Marketing 101, huh?? 🤔 Nice, concise video man. 👌 Thanks for the heads up! 🤜🤛

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I just thought that people should be aware as I think not everyone's going to look at the fine details and some people are going to be pretty disappointed with what they get

Are the arms and driveshafts shock towers the same from flux xl to flux xl v2 ??

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

The arms and towers of the same. The axle shafts are the same length though I think they started using the XL Flux ones on the x in the V2. The center drive shafts I believe are not the same length due to the updated design of the transmission / center differential

Thanks for making this video, you earned a sub. I know I'm a little late but it's good to call out this BS. I get it's marketing and all that bs but most places at least acknowledge somewhere that things are not to scale. As far as price you can preorder at omgrc for 899.99. I doubt the price will change even if Hpi hasn't officially put it down somewhere. At this rate I don't think Hpi is long for this world, there's a reason that it's gone under so many times. I genuinely don't understand what they're doing and how people keep defending them. My main question always is, in what world do old designs like this keep going up in price? Most everything else the older something gets the cheaper it gets. I completely agree with your other responses it shouldn't be more than 650 and that's considering the new inflated prices.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I get that they need to price things so that they make some money but I draw the line at blatantly trying to mislead people

@thejeepinrealtor5742

2 жыл бұрын

The savage series always been really high for some reason. Reason I’ve never bought. I want that new Vorza though 😬😬

That's a marketing trick... anyway, i don't think someone will buy this thing thinking it's a 1/5 without reading the specs... Something has to be wrong with the width, the XL has extended axles, also the axles part number is different from the X to the XL

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've been hearing that and I put a note in the description about it. I was going off of the size of specifications of the truck as well as the image of the hex adapter itself neither of which show that the truck will have hex extenders. What made me make the video is someone I know messaged me excited about how huge the xl was going to be based on that specific picture. If the picture fooled him I'm sure it's going to fool other people as well. Of course it is buyer beware so it's a buyer's fault if they don't know the size of what they're buying but I still think it's worth making the video to let people know.

Thanks for the video, I was looking for more info on the Savage XL V2 and thought it was closer to xmaxx size until I saw this. I do have some other questions and hope you could provide some help.. I grew up with a Savage 25, and heavily modified it. I loved that truck so much. It was a seriously incredible basher and spent half of its time flying through the air. I left the hobby years ago and have had a Revo Brushless v1. I just got it up and running, and quickly cracked an A-Arm and pushrod. I repaired it but it does seem that part supply will be drying up unfortunately sooner then later. I really do like the Revo and how it moves but was figuring I should figure out if I am funneling money into a platform that I should just move off of or if it is worth keeping. Part of my enjoyment with the hobby was the modifying, bashing, and launching. Coming home in pieces, repairing, and going again next week. In my couple weeks of research it kinda feels to me like this aspect has faded out of the industry a bit. The Savage, TMaxx, LST, MGT had tons and tons of aftermarket support for every single piece. Does this still exist and I just havent ran across it yet? Any suggestions for bashing rigs that have great aftermarket support and big user groups?

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Yes aftermarket support is still going strong for the big two brands which are currently Traxxas and Arrma. Particularly with the 6s Arrmas you can build an entire car out of nothing but upgraded parts. Durability has also dramatically increased from what you were used to back in the day so repairs aren't needed quite as often. Depending on your budget a 6S Kraton could be a good choice. If you want to go a little bit cheaper a 4s Kraton or Traxxas Maxx will be a lot of fun.

@justinMacPhee

5 ай бұрын

@@DoRC I did just watch your video on the X ultimate vs X regular...that is intriguing..The XRT looks fun. Looks like a big revo. I am familiar with Arma as well. I would say if either offered a kit form I would be significantly more interested.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@justinMacPhee if you want a basher kit You're only real option is tekno. The MT410 2.0 is pretty good.

When you look at the old models on their website of the XL they use the same type of image. I personally don’t think it’s an issue. Potentially for new customers it could be a problem but the dimensions of the trucks are posted on the website.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was inspired to make the video because I was contacted by two different people who saw that image and thought it was going to be huge. I know a lot of people won't be fooled by it but I think there's some subset of people that will and if I can help those people I think it's a good thing. Also I wouldn't necessarily trust the dimensions on their website because I used those in my video and apparently the width is wrong:)

@dracoprecision

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC by how much is it wrong?

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@dracoprecision not entirely sure. I found out after posting the video that in some places it says that the truck is wider than the X but the picture of the hex and the dimensions listed show it as identical to the x. So it's possible that the width is off by some amount that I'm not sure of.

@mattyguff1

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC offset wheels?

@mattyguff1

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC wider hex extension.

Yeah, the image is a bit weird, I noticed that as well. But since I've had many savage's over the years, I just figured it was the photo that made it look so big in comparison. Kind of liked the the mini savage in front of the xl. Looking at the parts explosions, the X uses the shorter stub axles than the XL, so it would be an inch or so wider than the X. Not sure why they list it as taller though.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Yeah when I made this video the extra width was not listed in the specifications. They changed it after I made the video.

@olds97lss

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC I didn't notice the age of the video when I commented. lol! Should have known this was older and they didn't have the specs sorted out yet.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

@@olds97lss yeah I still stand by my original complaint though. It's misleading enough that several people messaged me about being excited for the new X-Maxx sized HPI coming out. That's what originally made me make the video.

I'll be getting both, i had the old school big block 5.9 XL, i want the nostalgia back i need it!!!

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for watching if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated :-)

The dimensions of the truck are literally on the page you referring to.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

They are but that's not what people are going to be looking at initially. I made the video because I had a couple of people contact me excited about how big it was going to be thinking it was going to be xmax size and we're pretty disappointed when I told them the size it was actually going to be. I understand that if you look carefully you will see what size it is but not everybody does that and the comparison picture that they show is pretty disingenuous in my opinion. That being said this and the video itself is just my opinion.

This isn’t true I have the site up right now and the specs for width listed is not the same like your showing. The X does say 445 but the XL says 470.

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

Yeah they updated the specs after I made this video. When I made it they showed them being the same width.

@spaceace90278

5 ай бұрын

lol sure the did bud. Your one video is the reason 😂

@DoRC

5 ай бұрын

@@spaceace90278 no I'm not saying that it was my video that caused them to fix the specification I'm just saying that it was wrong when I made the video and then they corrected it at some point afterward.

At least I was expecting the XL would have the wider stance with those longer axles on the wheel side, but the 445mm is the same on both models..? That's weird..

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Actually since I made this video the specifications were updated. The XL will be 25 mm wider than the x. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

haha, i totally think like you ! i compaired the wheelbase at first, i also searched for the tires size, but didn't find them...

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah fortunately the tire size is actually printed right on the side of the tire so I was able to compare them. I understand that they're trying to sell vehicles but the whole thing comes off as disingenuous.

@stephanez8036

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC 160x90mm ?? bwahaha ! that's really small ! the direct competitor, hobao mt+2 has 200mm tires ! ( they got the same wheelbase )

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanez8036 yeah it's the same size tires as the standard X which are already kind of small in my opinion. It's going to have that red cat shredder look.

@stephanez8036

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC about the misleading picture HPI made : they first took the picture of each truck, at the same distance form the camera : then they photoshopped both in 1 pictures and reduced the smaller truck : that's why all the perspective is fucked up !! tires seems to be bigger in the rear !!! i would love to see the same picture actually done with the 2 trucks !

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanez8036 exactly. The tires on the XL should be smaller in the picture than they are on the x. Combine that with them raising it up makes for a fairly sketchy forced perspective

I own the previous gen Savage Flux Xl and did find the initial/cover pictures to be highly deceiving. After looking at the specs I was like oh wait this isn’t any bigger than the previous gens. Still waiting for a true 1/5 savage from HPI.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel the same way. It would be cool if they made one. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

@phsycosniper8

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC they made one. They made the savage 5t a long while ago. Then they announced a hpi super 5sc which when looking under the body was just the savage 5t with savage flux internals like the motor and single speed

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

The 5T was kind of fifth scale. It was really just the regular Savage but even longer as far as I'm aware. Same basic drive training everything. I think to make a true fifth scale they would need to have an all new drivetrain that could handle the weight and power of modern fifth scales

Without HPI making the original you would not have all the monster trucks today. HPI was first with a very good and durable truck. The FIRST to introduce standing backflips and the crazy stunts. They are trying to come back and ALL you can do is bad mouth them over a advert picture! These are still two really great, durable trucks. SO glad to see HPI coming back to the US. Seem to be big in Europe. Any RC is breakable. These two take a beating. Had the original Savage and converted it to a X, now in process of updating it.. The Savage is a handful and best for experienced drivers. There Vorza was and still is a really great truck. Yes, have one. One of my favorites. Love to run it. After running the XL the Savage does seem small. Both have there strong points for the user to choose from.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Don't disagree that HPI brought a lot to the hobby. However that was a long time ago and that doesn't really have anything to do with the purpose of this video. In my opinion the picture is misleading and a lot of other people share that opinion. The Savage is a good truck but it is a two-decade-old design and there are some things that are expected from modern expensive RCS that it just doesn't deliver on. Keep in mind I own the Savage V2 and I will be buying the new vorza truggy. I was kind of disappointed by The Savage V2 as I expected to be based on what it was offering for the price but I have high hopes for the vorza. If they can keep the price reasonable and the durability where it was with the buggy version then they could definitely have something good on their hands. I definitely appreciate your passion for the brand. I also really hope they succeed but that's not going to stop me from telling it like I see it :-) Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!

@leonardkerns6602

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC Have your forgot HPI products were very expensive back in the day. But to me, they delivered. Only units still have and will not sell either. Look at today's market. Over $1k for the top stuff. And the "T" company is still making there living selling replacement parts. Have my eye on the Vorza Truggy as well. When I want to know size I look at spec's, not pictures. Pictures are so deceiving by all advertising companies.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes HPI products were expensive back in the day but they were also state-of-the-art back in the day. I'm not saying that the products that they make aren't good or worth the money I'm just saying that there are some disappointing aspects to them compared to what other companies are offering for the same or less money. And I also look at the specs but I know there are a lot of people that at least initially will look at the pictures and I don't think the pictures should be deceiving.

@leonardkerns6602

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC And they are still the only ones with the twin vertical plates, aren't they? Still state of art. Agree, they need to fine tune a few things and think that will come. They have to if they want to keep up with the market.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonardkerns6602 no there are a few other manufacturers that do TVP style chassis. TVPs are nice and they have some advantages but they also have disadvantages. They make working on certain parts more difficult than a flat plate chassis. I definitely agree they have some things I need to work on. I don't think that plastic shocks, front dog bones, weak differential internals and no center differential feels like state of the art. Don't get me wrong they still produce a nice product it just has fallen behind what expectation is for vehicles at this price I think. That being said I definitely appreciate your passion for the brand and I also really hope that they do well in the long run :-)

I think that's borderline false advertising. I have an older savage nitro converted to 6s. It's a monster! I just don't run it much because parts are hard to find. At least I struggle. I don't think I would get a new HPI vehicle.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that's what encourage me to make the video. I don't think that kind of thing belongs in our hobby. I bought the Savage X v2 but if I had to do again I probably wouldn't. Thanks for commenting and a sub is appreciated :-)

i think the pic is for the future 8s version 😁

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Ah that must be it:)

Only thing we are missing is some "chinese top speed spec" like 80+ mph 😂😅

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah to be fair the specifications are listed on the same page but I still think the picture is pretty disingenuous.

@The_RC_Dude

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I remember you from RCT!

But if hpi really makes a xmaxx sized savage flux that'll be epic

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. That would be really cool. Though based on their pricing structure would probably be $1,500. Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated:)

No man. My vacuum has "turbo" written on it. Surely I wont make a video on it. Why so upset about a picture? Its like a picture of king kong toy on the top of a mountain. Surely you wont think you will get a toy bigger than a mountain...

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

My decision to make this video was initially based on the fact that multiple people had contacted me super excited about the new Giant HPI coming out. The reason that they thought this was that picture. They were pretty disappointed when I told him the actual size of the truck. This isnt really similar to your example. A closer analogy would be if you saw a King Kong toy with an XL King Kong portrayed as dramatically larger behind it. And bought the XL King Kong toy only to find out that it's only a little bit larger than the toy that it was compared to. I understand that not everybody would be fooled by this picture but based on the vast majority of comments I've gotten most people feel the same way about it. It is the only picture that compares this vehicle to another vehicle and it is intentionally designed to make it look larger than it is. I think when companies do something like this in our hobby it's important to call them out on it and to bring it to other people's attention. that being said you are completely entitled to your own opinion and I respect that and respect that it may not be the same as my own :-) thanks for watching anyway!

@JeremyBreeden89

2 ай бұрын

​@@DoRC so in the comment right before this one you had said a single person messaged you excited about how big the new Savage XL is going to be, now you're saying a bunch of people have messaged you about it and that's why you decided to make the video. Come on man be honest with people, I mean that's what you want HPI to do right? The truck is listed as a 1/8 scale truck, so I'm not sure why anyone would think it's close to the size of a 1/6 scale such as the XMAXX. Most of the time these RC's are sent out to reviewers a month or more before they are released, surely people interested in spending this kind of cash on a RC will likely do a little research on it before buying and they would stumble across reviews of the truck where they could easily see the size in a video. HPI has been in thr RC game a long time and stand behind what they sell, anyone who cares about the RC hobby should be thankful HPI is back and part of the Hobby we love. There are a lot more RC companies that are doing much worse than a picture thay may or may. It make others think they are getting something bigger than they are. One company in particular is destroying this hobby and only cares about the money 💰💰💰💰 they can make from it and that's where those of us who love the hobby should be directing our concerns.

@DoRC

2 ай бұрын

Sorry but this was over 2 years ago so I don't exactly remember the timeline but I do know that not only were multiple people confused by the advertisement before I made the video but there have been plenty of people who have commented on the video itself stating that they felt the same way about it. It is possible that a single person contacted me and I saw multiple people commenting about it in groups as I belong to a lot of them but again I don't really remember because it was a long time ago. Safe to say though plenty of people felt the same way about it. As far as whether or not people should be fooled by an advertisement like this is kind of beside the point. I feel like that's tantamount to victim blaming. Saying that someone shouldn't be fooled when someone's trying to fool them doesn't really feel right to me. All that being said this was all just my own opinion on it and my opinions worth just about as much as anybody else's :-) thank you for your comment and thanks for watching!

Shorter chassis = easier to do flips etc. Longer chassis more of a ripper basher than a big air basher. It make sense to me, but I never take pictures as the final word anyway because it's just advertising/schmarketing. Arrma does the same exact thing because of the above reason. Some people want an air machine doing flip flops some people want a stable platform to go really fast and get some moderate air but big air doing 4 flips really isn't their thing. Not really trying to pull a fast one here it's just difference horses for different courses.

@DoRC

9 ай бұрын

Yeah it's not the design that bothered me. It's the way that they showed the two vehicles together. I made this video because I had multiple people contact me excited about the new 1/5 scale HPI that was coming out. And of course you shouldn't use a picture to make a purchase determination but people do. I just thought it was kind of scummy.

@jackthecat6225

9 ай бұрын

@@DoRC I think that is fair because it's just plain misleading. Everyone does it, but c'mon it's like you are looking at a 1/12 scale vs a 1/5 scale in the pic. Just a bit much. It would have been better (I think) if they would have shown the profiles of the two trucks in their real size.

@DoRC

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree. Ultimately it is up to the buyer too do their research And like I said I wouldn't even have made the video if a bunch of people hadn't contacted me thinking that this was going to be a new larger platform or something. Anyway thanks for watching and commenting!

One of the best platforms ever made

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

20 years ago it was great but it feels pretty dated these days. It's still a tough platform I just wish they had updated a few more things such as the shocks and the differentials. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

Nothing wrong with the picture. The XL is higher placed on the picture. It is so clear.

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

It's good that you saw it that way however many people did not. It was people's perception of that picture that prompted me to make the video in the first place. Also they made the XL proportionally the same size as the x even though something that's further away should look smaller. Obviously it's not going to fool everyone especially now in hindsight but at the time it was confusing people.

@youriinc

6 ай бұрын

@@DoRC If you buy any thing around that kind of prizes without doing any research you're just an idiot. It will be great btw, if you make a video on an offroad track with these kind sizes monstertrucks xmaxx hpi etc.

Thank’s... I was thinking he was like a X-Maxx !

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

You're not the only person to experience that. Thanks for watching and if you enjoyed a sub is appreciated :-)

@romainfrans2662

Жыл бұрын

@@DoRC done yet ✌

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

@@romainfrans2662 thanks!

There's a meme just waiting to be made "Savage Crack Smoking"

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated if you aren't already subscribed :-)

To be fair it looks like they are leaving it open to an actual XL or X maxx class vehicle though will agree marketing is flawed with out being honest if that but my view as of today with saying X v2 vs XL v2

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

It would be really cool if they did. I'm hoping that if they do something like that it won't just be a wider longer version of the same chassis. To support that kind of size the internals really need to be beefed up in my opinion.

@jamesbond-pr5jl

Жыл бұрын

@@DoRC Very true unfortunately I think the RC market has become very political. I was involved in the first rc x games then we were told no because copy right or what have you im not sophisticated just traveled you could say... when I was away Traxxas big dicked for what ever reason you would like to chose over the nero. Nothing against what you say truly more say false advert than it being a 1/5th like i would like to give them cred for cause the savage was what I used in that X games at least "had in the pits" hahaha The V2 is also at least a step in some new direction Thanks for the interaction!

XMAXX rules. Winning

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

X max is an awesome truck! Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

Looks like they put the 1/12th savage next to the 1/8th in that pic lol

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty much. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!

long time HPI fan boy but since the demise of the firestorm/blitz i bought a jumpshot ST and its a toy. they have to lift their game to stay alive- bring back the passion not just a product. the savage isn't even on the radar anymore. won't by traxxas on RC bully principals so will just keep grinding the OLD firestorm/Blitz which i have 2 spare parts trucks until HOPEFULLY they find there way back into the game

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I have always been a fan of them as well. I really hope that they are able to become really successful again. Take a look at my latest video there's a giveaway going on :-)

Finally a centre diff but what's it going to cost 🤔! Naughty boys!

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

If I had to guess it's going to be $900. Hopefully it won't be more thanif I had to guess it's going to be $900. Hopefully it won't be more than that

@Luke-en2tk

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC yeah their pricing is gaga

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Luke-en2tk I agree. I bought the Savage X because I was curious about it but there are definitely better vehicles for the money

it has 17mm axle extenders. so it’s 17mm wider. 😁

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they updated their specifications after I made this video to reflect that it is a little bit wider. That being said I don't really think that makes much difference in the point of the video. Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated!

@rushgush

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC yeah, hpi just needs to create an xmaxx competitor and be done with it lol

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@rushgush that would be cool to see though honestly I don't think HPI has the money to create any sort of new platform right now

That's why you take the information from the dimensions written an not from pictures

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that would be best practice but that's not what everybody's going to do. People like to look at shiny pictures and the shiny pictures are deceiving

What the flux

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yeah. Kinda shady. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated:)

Long wheel base(XL) vs short wheel base (X), alot of RC companies do this, arrma is a prime example.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely and long wheelbase versus short wheelbase really isn't the issue it's the fact that the picture uses forced perspective to make the xl look larger than it is.

Both servo on my new Savage XL nitro died before I even finish break-in the engine. Not worth for the price of $700. This should be under $400 price rage. Cheap quality, low micky metal gears. Nothing major changes just the price.

@DoRC

4 ай бұрын

For the most part unfortunately that's true. They updated the body did a little bit of work on the chassis and then re-released it. This is essentially the same truck that came out over two decades ago.

Actually on the picture itself, if you take a ruler, the wheels are exactly the same. The two trucks are just one above the other with the same scale (no perspective) to show the new length.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Right but that's the problem. Because one is behind the other our brains expected to be smaller. By making them the exact same size it actually looks like the tires on the one in the back are larger. It's a perspective trick to fool our brains. Whether it's intentional or not is unknown but it is effective. Coupling that with putting it up significantly higher than the other truck and it makes it look like it's a much larger truck than it is. If they want to do an accurate comparison between the two a shot from above would be the way to do it. I was actually inspired to make this video because I had multiple people contact me excited about the new 1/5 scale Savage coming out. I've also had several people in the comments say they had the same impression.

@AB-yv5ii

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC Yeah I was impressed the first time I saw the picture. Maybe they should ve turn the picture black and white with some scale on the background (like 3D software)

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@AB-yv5ii I just think that whoever made the picture probably should have just not made it after realizing that they couldn't accomplish what they were trying to without making the Excel look way bigger than it actually is. There's actually another picture that's even worse where they put smoke around the bottoms of the tires which obscures the fact that the truck in the back is sitting up higher in the air. Like I said maybe on purpose maybe not but I have a hard time believing that no one at HPI looked at that picture and thought that it might be misleading before it was published. Anyway thanks for commenting and definitely good eye on the tire size thing! A sub is appreciated :-)

@AB-yv5ii

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC Done !

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@AB-yv5ii thanks!

Last time I saw this was in an ancient traxxas Tmaxx 3.3 ad

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah apparently hpi did something similar with the original XL pic. To be fair they do list the specifications on the page but I feel like not everybody's going to go straight to a bunch of fine print. Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated :-)

The pick clearly shows the savage x tires lower than savage xl. I didn’t think that it was showing it much smaller. Just longer wheel base really. In the world of RC misleading marketing it doesn’t even rank imo.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

If you actually take measurements you can tell that they specifically sized the XL to appear larger than it is. If you put the xl behind the x and took a picture of it you would barely be able to see the xl. They adjusted the sizes to make the xl appear larger than it is. Measuring the tires of the two they are the exact same size in the picture. Because the XL is behind the x it's tires should appear significantly smaller based on perspective. Making them the exact same size the picture tricks the brain into thinking that the tires on the XL are larger. There are a lot of people that felt the same way about this so I'm definitely not alone in my opinion. Of course this stuff is always buyer beware I just think that the picture is disingenuous. This is especially true given the fact that the "massive" XL is basically the size of a 1/8 scale Kraton...

@thejeepinrealtor5742

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC eh. I know people like to complain about stuff like that. But that picture is super obvious that the x up front is lowered to see the xl behind it. Greatly prefer this to companies that market their products as faster than they are, require wrenching to reach advertised speeds, advertise things as EXTREME bashers when everyone knows half the parts need immediate replacement. Just don’t see this one making the list for me. It’s working well for you though with comments and such so I don’t blame ya for posting it haha. ( not being sarcastic ) I just don’t find this deceptive. Now the price? That offends. Hahaha.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejeepinrealtor5742 yeah the price isn't great. I do want to stress though that I posted the video because it represented my actual feelings about the picture. It was not done for the views (more than any of my videos are done for the views that is) and as a matter of fact it's one of the most controversial videos I've ever had. I don't really do these things for controversy and the backlash I've had in this video has actually made me think twice about some other videos since then. Again though I really do respect your opinion and totally understand where you're coming from on it. My opinion on it is definitely a polarizing one.

Another great video. I have the Savage X V2 and so far I’m not very impressed for the money I spent (even though I got one new for $725 shipped). Can’t imagine what this is going to go for. That said, given the similar dimensions, I wonder if the XL’s center diff can be swapped into the X? 🤔 Edit: Nevermind. Just saw they sell it on their site separately for the X V2.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Assuming they actually make that part available and they didn't put all of them in the XL yes I do believe that the center differential will be able to go into the v2. I'll be looking out for one because it should have come with one from factory. I also have a V2 and I'm not super impressed for the money. It's fine but it should be $150 cheaper. I'll be shocked if the XL is less than $900

@kickwagon

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC According to HPI’s site, it says the center diff will fit into the regular V2 but now I see what you’re saying here. Despite having a part number, there’s nowhere to actually purchase it. Also, your video is what helped me choose wether to get one or not. Originally I wasn’t going to. You made a lot of points I agreed with, in most part the subpar components for a $765 RC when compared to RC’s $650 and less. Hell, the Redcat Kaiju at $450 comes with aluminum shocks and a center diff. Anyway, when I found a site for a store in Texas who gave me $90 off, I decided to take my chances. I feel it’s good, just not $765 good.

hpi needs a true 8s savage.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. I'd love to see a Savage that actually is close to x-maxx size! Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated :-)

I think someone should compare the new savagexl flux with the cen reeper

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

That would be cool but they're not even going to be remotely in the same price range. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

@restinpiecesrc5528

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC already subbed lol, if its the same size as the last xl flux its pretty small, I have the reeper and it has a 475 mm wheelbase, not as wide as id like it to be but im working on ways to change that

@restinpiecesrc5528

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC i do have a photo of it compared to the kraton 6s, i think youre in the fb group with me

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@restinpiecesrc5528 probably. I'll take a look

you've got to be kidding. you'd think the less popular hobby rc has gotten the more honest they'd try and be

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah its not the best.

@Trendyrapslut

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC I see what the other guy was saying but its not noticeable

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trendyrapslut yeah if you really know what youre looking for you can tell something is off but a lot of ppl wont notice.

Ahhh. Get a box of tissues my man.. wipe away your tears..

@DoRC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback :-)

I recently picked up the XL Flux V2 and I'd choose it any day over the shortie. I've owned several Savages over the past 15yrs and I don't really understand all the noise over the marketing; HPI has marketed the XL's this way (nitro and flux) for over 15yrs and reading the specs will go a long way. I recall ZERO complaints when Traxxas first marketed the original 6S Xmaxx where you thought you were buying a 1:2 scale truck unless you read the specs.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're happy with it :-) that being said I was prompted to make the video by multiple people being misled by this picture. Yes they have been marketing savages this way for a while but that doesn't make it right. Also another company doing something wrong doesn't make it right. You are correct that is important to read the specs but a lot of people especially new people just don't know what they're looking at. If HPI wants to succeed they need to be marketing towards new purchasers not just old HPI fans and from a new inexperienced purchasers perspective this image is fairly misleading. And I was pretty fair too because they have a image thats even worse were they put smoke under the tires to obscure the fact that it's raised up. Again these kinds of things are absolutely buyer beware but that still doesn't make it right.

@thejeepinrealtor5742

2 жыл бұрын

The pic above shows the shorter one sitting lower. Way lower. Don’t know how that’s deceiving. I usually love your videos but this is silly.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejeepinrealtor5742 the height is just one way that it is deceiving. Primary way is the size of the two. The one in the background is specifically sized so that it looks larger than it is. If you measure the tires of the one in the front and the one in the background they are the exact same size. Because the xl is in the background it's tires should appear to be smaller since they are the same size in reality. This is known as forced perspective and makes something appear larger than it actually is. Also the way perspective works something in the background will appear to be higher up than something in the foreground. I made the video in response to multiple people being confused by this picture. Based on the comments I got a lot of other people agree that it is a misleading picture. This one isn't even the worst. They have another one very similar but they put fake smoke underneath the tires of the XLS that you can't even tell that it's sitting above the other one. Yes if you pay close attention and you look carefully as well as look at the specifications you can tell that the XL is not as big as it appears in the picture but that doesnt mean the picture itself isn't misleading.

$1000 sticker? Hpi has lost their minds. I paid 7 for the x nitro which is crazy.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Has the pricing been announced? I was expecting $900. If it's $1,000 that's just insane. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!

@paingain9516

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC metro hobbies has them for pre order for $1000. Hpi needs to keep them around 6 to 8 if they want people to buy anyway. Another couple hundred and you could get into some good 1/5 scales.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Okay so Metro hobbies is in Australia and they're asking 1099 for it. Based on converting Savage X the conversion rate between that and US dollars is 0.79. So based on that the xl will be 800 USD. I don't think it will only be $50 more than the regular X so I'm going to guess 850 USD

This is genuinely sad I used to be an hpi fan from hell I would never buy one of these for what they are selling them for I find my self finding older used models on eBay hell I even went ahead and got a t Maxx and that's just sad compared to the earlyer hpi savages of past

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's quite the advertising gimmick. Basically the regular Savage x is large 1/10 scale and the Savage XL is 1/8 scale. They have been reducing their prices to some degree though recently. Man I want to get another T-Max. That was my first RC and I've been on the hunt for another one just haven't found the right one yet. Thanks for watching and commenting and if you enjoy my videos a sub to my channel is appreciated :-)

@williamkeeling4961

Жыл бұрын

Yea the t Maxx was my first nitro I had some extra cash one day got a brand new t Maxx classic I still miss my savage x 4.6 though kinda wanna sell it and get another used savage x only thing that holds me back is the parts availability

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

@@williamkeeling4961 I've heard that parts availability will be getting better soon. No guarantees but that's just what I've heard.

@williamkeeling4961

Жыл бұрын

Yea I never really had any issues getting parts for my last savage used parts are everywhere it's just nice to go down to the local hobby shop and get goodies for my t Maxx when ever and not have to wait for shipping all the time only problem is my local shop refuses to stock nitro fuel so I have to drive 30 miles over to the next town to get it

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

My local hobby shop annoyingly doesn't carry Traxxas parts. I'd be more likely to find something for the Savage than for the T-Maxx

They couldn't even widen it which they should've imo

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

It actually is wider than the Savage x. When I made the video they had the specifications and pictures wrong and didn't show the hex extenders that are on it.

@neurofunk2731

2 жыл бұрын

Oh OK my dude 👌

@neurofunk2731

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC still over priced I think

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@neurofunk2731 I completely agree. Even being larger than the standard one it's still basically 1/8 scale.

yep a new company trying to bring back the original glory , but lying about it being new and improved also. not cool being a original hpi racer , fan etc there not going to make it doing crap like they are.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair there are a few small improvements that they made. The original was a pretty good car. They can keep the price at a reasonable level and I think it'll be a good car. Hopefully if they can make some money with these re releases then they can release some genuinely new stuff in the future. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!

Sneaky tactics lol thx for the heads up 🙏👍💪

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I agree I think it's a bit underhanded. To be fair the specifications are listed on the website but not everybody jumps straight to the fine print. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

@paulosrcs185

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC already subbed bro 👍

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulosrcs185 thanks! I'll stop asking eventually :-)

@paulosrcs185

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC no worries bro 👍

This is nothing compared to what traxxas pulls off. It's only a picture.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

What has Traxxas done like this?

@SlickTrickRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC they all make claims that aren't true. That's what I meant. The sledge was supposed to be an awesome basher. But they failed to include hardened diffs. And there electronics are the worst in the market. Although I will say hpi was misleading on the size comparison. All companies do these things

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlickTrickRC understood though I would say that the Sledge is a pretty tough and awesome basher. Definitely not the Kraton killer they made it out to be but not a bad car at all. I think the biggest thing Traxxas is famous for is overstating their top speeds:)

@SlickTrickRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC I agree. I'll add traxxas is sue happy. They are suing Cinemax for the name max. They sue everyone. They over price there rc,s also. I bought an old used savage off ebay. It needed a lot of cleaning, front diff case, the engine I replaced with a bigred dynamite. 28 . Wheels and a body. Steering servo... I just got 5 tanks through it to break it in..I'm loving my savage. It's my first savage ever. I'm 47. Lol. I. Like a big kid again. Lol I own a classic 2.5 t maxx. My only traxxas product. I own 2 corally cars. Kronos xtr and the radix. I love all my rc,s. . I own more. But saying I don't stick to one brand. What an awesome hobby. God bless

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlickTrickRC the best hobby!

...and it's still using Deans type connectors on a 6S-capable RC in 2022. facepalm.jpg

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah my guess after changing them is that they went with Dean's because there's hardly any room under the hinged battery covers for anything larger. The xt90s I put in there just barely fit and are kind of annoying. It also could have been a cost saving measure. Thanks for your comment and a sub to my channel is appreciated!

Body was designed by the creator of minecraft.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I think the body looks better in person. I have the v2 x and I like it. That being said it's a pretty personal thing so I can see why some people wouldn't like it. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

This must be Made in China as well just like their rest of the lineup. Old HPIs made in Japan and Taiwan were of 10 times better quality than their recent Chinese crap. I've since moved on to Kyosho and Mugen. Waaaay better in quality. If only they made a 1/7 or 1/5 scale, it would be a dream come true.

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much everything's made in China these days. HPI hasn't been made in Japan for a very long time. I would say that it's kind of hard to compare a $270 car to something like a kyosho or Mugen. This isn't the highest quality car in the world but it's very affordable and for the price you get a lot and it is very decent quality. I think it's important for there to be vehicles available in different price ranges in this hobby because not everybody can afford the most expensive cars. If there were only expensive cars in the hobby there would be a lot of people that wouldn't be able to enjoy the hobby. Thanks for commenting and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated :-)

@chiragghuman

Жыл бұрын

@@DoRC Although I do partially agree with you but this is not exactly a $270 RC. It's costing upwards of $700 and that's Kyosho pricing, which is made in Japan and is still profitable for Kyosho. Even HPI can earn profits by manufacturing it in Japan and offering better quality for the same price. Or they can shift their OEM to the same old Taiwanese factory that made the other kits as they were also 'acceptable' but for a lower price, obviously. But this one and their other kits (Made in China) are pathetic in quality. I mean just check out the plastic parts or the anodizing or the play in the moving parts. The difference is quite huge. Taiwanese made Flux XLs were WAY better than this Chinese made Flux XL V2. If you happen to own both (Like I do), you can spot the quality differences easily. I mean it's so evident how much they've compromised on quality with their newer kits and just capitalizing on the name and loyal old fan following. I've been an HPI fanboy myself because of their carbon reinforced plastics and bulletproof RCs. Not anymore. They disappointed big time under the Vestergaard group!

@DoRC

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I don't have the ability to compare the old to the new. I haven't really heard other people mention a huge reduction quality but if you have both in hand it's probably easier to see the differences. Thanks for the info!

There is plenty of videos on most any rc truck people can view before buying. I personally would never base my decision off a picture alone, I understand common sense seems to be a thing of the past but anyone can review anything that's what google is for. Now if they was calling it a 5th scale and the best thing smoking then yeah that's deceiving but a picture!! C'MON KZread.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your point of view but that picture is the only one on hpis site that shows the scale of the vehicle and its intentionally misleading. Its alsoxthe only resource for the new truck. Its not immediately apparent that its the same size as its predecessors and people who dont know the brand hiatory may not even know there were predecessors. Of course its up to the buyer to do their research but hpi shouldnt make their only picture comparing scale intentionally misleading.

@jeremybreeden4228

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC I didn't make this comment with the intent of defending hpi or to go against your opinion of what you see as a misleading photo. I appreciate anyone's opinion and can understand where the picture may seem misleading especially to those who don't know anything about the hobby. I'm just simply saying we are living in 2022 and pretty much anything someone wants to know about a product is a click away. Also it is a marketing strategy and anyone in the business if making money will try to make their product seem better than it is, whether it be a pizza restaurant comparing there pizza next to a competitor's pizza or even another RC company just look at pictures traxxas made of the xmaxx compares to some of there smaller RCs. I for one am just excited to see hpi possibly make a good comeback and anyone who's been in the rc hobby for several years should be to becasue we all know at one time they was the go to RC for so many people. Keep on rcing my friend and again meant no disrespect towards you or anyone else.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

It may not be immediately apparent from this video but I'm actually very excited to see HPI back as well. I purchased the Savage V2 the day it came out and I have a Maverick muscle car on pre-order. I do think that their Savage line is currently a little overpriced for what you get. I made the video and response to multiple people messaging me when the pictures first came out excited about the new x-max size savage. Yes with further research it's pretty straightforward to determine it's actual size but the picture just kind of bothered me. Anyway thanks for watching and commenting I really do hope HPI does well!

50 bucks

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's a bit of a low bid but yeah they are definitely overpriced :-) thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!

Wow! That’s pretty sketch… thanks for being on top of it

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

What a joke I’m going to buy and stay with traxxas

@DoRC

4 ай бұрын

These trucks are decent but they haven't really been significantly updated in durability in a long time. The design really is outdated.

Shut up still buying it

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

There's nothing wrong with that. The video isn't about whether or not you should buy one it's about misleading marketing tactics.

Ha!good looking out brother 😎a company definitely shouldn’t lie to get people to buy a product.nice catch call them out!👊🏻

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I mean it's not an outright lie if you actually look closely it is just raised up higher but I think it's deceptive enough to be worth mentioning

Honest? I think videos like this are worse for the hobby than that picture. It’s a fun new release. All specs are listed. If you don’t research and just go off of an advertisement picture when buying then you really are dumb. Videos actually discussing the vehicle or driving it are great for the hobby. HPI makes some amazing RC. You just painted a picture that doesn’t reflect that, but insinuates that they look down on their consumers and are dishonest. Just my 2 cents. Far more people like complaining than being rational, so I’m sure you’ll have plenty than agree with you.

@thejeepinrealtor5742

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy your other vids though haha. 😜🤘🏼

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Here's the thing. I painted a picture that reflected my feelings of the advertisement. I stand by those feelings. The advertisement is misleading. If it isnt intentionally misleading it's an awfully big coincidence that it was designed in a way that it would be basically as misleading as possible. To me the disingenuous thing would be to not make a video about these sorts of observations and only do things that are "good" for hpi and the hobby. Sometimes things occur that aren't good and that don't make a company look good. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be reported on. That doesn't mean that I don't wish HPI the best. I actually really wish them well. That being said my observations of what they've been doing so far don't really bode super well for them. Basically every "new" vehicle they've released has been overpriced and underspeced. That being said I'd absolutely do understand where you're coming from and people should do all of their own research. I just think it's also the responsibility of the companies to represent their products accurately. That picture is far from an accurate representation of the product.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoy :-)

@thejeepinrealtor5742

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC I’ve just come to see it as the norm nowadays. Like I was PISSED when I didn’t get through a 4s battery pack. On two attempts. On my Kraton 6s EXB without it breaking. No jumps lol. And then I find out they know those parts break lol. On their special extreme basher version. Now, I love it now that it’s sorted out with a bunch of aftermarket parts lol. But that’s what gets my goat on misleading advertisement. Folks say “we’ll all RC break you can’t take that literally” so I just see this as kinda more of the same. Except I can find hard data on the size specs. I get why you’re doing what ya do though! One of the things I learned along the way is no matter how certain I am about being right, there’s still a fair chance of being wrong. Gotta always remember I might be wrong - keeps that mind from closing!

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

I’ve invested a lot of money in maverick and HPI products since Xmas this year. To anyone reading this my advice would be to stay away from HPI racing completely.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry you've had bad experiences. Some of their stuff is decent but I have heard that some of the Maverick stuff is pretty fragile. Anyway thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!

@Conceivedintheeyeofasecret

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC thanks - still going through it all however somebody from HPI has recently got in touch with me.

@Conceivedintheeyeofasecret

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have a whole bag of maverick parts never to be used. Bought 2 at Xmas - 1 for me 1 for my son. Like others I got tired of repairing it - taught me what to look out for.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Thats good!

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Conceivedintheeyeofasecret yeah apparently Maverick isn't actually made by HPI it's just HPI branded. I've heard they're on road cars are pretty good but those are a lot lower stressed than off-road cars are. If you're looking for a good small fairly inexpensive bash for the team associated mt10 has a very good reputation.

hpi is kinda a dead brand today. and even HotBodies isn't very attractive anymore.

@DoRC

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm hoping they're able to come out with some really sweet new stuff soon and revive themselves a bit more.

To be honest, hpi has become a joke, i hope they can get their shit together, they have a place in the hobby for sure. Especially with all the subpar brands out there today.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

They are definitely behind in a few areas on their vehicles. This is what happens when you change almost nothing on a platform for 20 years. That being said they still do make a decent product if they can do some much-needed updates and get the prices a little more reasonable I think they'll be okay. Thanks for watching if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated!

I can definitely see where you're coming from with this. Deceptive marketing.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

For sure!

Well said, its just wrong. It shows their goal was to be deceptive .

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I think so. Some people disagree but to me it looks like it was specifically engineered to make the xl look bigger than it's going to be.

You're right buddy False advertising not cool from(( HPI )) it's to bad cause hpi savage xl was my favorite truck ,and the price range is crazy can almost buy truggy race kit !!!!!!!!!

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

They haven't announced pricing yet but I would be shocked if it was less than $900. That's going to be a hard ask i think. Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated :-)

Such deceiving marketing only make people hate it even more if they find out, even if they include the dimension size after all. I was really hoping HPI really did make a whole new giant 1/5 scale monster, then I will really buy it. I never tried 1/8 scale HPI monster because its just trash and weak compared to Hobao, even though HPI is much more expensive.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that their trucks are necessarily weak. They do have some weak spots that have been around for literally decades that have yet to be addressed even in the latest version. I find that kind of annoying for the price but overall they do make a decent product. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated if you aren't already :-)

Its a Savage XL, the size hasn’t changed from the last 3 versions. Everyone who knows what a Savage XL is knows how much bigger it is. That comparison shot is the same as the last 3 web pages showing its bigger than the standard X version, its also raised on the old shots so you can see the car behind. If you want to nitpick go ahead, but it’s not even remotely controversial.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that that's coming from the viewpoint of someone that's very familiar with these. Someone who isn't familiar with these isn't going to know the long history of the vehicles and will really only be going off of what they see in the pictures. For those people this picture is pretty deceiving. The XL looks like an xmaxx sitting behind the x. That being said people are free to draw their own conclusions. My goal was to point it out so that people could be aware of it and not get the wrong impression about the xl.

@AsraiForns

2 жыл бұрын

How is a person not familiar with a Savage XL but that same person then be able to compare it and be familiar with an Xmaxx in size? That person has to have RC knowledge like yourself or you wouldn't be comparing it to the Xmaxx in the first place. It's not being compared to an Xmaxx. It's being shown against an X. I don't think the dimensions are right because the XL has axle extenders so will 100% be wider than the X. So it's wider and longer than an X.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I was saying looks like it is xMax size in the picture. Somebody doesn't know what they're looking at will just think it's huge compared to the Savage x. I have heard that it has extenders but based on both the specifications and pictures on hpi's own website it doesn't so that's what I based my video off of. It's possible that's a typo and that the image is incorrect but I just went off of what was there.

@huckaberryfpv4986

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC dont give this guy your time bro,definition of a troll...dont feed em🤜🤛

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@huckaberryfpv4986 maybe. But I appreciate everybody's opinion and I enjoy interacting with and discussing things with people so it's no big deal :-)

They continue to shoot themselves in the foot. I was pumped thinking it was an Xmaxx size, but this BS will make sure they never get a dollar of my money

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people are going to get the impression that it's a lot larger than it actually is. I will say I have heard that it is going to be wider due to axle extenders but I made my video based on the information available on their website so I can't verify either way. Regardless it's certainly not going to be as it appears in the picture. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated :-)

@whistlinlipo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC I’ve been subbed brother 🤙🏽

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@whistlinlipo thanks!!

Hpi has gone Downhill , their Maverick knock offs are even worse . And yes anyone would have thought that V2 is much bigger. Very deceiving pic

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I hear that the quantum r is pretty good but don't have any experience with any of the Maverick vehicles. Most people tend to agree that the picture is indeed deceiving.

@arrmamafia

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC I bought their top of the line Maverick quantum flux plus. Has major weak points. It's a wreck of a car. Just sits on the shelf now broken. Got tired of fixing it. It did make me a great rc mechanic though 😂

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@arrmamafia that's a bummer. I would have actually bought the quantum r when I found out about it but I had already bought the hoonitruck and didn't really want another honored vehicle. HPI is able to improve things because I like them as a brand and I think that any company that isn't Traxxas or Horizon is good for the hobby

@arrmamafia

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC there's a reason horizon and Traxxas rule the hobby world. Redcat racing has some good trucks too. Just not a fan of anything Maverick or affialtes . They are the brands that give the hobby a bad name .

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@arrmamafiai can understand that viewpoint

hpi needs to drop prices to compete with the other brands especially when it the same rigs from 2008 with little to no updates and a new body.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they made some good updates to this version but they also left some pretty important stuff on modified. I know prices everywhere are going up but I feel like their prices too high. I think if they were at least in line with something like the 6s arrmas they would do a lot better. Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated!

This is how HPI sell there stuff, big fat joke 🤣 people are getting scam by that company. They are some cheap ass cars that sells for high dollar in my mind.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say it's necessarily A scam. I have their v2 x and it's not a bad truck but it does have some durability issues that have been around for literally decades now that they did not fix which I find annoying. And yeah their prices are pretty high. Thanks for watching and if you aren't already subscribed a sub is appreciated :-)