as the cassette core pawls, far away from the dropout. Thank you for your videos. On one of your videos I saw that the MicroSpline Aluminium core gets bites from the cassette: that's another drawback for the new system.
Why doesn’t this video have more likes?????? This such a helpful video!!!!
Very informative video thank you...
Good info!
Succinct and to the point. Good job.
Thank u so much 👍👍👍👊👊👊
thanx, much helpful
Well done and concise explanation. Thank you!
Tnx for the info
I wish I had it 1 year ago, before expending many hours trying to understand it;-)
great video... thumbs up
Thank you for this simple and easy to understand video as always. 👍
Hi, I have a question to the bike marlin6 (2019) like the one in your videos, can i put the micro spliene without changing the entire mass?( It is the best video I have seen explaining this) thanks
The reason Shimano is using the older style free hub on the Deore 12 speed system is so that those that have older bikes can upgrade to 12 speed without tossing out a working hub. Makes perfect sense to me. You have an older bike you choose Deore. Anything newer you go with XT or XTR.
This vidoe is great
I have the Deore M6100 rear derailleur\cassette combo and can confirm that it DOES use the new Microspline standard :)
Shimano now makes FH-MT500, a QR micro spline compatible freehub for those of us still riding QR frames. As far as I know it is the only QR micro spline rear hub on the market.
@amermeleitor
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB i think Shimano in the future will only make Micro Spline. As i see they are replacing the standar completely
Clarity in under 4min. Thank you.
What size of allen key do you need to remove a deore m6000 QR freehub body
very good!
Great video! What freehub body will be compatible with a shimano slx 11speed cassette. I’m new to the sport.. lol
Thanks heaps you explained it perfectly 👍
What can you tell me about that very last wheel you touch in the video? The Roval. I have a boosted wheel that looks just like this one and I want to upgrade to micro spline but I have no idea who makes a hub that would suit it. Any help would be appreciated.
Your videos are so good. I was wondering, do you have a video about the selection of new parts for a new bike? I am considering sram 12 speed vs shimano 12 speed.
Thank you
Very helpful ! It was near impossible to find information on converting my 1990 mountain bike which has a Shimano 3x 6 speed. I ordered a new freehub that is 135 mm to rebuild my wheels that will support the Shimono 11S. So my plan is to put the teagra 4700 group set (2x10) on this bike and convert it to a gravel bike. I had a hard time understanding free hub compatibility and if I understood your video correctly this will work perfectly.
@flyinlo1474
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I am still confused on whether MTB and Road Freehubs are exactly the same length. Is the MTB freehub 2mm shorter (narrower) than the Road Freehub?? Or, do all Older style freehubs come in the same length whether MTB or Road? If the MTB freehub is 2mm shorter that means I can run an MTB 11s Cassette on the Road freehub (with a spacer), but not run an 11s Road Cassette on a MTB Freehub (as the cassette would be 2mm too long). I could not find any other videos that explained this like you did. Thank you!!
@flyinlo1474
3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Last and final question. You just don't know how helpful this has been! Where can I order a replacement "road" freehub (just the slotted hub part only, not the whole assembly. I would assume that I could remove the MTB hub part (not sure what you call that) and replace it with a Road hub that is 2mm longer.
Would you say that the new Deore 12s 6100 series is the main feature of the 3 new Deore? Im judging it based on the microspline technology which they only applied on the 12s, not on 11s nor 10s.
So I can fit 12 speed sram sx or nx to my 2018 marlin 6 stock freehub, right?
Which hub is required by the AdventX Derailleur+cogs? The old Shimano? In the past, I read that it used a freewheel.
Much Much Much Much appreciate. This is exactly the information I am looking for answers. I am building my own bicycle now and with modern technology. things changed and new things came up, making things a lot more complicate when purchasing parts. I m very worried to buy rear gear group since there are freewheel and cassette types. The wheel I purchased is using spine type (old model), meaning I have to avoid buying free wheel (which is like the SRAM XD hub) type gear group........ with your information, now I know I can still use SRAM, but need to select the NX line.
@everest0411
4 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Thank you. Mix match is not a problem.. Just.... I have to be careful how to fit 11 gear group onto a cassette body that was designed for 10 speed and my rear chamber spacing is 135 mm... There are a lot of videos saying it can be installed, some says I will need to file the base of cassette body a bit, and some draw a picture saying there will be a need about 7 mins in total for 11 speed gear group....... The frame I purchased was designed for 10 speed... And... I have been searched online... Seems.... Go with 11 speed is just the difference of 16 teeth been spouted into 15 and 18 teeth gears. Go with 11 just sound cool.... But go with 10 speed is not bad as well since the speed of 16 T is not much different from 15T... Well.... But 18T does help a bit in shallow ascending slope....
@everest0411
4 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Thank you. I received my wheel (magnesium alloy) and put on the tire, the 11 speed cassette, fortunately, I can still lock the cassett cover and put into thr 135 mm chamber. Now is just the matter to set up the derailleur.........I purchased 11-52T.....but the RD was said to support 11-50T.......just a bit put of limit...have to adjust the cable.... Do you have videos on this kind of settig? Ove range set up for rear derailleur........
In another video you mentioned the SRAM NX Eagle cassette PG1230 is one of the very few 12 speed cassettes that will work with Shimano HG free hub body. Is this special cassette any thicker than say a 9 speed or 10 speed or 11 speed cassette? Is it able to fit on a frame with 135mm rear spacing? Thanks
I'm from the future 2 years ahead, and I would like to tell you that Deore 12s M6100 uses Microspline (3:10 - 3:16).
Nice video. Will my Shimano FH-M475 hub w/ 9mm QR be compatible with the XD driver? I might want to upgrade to the SRAM wireless Eagle system w/ 12 speed cassette. Thanks
Great explanation about such delicated topic. Is it fair to say that an upgrade to 12 speed system the compatibility only depends on the wheel and freehub? Do I need to have any special attention to the frame?
Hi, love the clear description. Query, of the 3 systems which is more durable? With fine contact areas to take the torque how well do the splines on the newer drives from Sram and Shimano hold up to mtb abuse?
@LoveMTB
Жыл бұрын
The XD Driver
Can I use my old rear hub with a length of 35mm freehub into 11-speed SLX (M7000) cassette?
So I won’t have any issues with upgrading a rockhopper 2019 to nx eagle group set ?
Drop out spacing is the same across all these choices?
Hi. I have a 2017 sram 11 speed with shimano freehub. It’s a 11-42 cassette. Would like a 11-50 t cassette. What do I need to change?
Nice one sir
Is the compatible sunrace csmz91 cassette for XD a good option?????
Can we replace the freehub body of XTR M9100 from Microspline to the previous 11 speed freehub body? I like the silent system of the new XTR hub.
Hello, can you please tell me if I can upgrade the XT M8000 from 11 speed to microspline 12 speed ?
Great video! quick questions, as an example can the shimano deore hubs with the standard shimano freehub be converted to the new micro spline? Also if you wanted to convert say a shimano deore hubs from 9mm qr to 15mm thru axle, is it as simple as just removing the end piece adapter? I'm just getting into Mountain biking (first legit bike for me) and curious to learn more. Thanks.
@dir114
4 жыл бұрын
Depending on your hub manufacturer. E.g. mavic and novatec allow you to change your freehub body instead of whole hub set. You can checkup for other makes on their websites.
What hub body does the 12 speed shimano deore use
Can i use 12 speed eagle nx cassette on SLX rear deraillure 12 speed?
Can I install a sunrace 12 speed cassette on 135mm axle using a Shimano freehub?
Is this compatible to my 10speed hub 135mmx5mm quick release to 12 speed cassette?
THANK YOU excellent and clear explanation!! I have a SRAM 746 rear hub with a 10-42 cassette that is too hi geared for me. I need the Shimano 11-46 cassette. I was wondering if I took the SRAM cassette off with the XD body IF I "could" install the Shimano body onto that hub and install the Shimano 11 speed 11-46 cassette. Looks like I CAN!! Thank YOU!!
@ironman1518.
4 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB THANK YOU! Yes I know the Shimano cassette doedn't fit on the XD body. But SRAM makes a freehub FOR Shimano cassettes, that was the freehub body I was going to use. I need the lower gears I do not have the strength to "push" a 10 nor 11 nor 17 tooth cog. Thank you.
Hi there. I`m currently looking into buying a second hand mtb with 10 speed and was wondering if it was possible to upgrade to a 12 speed and if so how difficult is it. It has a MDK DC22LW rear hub. Thank you
Can I replace my 11 speed HD driver body with the XD? I bought the ethirteen 11 sp 9-46.